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As the one was made of dust, so also are those of the earth; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those of heaven. - 1Cor 15:48

If you are correct this means created in the image of God and not nature, why is it restricted to those in heaven ??

Mr jumper hide and seek man

Go back to your first post and answer me

When the Father picked up Jesus Divine Nature, what did he do with it?

Barristter07:
Yes.
Yes

Yes .

The last can't be yes if the two above can be yes!

The same measure must be applied to them all.

Because the heavenly nature of Jesus is for those who are heavenly


Open your eyes
" So are those who are HEAVENLY " does that ring a bell ?

Was man not CREATED with the IMAGE OF GOD?

Does it ring a bell to your deaf ears?

Is Christ not the VERY IMAGE OF GOD?

Are the humans on earth enjoying everlasting life at Revelation 21:3 of the bond woman ?

You no just grab anything

What is born of spirit is SPIRIT . not human

That point destroy your postulation

It's from the scripture not my postulation.

The CHILDREN OF BONDWOMAN are the one BORN OF THE FLESH

Why ALL CHRISTIANS are the children of the FREEWOMAN born of the SPIRIT, so since you and your brothers are all going to be born of the FLESH then you people belong to the BONDWOMAN CHILDREN which is true anyways because Devil is the father of all liar.

Now will these ones living forever on earth not be in Gods image?

Clearly different from image of the heavenly one which belong to those who are heavenly.

So if the one living on earth forever will be in Image of God then their Nature must supersede that of Christ since Jesus is lesser than God according to you.

This is the equation:
*Image of the heavenly one (Jesus) = Jesus divine nature.
*Image of God = God Divine nature

DIVINE nature is for those who are heavenly , Those on earth exist in human nature

But man was created with IMAGE OF GOD..

Are you not the one who equate BEARING IMAGE OF SOMETHING TO MEAN HAVING THE NATURE OF THAT THING?

This is it let me remind!
*Bearing the earthly/DUST IMAGE makes man having human nature
*Bearing the IMAGE of the heavenly one makes them having THE NATURE of the heavenly one.
*Now since man is CREATED IN THE IMAGE of God then man must have THE VERY NATURE of God.

Barristter07:
That assumption was strictly made by you.

A very dull one I must say

1 Corinthuanst 15:48 - " As the one was made of dust, so also are those of the earth; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those of heaven.
"

Heavenly divine nature belong to those who are of heaven.

You can live forever on earth and have the image of God. But not the divine nature of the heavenly one.

And to have image of God is to have divine nature since having image of the heavenly one means to have divine nature.

"As the one was made of dust, so also are those of the earth; and as is the heavenly one, so also are those of heaven.

Everyone on earth are not in the likeness of the heavenly nature. FACT

You know what really funny about you is how you speak from two sides of your mouth and still want everyone to agree with you.

You described image of God as having God's quality or attributes but want can't do the same for having the image of the heavenly one.

But the truth is man have image of God which you can't deny and Christ Himself is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

Read those scriptures above. Your ignorance is Legendary . Man on earth doesnt have the heavenly divine nature.

Stop giving another person your title
Everyone knows Jws are the most ignorant and deluded persons.

Man has the IMAGE of the dust which makes him to have human nature but the same man has IMAGE OF GOD but can't have DIVINE NATURE.


Continue with your delusion

Barristter07:
God made him sin , treated him at the point of his death as if he was a sinner deserving of death

So you agree that it was at the POINT of His death that He was made to be sin for us.

So was the human nature tainted with sin?

I repeat Nature didn't appear in that verse . While its true many translated it as Divine nature or Godhead . Divine qualities explain it better. Having Godly qualities to the full , such as the Chrisfians were said to have the fullness of God. This doesn't mean they are God or divine but it exhibiting his qualities.

what is dwelling in You is not emptied!!!

Beside, How could he be lower than angels when Gods nature still dwell in that same body ?


I think you need a rethink

Nature does not appear but DIVINE QUALITY explain it better just because your deluded organization twisted it to be so for the reason that it's evident that something was said TO BE DWELLING IN THE BODY OF CHRIST but using DIVINE NATURE there will put sans to their garri of the lie that nothing lives there.

Just like I said your deluded brother posted a screenshot which was boldly written THEIOTES = Divine Nature,.....Divinity.

But you can still openly lie...



No to get it better just as you always do with other Greek word used in the new Testament by using Coincide Transliteration, Greek Lexical,

Kindly provide us from any source the meaning of THEIOTES

Failure to do this means end of discussion.

He was lower than the angels by adding another nature to His own nature

Col 2:9 made it clear that DWELL in BODILY

Besides, you haven't told us what happened to the Divine Nature Jesus dropped.

Image of the heavenly one is for those who are heavenly . Anyone person on earth is in the image of God.

And to have image of God means you have divine nature since to have the image of the heavenly one means to have divine nature.

Barristter07:
Like the heavenly one , SO ARE THOSE WHO ARE HEAVENLY ?? Do you read this ?

Like the earthly one means human nature
Like the heavenly one means divine nature
But of a sudden, having the image of God which is also and heavenly one must mean different thing.

Your delusion never do!

It refers to the Divine nature Jesus possess which this persons will have

JESUS IS THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD....
So how does live on earth WITHOUT DIVINE NATURE?

POWERFUL REBUTTAL: Many will live forever on earth , yet are in the image of God . does that not tell you there is a difference ?

Then man being created in the Image of God should mean they already have DIVINE NATURE.

Barristter07:
you agree with the highlighted ?

I didn't see any highlight but I sense you want to use that to boycott my questions but I won't allow that, here are my questions again:

You're still dodging my question.
At what point he was made to be sin:
1. Through His lifetimes till the moment He was about to be crucified?
2. As He was hung on the Cross

It never means DIVINE NATURE . Nature wasn't there . You can bury your head in shame already. Liar

Verse 10 says the same dwell in Christians . does that mean they are a part of trinity and are not born with sin ?

When you supposed to bury your dump skull in deep shit of shame you're still here making mouth.

Even your deluded brother posted a picture of the meaning of Theiotes which is Divine NATURE and even tag you but you're still here disgracing yourself

The problem you're having is inability to deliver yourself from the robotic nature watchtower has put you into.

My point in quoting Colossians is to prove to you that SOMETHING ACTUALLY DWELLS IN THAT HUMAN BODY OF CREATED

Not the lies you've been peddling here from
*Emptied to dropped to pick up bla bla

Substance meaning
the real physical matter of which a person or thing consists and which has a tangible, solid presence.

I don't know where you left your dull brain before making this statement.

So DIVINE NATURE TO YOU is what being describing here. Olodo....even from your own definition you can still be confused!

Once again, what happened to that DIVINE NATURE Jesus dropped before picking up the human nature?

Colossians 2 :9 proves beyond reasonable doubt that THE GODHEAD was DWELL IN BODILY

But you said no, nothing dwell in the BODY

He no longer was consisting of the divine nature , but changed to an human nature making him a baby whose life started in the womb.

So what happened to that DIVINE NATURE

Can DIVINE NATURE DIE?

These are the questions you keep perambulating about without given a straight answer because you know it'll expose you the more.

Image of the heavenly one is not meant for humans .. To show you its different . did you read " Like the heavenly one, so are those who are heavenly " in your Bible ?

BUT MAN was created in the Image of God

and Jesus is THE VERY image of God and you're still saying DIVINE NATURE was not in Jesus on earth.

Olodo osi

Barristter07:
Like the heavenly one, so are those who are heavenly . it state it clearly that image of the heavenly one belongs to those who will be in heaven.

This is different from image of God available to earthly humans. But the nature of the heavenly one , Jesus Christ

This is my point:
*Bearing the image of the heavenly one is DIVINE NATURE
*Bearing the image of the earthly is human nature
*But bearing the image of God isn't DIVINE NATURE

at least people can boldly see your two sided mouth.

I even added JESUS IS THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD but you blocked your dull brain as if you never see such from my lost.

This is an ALLEGORY . clear enough.

John 3:6 added one additional point , what is born of spirit IS SPIRIT !!!

The allegory is to bring out the fact that the CHILDREN OF THE BONDWOMAN ARE BORN AFTER FLESH while the CHILDREN of the free WOMAN ARE BORN AFTER SPIRIT which is for ALL CHRISTIANS...

Which is the point Jesus made in John 3:6 for you to be a Christian you must be born again which is by WATER AND SPIRIT.

When means such ones will become powerful spirit beings , This does not apply to all Christians . Many will live forever as humans ( Rev 21:3)

Born of flesh is for the BONDWOMAN

Are you one of the BONDWOMAN children.

Apostle Paul made it clear that ALL CHRISTIANS ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE FREEWOMAN WHO ARE BORN AFTER THE SPIRIT.

If so, it exposes you more : 1Corinrlthians 15:47-49 state clearly that the image of the heavenly one belongs to those who are heavenly , are those humans living forever on earth Not in the image of God ? Clearly there is a difference.

Man was created in IMAGE OF GOD FOR, this means MAN HAS DIVINE NATURE

Jesus is the VERY IMAGE OF GOD

Janosky:
Nature= Quality... You can't fault it ;

Colossians1:19, divine quality is Yahweh's gift to Jesus, do you agree?

Do you agree divine nature/quality dwells BODILY in Christ followers? Colossians 2:10. John 1:16.
Ephesians 3:19

See this shameless deluded person....keep jumping up and down like a lost soul.

So Where was DIVINE QUALITY that your demonic organization used came from?

If Theiotes = Divine Nature,..., Divinity

Lastly, do you then agree that DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN Christ in BODILY?

I'm still waiting for the answer where DIVINE QUALITY appear in your attached pix

Barristter07:

Image of God simply means God create man with his fine qualities ... Ability to show love , justice , compassion , etc.

It didn't mean Nature , dont be silly

I guess in your sense , God has breast or manhood ?


You need to grow up

Ole.....

Now image of God means God created man with FINE QUALITIES but bearing IMAGE OF HEAVENLY MEANS HAVING DIVINE NATURE...

Nowhere for you to hide.

*Bearing the image of the heavenly one is DIVINE NATURE
*Bearing the image of the earthly is human nature
*But bearing the image of God isn't DIVINE NATURE

You must have been more silly to thing such

Janosky:
God
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Christ
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Woman.
Divine nature passed down from God to Christ to Man to Woman, in that sequence, Emusan do you agree?

According to the verse you quoted:

Women are not IMAGE OF GOD and The Glory of God

Do you agree with that?

Olodo

Janosky:
Emusan Confused Wayo man with JUNK .....

Godhead is a FRAUD coined by Trinitarians, una wayo , Artful FORGERS..

Greek Theiotēs= divine nature., divinity.

5 STAR to the NWT....

cc: Barrister07

See this shameless deluded person....keep jumping up and down like a lost soul.

So Where was DIVINE QUALITY that your demonic organization used came from? If Theiotes = Divine Nature,..., Divinity

Again but your deluded brother said it's not "NATURE" but see how you greatly disgraced him.

I so much like the way you people are disgracing yourself thank God you copy him.

Lastly, do you then agree that DIVINE NATURE DWELL IN Christ in BODILY?

Janosky:
1 Corinthians 11:7
7 A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.

Does Emusan see the great divide?
Image of God and the glory of God are not the same ooooo

According to this verse then women were not THE IMAGE OF GOD and the Glory of God

If you disagree with this then only you'll understand what the verse is addressing

Barristter07:
Christ himself knew no sin until that
The moment he was made sin.

You're still dodging my question.

At what point he was made to be sin:
1. Through His lifetimes till the moment He was about to be crucified?
2. As He was hung on the Cross

It never mention " Nature "

Verse 10 says they have the same Fullness.

Eph 3:19 that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God." ...

Does this mean they are God?

Lying liar...
The Geek word in Col 2:9 which even your demonic organization rendered "Divine Quality" is;

theotes
Divinity, Godhead

What even make it more interesting is when it says "DWELLETH all the fullness of the GODHEAD in BODILY

It means something was DWELLING IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.

Now, the question is, was this the same body which "ALL THE FULLNESS OF GODHEAD DWELL" that was contaminated with SIN?

As you've been claiming since morning

Empty meaning

To lack substance .

Which is the Divine nature .

So what happened to that DIVINE NATURE since DIVINE NATURE can't DIE?

Which substance did the DIVINE NATURE lack

You have move from emptied to drop to CHANGE now LACK SUBSTANCE

Even your deluded brother said the FATHER pick it up.

And after your great delusions you ask me to ask the Father what he did with the DIVINE NATURE of Christ.

But one thing is certain, you know DIVINE NATURE can't die but mysteriously someone who is HAVING A DIVINE NATURE in one way or the other suddenly BECOME A FULL HUMAN and the DIVINE NATURE can't be traced to anywhere.

I salute your ignorance Mr

I dont get your point , are humans not in the image of God ? So they are God.

Human is created in the Image of God should mean they are already HAVING DIVINE NATURE since;

*Bearing the image of the heavenly one mean having the DIVINE NATURE
*Bearing the image of the earthly means having human nature
*So bearing the image of God should also means having the NATURE of God

At least you can't deny that man is created in the Image of God.

Barristter07:
Image of God is not divine nature. So many will live forever on earth yet they are in the image of God

*Bearing the image of the heavenly one is DIVINE NATURE
*Bearing the image of the earthly is human nature
*But bearing the image of God isn't DIVINE NATURE
at least people can boldly see your two sided mouth.

So what is the meaning of IMAGE OF GOD

As the heavenly one, so are those who are heavenly ... The image here is nature.

But the Image of God man was created iwith sn't NATURE

Liar like your father the devil.

What will reveal your low thinking comes from the fact that : Does that mean those in heaven alone are in the image of God ? The image of Jesus mention here is his heavenly nature.


Only a Fraud relates it to been in the image of God.

I said Jesus is THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD, what do you say about that?

Lying liar.

Barristter07:
This ones are not in the image of the heavenly one. His nature.

But they are in the image of God.

So dont muddle matters

The verse you quoted said "Just as we have bear the image of the one from dust, ( Human nature) We shall bear the image of the heavenly one ( Divine nature )"

Now, human are created in the IMAGE OF GOD doesn't that mean Human are already possessed DIVINE NATURE?

The image here is even that of God which is even higher than that of Christ if we should go with your logic.

What is born of spirit is not human but Spirit. Get sense ... That some humans will live forever on earth as image of God yet are not in the image of The heavenly one should let you know being in the image of the heavenly one refers to the Divine nature.

You people always confirm that you lack scriptural knowledge.

I've told you several that John 3:6 wasn't separated people into two groups of living in heaven and earth as your organization erroneously teaching but about our human nature (flesh) must be regenerated by the Holy Spirit.

This is the fact Apostle Paul reiterates in Galatians 4:23-31 which greatly exposed your ignorance about Jesus statement and to shows that your demonic organization has deceived you people.

I'll just point out the fact in those verses:

[b]23 classified the bondwoman son who was born after the FLESH and the son born by the freewoman who is after the promise

24 Said this was an ALLEGORY for these are the TWO CONVENATS

25 puts the bondwoman as Sinai in Arabia which is now in bondage under Jerusalem

26 Puts Jerusalem as from ABOVE and FREE which is now THE MOTHER OF US ALL

27 makes a reference to Isaiah

28 then says BRETHREN (a term used for all CHRISTIANS) as Isaac was, are the CHILDREN of the promise
NOTE: The plural to switch from Isaac to Children which includes ALL CHRISTIANS

29 Makes the matter worse for you by saying "He that was born after the FLESH persecuted Him that was BORN after the SPIRIT"
Which means ALL CHRISTIANS must be born by the Spirit

30 Reference to old testament

31 even killed your ignorance finally by saying "SO BRETHREN (ALL CHRISTIANS) we are NOT CHILDREN of the BONDWOMAN (because children of the BONDWOMAN were born after FLESH) but of the FREE (because freewoman children were born after the SPIRIT)."[/b]

So ignorantly taking John 3:6 "who is born of the flesh is flesh" to mean Children of God will still be born by the flesh shows how you lack scriptural knowledge.

Barristter07:
Verse 48 should have saved you from this silly u typed up there

" As the one made of dust is, so those made of dust are [ all share the same human Nature ] , and as the heavenly one is, SO THOSE WHO ARE HEAVENLY ONE ALSO [ Divine nature ] "

It says this image of the heavenly one is for those who are Heavenly.

This is not for humans living on earth . so clearly it wasn't a reference to been made in Gods image. But Nature.

Just see the way you're going back and forth...

1. Image of God is divine nature
2. But man was created in image of God doesn't mean having DIVINE NATURE

I said Jesus is THE VERY IMAGE OF GOD.

If bearing earthly image makes us Human which is after Adam why Christ who is the very IMAGE OF GOD not God?

One of the seven wonders of deluded JWs will change the meaning, just watch!

Barristter07:
" Then I heard a loud voice from the throne: Look, God's dwelling is with HUMANITY , and he will live with them. They will be his peoples, and God himself will be with them and will be their God. " Revelation 21:3

Many will live forever on earth as humans. U saw humanity , dont you ?

But for those born of the spirit , They will have the DIVINE NATURE , GODS NATURE, GODS VERY FORM. In heaven ... Like the heavenly one, so are those who are heavenly. Question is : Does that mean they are Equal to God for the fact they will exist in heaven in GODS form ??

Did I say there won't be human on earth!

The point is, human born of flesh are still in sinful nature until regeneration of the body BY THE SPIRIT of God which is BORN OF THE SPIRIT took place.

That's what that verse is talking about

Barristter07:
Original ko , Fake ni

Man has never lost the image of God. U this fraud. Every human you meet is in the image of God either male or female ( James 3:9) . that's not the point of 1 Corinthians 15:49 . it deals with Nature. Even the one made of dust mentioned in that verse is already in the image of God. So it refers to something deeper.

OK sir!

Now Christ is THE IMAGE OF GOD

NOTE: It didn't say Christ HAS the image of God

Now compare this with your statement.

Barristter07:
The one who has not known sin, He MADE SIN for us. That's the point of contamination.

So at what point does this contamination occur, when Christ was living or when he was hung on the CROSS?

Even Colossians 2:9 exposed your ignorance that DIVINE NATURE DWELL in Christ BODILY

GODS FORM

To

SLAVE FORM

Changed.

So what happened to the DIVINE NATURE JESUS dropped/emptied until you tell us whatever happened to that nature.

BUT YOU SAID IT WAS EMPTIED, how can something you EMPTIED suddenly become CHANGE?

Jesus ( verse 47) . point of correction

They look forward to having the image/Nature of the Jesus the heavenly one. DIVINE NATURE. U are a real fraud.

Now this has back fire on you...

Jesus is the IMAGE OF GOD, so why are you claiming Jesus is not God.

Janosky:
1). Confirmed OLODO!
A Bowl in your hands you DROPPED it on the floor.
Is your hands EMPTY ?

Has a CHANGE occurred ?

Answer to your questions:
1. Yes, my hand is empty
2. No! Change has not occurred ON THE OBJECT only change in LOCATION. Reason! That a BOWL dropped from my hand doesn't make it BECOME A STEEL BOWL if it was made of PLASTIC, or does it?

Whatever you Emptied, Dropped, you have left behind because CHANGE has Occurred..

Janosky Confused OLODO

If not because your brain is paining you, you wouldn't have spew this thrash.

So where is that THING that you dropped?

Or what you dropped is the same with YOU!

Your analogy really sucks.

2).Point of correction: Jesus is the heavenly one spoken of in 1 Cor 15:45-49.. DON'T TWIST IT..

But Jesus is the IMAGE OF GOD

So if being the image of man makes us human then being the image of God must also make you God.

Emusan done write him own Bible.

Just as Watchtower wrote their own Bible

Man created in God's image Fell short of God's glory.
Man NEVER fell short of God's image, (except in Janosky delusional mindset).

So what is the Image of God in man?

Barristter07:
U FRAUD !

Adam never lost the image of God. He was Created as one. Every human is an image of God.

James 3:9
" With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who are made in the image of God. "

That's why they are different from animals. Christian or not , all are in Gods image ... U this fraud

That scripture refer to Nature. 1 Corinthians 15:49 refer to the Divine nature which they shall bear

Liar like your father the devil

Man was created with the image of God which Adam lost due to sin and Christ came to restore that Image.

My point is if man was already created in the Image of God and to you IMAGE OF GOD is DIVINE NATURE then it means we are not to be called Human then....

Unless you change your mouth again.

The point I'm driving from here is, back to that 2 Peter 1:4 the divine nature MAN will share/partake is the original image of God that Adam lost, so 2peter 1 doesn't claim WE WILL BECOME DIVINE NATURE, that's why we are only going to SHARE it.

Barristter07:
Your tonic is below . at least you are admitting humans will Bear the DIvine Nature.

" What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit." John 3:6

Anyone not born of the spirit are still Humans by nature even when they are ressurected. ( Rev 21:4)

ALL HUMAN!!!

So which means nothing has changed and resurrection is useless because if man was not restored to that ORIGINAL image of God which Adam was created with, then it means man will still die, and the body will still be experiencing decay.

Barristter07:
2 Corinthians 5:21 " He made the one who did not know sin to be sin for us "

God himself made him Sin , so that human nature is contaminated by virtue of been sacrificed for Sin. It deserves death.

That happened on the CROSS if not the virgin birth is false...which is the reason why you said "so that human nature is contaminated by virtue of been sacrificed for Sin."

Christ has never sin till He was put on the CROSS, it was on the CROSS HE BEARS ALL OUR SIN.

Are you saying Christ sin before he died?

What is the essence of the virgin birth if the human nature is already contaminated?

Liar....

Phil 2:6,7

From: GODS FORM
To.
SLAVES FORM

The person changed FORM/NATURE .

Not that it was hidden within. Which would make the scripture a LIE . what u hide wasn't emptied, U fraud! .. How could he be lower than angels if he has the divine nature hidden within him ? That would be a LIE.

Liar....but you're already said the first NATURE MUST BE DROPPED before the second nature can be picked. That's why you even said I should asked the Father what He did with the Divine nature.

Now it's no more EMPTIED but CHANGE where in the scripture can you find this?

Liar of the greatest century.

Just as I asked

Where is the divine nature JESUS EMPTIED

1 Corinthians 15:49

" And as we have borne the image of the earthly, we SHALL ALSO bear the image of the heavenly. "

Does " We shall also " sound like something they already have ? Clearly expose your fraud this refer to been created In the image of God.

Speaking ignorance and keep changing mouth

This was your first statement "...Just as we have bear the image of the one from dust, ( Human nature) We shall bear the image of the heavenly one ( Divine nature )"

The heavenly one here is God.....
So it's evident that you're just deluded Human are already created in the Image of God which is the glory Adam lost to sin and Jesus came to restore us back to that glory.

Barristter07:
E get as e be I only know u can't tear divine nature away from that verse.
So tell me what 2Pet 1:4 meant by sharers of THE DIVINE NATURE?

The image of God Adam lost and Christ came to earth to restore.

That's why you're even confused more when you talk about bearing the image of the heavenly one and that of image of Adam.

Barristter07:
You Fraud

" We shall ALSO BEAR " [ .. This isn't reffering to the image of God they already possess. ]

" ALSO BEAR " ...

The verse is referring to Nature , Adams Nature ( from Dust ) , Jesus nature ( Divine )

Ehhhh

So but your deluded organization say people will be resurrected on earth....

So which nature they will bear?

I guess you didn't see this coming....

So everybody who resurrected will bear DIVINE NATURE.....Bravo!

I know your tune will change now that Apostle was only talking about those who will be resurrected to heaven.

Barristter07:
God made that nature Sin.

That happened when the body was on the cross

So was the human body contaminated with sin?

Same person, different nature.

So there was a person LIVING in that Divine Nature and that person was removed then the Divine Nature was kept by the Father in Heaven.

Or you mean both the person and divine nature are the same?

This is how you'll know the evil doctrine of your demonic organization.

Death is a punishment for sin. U can wrong that already.

So what happened to that DIVINE NATURE that was COMPLETELY REMOVED.

You said above that SAME PERSON but DIFFERENT NATURE

So you agree that A PERSON was inside the DIVINE NATURE.

This is getting interesting!

That scripture that said the Father send the Divine nature?

So what was the Father sent?

What u hide isn't emptied. To hide is to keep secretly. Not empty

So what happened to that divine nature?

You keep dodging this but you know I won't let you rest until you tell us what happened to that divine nature.

Wait , U said it was hidden and the scripture exposed your lying nature by saying it was EMPTIED

Then why didn't you answer my first question, that what does it mean to emptied?

At least the will show who is lying...

Okay, what's the image of the heavenly one that's different from the image of the one made of dust?

You already said bearing image of the heavenly one is DIVINE NATURE, now I pointed it out that Man was created in the IMAGE OF GOD...

You're now asking stupid question!

If bearing the image of the heavenly one is having divine nature then it means God has already created human with divine nature.

When you supposed to study your Bible you'll be busy reading man made watchtower and awake.

Barristter07:
His human nature was sacrificed for SINS.

Was the human nature CONTAMINATED with sin?

Why simple question is so hard for you to answer?

Go and ask the Father what he did with it . Because its now clear death is not an option and hiding is not an option.

Imagine, I should go and ask the Father!

So you don't know what Father did with it but you claim it WAS THE SAME PERSON IN HEAVEN SENT TO EARTH....How come?

Divine nature can't die, you know this!
So what happened to the divine nature the Father took/completely removed in your brother's voice?

You must tell us what happened to that NATURE:

1. God killed it...
2. The Father took it and It's with Him which means the Father was lying to us that He sent it
3. The divine nature was hidden in His human nature!

Thank you

You're not welcome until you tell us what happened to that Divine nature that was removed completely/or took by the Father.

They have the promise to become ... Just as we have bear the image of the one from dust, ( Human nature) We shall bear the image of the heavenly one ( Divine nature ) . Sharing the divine nature make them A Possessor of that nature Just as Christ did.

Now you have shot yourself in the leg....

For you to equate IMAGE OF GOD to DIVINE NATURE...

Stop using BECOME I've thrash that since....but human are already created in the IMAGE OF GOD

Liar that's not what the verse says and that's why you've been jumping from one verse to another just to prove both Heb and 2peter are addressing the same thing when they're not.

Noone consults any book or reference any verse before understanding what Heb 2 is saying but you must force 2peter to say what it didn't

Barristter07:
Do even wicked humans not have spirits ?? Finally u are saying the divine nature is present in every human

Secondly, So Jesus never died for anyone's Sins just ordinary body dies ?

I used to laugh at you people ignorance whenever that second point is raised.

Who owns the BODY that Died in the first place?

Barristter07:
His human nature was sacrified for SINS. Leading to his death. So he also paid the punishment for sins through His death

Does the human nature contaminated with sin?

That was the simple question you're dodging

So what happened to His divine nature?

Nope , very clear and direct : Which Nature will they share ? THE DIVINE NATURE/Gods form. If Divine nature is proof of Godship to you, then they are GODS.

They share not BECOME as Christ did when He became human which brought us back to our initial point.

So both 2peter and Heb 2 aren't addressing the same point.

QED

Barristter07:
Your point that it was hidden in human nature was actually a lie . that was what canticles pointed out. If it was hidden in the human nature, Then it wasn't emptied but hidden

So correct yourself.

Using style to dodge my question.

What happened to the divine nature!

Answer that so that we can see whether I'm lie or not

I repeat what u hide within isn't emptied. YOU LIAR !!!

Jesus divine nature doesnt deserve punishment of death.

So what happened to the same divine nature?

You haven't answered my question but you just keep perambulating.

If you can tell us what happened to it then everyone can see the liar here.

Is the Greek word for " sharers" at 1Corinthians 1:6,7 and 2Pet 1:4 same ?

You means the word Greek word SHARER appear in verse 6....that's the problem when you are twisting scripture to suit yourself

Barristter07:
Not by death . Jesus commit no sin neither was the nature contaminated

So how did the Father took it away?

So was the human nature of Christ contaminated?

They are addressing the same point.

They are not, just agree you twisted scripture to agree with your position.

Barristter07:
The Father does that. Your error is you assumed Jesus needed to die before it can be removed , Not at all. The Humans who will get rid of their Fleshly human nature are doing so because corruption cannot inherit incorruption . their human bodies are contaminated by Sin. And the punishment for sin Is death.

Hypocrite! Now saying I'm assuming as if he doesn't assume!
Besides, I never assume but interpreting scripture with scripture.

How does the Father do it?

Either the Father put and end to it or the Father hide it somewhere.

But now what you've been shouting about since on 2peter 1 and that of Heb 2 is what you just did now.

You agreed that to pick up another form the person must drop the FIRST but all of a sudden, you don't want it to have the same meaning when it comes to Christ. Hypocrite!

Tell us what happened to the Divine form Christ emptied, your deluded brother has said to empty is to REMOVE COMPLETELY!

Does Jesus Divine nature inherit any sin to demand the punishment of death ??

Does the human nature tainted with sin?

I dont think you are okay


What you hide with you wasn't emptied . FACT . stop the lies

Your brain is paining you.

So what happened to the divine nature!

I wanted to show you why the Greek rendering proved sharers of divine nature are equal by divine nature, same way sharers of sufferings with Paul are said to undergo the same suffering.

Stop lying and make scripture say what it didn't say!

Nothing correlate in where you quoted with that of your statement.