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It's obvious you're frustrated and it's boldly written in your countenance....calm down!

So next time check your post well before submitting and safe me from copy and paste, if such happened again, I won't reply you.

Peacefullove:
If only you know the implication of the above, Then it means Mary Gave birth to GOD ?

If only if you know when the Divine Nature joined the Human Body

Which is the important of that Col 2:9

That aspect you both are discussing was a miracle no one understands . Its like trying to explain how Marys Eggs got fertilized without sperm

Shut up....you liar!

He claimed what God sent into the womb of Mary is LIFE FORCE and at the same time said THE LIFE FORCE isn't THE ACTUAL PERSON....so tell us what did the Father send?


Olodo...

Man is lower than angels.

Man doesnt have divine nature in him.

Jesus must follow that format to be lower than angels or else He is above angels any time any day when. He came to earth.

If Jesus must follow that format and only human, how come Jesus be able to TRANSFIGURE at the mount?

Don't boycott this question?

How could he when the text says clearly that He was sown a physical body and raises a Spiritual body. Spiritual isn't physical Mr. Check

So was this particular TEXT not for ALL THE DEAD?

This is where you shot yourself in the foot.

Which means ALL DEAD will be resurrected with a SPIRITUAL BODY!

Then Apostle Paul also confirmed this in Romans 6:5;

ASV: For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection;

AMP: For if we have become one with Him [permanently united] in the likeness of His death, we will also certainly be [one with Him and share fully] in the likeness of His resurrection.

BRG: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

CSB: For if we have been united with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be in the likeness of his resurrection.

KJV: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Dont angels appear like that in the past and even claim to be men ?
Judges 13 vs 11
Manoah got up and followed his wife. When he came to the man, he said, “Are you the man who talked to my wife?”
“I am,” he said.
A Spirit being claiming to be a man.

Olodo.....Do the angel claim to have FLESH and BONES like Jesus said?

What did you expect the Angel to say, when it's what the woman told her husband that the husband asked the angel....

Your ignorance is sticking.

So if you agree that the Angel was FULLY MAN

Then you shot yourself in the foot again because after the burnt offering the same MAN went to heaven as the flame ascended. So your Man will enter heaven with FLESH AND BONES.

That same word means " Divinity"
Define Divinity ? Quality/character of being divine.
The HOT consequence of ascribing it means God nature in human form is it makes Mary mother of God .

DIVINE NATURE DWELL in BODILY....

Only if you know when the hypothetical natures joined together.

Its obvious u have nothing to say here. He was right that image of heavenly one cannot be the same as image of God. One is said to be heavenly , the other is not.

Then who said image of the heavenly one is the same as Image of God!

That was the reason I said you just jump like kangaroo into what you didn't know and begins to talk rubbish.

freshboi88:
Yesterday today and forever= personality

Isn't this the height of stupidity.

You can see how their twisting and lying mouths being exposed here....

They're ready to give scripture any meaning as long as it will suit their demonic doctrines, you can see that on this thread how they have been jumping and denying Greek words.

Peacefullove:
Your years never end

Define never and explain how Jesus dying fit the word " never " ?

This was my post which you ignored but started jumping up and down.

See twisting....

Now it's PERSONALITY....

Show us the Greek word(s) rendered as PERSONALITY in that scripture....

No wonder the seed your organization produces are lies and brainwashed.

NOTE: When next you want to dive into my post never discuss with me with the writing "XTIANS"

Peacefullove:
Most Xtians agree sending of Yeshua is a Miracle . if this is the case it makes no sense trying to prove an irrelevant point from that. Yeshua was not killed neither did he came with his divine nature. To come with his nature is to be above human

It's a miracle because DIvine Nature and Human Nature co-exist which if they don't then no miracle taken place.

Besides, you just jumped like kangaroo into something you never fully understand.

He claimed LIFE FORCE isn't an ACTUAL PERSON but just shit of INFORMATION ABOUT THE PERSON and it's this same life force God sent into the womb of Mary.

When what God SENT is A PERSON...

Are two of you making any sense?

Humans are lower than angels , but they didn't retain divine nature in their bodies . if they do , They are higher than angels. Jesus had to come to Adams level.

You are confused....

"Human didn't retain Divine Nature"
Jesus ONLY share the NATURE of human....
The first man was from the earth but the last man is A QUICKNEN SPIRIT.

Ressurection means to die and come alive. If that passage of put on applies to getting a new body at ressurection , what stop it from applying to Jesus?

That's why I said you're a confused being....

Isn't my point centered on Jesus posseses the same body He died with?

He scored a point where it says it was buried as a physical body and raised as a spiritual one. Spiritual and physical are not the same . A Spirit doesnt have flesh and bones. Reason being they are physical. Yeshua therefore is no longer composed of the physical. That's the same hope held to those Peter said will have the divine nature.

But He called you a liar when He shows His body to His disciples and even told Thomas to touch.

Which is why you can borrow the same statement He made there "Behold my hands for a SPIRIT have no bones and FLESH as you SEE ME HAVE"

You can see that you're the liar here!

Divine nature can't even dwell in any human either sinful or not because it will raise them higher than angels.

You're a liar Col 2:9 says "DWELL in BODILY"
You can provide your own translation of that verse here and let's see the liar!

If they came from Christ, are they sons of Christ ? U still didn't get the meaning of that statement " heavenly"

You're frustrated and it's boldly written in your countenance....calm down!

Like I said earlier, you just jump like kangaroo to dive into what you didn't understand.

Go back to our previous post to see where the discussion started from.

Peacefullove:
Same yesterday, today and forever is about personality. Simple truth . he died , hebrew said the years of that person never end . never means not even a moment. You guys should stop twisting what's not there

See twisting....

Now it's PERSONALITY....

Show us the Greek word(s) rendered as PERSONALITY in that scripture....

No wonder the seed your organization produces are lies and brainwashed.

NOTE: Failure to reply to my post you cancelled means you won't get any reply from me....

Barristter07:
Since you lacked understanding , Let this cure your delusion.

2 Corinthians 5:21 - " For God made Christ, who never sinned , to be the offering for our sin, "

He himself has no traces of sin in him. Never inherit sin or sinned.

Then who says Christ SINNED?

You're still living in delusion

HE CARRIED our SIN on HIS BODY, isn't that what the scripture said?

Which means the human nature WAS NEVER TAINTED with sin NOT UNTIL He bear our sins ON THE CROSS.

Already answered

Liar answer my questions.

No, but it contains every information about a person. This is why Jesus could say Not one of your hairs will be missing.

So ONLY INFORMATION is what God sent and NOT THE VERY PERSON.

It powers the person

So is it PERSON that God sent or INFORMATION?

Not the actual person, a person is a soul = Body + life force

So what Happened to the BODY WHEN THE LIFE FORCE IS GONE? The person DIED, Isn't it?

This bring us back to the very point earlier that THE FATHER KILLED Jesus.

Again, what then Happened to the very PERSON the life force was REMOVE....

Likewise, this contradicts the scripture that what God sent is a PERSON not just some shit INFORMATION....

We are lower than angels because we are Ordinary humans . For someone to have the divine nature dwelling in them . They are not lower than angels. You can't escape this lie. They are beyond human

IS Jesus not FULLY HUMAN?

I've done with this....no reply next time!

Fully human But Heavenly , and that one is lower than angels in your eyes ?

Is human not lower than the Angels?
Is Jesus FULLY HUMAN?

You need help

And your delusion needs reformatting.

PUT ON here does not mean Transformed . if that's the Case , billions that have died and rotten into dust Will make this Scripture a Lie. They should have been Transformed immediately. its obvious you are just a liar.

Is evident that your delusion is incurable...

This is talking about what will happen at RESURRECTION

Olodo...oshi

Your second point.- What is born of Spirit is SPIRIT . not flesh.

Again it says " it is down a physical body and raised a Spiritual body "

Spiritual defined as that which is OPPOSED TO PHYSICAL

But do you see the FLESH in Jesus statement as OPPOSED to the SPIRIT?

Now you've vindicate my earlier point when I said

"scripture always contrasts FLESH and SPIRIT"

Hypocrite!

You can't be raised as a spiritual being and still retain Physical nature.

Nowhere in the scripture you will find RASIED AS SPIRITUAL BEING that's is your own lie about the scripture.

Apostle Paul says PUT ON which is

Strong's Concordance
enduo: I put on, clothe
Original Word: ἐνδύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: enduo
Phonetic Spelling: (en-doo'-o)
Definition: to clothe or be clothed with (in the sense of sinking into a garment)
Usage: I put on, clothe (another).

That means ALL the bodies of the apostles that have rotten in the graves should not have rotten at all , Do you now see how low your thinking is ?

AT RESURRECTION....dumb skull!

Jesus didn't take up a sinful Nature. liar ... Jesus was a perfect Man just as Adam when he was Created. Adam even before he sinned was lower than angels.

Then who says Jesus isn't PERFECT.....

Your short of memory is greatly affecting your delusion the more!.

Remember, what leads to this is when you want to proof that DIVINE NATURE can't DWELL in a SINFUL NATURE of man, which I then making you understand that the human nature of Christ wasn't TAINTED with SIN not UNTIL He was put on the CROSS a carried the whole world sin.

Short of memory is another sickness of yours...

Wonder why no one is ever called " Son of Jesus "??

Your interpretation was a clear Lie.

Do u ever read that the Father is in anyone's Very image ?? You no just get sense

Image of God means he came from that person whose image he bears.

So image of heavenly one means they came from Christ since they bear Christ image!

There's no how you twist your lying mouth I won't straight it for you.

Grabbing straws

Image of the heavenly one is RESTRICTED TO HEAVEN!!!

So image of heavenly one means they came from Christ since they bear Christ image!

Barristter07:
Image of God is for Gods intelligent creations either in heaven or earth.

You're still lying:

Are angels THE image of God?
Is Man THE image of God

Jesus wasn't created with THE IMAGE of God but THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD

lying liar.

Image of the heavenly one is strictly for those in heaven !!!

And man is created in the image of God.

What is born of Spirit " IS SPIRIT "

Pneuma NOT pneumatikos

Na wa

You means Pneuma isn't also spiritual

What is born of spirit " IS SPIRIT "

And a spirit does not have flesh and bones.

So how could Christians putting faith in Christ live forever on earth as human beings if they are born of spirit ?

Gal 4:23-31 make it clear that CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN are born by the FLESH while the children of the FREEWOMAN are born by the SPIRT.

Which makes it clear that ALL CHRISTIANS/FOLLOWERS of Christ will be born by the SPIRIT.

Since your demonic organization has deceived you that you'll be born by the flesh then it means you're one of the CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN.

Worse is this ones are in the image of God but not the heavenly image.

Is image of heavenly one not make them to have the Nature of the heavenly one?

So image of God should also make man to have the Nature of God.

Gods intelligent creations are in his image. Has nothing to do with nature.

Ole....
But the image of the heavenly one is about his nature!

Twisted mouth and lying tongue.

Barristter07:
Stake .. Yes treated as though tainted with sin at that point.

Just see the way you're just deceiving yourself.

"TREATED AS IF...." Was Him TREATED as if IT WAS TAINTED with sin or ACTUALLY CARRIED the whole SIN of the world?

If we should go with this your statement, it means in real sense the NATURE wasn't tainted with sin but JUST made to look as being TAINTED with sin.

Your delusion never do!

The life force is not conscious neither is it a person , But it powers a nature and make them living .

My questions here are THREE QUESTIONS but as usual you stylishly boycotted the rest by only answer one! Again these are the questions

So this LIFE FORCE/SPIRIT
1. Is it conscious of its own?
2. Was it reside inside something?
3. Was it the ACTUAL PERSON or part of that PERSON?

Also, looking at your answer one can see how myopic you are

You said "LIFE POWERS a NATURE and make them LIVING"

So NATURE is actually THE PERSON while LIFE force That God sent/converted to Human nature/God will resurrect wasn't the ACTUAL PERSON.

Answer the rest of my questions let's see your lying mouth once again.

Going by Divinity , it also means Divine qualities.

You are also using your own opinion here.

I didn't it's you a lying mouth who did.

Did NATURE appear in that verse a you earlier lie that it didn't.

And the point of that verse centered on DWELL IN BODILY which means it's DIVINE NATURE

BUT HE CAN'T HAVE DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN HIM AND BE LOWER THAN ANGELS or Be said to have emptied it.

He had to be human in ALL ASPECT of it. Not adding another nature.

" Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, " Heb 2:10

Having Divine nature doesn't make him one of us in every respect.

His nature was changed. Emptying the first

" He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature " - Emusan

As long as he added human nature . He is lower than the angels.

While on earth he was perfect yet lower than angels .

" You made him a little lower than the angels; You crowned him with glory and honor " Heb 2:7
U lied.

Jesus didn't inherit the corrupted human nature yet Said to be lower than angels .

So far he is human, he is lower than the angels.

" He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature " - Emusan

The DIVINE NATURE/Godhead DWELL in the Body of Christ that's what the Holy book says.

He was made lower than the Angels by becoming HUMAN Is that hard for you to comprehend?

Or didn't we say Jesus was FULLY HUMAN on earth.

Olodo buruku.

You mean he was given ANOTHER BODY ??

Because the body of Jesus functions with full blood. The life of the flesh is in it's blood.

1Cor 15:45 it is sown a physical body and raised a Spiritual body .

Spiritual body isn't physical.

You just keep exposing your ignorance.

The body was RAISED IN POWER the same BODY but now nothing just ORDINARY DECAY/CORRUPTED/WEAK/MORTAL body anymore. Should we operate sense into your dumb skull?

Like I said, what you people lack is scriptural understanding.

Spiritual body NOT A SPIRIT BEING...

Lemme help your deluded mind about what spiritual body means!

1 Corinthian 15:53 "For this corruptible (sinful present body) must PUT ON (Greek word - enduo) incorruptible, and this mortal(frail/decay/weak) must PUT ON (Greek word - enduo) immortality"

Now look at the meaning of the Greek word "enduo" translated as "PUT ON"

Strong's Concordance

enduo: I put on, clothe

Original Word: ἐνδύω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: enduo
Phonetic Spelling: (en-doo'-o)
Definition: to clothe or be clothed with (in the sense of sinking into a garment)
Usage: I put on, clothe (another).

You can see that HUMAN BEING will not suddenly become a SPIRIT BEING because we are created as human and we'll continue to live as human FOREVER.

I guess if you PUT ON your clothe your body suddenly disappeared and your clothe is now you.

Olodo buruku.

You already lied above that he was lower than angels because of sinful human nature. Jesus didn't inherit sin. Someone with Divine nature dwelling in them can't be lower than angels. Neither can he be like us

He was lower than the angels by BECOMING HUMAN BEING which is taking up a SINFUL NATURE....your brain is paining you.

Not even image of Jesus . eeyah. Its clear
Just as Adam he was made in that image of his creator. Adam became a son just as he

You're still opening your lying mouth.

Show us where the scripture says Jesus was CREATED in the Image of God....that's from your deluded brain and mind.

JESUS is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD and even THE EXERT PERSON of the Father.

So you can see how all these keep exposing your lying mouth.

Image of the heavenly one is Restricted to heaven!!! Deal with it.

Image of God makes man to have God's nature....wrap your dull skull with that!

Barristter07:
When he said it is finished. U have an ears , dont you ?

Then we can conclusively say The HUMAN NATURE was not tainted with sin not until He was PUT ON THE CROSS. Right?

Each person has a life force / Spirit of life which returns to God at death. Restoring this brings the person back to LIFE either as a Divine being or human being. This is what happen with Jesus ressurection.

And when he comes to earth, its this same life force that was transferred to Marys woman in a changed Nature.

Now we're going somewhere.

So this LIFE FORCE/SPIRIT
1. Is it conscious of its own?
2. Was it reside inside something?
3. Was it the ACTUAL PERSON or part of that PERSON?

So You agreed Jesus was not raised with his human body he has on earth ?

You want to use style runaway from my point.

Did NATURE appear in that verse?


But you first lied that NATURE was not there....

Now Does THEIOTES mean Divine Nature?

So because PERSONALLY you don't subscribe to the meaning of DIVINE NATURE or GODHEAD the verse should be CHANGE to suit your selfish desire....now see how your father the devil is truly manifesting in you.

The verse clearly says that "DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN BODILY"

Why still on the matter I'm still waiting for you to tell us WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT DIVINE NATURE HE HAS BEFORE BECOMING MAN.

If you ignore any of my questions anymore then forget it

After my explanation you can still confused!

He was raised with human body but that body was raised in power and glory which makes it JUST NOT ORDINARY HUMAN BODY ANYMORE

Now since Jesus is still human in heaven , that means he still added another nature which makes him lower than angels till today

The corrupted human nature makes Him lowered than the angels but when transformation occurred the body was raised in power and glory.

Lemme stop there to press your mumu number more!

It is sown a physical body and raised a spiritual body. Lie small small sir.

Was it not what you sow that you'll reap?

Jesus cannot Have Divine nature dwelling in him and still lower than angels. That logic means he is still lower than. Angels to now

GIVE US THE MEANING OF THEIOTES first at least people will decide that after they know the meaning of the word that was used their.

You said out of your selfish interest you disagree with DIVINE NATURE.

God created his intelligent creations in his image. So Jesus is not an exception ...

Another fraud interpretation...
Jesus was not CREATED as the image of God but THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD

Do you see the difference?

Olodo rabata

That is not the same as Image of the heavenly one restricted to Heaven !!!

But the image of Adam makes us having human nature and the image of heavenly one laws them having his nature then BOOM image of God didn't make man having God nature!

Barristter07:
Proving Christ was created .
Image of God applies to Christ and other creations because God created them with ability to display his characters e.g Justice, love

But image of Adam means HUMAN nature

Lair.....Speaking from all angles of his mouth.

Image of the heavenly one is RESTRICTED TO THOSE IN HEAVEN , Yes ?

And Man has image of God which is having the nature of God.

What is born of the Spirit is what ? Is what ? Is what I need an answer ?


( IS Spirit here means = is Holy spirit, have spirit or breath of life , have the hope of becoming spirit being. Pick 1)

Now attacking strawman....
What of spiritual? because I can see where your myopic mind limited the meaning to.

Firstly, If all Christians must be born of spirit with the hope of becoming Spirit beings , Those human beings enjoying everlasting life on earth are not Christians

Secondly, Group 1 means all those given everlasting life on earth for putting faith in Christ are all Children of the BONDWOMAN . ? Emusan Olodo !!!

Shame suppose catch u

What Apostle Paul says in those verses is to group people into two.

Firstly, CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN who are born of the FLESH and the Children of the FREEWOMAN who are born of the SPIRIT.

secondly, ALL CHRISTIANS are to be BORN BY THE SPIRIT

Olodo....jatijati

Image of the heavenly one is not for earthly beings , Yea ?

Image of God makes man have the Nature of God, yeah!

Barristter07:
When he said it is finished. That render that human body a sacrifice for sin, not meant to be taken back.

So was the human nature tainted with sin before He said IT IS FINISHED?

SO if Jesus didn't take the human nature back, what did the Father resurrect?

NOTE:
The Divine nature mysteriously lost along the line then HUMAN Being appear.

Also, human HAS NOTHING LEFT in them after death according to your doctrine.

So what was resurrected from Christ?

Divinity is one meaning

Divinity refers to quality of being divine

Quality means an attribute possessed by someone.

So when it says Divine Quality ... It refers to his having Godly attributes or characters.

I do not subscribe to meanings like Divine Nature , Or Godhead

Everyone can see the @color part of your deception!

But you first lied that NATURE was not there....

Now Does THEIOTES mean Divine Nature?

So because PERSONALLY you don't subscribe to the meaning of DIVINE NATURE or GODHEAD the verse should be CHANGE to suit your selfish desire....now see how your father the devil is truly manifesting in you.

The verse clearly says that "DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN BODILY"

Why still on the matter I'm still waiting for you to tell us WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT DIVINE NATURE HE HAS BEFORE BECOMING MAN.

He can't be God and be lower than angels

He became MAN don't forget.

And I asked : In fact I bookmarked the above , Is Jesus not still lower than angel since by virtue of hypostatic union he is still adding another nature ??

Jesus is still Human in heaven BUT NOT WITH THE HUMAN NATURE HE WAS BORN WITH....before you misunderstand this point, this is what I meant.

The human nature He was born with was used to take away sin after that the corruptible flesh PUT ON incorruptible which is raised in power. This is precedence Christ set for All CHRISTIANS.

Its clear you were wrong that he possess Divine nature of Form , for he could not have Been lower than angels with such nature in him.

Give us the meaning of THEIOTES from any source

Then we'll know what DWELL in that BODILY

Why are you afraiding of posting the meaning here?

It's evident that your lie has been exposed.

Again my very point you're still ignoring is that

JESUS HIMSELF IS THE VARY IMAGE OF GOD

Barristter07:
It was treated as one.

At what point?

Liar .. What dwells in you is not emptied, And you can't have it in you and still be lower than angels.

So going by your logic he was still lower than angels since he still have two natures ?

The image of the divine one us for those who are heavenly !!! Refers to nature not your erroneous interpretation.

Like the heavenly one, so are those of heaven. Isn't that clear enough that this is not reffering to been made in the image of God ?

I know u are just grabbing straws

Address this my point because that's how you normally dodge post in other to render it meaningless.

This was my last post you stylishly boycotted.

"Nature does not appear but DIVINE QUALITY explain it better" just because your deluded organization twisted it to be so for the reason that it's evident that something was said TO BE DWELLING IN THE BODY OF CHRIST but using DIVINE NATURE there will put sand to their garri of the lie that nothing lives there.

Just like I said your deluded brother posted a screenshot which was boldly written THEIOTES = Divine Nature,.....Divinity.

But you can still openly lie...

Now to get it better just as you always do with other Greek word used in the new Testament by using Coincide Transliteration, Greek Lexical,

Kindly provide us from any source the meaning of "THEIOTES"

Failure to do this means end of discussion.

He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature

Col 2:9 made it clear that DWELL in BODILY

Besides, you haven't told us what happened to the Divine Nature Jesus dropped.

Failure to address this will bring end to this discussion.

Barristter07:
One is Restricted to Heavenly ones , remember ?

So not the same.

Is man not CREATED in the IMAGE OF GOD that's the center of the point.

Is Christ NOT THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD

These are the questions you're still dodging.

This particular image is restricted to HEAVENLY ONES , So I think you should listen to the bell more

But the core POINT is on the "IMAGE OF.." it seems you don't get it.

*Bearing the IMAGE of the dust makes you having human nature, WHICH YOU SAID YES!
*Bearing the IMAGE of the heavenly one makes you having the heavenly one NATURE, WHICH YOU SAID YES!
*BUT BEARING the IMAGE OF God, doesn't mean HAVING THE NATURE OF GOD!

Speaking from all angles of his mouth.

Ole..

You need to be careful because it seems that Devil is using you to contradict scripture. What is born of spirit IS SPIRIT !!!

But the Devil himself wrote New World Translation.

And what is Born of the FLESH IS FLESH

But we see humans living forever on earth ,
WHICH MEANS THEY ARE NOT OF THE BOND SERVANT to have gotten everlasting life .... Expose you perfectly. This means they are not born of the spirit . yet are in the image of God. But not spirits they can't go to heaven, which is for whom the image of The heavenly one or his nature is Restricted

The CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN are born of the flesh but ALL CHILDREN OF THE FREEWOMAN WERE BORN OF THE SPIRIT which means you don't understand what it means to be BORN of THE SPIRIT

Scripture always places FLESH and SPIRIT in contrast that's why Jesus said "it's the SPIRIT that quickeneth, the FLESH profiteth nothing" and many such verses in the scripture.

And I've also noticed that you didn't get the point of that Galatians 4, again what Gal 4 means is that:

ALL CHRISTIANS must be born of the spirit which is why we were classified under ISAAC whose mother WAS THE FREEWOMAN

So In Galatians 4 there are ONLY TWO GROUPS the whole people were placed.

1. The group are those who belong to the BONDWOMAN and are born by the FLESH

2. The second group are those who belong to the FREEWOMAN and are BORN by the SPIRIT.

That verse didn't say image of God. Because it knows everyone good or bad have that.

Which verse?

Like the earthly one , so are those who are earthly. Meaning they are not divine beings. So get your facts right.

Now you've shifted away from the IMAGE

But why Jesus was talking He said unto them, "Ye are from beneath (Earth), I am from above(Heaven): ye are of this world (earthly); I am NOT of this world"

CANTICLES:
Emusan have no single sense , Image of God = God divine nature . So wicked men also have God divine nature since they are in the image of God ? Who will help this child ?

I can see your ignorance keep alarming.

Since your deluded brother was equating every HAVING THE IMAGE OF SOMETHING to mean NATURE OF THAT THING.

Then since man was created with the Image of God, man should have the Nature of God also.

Get point of the discussion and stop being kangaroo

CANTICLES:

As the one was made of dust, so also are those of the earth; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those of heaven. - 1Cor 15:48

If you are correct this means created in the image of God and not nature, why is it restricted to those in heaven ??

Mr jumper hide and seek man

Go back to your first post and answer me

When the Father picked up Jesus Divine Nature, what did he do with it?

Barristter07:
Yes.
Yes

Yes .

The last can't be yes if the two above can be yes!

The same measure must be applied to them all.

Because the heavenly nature of Jesus is for those who are heavenly


Open your eyes
" So are those who are HEAVENLY " does that ring a bell ?

Was man not CREATED with the IMAGE OF GOD?

Does it ring a bell to your deaf ears?

Is Christ not the VERY IMAGE OF GOD?

Are the humans on earth enjoying everlasting life at Revelation 21:3 of the bond woman ?

You no just grab anything

What is born of spirit is SPIRIT . not human

That point destroy your postulation

It's from the scripture not my postulation.

The CHILDREN OF BONDWOMAN are the one BORN OF THE FLESH

Why ALL CHRISTIANS are the children of the FREEWOMAN born of the SPIRIT, so since you and your brothers are all going to be born of the FLESH then you people belong to the BONDWOMAN CHILDREN which is true anyways because Devil is the father of all liar.

Now will these ones living forever on earth not be in Gods image?

Clearly different from image of the heavenly one which belong to those who are heavenly.

So if the one living on earth forever will be in Image of God then their Nature must supersede that of Christ since Jesus is lesser than God according to you.

This is the equation:
*Image of the heavenly one (Jesus) = Jesus divine nature.
*Image of God = God Divine nature

DIVINE nature is for those who are heavenly , Those on earth exist in human nature

But man was created with IMAGE OF GOD..

Are you not the one who equate BEARING IMAGE OF SOMETHING TO MEAN HAVING THE NATURE OF THAT THING?

This is it let me remind!
*Bearing the earthly/DUST IMAGE makes man having human nature
*Bearing the IMAGE of the heavenly one makes them having THE NATURE of the heavenly one.
*Now since man is CREATED IN THE IMAGE of God then man must have THE VERY NATURE of God.

Barristter07:
That assumption was strictly made by you.

A very dull one I must say

1 Corinthuanst 15:48 - " As the one was made of dust, so also are those of the earth; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those of heaven.
"

Heavenly divine nature belong to those who are of heaven.

You can live forever on earth and have the image of God. But not the divine nature of the heavenly one.

And to have image of God is to have divine nature since having image of the heavenly one means to have divine nature.

"As the one was made of dust, so also are those of the earth; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those of heaven.

Everyone on earth are not in the likeness of the heavenly nature. FACT

You know what really funny about you is how you speak from two sides of your mouth and still want everyone to agree with you.

You described image of God as having God's quality or attributes but want can't do the same for having the image of the heavenly one.

But the truth is man have image of God which you can't deny and Christ Himself is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Read those scriptures above. Your ignorance is Legendary . Man on earth doesnt have the heavenly divine nature.

Stop giving another person your title
Everyone knows Jws are the most ignorant and deluded persons.

Man has the IMAGE of the dust which makes him to have human nature but the same man has IMAGE OF GOD but can't have DIVINE NATURE.


Continue with your delusion

Barristter07:
God made him sin , treated him at the point of his death as if he was a sinner deserving of death

So you agree that it was at the POINT of His death that He was made to be sin for us.

So was the human nature tainted with sin?

I repeat Nature didn't appear in that verse . While its true many translated it as Divine nature or Godhead . Divine qualities explain it better. Having Godly qualities to the full , such as the Chrisfians were said to have the fullness of God. This doesn't mean they are God or divine but it exhibiting his qualities.

what is dwelling in You is not emptied!!!

Beside, How could he be lower than angels when Gods nature still dwell in that same body ?


I think you need a rethink

Nature does not appear but DIVINE QUALITY explain it better just because your deluded organization twisted it to be so for the reason that it's evident that something was said TO BE DWELLING IN THE BODY OF CHRIST but using DIVINE NATURE there will put sans to their garri of the lie that nothing lives there.

Just like I said your deluded brother posted a screenshot which was boldly written THEIOTES = Divine Nature,.....Divinity.

But you can still openly lie...



No to get it better just as you always do with other Greek word used in the new Testament by using Coincide Transliteration, Greek Lexical,

Kindly provide us from any source the meaning of THEIOTES

Failure to do this means end of discussion.

He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature

Col 2:9 made it clear that DWELL in BODILY

Besides, you haven't told us what happened to the Divine Nature Jesus dropped.

Image of the heavenly one is for those who are heavenly . Anyone person on earth is in the image of God.

And to have image of God means you have divine nature since to have the image of the heavenly one means to have divine nature.

Barristter07:
Like the heavenly one , SO ARE THOSE WHO ARE HEAVENLY ?? Do you read this ?

Like the earthly one means human nature
Like the heavenly one means divine nature
But of a sudden, having the image of God which is also and heavenly one must mean different thing.

Your delusion never do!

It refers to the Divine nature Jesus possess which this persons will have

JESUS IS THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD....
So how does live on earth WITHOUT DIVINE NATURE?

POWERFUL REBUTTAL: Many will live forever on earth , yet are in the image of God . does that not tell you there is a difference ?

Then man being created in the Image of God should mean they already have DIVINE NATURE.

Barristter07:
you agree with the highlighted ?

I didn't see any highlight but I sense you want to use that to boycott my questions but I won't allow that, here are my questions again:

You're still dodging my question.
At what point he was made to be sin:
1. Through His lifetimes till the moment He was about to be crucified?
2. As He was hung on the Cross

It never means DIVINE NATURE . Nature wasn't there . You can bury your head in shame already. Liar

Verse 10 says the same dwell in Christians . does that mean they are a part of trinity and are not born with sin ?

When you supposed to bury your dump skull in deep shit of shame you're still here making mouth.

Even your deluded brother posted a picture of the meaning of Theiotes which is Divine NATURE and even tag you but you're still here disgracing yourself

The problem you're having is inability to deliver yourself from the robotic nature watchtower has put you into.

My point in quoting Colossians is to prove to you that SOMETHING ACTUALLY DWELLS IN THAT HUMAN BODY OF CREATED

Not the lies you've been peddling here from
*Emptied to dropped to pick up bla bla

Substance meaning
the real physical matter of which a person or thing consists and which has a tangible, solid presence.

I don't know where you left your dull brain before making this statement.

So DIVINE NATURE TO YOU is what being describing here. Olodo....even from your own definition you can still be confused!

Once again, what happened to that DIVINE NATURE Jesus dropped before picking up the human nature?

Colossians 2 :9 proves beyond reasonable doubt that THE GODHEAD was DWELL IN BODILY

But you said no, nothing dwell in the BODY

He no longer was consisting of the divine nature , but changed to an human nature making him a baby whose life started in the womb.

So what happened to that DIVINE NATURE

Can DIVINE NATURE DIE?

These are the questions you keep perambulating about without given a straight answer because you know it'll expose you the more.

Image of the heavenly one is not meant for humans .. To show you its different . did you read " Like the heavenly one, so are those who are heavenly " in your Bible ?

BUT MAN was created in the Image of God

and Jesus is THE VERY image of God and you're still saying DIVINE NATURE was not in Jesus on earth.

Olodo osi

Barristter07:
Like the heavenly one, so are those who are heavenly . it state it clearly that image of the heavenly one belongs to those who will be in heaven.

This is different from image of God available to earthly humans. But the nature of the heavenly one , Jesus Christ

This is my point:
*Bearing the image of the heavenly one is DIVINE NATURE
*Bearing the image of the earthly is human nature
*But bearing the image of God isn't DIVINE NATURE

at least people can boldly see your two sided mouth.

I even added JESUS IS THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD but you blocked your dull brain as if you never see such from my lost.

This is an ALLEGORY . clear enough.

John 3:6 added one additional point , what is born of spirit IS SPIRIT !!!

The allegory is to bring out the fact that the CHILDREN OF THE BONDWOMAN ARE BORN AFTER FLESH while the CHILDREN of the free WOMAN ARE BORN AFTER SPIRIT which is for ALL CHRISTIANS...

Which is the point Jesus made in John 3:6 for you to be a Christian you must be born again which is by WATER AND SPIRIT.

When means such ones will become powerful spirit beings , This does not apply to all Christians . Many will live forever as humans ( Rev 21:3)

Born of flesh is for the BONDWOMAN

Are you one of the BONDWOMAN children.

Apostle Paul made it clear that ALL CHRISTIANS ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FREEWOMAN WHO ARE BORN AFTER THE SPIRIT.

If so, it exposes you more : 1Corinrlthians 15:47-49 state clearly that the image of the heavenly one belongs to those who are heavenly , are those humans living forever on earth Not in the image of God ? Clearly there is a difference.

Man was created in IMAGE OF GOD FOR, this means MAN HAS DIVINE NATURE

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD

Janosky:
Nature= Quality... You can't fault it ;

Colossians1:19, divine quality is Yahweh's gift to Jesus, do you agree?

Do you agree divine nature/quality dwells BODILY in Christ followers? Colossians 2:10. John 1:16.
Ephesians 3:19

See this shameless deluded person....keep jumping up and down like a lost soul.

So Where was DIVINE QUALITY that your demonic organization used came from?

If Theiotes = Divine Nature,..., Divinity

Lastly, do you then agree that DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN Christ in BODILY?

I'm still waiting for the answer where DIVINE QUALITY appear in your attached pix

Barristter07:

Image of God simply means God create man with his fine qualities ... Ability to show love , justice , compassion , etc.

It didn't mean Nature , dont be silly

I guess in your sense , God has breast or manhood ?


You need to grow up

Ole.....

Now image of God means God created man with FINE QUALITIES but bearing IMAGE OF HEAVENLY MEANS HAVING DIVINE NATURE...

Nowhere for you to hide.

*Bearing the image of the heavenly one is DIVINE NATURE
*Bearing the image of the earthly is human nature
*But bearing the image of God isn't DIVINE NATURE

You must have been more silly to thing such

Janosky:
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Woman.
Divine nature passed down from God to Christ to Man to Woman, in that sequence, Emusan do you agree?

According to the verse you quoted:

Women are not IMAGE OF GOD and The Glory of God

Do you agree with that?

Olodo

Janosky:
Emusan Confused Wayo man with JUNK .....

Godhead is a FRAUD coined by Trinitarians, una wayo , Artful FORGERS..

Greek Theiotēs= divine nature., divinity.

5 STAR to the NWT....

cc: Barrister07

See this shameless deluded person....keep jumping up and down like a lost soul.

So Where was DIVINE QUALITY that your demonic organization used came from? If Theiotes = Divine Nature,..., Divinity

Again but your deluded brother said it's not "NATURE" but see how you greatly disgraced him.

I so much like the way you people are disgracing yourself thank God you copy him.

Lastly, do you then agree that DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN Christ in BODILY?

Janosky:
1 Corinthians 11:7
7 A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.

Does Emusan see the great divide?
Image of God and the glory of God are not the same ooooo

According to this verse then women were not THE IMAGE OF GOD and the Glory of God

If you disagree with this then only you'll understand what the verse is addressing

Barristter07:
Christ himself knew no sin until that
The moment he was made sin.

You're still dodging my question.

At what point he was made to be sin:
1. Through His lifetimes till the moment He was about to be crucified?
2. As He was hung on the Cross

It never mention " Nature "

Verse 10 says they have the same Fullness.

Eph 3:19 that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God." ...

Does this mean they are God?

Lying liar...
The Geek word in Col 2:9 which even your demonic organization rendered "Divine Quality" is;

theotes
Divinity, Godhead

What even make it more interesting is when it says "DWELLETH all the fullness of the GODHEAD in BODILY

It means something was DWELLING IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.

Now, the question is, was this the same body which "ALL THE FULLNESS OF GODHEAD DWELL" that was contaminated with SIN?

As you've been claiming since morning

Empty meaning

To lack substance .

Which is the Divine nature .

So what happened to that DIVINE NATURE since DIVINE NATURE can't DIE?

Which substance did the DIVINE NATURE lack

You have move from emptied to drop to CHANGE now LACK SUBSTANCE

Even your deluded brother said the FATHER pick it up.

And after your great delusions you ask me to ask the Father what he did with the DIVINE NATURE of Christ.

But one thing is certain, you know DIVINE NATURE can't die but mysteriously someone who is HAVING A DIVINE NATURE in one way or the other suddenly BECOME A FULL HUMAN and the DIVINE NATURE can't be traced to anywhere.

I salute your ignorance Mr

I dont get your point , are humans not in the image of God ? So they are God.

Human is created in the Image of God should mean they are already HAVING DIVINE NATURE since;

*Bearing the image of the heavenly one mean having the DIVINE NATURE
*Bearing the image of the earthly means having human nature
*So bearing the image of God should also means having the NATURE of God

At least you can't deny that man is created in the Image of God.

Barristter07:
Image of God is not divine nature. So many will live forever on earth yet they are in the image of God

*Bearing the image of the heavenly one is DIVINE NATURE
*Bearing the image of the earthly is human nature
*But bearing the image of God isn't DIVINE NATURE
at least people can boldly see your two sided mouth.

So what is the meaning of IMAGE OF GOD

As the heavenly one, so are those who are heavenly ... The image here is nature.

But the Image of God man was created iwith sn't NATURE

Liar like your father the devil.

What will reveal your low thinking comes from the fact that : Does that mean those in heaven alone are in the image of God ? The image of Jesus mention here is his heavenly nature.


Only a Fraud relates it to been in the image of God.

I said Jesus is THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD, what do you say about that?

Lying liar.

Barristter07:
This ones are not in the image of the heavenly one. His nature.

But they are in the image of God.

So dont muddle matters

The verse you quoted said "Just as we have bear the image of the one from dust, ( Human nature) We shall bear the image of the heavenly one ( Divine nature )"

Now, human are created in the IMAGE OF GOD doesn't that mean Human are already possessed DIVINE NATURE?

The image here is even that of God which is even higher than that of Christ if we should go with your logic.

What is born of spirit is not human but Spirit. Get sense ... That some humans will live forever on earth as image of God yet are not in the image of The heavenly one should let you know being in the image of the heavenly one refers to the Divine nature.

You people always confirm that you lack scriptural knowledge.

I've told you several that John 3:6 wasn't separated people into two groups of living in heaven and earth as your organization erroneously teaching but about our human nature (flesh) must be regenerated by the Holy Spirit.

This is the fact Apostle Paul reiterates in Galatians 4:23-31 which greatly exposed your ignorance about Jesus statement and to shows that your demonic organization has deceived you people.

I'll just point out the fact in those verses:

[b]23 classified the bondwoman son who was born after the FLESH and the son born by the freewoman who is after the promise

24 Said this was an ALLEGORY for these are the TWO CONVENATS

25 puts the bondwoman as Sinai in Arabia which is now in bondage under Jerusalem

26 Puts Jerusalem as from ABOVE and FREE which is now THE MOTHER OF US ALL

27 makes a reference to Isaiah

28 then says BRETHREN (a term used for all CHRISTIANS) as Isaac was, are the CHILDREN of the promise
NOTE: The plural to switch from Isaac to Children which includes ALL CHRISTIANS

29 Makes the matter worse for you by saying "He that was born after the FLESH persecuted Him that was BORN after the SPIRIT"
Which means ALL CHRISTIANS must be born by the Spirit

30 Reference to old testament

31 even killed your ignorance finally by saying "SO BRETHREN (ALL CHRISTIANS) we are NOT CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN (because children of the BONDWOMAN were born after FLESH) but of the FREE (because freewoman children were born after the SPIRIT)."[/b]

So ignorantly taking John 3:6 "who is born of the flesh is flesh" to mean Children of God will still be born by the flesh shows how you lack scriptural knowledge.

Barristter07:
Verse 48 should have saved you from this silly u typed up there

" As the one made of dust is, so those made of dust are [ all share the same human Nature ] , and as the heavenly one is, SO THOSE WHO ARE HEAVENLY ONE ALSO [ Divine nature ] "

It says this image of the heavenly one is for those who are Heavenly.

This is not for humans living on earth . so clearly it wasn't a reference to been made in Gods image. But Nature.

Just see the way you're going back and forth...

1. Image of God is divine nature
2. But man was created in image of God doesn't mean having DIVINE NATURE

I said Jesus is THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

If bearing earthly image makes us Human which is after Adam why Christ who is the very IMAGE OF GOD not God?

One of the seven wonders of deluded JWs will change the meaning, just watch!

Barristter07:
" Then I heard a loud voice from the throne: Look, God's dwelling is with HUMANITY , and he will live with them. They will be his peoples, and God himself will be with them and will be their God. " Revelation 21:3

Many will live forever on earth as humans. U saw humanity , dont you ?

But for those born of the spirit , They will have the DIVINE NATURE , GODS NATURE, GODS VERY FORM. In heaven ... Like the heavenly one, so are those who are heavenly. Question is : Does that mean they are Equal to God for the fact they will exist in heaven in GODS form ??

Did I say there won't be human on earth!

The point is, human born of flesh are still in sinful nature until regeneration of the body BY THE SPIRIT of God which is BORN OF THE SPIRIT took place.

That's what that verse is talking about