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CAPTIVATOR:
This one doesn't have sense o
The human Baby in the womb doesn't have a Spirit ?. That is why the baby is alive, in the event of death , the baby's spirit return to God like every other human . So far the baby has spirit inside that womb , if that spirit is a person, na spirit person Dem transfer from heaven give am ?

Oponu still couldn't grab that simple explanation.

Yes! The baby has spirit in the womb but it's NOT THE BREATH IN THEIR NOSTRILS

Definitely, your erroneous interpretation of Job statement being to baby in the womb should how shallow and empty you are.

Dull empty skull.

Where did God say to TRANSFER SPIRIT TO A PREGNANT WOMAN?

Always spewing nonsense from his dull head

MaxInDHouse:
Are you sure?

No!

Has this scripture been fulfilled?

"for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again." - NWT

MaxInDHouse:
The Jewish nation as a whole never agree that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ till today despite everything his disciples penned down.

So if you don't believe there's no problem go and worship your own God no wahala!

I'm worshiping my own God or you want to claim you don't know that?

Irrelevant diversion

I've provided more evidence from the scripture but you still couldn't point just one out.

"for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again." - NWT

Has this scripture been fulfilled?

CAPTIVATOR:
You meant that they Exposed Jesus lies when he said only the Father knows what he himself knows ??

He can't still use his empty skull by now.

1. Jesus made that statement
2. His disciples heard Him when He made that statement.
3. The same disciples later ACKNOWLEDGED the eternal wisdom of Jesus by saying Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.
4. Jesus who made the previous statement WAS THERE RIGHT IN THEIR PRESENCE.
5. Jesus heard them CLEARLY when they say 'HE KNOWS ALL THINGS'
6. IF Jesus didn't KNOW ALL THINGS as good Master and Lord, He will immediately CORRECT HIS OWN DISCIPLES gross misunderstanding (unlike the liar in Warwick, who claimed Jesus, Jehovah, and God's Holy spirit were with them and they are still ALLOWED TO TEACH ERROR).
7. Instead of Jesus to correct them, Jesus goes further TO ENDORSED THEIR CONVICTION OF WHAT THEY JUST BELIEVE.

That is why your empty skull claimed the apostles MADE MISTAKE and worst still that BIBLE contradicts ITSELF for your evil mind, something none of your gods in Warwick will never try to say.

Oniro oshi

CAPTIVATOR:
Its no longer spirit.

But Soul now

Olodo...

So you don't know both soul and spirit and used interchangeably.

So the spirit that returned to heaven is breath after all. You can't find anywhere it's written that God send Spirits that is a person to final abode.

Idiot

Olodo

Answer my question, what did God do with the BREATH OF THE WICKED THAT RETURNED TO HIM.

At least you can't deny that THE SPIRIT RERUNS TO GOD.

Here is that scripture you quoted.

" be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and body in hell. "

Your head isn't correct o, according to this verse God send Both Soul and Body TOGETHER. But you idiot is claiming only some spirit person is sent there. Without physical body God doesn't send.

Yes! Your spirit is sent to HELL.

So if spirit is a person, it means all those wicked persons are still in heaven chilling

They are even taking AC, eating BBQ-sauce and drinking alcohol like you guys.

If a human baby dies in the womb, the spirit also returns to God . To tell you spirit exist in there ! na spirit person dem transfer inside the womb? That's all I ask

Who says baby doesn't have spirit?

I educate you on the nature of spirit, which means it wasn't just BREATH against your delusion of Job statement.

Not only Baby but HUMAN have spirit but it wasn't just BREATH IN THE NOSTRILS.

I've already exposed you lie of how you tried to make it looks like God sit beside every woman to TRANSFER BREATH TO THE BABY IN THEIR WOMB.

Oponu....

CAPTIVATOR:
You head isn't correct

If Job doesn't have spirit in the womb, he would be dead . Na spirit person Dem transfer inside the Mother womb?

See empty skull.

You claimed SPIRIT is a BREATH IN THE NOSTRILS and Baby don't BREATH as the way you breath.

Is not evident that you're the one who has problem upstair?

Definitely, Job wasn't talking about LIFE IN THE WOMB because that would have been a great scientific error in the scripture.

Olodo...

MaxInDHouse:
Well we know he was enthroned that year

By this, you should concrete evidence to back it up.

So where are your evidences or it's a claim that you ACCEPTED?

so if you don't believe nobody is forcing it on you

Of course, I can't believe what the God word did not say.

Jesus reigning and second coming was so talked about by Jesus Himself and do His Apostles.

Every scripture pointed to PHYSICAL COMING OF JESUS

"for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short. “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here is the Christ,’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it...Therefore, if people say to you, ‘Look! He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; ‘Look! He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For just as the lightning comes out of the east and shines over to the west, so the presence of the Son of man will be. - NWT

The so called WORLD WAR that happens in 1914 that happened only in EUROPE didn't even near the GREAT TRIBULATION that will shake the POWER OF HEAVEN which there will will never be ANOTHER ONE LIKE IT.

Reason why another WORLD WAR II happened some years later and now the world is BUILDING UP FOR THE THIRD WORLD WAR and with every massive mass destruction weaponries in their arsenal, there is probability that it was the GREAT TRIBULATION the scripture was talking about.

because with over 10,000 Nuclear Bombs alone and at the detonation of them all, NO SINGLE LIFE WILL BE SAVED ON EARTH.

Lastly, Jesus Himself said the second @color part, attested to by the two Angels at Jesus ascension in Acts 1 and reconfirmation in Rev 1. ALL EYES WILL SEE JESUS AT HIS RETURN.

go and practice whatever you wish for your God!

Wrong I can't wish ANYTHING FOR THE GREAT YAHWEH.

Well, I'm practicing what The great YAHWEH said in His word and I don't disagree with Him.

MaxInDHouse:
Just as the leaders of thousands of different religions out there claims to present the same thing with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.

So if you can't present any group that's doing what you call PERFECT then there's no case!

Still running away from 1 Thess 4:16-17.

Well, the point is, Jesus was not enthroned in 1914.

None of the events mentioned in 1 Thess 4:16-17 happened in 1914 and it has not happened YET.

So, any 1914 doctrine remains FALSE, reason why the first people with the idea have long DUMPED IT WHERE IT BELONGS 'the THRASH'

MaxInDHouse:
Whatever my guy: WHATEVER!

So far you can't present any whose teaching is perfect from your own understanding you have no case here!

Whatever!!! But you'll still spend sleepiness day and night on Nairaland, jumping from thread to thread promoting your WHATEVER

If you take your own advice, you shouldn't be here as long as it is WHATEVER.

Well, the teaching OF THE BIBLE IS PERFECT and it's the one I presented.

Do you have any teaching more PERFECT than what is found in God's word?

MaxInDHouse:
You either take it or leave it just as you've been doing to thousands of religions out there who are contradicting themselves in doctrines it's not compulsory you agree!

So it's now force

Watchtower organization is part of the THOUSANDS don't forget and I'm glad as you understand that you are teaching a CONTRADICTORY doctrine.

As long as you didn't provide evidence that support what happened in 1 Thess 4:16-17 in 1914 it means you lie against God and His word also put you in the level of those you claim having thousand contradictory teachings

From God's word and even from your own organization publication I've proved beyond reasonable doubt how Jesus BECAME RULER of kings long before 1914.

Janosky:

Job 27:3
As long as my life is within me, And the breath of God is [still] in my nostrils,

Christian Standard Bible
as long as my breath is still in me and the breath from God remains in my nostrils,

Holman Christian Standard Bible
as long as my breath is still in me and the breath from God remains in my nostrils"
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
nostril
noun

plural noun: nostrils
either of two external openings of the nasal cavity in vertebrates that admit air to the lungs and smells to the olfactory nerves
According to Emusan,Spirit is a person living in two external openings of Emusan's nasal cavity.

Oga, you need a brain check.

I didn't call you people empty skull for nothing.

Baby don't BREATH THROUGH NOSTRILS in the WOMB.

So how can what Job described in that verse happened in the WOMB?

GOSHHH

You people emptiness is increasing day by day.

Anyways, you're nothing called JaNosense for nothing

CAPTIVATOR:
Returns to God in heaven. At least you admitted wicked persons enter heaven, God's holy dwelling. See your life Emusan

Olodo....

Wicked people ENTERED HEAVEN

You know how embarrassing it would feel to know those wicked persons remain in heaven, so you had to form another lie.

Just see the way he keeps dishing unreasonable point out of his empty skull.

But it's not embarrassing for you to say the SPIRIT OF THE WICKED returned to God as well.

Well, I know as usual you won't understand.

Can you provide a scripture that said God send spirits of wicked people to final abode after they tasted heaven?

Tasted HEAVEN

No bi only tasted they even EAT HEAVEN

Human can kill the body but ONLY GOD can destroy the SOUL.

Go and look for that scripture in the contradicted Bible you're carrying up and down

Without spirit , the baby in the womb is dead.
The moment Job became a living being in his mother's womb was when God gave him spirit. ( Gen 2:7, Job 27:3 )

But you claimed SPIRIT is in the NOSTRILS whereas BABY DONT BREATH THROUGH NOSTRILS in the WOMB

Do you see the reason why I do say you're too dull?

I've clarified this before but your empty skull still couldn't assimilate it.

You are now in a tunnel, Since spirit is a person , Do you admit God transfer a spirit person to Baby Job in his mother's womb to make him a living being?

This part of this discussion is beyond your level, stop embarrassing yourself in a public forum.

God gave human a SPIRIT AND THE SPIRIT IS A PERSON because the scripture attested to it that The spirit can know OUR THOUGHT and the in realm of intellectuals ONLY A PERSON have the ability to know THOUGHT.

Liar will claim it is PERSONIFICATION!

CAPTIVATOR:
Are you getting it now, I love this effort you are putting into making Jesus a Liar, keep it up

False accusation to make me and him to be on the same level of saying God's word is contradicted.

Jesus disciples in whom Jesus made that statement LATER acknowledged THAT THEIR LORD AND MASTER KNOWS ALL THINGS.

We have heard your Jesus know all things anthem, this was why I asked : Why did Jesus now tell lies at Matthew 24:36 , Why claim only the Father knows something you also know ?

No! You didn't HEAR ME!

HEAR JESUS AND HIS APOSTLES which is evident from the God's word.

Jesus knows ALL THINGS

Jesus ENDORSED THAT THEIR BELIEVES

So, continue to deny God and His word.

Shebi that was the reason you AGREED THAT Bible contained contradictions since truth is soo heavy for you to swallow.

MaxInDHouse:
If you welcome all these different religions with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines as your fellow believers what you're asking me is irrelevant.
Each of them welcomed one another without asking which is right or wrong as per doctrines so my friend keep your beliefs while i also keep mine i owe you no explanation!

That is what I'm saying.

So 1 Thess 4:16-17 isn't prophesy about Jesus Christ again

CAPTIVATOR:
Cool! I ask that because you said this

" Yes! A dead person doesn't have SPIRIT because that is what goes to heaven to give account. "
Safe to say Wicked persons also go to Heaven when they die ? Yes or No. l

Yes! Wicked people returned to God who sent them to their final abode.

Remember, you agreed that wicked PEOPLE SPIRIT ALSO RETURNED TO GOD.

So, what did God do with their SPIRIT?

You said initially that

Contrary to your nonsense above, Job 27:3 Equated our been given spirit with Adam. There is presence of Spirit in our nostrils too. Which means without spirit, LIFE DOESN'T EXIST! . For a Baby Job in the womb to be alive 🌞 , he must have Spirit. Since this spirit that signified presence of life in the Baby is a Person, do you admit it means a Spirit person from heaven was transfered to the mother's womb?

This is Job 27:3 "As long as my breath is within me And spirit from God is in my nostrils" - NWT

Where did Job talk about baby in the womb?

I've educate you enough about the condition of the baby in the womb, you're too ignorant of what is happening in the womb.

Again. human spirit is a PERSON and that was the reason the spirit has ability to know THOUGHT.

No matter how you dodge this fact, I'll continue to bring it to your empty skull.

CAPTIVATOR:
I need to question your education at this point , You said " No one is a Lie"
Any educated person knows both statement cannot be true.

When you don't have any education and you want to question someone else

If Jesus knows all things, that means he knows the day and hour, so why did he Lie that the son doesn't know, added another lie this is a knowledge only the Father knows?

The significance of that only .

It's now IF which shows you're denying God's word.

Yes! Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS no matter how you lied that undeniable FACT can't be REMOVED from the scripture.

It's not my statement but God's word.

At least you agreed BIBLE CONTAINS CONTRADICTION.

Jozzy4:
According the Emusan who said Jesus lied, Jesus was wrong that only the Father knows.
....... Same Emusan admitted Spirit return to heaven , Criminals and assassin's died and return to Heaven since their Spirit is a Person ,

Emusan is an haven of shining ignorance.

Where did I say Jesus lied?

Well, sit and enjoy the Bible study

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Deeperlife, RCCG, MFM, Winner Chapel, Christ Embassy, SCOAN, Celestial, Cherubim and Seraphim, Foursquare, Chosen, Dinamis, Harvesters, Omega all have different opinions on beliefs and doctrines that is why they are CONTRADICTING themselves!

So go and tell them your story!

Just see diversion tactics from the main point.

Their different opinions is in your head.

Just tell me where all the churches you mentioned have different opinions on 1 Thess 4:16-17.

He can't defend 1 Thess 4 again

MaxInDHouse:
Good!

So you and i can't agree on beliefs after all if you read it on your own and i also do the same each reader will come to a different conclusion unlike what Jesus instituted that his disciples should TEACH others to continue making disciples.

The above is a pure delusion.

Their is a grammatical structure that every languages follow, if you have different opinion it means you didn't follow the grammatical structure.

But if something is written in a PLAIN English Language, you can only get confused base on whatever you have been preprogram with.

I quoted your own translation where it clearly stated that "because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’su voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord."

This is a plain English Language.

Or is there any words used here that you don't know its meaning?

If you read yours alone and i read mine alone there's no way we can both arrive at the same line of thought that's why you have thousands of religions out there claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet instead of you to leave it that way since you don't welcome Jesus' opinion on disciples teaching disciples you are arguing up and down expecting people who also read the same book independently to agree with you!

So that means, you have problem with English Language or you need someone else to interpret English Language to you again after reading something in English

From the above verse in your NWT

1. Who witnesses the VOICE and the SOUND OF TRUMPET that raised the dead in Christ?

2. "The Lord HIMSELF will descend from heaven..." this corroborate with what the Angels told the disciples at the ascension ground. "and said: “Men of Galʹi·lee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus who was taken up from you into the sky will come in the SAME MANNER as you have seen him going into the sky.” - NWT

Which part do you need interpreter for in the above?

MaxInDHouse:
You were TAUGHT by some religionists just as i was TAUGHT by some religionists

No! I read scripture in plain English.

That is why I never tell you THIS IS WHAT one pastor tells me to BELIEVE.

so if you are not convinced that my beliefs are true at least you believe what your teachers TAUGHT you.

Your belief is against GOD'S WORD that is why I'm using the same God's WORD to expose your BELIEF, you can only proof me wrong with the same God's word.

If you claimed 1 Thess 4:16-17 is a prophecy about Jesus coming.

1. Why did you lie that THOSE ONES ALIVE WILL LATER DIE AND JOIN THOSE WHO JESUS RESURRECTED in 1914, when God's word says "Those who ARE ALIVE will join the one who RESURRECTED in the air (which is on the same event)"

2. Check the below screenshot when Watchtower answered the uestion, Yes, We are Christian! See number 5 point, Jesus was appointed to have AUTHORITY OVER every MAN

Compare that statement with what you earlier said about having AUTHORITY.

So keep yours while i keep mine!

I never preach anything to you, you can point out where I did that.

So, your diversion tactics won't work here

Kobojunkie:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Keep telling yourself these things.

Just simple question, see panicking

Are you of Jacob blood?

kingxsamz:
Point to any of my posts on this thread which shows restlessness.
All I said was that all of you put together are hilarious, and you quoted me to remind me that I'm laughing alone in my room. Make I do TV broadcast before I laugh?

Lol, it's fine, but obviously my simple comment struck a nerve.

See feeling

Remember, I just reminded you that YOUR LAUGH which is just what you did in one corner of you room has no EFFECT. No matter how you laugh about people's belief it can't never REMOVE JUST A SINGLE HAIR from them.

The main question is, are you part of that majority? 🤷🏾‍♂️

Absolutely!!!

Kobojunkie:
I love the way you people like to think that using a translation of the text that suits your particular delusion means Jesus Christ must have lied when He said He was sent by His Father only to the Lost Sheep of Israel from the same NIV. 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

anytime you hear them saying Jesus must have lied, just know that they are the one actually saying Jesus lied.

It's evident that you lied against Jesus as Jesus message is for THE WHOLE WORLD.

So,are you of the blood of Jacob?

MaxInDHouse:
If you don't want me to know your church and your pastor why not keep your beliefs while i keep mine?

Where did I tell you to accept MY BELIEF?

All I've been doing is SHOWING YOU EVIDENCES FROM GOD'S WORD.

Or have I ever said, this is WHAT MY PASTOR SAY about GOD and you need to believe my Pastor?

So, address my post and stop playing hide and seek

Kobojunkie:
You disregard Jesus Christ and His Truth, but you are mightily focused on the particulars of my bloodline as though it somehow colors the almost 2000-year-old facts of Jesus Christ. Of course, I want to understand how this detail of mine matters as far as the content of Scripture established almost 2000 years ago.

You lied against Jesus Christ because Jesus died for the WHOLE WORLD.

Reason why He commanded His disciples to go and MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL NATION!

Matt 28:19

So, again, If I am not of the bloodline of Jacob, you mean I am not allowed to state the facts of Jesus Christ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Just answer the simple question, if your conscience isn't judging you already

You are lying against Jesus

Kobojunkie:
Wait a second, so If I am not of the bloodline of Jacob, you mean I am not allowed to state the facts of Jesus Christ? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Does my question sound that way?

I only ask you, ARE YOU OF THE BLOOD OF JACOB?

A simple yes or no question

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ who reiterated that His Father, God, sent Him only to the Lost Sheep of Israel is merely a joker to you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Abeg, waka pass me with your brain-damage o'jare!

Why are you avoiding that question

Are you of the blood of Jacob?

kingxsamz:
But you have to remind me, why? Because it hurts your feelings. 😁
I'm laughing, same way thousands of others are laughing and making content of mockery against Chosen church and deluded Christians.

No! If not because you have restlessness over what you claimed it doesn't concern you won't be jumping from every threads about God.

Most of you will remain deluded for the rest of your lives anyway, but should that stop me from laughing? Make I no laugh again? 😂

smile.... when majority of Christians are even smarter than you.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, the one who made the statement found in the passage instead insists that in much the same way God gave the Bronze snake to the Israelites in the desert as a path to redemption, He too was being given to the Israelites who were condemned of His time so that they no longer be condemned.
For Pete's sake, the entire conversation Jesus had in John 3 beginning from verses 1 - 21 was with Nicodemus, a Pharisee of Israel. Jesus Christ was not foolish when He pointed out that He was sent to the same people who were condemned by God in the desert.

Note: God did not condemn the foreigners living among the Israelites even in the desert.

Yes! But you can see clearly that God is after THE WORLD.

Meanwhile, you have not answered my question and proved how Only Jacob's BLOOD will be saved.

My question again, ARE YOU OF THE BLOOD OF JACOB?

Kobojunkie:
Your attempt at a segue is what is unnecessary since what I stated is the fact of the God of Israel and Jesus Christ.

No! It's not fact, reason why you can't answer that simple question and support your point with the scripture.

"For God so LOVE the WORLD that He gave His one and only Son, WHOSOEVER believe in him will not perish but have everlasting life"

So, tell if you have Jacob blood running in you and where God said ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE JACOB'S BLOOD will be saved.

kingxsamz:
Lol, it's something to me. The fuuIishness from you guys is amusing.

The best you can do is just laughing with your own self inside one corner of your room.

That is why I said, it's nothing when your mockery can't even remove a single hair from Christ's Body.

MaxInDHouse:
What is the name of your pastor?

Your your problem isn't the name of my church again, but now the NAME OF MY PASTOR.

Why now ask for his wife, children and house address join?

Useless tactics to boycott his lies being exposed.