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Maximus69:
God keeps their loving memories as if he is still seeing them, we humans do keep pictures and videos of our dead loved ones. So it's their fine qualities that makes them alive to God but their bodies are dead. During resurrection the Almighty God will gather the dust and restore their memories back to continue living as the same person that died, but as for unbelievers all their memories are forgotten for good!

If you're looking for a Hypocrite, just stare on JWs beside you.

Look at the @underlined and compare it with same verse you cherry picked Eccl 9:5

["For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten. NWT"

1. The verse says the dead has no any more REWARD,..... and the reason being that
2. ALL THEIR MEMORIES are forgotten.

Yet you believe the same verse that says "the dead KNOWS NOTHING" means NOTHING LIVE after death, but neglecting the same part that says "NO MORE REWARD FOR THEM AND EVEN THEIR MEMORIES WILL BE FORGOTTEN"

Kobojunkie:
There was only one law of tithing, it's definition spread across several books.
Oh, I do have a clear understanding of the tithing law. Let's skip the sideswipes and focus on the breadth of the matter here, shall we

The @underlined shows you don't know anything about what you're putting yourself into.

So no need to waste time on you!

Originalsly:
This is about palliatives and Christians..... aren't Christians supposed to be following the Bible? If yes...... then according to the Bible... tithes are basically for palliatives .... to supplement the poor and the spreading if the gospel. The circumstances under which people became poor do not matter.... poor be ause of natural disaster or government orders ...dosen't matter.
Paying taxes has nothing to do with Christians..... give to Caesar what belongs to him.... is all the Bible instructed.... no instructions on what Caesar/FG should do with the taxes. So why must Christians be knocking at the door of the FG instead of the church? This is the question I need answers to.

How many types of Tithe were instituted by God and which particular one do Christian collect today?

Many of you will just open mouth and talk about Tithe without clear understanding of it.

Peacefullove:
You said I lied but can't produce where that man ever claimed Jesus is his God. Are u okay ? I doubt


Provide where Jesus is called OUR GOD ??

From Russell was mislead by TRANSLATION to Those men (Russell and his team) didn't know worshipping Jesus was wrong to IT WAS JUST A RESPECT now you have shifted the blame on those after Russell to "If he knew Someone like you with dull heads will interpret it to mean Jesus is his God."

When you noticed that it was on the same basis that watchtower society change their doctrines and even admitted that they were actually wrong.

Just different lies from the same lying mouth.

Peacefullove:
Mr man, show me where he ever claimed Jesus is his God ?

From Russell was mislead by TRANSLATION to Those men (Russell and his team) didn't know worshipping Jesus was wrong to IT WAS JUST A RESPECT now you have shifted the blame on those after Russell to "If he knew Someone like you with dull heads will interpret it to mean Jesus is his God."

When you noticed that it was on the same basis that watchtower society change their doctrines and even admitted that they were actually wrong.

Just different lies from the same lying mouth.

Peacefullove:
A materialized Jesus appear after Hus ressurection not a fully human.



That single one exposes others as fraud.



" Although we are nowhere instructed to make petitions to him, " - Russell.

He admit this , How would a person said He is no where instructed to make petition to his God ?

Show me where he claimed Jesus is his God ??



John 20:17 My GOD and * YOUR GOD

The YOUR is important for me to see. Anyone can be called *GOD* , Even humans are called GODS , BUT the designation " OUR GOD " showing total submission to a supreme being is not applied to anyone else from the Father.


Jesus is never called OUR GOD. Emusan so you can't find anywhere Jesus Is called our God. Yeye



Daniel was worshipped yet was never called anyone's God. If that can be correct, someone who also uses worship in the same respect for Jesus is also correct. But if that word is wrong to have been used for Daniel, Its also wrong for Jesus WHOM RUSELL Admit is a creation like Daniel. Neither did he call Jesus his God. This is where correction comes in, they didn't know its wrong to apply worship to someone that's not God. So its not a sin , it would have been a different ball game if We find evidence him saying Jesus his HIS GOD. I promise you won't find any

From Russell was mislead by TRANSLATION to Those men (Russell and his team) didn't know worshipping Jesus was wrong to IT WAS JUST A RESPECT now you have shifted the blame on those after Russell to "If he knew Someone like you with dull heads will interpret it to mean Jesus is his God."

When you noticed that it was on the same basis that watchtower society change their doctrines and even admitted that they were actually wrong.


Just different lies from the same lying mouth.

achorladey:
I hope you get the desired response or DIVERSION comes in as usual.

As usual, you can see his respond with Matt 7:7
And one will begin to wonder, how Matt 7:7 related with my question...

Maximus69:
APOLOGIZE for insulting your teacher Sir!

You can't eat your cake and still have it, if i'm responding to your questions regarding my FAITH, it's because i respected and honour you! Matthew 7:12

I can see you're silent on my question, which is:

Is Holy spirit a separate thing from Jehovah Himself?

Maximus69:

Even the matter makes you laugh too.....

I guess it's "the light getting brighter" method your brother is using here too.

As organization as followers!

freshboi88:
From claiming Russell didn't know that worshipping Jesus was wrong and so it's not a sin to Russell didn't worship Jesus......

Peacefullove y r u like this, talking with both sides of the mouth.... Thts proof to show u r a liar

The lying liar mouth doesn't have a single shame.

Imagine someone who openly said that The old men didn't know worshipping Jesus was wrong, then shifted to TRANSLATION mislead Russell, again to Yes! Russell worshipping Jesus was only TO GIVE JESUS RESPECT. and finally to last nonsense up there.

This is to show you the actual spirit working in them, which is the spirit of their father the Devil.

Barristter07:
with emphasis on Your and Our. Show me where Jesus is Called OUR God ?

Always shifting post. Now, it's YOUR and OUR

"The word was God"
"Thy throne Oh God..."

I know you people lack basic English.

But let me teach you!
If the word was God, and the word became flesh known as Jesus, and Jesus Christ is OUR Savior.

Definitely the Saviour is OUR GOD!

Now wonder you people change that verse to "a god" because you know the implication.

Peacefullove:
Humans at Genesis 5:2 are creatures with blood , Not just Flesh and Bones.

And what is your point here?

That is enough prove.

Hypocrite!

It's enough prove because you know the rest are against your lies.

Nowhere did he claimed Jesus is His God.

You can keep that lie

So why praying to Jesus if Jesus isn't his God?

Where is " YOUR " in the above ??

Its like something is doing your Brain

John 20:17 says " YOUR GOD " not Just God.

When you have where Jesus is called YOUR God or OUR God. Quote me, I dare you won't find any

So funny how you people dance around like headless chicken. Now, it's YOUR and OUR

The Bible says, "...and the word was God" & "Thy throne Oh God..."

And that Make Daniel the God of Nebuchadnezzar . So ?

If Daniel didnt become the God of Nebuchadnezzar for accepting Worship, then worship here meant a different sense. Same with Russell who never claimed Jesus is his God.

Brainwashed . its not Ruseel that's the problem. He didnt say Jesus is his God. Its the Fact that the word worship should actually be reserved solely for OUR GOD. And not anyone else , not even Jesus.



If he knew Someone like you with dull heads will interpret it to mean Jesus is his God . when He never claimed that . he won't have used it. That's my point. Hence he didnt know it will confuse your likes to use that word or else Folks with small thinking like you will misinterpret.

Record never said he refer to Jesus as His God. That alone kill your points instantly.

After your blatant lying mouth was exposed you still have gut to open your mouth to spew nonsense.

From Russell was mislead by TRANSLATION to Those men (Russell and his team) didn't know worshipping Jesus was wrong to IT WAS JUST A RESPECT now you have shifted the blame on those after Russell to "If he knew Someone like you with dull heads will interpret it to mean Jesus is his God." when you noticed that it was on the same basis that watchtower society change their doctrines and even admitted that they were actually wrong.

Just different lies from the same lying mouth.

When you even realize that Russell also Prayed to Jesus.

The attached is still there for you....oni ro buruku!

Maximus69:
[s]That's exactly my former religious views!
They will say the man never intended stealing the item but your hand did" so they'll amputate that hand and set the thief to go scot-free!
They'll say he never intended raping the victim but his manhood did therefore they'll amputate the organ so the rapist is free to go! [/s]

Off point!
My instrument isn't part of myself, you can tell me any of my instrument you mean!

I believe Jesus is God's son NOT Josephs because Mary God pregnant through God's holy spirit NOT through sex with Joseph!

So God's ACTIVE FORCE means his means of getting things done!

So it's a separate THING from Jehovah, right?

Peacefullove:
Humans at Gen 5:2 are Creation that function with blood. That your blunder is on record man.

You first started with Mr fully human flesh and blood, now it's Mr fully human flesh and bones

What is your problem in the first place?

Why are you so confused and trying to drag people into your confusion?

John 9:38

Contemporary English Version
The man said, "Lord, I put my faith in you!" Then he worshiped Jesus.

Good News Translation
"I believe, Lord!" the man said, and knelt down before Jesus.

Weymouth New Testament
"I believe, Sir," he said. And he threw himself at His feet.


Young's Literal Translation
and he said, 'I believe, sir,' and bowed before him

Was this only the place the word "worship" was used for Christ?

Show us other place and how the same translations put it.

My God and YOUR GOD. - John 20:17

YOUR GOD.

Whom did he refer as my God and YOUR GOD ??

We can't have two Gods, So who is this OUR GOD ?

Yes! And that's what make Russell and his team an idolater because they have two Gods

But Jesus is your God

"...and the word was God"
"Thy throne Oh God... "

Daniel is the God of Nebuchadnezzar?

Always off point

Did worship someone or things make them your God or not?

Russell didnt worship Jesus as God. Like you dull Trinitarians.

I still demand where he said Jesus Is Almighty God.!

Now that you can't find proof he regard Jesus as God, You are asking " IF "

Simply means He gave him respect.

Your polytheism tag is Fully found a lie

Show me Russell's error in this regard .. I expected to see a man who worship Jesus as God like you dumb Trinitarians

So you know he only gave him RESPECT yet you first claimed he was mislead by TRANSLATIONS and what they (Russell and his team) are doing by worshipping Jesus is wrong, which isn't a sin since the Bible says whatever you don't know isn't a sin.

Russell was mislead by translations and given Jesus respect wrongfully.

Then a reasonable question to ask is while then did watchtower have to change their doctrines if what RUSSELL and his team did were just given respect to Jesus Christ

I have to end it up here because it's soo shameful that your lying mouth doesn't have any dignity.

See the pic attached below

They wanted to stone him for their accusation, So why won't they attack him if worship here meant what your deluded head is telling you ?

Yet he didnt believe Jesus was God Almighty ? Are you okay at all ?

Ye are Gods - Yahweh says .

But all of us including Jesus have ONE GOD, THE FATHER OF ALL - Eph 4:6

Maximus69:
Did your instrument know what is in your brain?
The holy spirit means Jehovah's active force to us Sir, so it's just Jehovah's instrument like a screwdriver, if Jehovah didn't mean to use it, it can't operate on it's own.
But if you've gotten a totally different opinion, go and make use of what you know Sir everyone is watching out to see the BENEFITS of your knowledge!

My instrument isn't part of myself.

So is Jehovah active force a separate being/thing/from God Himself right?

Maximus69:
But Jesus said NOBODY knows not even the angels (who are also spirits) nor the son (Jesus himself) but the father ALONE! Matthew 24:36

Abi this your Holy Ghost is no more a person like Jesus?

This TRINITY needs loads of backup lies to get roots in your heart ooooooo!

Are you then saying the Holy Spirit didn't know the things of God then?

Peacefullove:
Mumu. Add blood. Genesis 5:2 that which he called human has blood.

Ode...and animals are human too since they have blood.

What people understand is the word " Worship " should be reserved solely for OUR GOD. Matt 4:10.

This is why many translations now use " prostrate, obeisance , bow down " for every other persons.

So Russell didn't know that Matt 4:10 was in his Bible before he worship Jesus along side of Jehovah

So can you show us translations that used prostrate, bow down, for where it was talking about Jesus?

The word Worship was misused by most bibles

This is your figment of your deluded mind.

The same reason modern translations use Bow down to replace worship used by old translations where its not appropriate.

Show us how these translations rendered it when it's about Jesus Christ.

Who is that other God Russell worship ? I demand an answer .

Jesus Christ.

, " ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to MY God and YOUR GOD.’” - John 20:17

Did Jesus lied here that he isn't our God ?

Where did He say He isn't OUR GOD in that verse?

"...And the Word was God"
"...To thy throne Oh God"

Jehovah is his God.
Did he worship Jesus as God ??

To worship someone means the person is your God.

So which worship did Russell worship Jesus for if not as God?

Again, why then did your demonic organization change the doctrine of worshipping of Jesus Christ and admitted they made error, if what Russell did was right?

The translation says Jesus received worship and the Pharisees see no wrong. Does that not tell you what occurred in that scene is not an Act of worship to God?

The same Pharisees say Jesus claimed to be God, making Himself equal to God for calling Himself the Son of God...why do you think they will oppose Him when people worshipped Him?

Divinity in what sense , Mary carries God and his divine nature in her womb for 9 months ? Mary clearly will be the Mother of God ...

You have started your delusion to divert attention again...

It's clear from the quote that Divinity RUSSELL meant isn't Divine quality/character but Divine nature.

Why do you remove the highlighted in your statement at blue. Am also a God if you don't know. This is different from being GOD. That " a" makes a difference. You are not wise

If you're a God then good for you.

Of course the 'a' makes a difference that's why you people added it in the first place, that's why you'll continue to deny Jesus as God.

" Our Lord Jesus Christ is a God . . . still the united voice of the Scriptures must emphatically assert that there is but one Almighty. God, the Father of all. " Studies in the Scriptures. Vol. V, page 55.

Its not what you are thinking.

And you're also a God which means you and Jesus Christ are the same.

Peacefullove:
I know it pains. But that record will live long on Nairaland.

Fully human = flesh and bones.

So fully human isn't flesh and bones to you?

Matthew 4:10

" Jesus answered him, "It is written, 'You are to worship the Lord your God and serve only him.'"

Satan wasn't tempting His God. Because God cannot be tempted with evil, the focus point is " YOUR GOD "

Jesus is not our God - John 20:17

Even in heaven, we are told Jesus is not our God

" And they cried out in a loud voice: "Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne , and to the Lamb [Jesus] " Rev 7:10

That's the God of Jesus Christ too.

My question is:

So how did people now know that worshipping and reverence Jesus is wrong?

You're still beating about the without straight answer to my question.

Good you admit.

Admit what?

That's because no one claim they are God. My focus now is : Does this man claim Jesus is God ?

He never said Jesus is God. That's when I will agree he followed the Misused translation. So he never meant worship in a different way than Translators used it for humans.

Keep lying....

The @underlined really shows how a chronic lying mouth sound.

Russell and his team always place Jesus along side of Jehovah in worship.

No translation ever put human worship along side of God.

Which means Russell and his team knows exactly what they're teaching not misused translation.

So why did watchtower society then REMOVE this type of worship and term it as idolatry if what Russell did wasn't PURE WORSHIP?

Polytheist definition:

Believe in more than one God.

Can I get where he declared Jesus God ?

Till then, You are still lying.

So your dull brain didn't tell you that Polytheist is also worshipping more than one God.

Who command those humans to be worshiped at Rev 3:9 ?

Jesus himself command it to happen . the point is someone command humans to be worshiped too.

Jesus is not OUR GOD. We are to worship OUR GOD - Matt 4:10. Not Yeshua

And I need reference of where this man claimed Jesus is our God?

Who are the human Jesus commanded to be worshipped in Rev 3:9?

And where are these humans recorded to be worshipped in the scripture?

Jesus is OUR GOD

You can hit your dull skull on rock about that.

One thing would always work against you . this guy doesnt see Jesus as GOD Almighty deserving of worship.

Why did he worship Jesus along side of Jehovah then?

John 9:37-39 is the funniest thing have read . let me quote it from a translation that says worship.


37 Then the man said, “Lord, I believe,” and he worshiped him.

39 Jesus said,[a] “For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind.”

40 Some Pharisees who were with him heard him say this and asked, “What? Are we blind too?”


How come the Pharisses says nothing when a man WORSHIPPED another man right in their presence if the way this people meant worship referred to being God ??

U read more into the word worshipped because you have been thoroughly deceived.

The same Pharisees say for Jesus to be claiming to be the Son of God means He is making Himself EQUAL WITH GOD....

What sayeth thou?

Divinity means Divine qualities/characteristics. I think I educate you earlier.

Did he believe he was God on earth ?

But you claimed no Divinity dwell in His human body!

And Divinity is also Divine Nature!

Meanwhile, the Divinty Russell spoke about isn't quality because he said "It seems clear that his DIVINITY was RETAINED in his humanity because He repeatedly spoke of Himself as having come down from heaven, and because He, though passing through trial and sorrow as a man, was yet possessed of the authority and exercised the prerogatives of a God."

Yes he believes he was God on earth...

Maximus69:
Of course they can make mistakes because they are imperfect humans just like the first century Christians also made mistakes!

Which means their doctrines are just human philosophies which didn't come from God.

So it's the fruits they're able to bear that's attracting honest hearted people to the Organization Sir!

The difference between you people and adherents of Jehovah's Witnesses Organization is that you people choose any of the churches that soothes your likeness out of the different religious groups claiming Christians and forget about the contradictions amongst those claiming worshipers of your God, while we stick to oneness and unique line of thought governing a worldwide family of peace!

This is the most deluded statement ever....

You convertered from Islam to JWs, isn't it that you choose the church that soothes your likeness too?

Hypocrite!

Maximus69:
According to what the Organization teaches, the Governing Body is NOT inspired in anyway Sir!

They only devote their time to diligent study of God's word, that's why God is using his holy spirit to direct them to things they need to know in the scriptures NOT inspiring them like Bible writers who penned down the things we are all studying today!

If they are not inspired, it means they are using human wisdom to teach people, then we can ask!

Can they make any mistakes or teach any wrong doctrines?

If though, the demonic organization claimed in many places that God is directing them...

Only a fool will believe God is directing someone and the person isn't inspired.

Peacefullove:
Fully human is flesh and bones ... Sorry , i know that thing still dey pain una. Mr Moses and Elijah are spirit beings

When he didn't know what to say again....

Further Research shows the word worship was misused by Many translations, We have Daniel and David accepting worship , Revelation 3:9 is also another record. Whereas Jesus himself worship someone.

This was my question..

So how did people now know that worshipping and reverence Jesus is wrong?

But even if the word was misused, DID ANYBODY EVER TEACH THAT David and Daniel should be worshipped and reverend? The way Russell and His team openly teached that Jesus should be worshipped and reverend.

So what is the importance of Russell being INSPIRED BY GOD, if he still went ahead to follow the same MISUSED INTERPRETATION?

This is delusion. The man isn't a Trinitarian

What made you think he his didnt use of worship for Jesus , in isn't the same sense KJV applied it to OTHER humans? Does that make the humans Almighty for accepting worship? Does this man believe Jesus is the Almighty God ?

You're still grasping for air to lie more!

He isn't a Trinitarian but polytheist.

The OTHER HUMAN were not commanded to be WORSHIPPED just as Jesus was commanded to be worshipped.

This is the basis of Russell for teaching the worship and reverence of Jesus Christ. Which is the same form of worship given to the true God.

Russell holds the DOCTRINE OF PRAYING TO JESUS Christ!

Let me put it for you the way Russell himself put it so that your dull skull can be reset.

"Question. The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty? Answer. Yes, we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so. It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father and his agent in the creation of all things, including man." Zion's Watch Tower 1898 Jul 15 p.216

From here, Russell himself didn't see any wrong FAULTY TRANSLATION but you concluded on his behalf that there's a problem in the translation.

Lastly, the same Russell you're fighting tooth and nail for here, also believed that DIVINITY WAS HIDDEN IN THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST.

Well you can continue to dwell in your delusions!

freshboi88:
Hahaha peacefullove nah MUMU ah swear!!!! So Russell who was divinely inspired made a mistake of worshipping Jesus. If he was truly inspired, isn't it obvious he was inspired by the Spirit to worship Jesus?

It also means that modern day JWs are not divinely inspired

The most astonished part is that...

Russell did not only claim to be inspired but claim to be the VERY MOUTHPIECE of Jehovah.

Just imagine the very mouthpiece of Jehovah is still ignorance of what were written in the Bible.

It's either Russell lied that he was inspired and be the very mouthpiece of Jehovah or the inspiration is true which is what Jehovah wants, which is worshipping and reverence Jesus Christ is correct.

Then it means it's today's JWs who are actually teaching wrong doctrines.

Peacefullove:
Oga , You dont need to bother yourself , is it written in your Bible that if anyone does not know something is wrong, its not a sin ?

So why are you allowing Mr Fully human is flesh and blood and the so called achorladey to dribble you lol. Those former men didnt know those things like worship to Jesus are wrong. Its not a sin . But the Mumu here who have been shown their wrongs and still arguing are the one to be pitied.


Emusan and achorladey : Do you agree Mary carried God himself with his divine nature in her womb ??

This deluded one is back, just see how my posts are causing severe pains on you....

Imagine, even jump like a kangaroo into what doesn't concern you and spew thrash.

According to you "Those former men didnt know those things like worship to Jesus are wrong. Its not a sin."

1. So how did people now know that worshipping and reverence Jesus is wrong?

2. Do you then also agree that people before Russell who worshipped and reverend Jesus Christ weren't wrong either nor commit sin? Which then makes all of them to be part of the heavenly ones.

TATIME:
Really pathetic!

TATIME is dying slowly out of heart attack seeing God's people who are in harmony where love, joy and peace reigns. He wants to prove them wrong but he couldn't so he's now frustrated and so ashamed to hide his face! Isaiah 54:17

Did God hate idolatry? Which is worshipping and reverence another being along side of the true God.

Did Russell and his team worshipp and reverence Jesus Christ?

Revelation 21:8 says "...all idolaters will have their part in the lake of fire" do you agree?

I know you will craw back to your hiding place again.

Janosky:
The Trinitarian FRAUD of Hebrews 1:6 MISLEAD vast generations of sincere Bible readers since inception of the KJV.
The Mercies of the Magnificent Potter, Yahweh can speak for those in the past DECEIVED by the Trinitarian FRAUD

Acts 24:15 & Romans 9:14-21 still dey your Bible?

Yahweh's Mercies can not speak for today's IDOL WORSHIPPERS who deliberately PERSISTS with the Trinitarian FRAUD and ignore Jesus Christ's wise advice of Matthew 4:10

So Russell and his team were deceived for more than 40years waoooooo another delusion.

Only when you even realize that Russell claimed to be the very MOUTHPIECE of Yahweh and that everything he taught were are inspired. Just as your deluded brother added that they were began to be taught by CHRIST HIMSELF.

Only for this follower of idol worshippers to come and said RUSSELL was deceived.

If RUSSELL was deceived, were Rutherford and Knorr also deceived?

If the excuse of Russell being deceived holds, then everyone before Russell were also part of the heavenly one. Since God knows that they were deceived.

Maximus69:
(1) All what David did with Bathsheba was IDOLATRY according to Paul's {Col 3:5} David ordinarily will never bow to an idol due to he knew from God's law {Exo 20:2-4} but because he didn't know that what he did was tantamount to IDOLATRY that's why he did it. So far so good he did made corrections to the level of what he knew back then, yet accurate knowledge of God eludes him because he never met Christ the only person who impact the knowledge of God in us! Joh 14:6

So did David die by continue to commit adultery or immediately he slept with Bathsheba?

Did God condemn David for what he did?

Did David repent from that act and was another such incident recorded about him in the Bible again?

These are the questions that beg for answers but as usual you will boycott them just as you can't point a single verse from the scripture to support your GOD'S PROPHETS died as idolaters.

(2)No! Because God's people according to Paul must have the same line of thought (Rom 15:5-6; 1Cor 1:10} there shouldn't be differences in rules of conduct, Russell and his team did all they could see reasons with the churches in America but they told him bluntly "go and start your own, this is what our founder lay down" so the same thing is happening today Sir, all Christians supposed to have the same line of thought regarding justice, only the group that continued with Russell's further research that's going to meet people at home to make that possible today, all what you guys will say is "find a Bible believing Church" when there is Contradictions everywhere!

If this is true, then why is there DIFFERENCES in the line of thought of Russell and today's JWs?

Worshipping and reverence Jesus Christ is it the same line of thought with worshipping and reverence Jesus Christ is an idolatry?

(3) Separation becomes necessary when you notice dogmatism in the people you worship with, Russell and his team noticed that the church is not meeting up with the requirements of pure worship but they don't know what was the cause until they separated {Rev 18:4} then Jesus (in spirit) began putting them through gradually as his custom! Hebr 13:8

But you first Claimed that Russell wasn't inspired....

How come he was taught by Jesus Himself?

If Russell and his team were taught by Jesus Christ Himself, don't you think Jesus would have told him that worshipping and reverence Him is an idolatry?

Wasn't the same Jesus who told John in Revelation that all idolaters will have their base in the lake of fire?

(4) Jesus came to rescue sinners {Matthew 9:13} so no matter how degrading your former beliefs as long as you're gradually making research for the truth Jesus (TRUTH) will cherish you! Joh 14:6

Then why do you claim only JWs have the TRUTH when the door of searching for the TRUTH for everyone has not closed?

Is it only JWs who are searching for the truth today?

How can we know who has the truth when we already have the Bible?

It was written before RUSSELL and his team were born, that God hates idolatry which is worshipping another being along side of God.

You claim Jesus Himself began to teach Russell and his team, yet Russell and his team ended up worshipping the same Christ.

Doesn't that mean RUSSELL and his team are the one doing the right thing why today's JWs are wrong?

(5) You only become an idol worshiper in God's view when you're furious at those trying to make further research on what you all knew but if you produce what is expected, those leaving are now the idol worshipers, because where the spirit of God dwells there must be improvement! 1Cor 14:33

See another delusion....

It's boldly written in the law of God which is even the first commandment "Thou shall not have ANY OTHER god nor bow down before any god"

You have inserted your own lie into scripture.

If we should go by that line, then how do you call a Trinitarian, Traditional worshippers, Islam, Buddhism e.t.c an idol worshippers when both are all making FURTHER RESEARCH.

Or you mean only JWs are the one making FURTHER research?

Janosky:
1)
Janosky GRAND DELUSION .
Have you not been writing my NL moniker in your posts?

I put your moniker where it fitted....

So stop spamming my mention.... I know you're doing that in other to make everything confusing and your lies are covered.

2).
Idol WORSHIPPER, Matthew 4:10,Rev3:5 Jesus Christ is talking to you.
WORSHIP the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

So Jesus Christ wasn't talking to Russell and his team in Matt 4:10, Rev 3:5 or that place was written after their death?

Hypocrite!

3).
My Mama soup (I mean JW) Sweet pass the JUNK of idol WORSHIPPERS .
It's for the same reasoning why Kumuyi and him Slave call you and your Trinity crew IDOL WORSHIPPERS .

Just as very pathetic that your own demonic organization called his founder an idolater. Kumuyi can anyone idol worshippers including JWs but your organization calling its own founder an idol worshipper is the height of it when you know both claim to be directed by the same SPIRIT.

Acts 24:15
" I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked"

I have freeness of speech and freedom of speech.
If your way pure , you no go vex.
Because your way no pure, JW matter dey give you sifia pains & sleepless nights.

It's obvious here that you never addressed any of my points but just perambulating up and down.

You said only God can determine Russell and his team who worshipped Jesus Christ and later became idol worshippers.

Here is my point again:

So I don't have power to Russell fate but you hypocrite JWs have power to determine another people fate!

That's why you people will remain an hypocrite forever.

From the scripture, God hates idolatry which is worshipping another being along the true God.
Now, Russell and his team worshipped Jesus which you people claimed is an idolatry.

Do you need special deliverance to know that Russell did what Jehovah detests? Which Revation even said their end is lake of fire.

The Jealous God Yahweh is going to resurrect idol worshippers, Emusan deal WITH IT !

So what happened if jealous God Yahweh resurrected the IDOL WORSHIPPERS?

But I thought Russell is already with Christ ruling in heaven.

Ordinary Clay wants to decide for the Magnificent Potter.
TUEH !!!!!!!

Are you not deciding for this same magnificent Potter by claiming other aren't part of His kingdom?

Maximus69:
Keep crying Emusan!

Keep wailing....and keep bringing different versions.

God doesn't condemn his faithful servants for the crime they don't know Sir!

Another version again...

So how did David commit idolatry and he didn't know according to you?

So prophets who died in their sins didn't know too bah

That means your god must be a wicked god for punishing people for what they don't know

Russell and his team did all they could to improve before they died, that's what God cherish in them!

So are people not TRYING TO IMPROVE in what they do today? Hypocrite!

So the partial God only cherish Russell and condemned the rest.

It's you that's labelling them as idolaters, before God they're humbe and obedient to the level of what they knew during their own time!

Your demonic organization labelled them not me because it's certain that Russell and his team worshipped and reverenced Jesus Christ till they died.

And all of a sudden, worshipping and reverence of Jesus became IDOLATRY, so Russell and his team are idol worshippers.

They separated themselves from Churches of Christendom that's living on dogmas, and keep digging to make further amendments in their dealings with God.

Yet they still uphold the very doctrines of what they separated from, so what is the essence of the separation?

Sorry Mr Emusan Russell and his team totally differs from those idol worshipers who killed others out of envy for making further research!

But the same Russell and his team died as idolaters.

So the others who were making further research that the idol worshippers killed, are they JWs or Followers of Christ?

So what make this people and idol worshippers?

I know you'll boycott these questions as usual.

Maximus69:
Going by your analogy, YES most prophets of God died as IDOLATERS!

The analogy is, worshipping ANOTHER BEING along side of God....not their imperfect life!

Tell us from the scripture any prophets that worshipped another being along side of God and God allowed to die in it, to the extent that God still rewards the prophet with His kingdom.

David is the second King of Israel and one of the prominent prophets who was inspired to write so many things about the coming of the Christ.

For your information, a king in Israel must have WRITTEN all the laws of God with his own hands, meaning David knew all God's laws but never realized that sexual immortality, uncleanliness, uncontrolled sexual passions, hurt desires and greed are all IDOLATRY! Colossians 3:5

If David never knew what he did as IDOLATRY, but Apostle Paul later wrote to the Colossian Christians that all those things (which David did) were idolatry, Mr Emusan the case is closed!

It's either you agree that David (God's Prophet) died as an idolater or obedient mankind is learning gradually from God!

Show us where it was written in the Bible that David or any prophets died as idolater.

When David committed adultery, did he die in that process or repent?

Now if people died as an idol worshippers in the Bible what is the essence of God correcting people for worshipping idol?

This is the question you haven't answered but dodging here and there....just because you know it'll expose your lies.

Janosky:
Janosky. MUMU NOISE as usual....

You have NOT REALLY CONFESSED wetin Mr Russell really do you

What did Russell confess?

The king who had the most peaceful reign in Israel ,king Solomon died in idolatry , DEAL WITH IT..
So, what's your business with Mr Russell's fate ?

So will Solomon enter God's Kingdom?

You WORSHIP Jesus, something you know Jesus Christ himself CONDEMNED in your Bible, so what's the basis for your wailing?

This is where we are going....

Didn't Russell and his team also worship Jesus?

So Russell who is the mouthpiece of Jehovah and his team worshipped Jesus and Jesus Himself condemned worshipping of Him...

It's like Russell didn't know it was written in the Bible...oma se oooo

O ye followers of idol worshippers everywhere

[s]Kumuyi slave and Kumuyi himself called Janosky and his Trinitarian Comrades "idol worshippers", Janosky no complain, why him dey wail upandan for this thread?[/s]

Takeit2017:
God why? Why me?
I dnt have confidence speaking good English always Craming what to say?

Please help me.

I was once in your shoes....and it was when I joined Nairaland then that people point my attention to it which I didn't pick offense with but used that as an advantage to improve myself.

This is what I did back then, I went back to simple tenses to understand how verbs are used in a sentence.

1. I'll advice you not to read any book which has nothing to do with basic English.

2. Get books on Simple Tenses or browse about that topic on internet.

With this, you'll know how verbs are used in a sentence which in turn help you to construct correct sentences.

3. Then, you can add Pronouns, Adjective, common mistakes in English to it.

I even created this thread to help people who are in my shoes then, you can go through it!

https://www.nairaland.com/3353009/more-than-just-simple-mistakes

Maximus69:
There are many prophets of God who died as idolaters Sir, but if your attention is not called to it you won't know!

The @bold is even enough to know the spirit that is working in you all because you want to prove that Russell died as an idol worshipper.

So what is the whole essence of God for hating idolatry, if the same God allowed prophets to die as idolaters?

When the very Bible verse you cited say "Galatians 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Yet you believe Russell and his team will still inherit the kingdom of God. Truly devil is playing ludo with your life!

Very soon you'll say Jesus himself died as idolater....

For instance,

Noah was God's prophet, he committed idolatry by getting drunk. Genesis 9:21
Of course the light has not come during his own time {Proverbs 4:18} to make him know that drunkenness is IDOLATRY! Galatians 5:21

So didn't the light come before Russell and his team for them to know that Jehovah hates idolatry?

Or was it after the death of Russell and his team that Proverbs 4:18 was written?

David hated IDOLATRY with a passion {1Samuel 17:36} yet this same David got engaged in sexual immortality, uncontrolled sexual passions, hurtful desires and greed which we later learnt that are all IDOLATRY! Colossians 3:5

So David died as an idolater, right?

Please Sir it's a gradual process, just make amendments when you find someone to correct you that's all!

Why must there be gradual process when God allowed people to die as idolaters in the first place?

Why must God correct people when He knows dying as idolaters didn't mean anything to Him?

Who did God send to correct Russell and his team?

It doesn't make the one God sent to correct you perfect or holier than you in any way.

That's how Jehovah does things!

Then your god is a partial god who will allow people to die as an idol worshippers without correcting.

The true God hates idolatry from onset and never allows any of His people to worship any created being.

Well, what can you say to someone who can boldly say "MANY PROPHETS OF GOD DIED AS AN IDOLATERS"