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Aemmyjah:
Where did Paul describe God as a mysterious God?
Did you see in Bible or Papa told you?

the screenshot by @achorladey has exposed you people the more.

See the way Watchtower is using common English language to play with your salvation.

IG God can't be FULLY KNOWN or UNDERSTOOD is that not the meaning of MYSTERY?

Check dictionary meaning of mystery and compare it what the lie your organization put forth in that screenshot.

CAPTIVATOR:
That is the knitting together stage, he did same for Adam from the dust of the ground.

That means your point body without spirit is useless.

"You [God] made all the delicate, inner parts of my body and knit me together in my mother’s womb " Psalm 139:13

God gave what he knit together Spirit , which is ?

1. - Breath of life

2. A spirit person transferred

So God sat with a woman and was doing all this with His own hand during pregnancy bah..

Too many dull post

CAPTIVATOR:
" only" is written there. The above is saying Jesus lied when he said only the Father when others also know.


Is Jesus the Father ?

Is Holy spirit the Father ?

And the scripture says JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS.

If you're not a manipulative person.

Why did you say the Apostles made MISTAKE for saying Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS?

That was because you quite know what it means to KNOW ALL THINGS.

Aemmyjah:
He was teaching people to worship a God he did not understand?

Now you're changing mouth.

Was it about understanding or God being a MYSTERY?

Where did he call him a mysterious God?

The word MYSTERY as translated appeared more than 5 times which include Christ, God e.t.c

Search for that key word and stop being spoonfed all the time.

MaxInDHouse:
When did he began ruling over Kings?

Immediately after the resurrection, reason why he said "ALL POWER has been given to Him both in heavens and on earth"

Who are the kings over whom he ruled as King?

YOUR GOVERNING BODY

CAPTIVATOR:
God gave Spirit to man at what point ?

" Body without spirit is dead"

This means that Baby in the womb needed Spirit to come alive, So the question is what did God gave that body in the womb or Adam at creation to come alive.

1. A spirit person ( Since spirit is a person)

2. Breath [ a force of life]

Your ignorance is very glaring.

So you believe God BREATH IN EVERY WOMAN WOMB anytime they get pregnant.

Including those you consider ENEMIES OF GOD

This is very laughable.



Medically, when a baby is forming in the womb the body and brain have formed to certain level before HEART formed, even before heart formed, can we say the baby is dead?

So your body without SPIRIT shows you don't understand what you're comparing with each other.

The fact remains, human spirit is A PERSON because the SPIRIT KNOWS THE THOUGHT.

First proof me wrong that inanimate object can know THOUGHT.

CAPTIVATOR:
Jesus said ' Only the Father know the day and hour '

Is Jesus the Father ? Die He lied ?

And the scripture says JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS.

The scripture also said the Holy spirit KNOWS THE THOUGHT of God.

Aemmyjah:
Go and worship your mysterious god

We worship who we know John 4:22

So Apostle Paul is also worshipping a MYSTERIOUS GOD.

OR you didn't read that part from him.

Khastro:
Yes, I meant non hollow, thanks.
Yes, there are reinforced columns.

Then no problem with any block being used, just ensure the columns and beams meet the structural standard.

Aemmyjah:
😂
Someone who believes in a mystery or mysteries is trying to teach someone
What a shame!

Even husband and wife coming together to be ONE was considered A MYSTERY which Paul even pictures the relationship between Christ and His Church with.

And I'm very sure you believes in this SAME MYSTERY as well.

How much more the mystery OF GOD spoken of many times in the scriptures.

You want to make it sound as if saying God is a MYSTERY is a taboo to the scripture.

CAPTIVATOR:
What did God send into the Earthly womb

1. Spirit person

2. Breath of life

No where in the scripture you read that God EVER SENT ANYTHING INTO woman WOMB, it's part of your delusion.

God GAVE HUMAN SPIRIT and that Spirit is a PERSON as The spirit has the ABILITY TO KNOW thought.

Only a person has the ABILITY to know THOUGHT.

proof me wrong on this first.

Matthew 23:46 some thoughts are for the Father alone. Is holy spirit the same person called Father ?

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS

Reason you called the Apostles a liar.

The Holy spirit knows the mind of God and the VERY THOUGHT OF GOD.

These are truth from the scriptures you have been battling with since.

Reason you have to say for Holy spirit to know God MIND AND THOUGHT means it's PERSONIFICATION.

Which is the MEANING you gave for your own SELFISH INTEREST.

CAPTIVATOR:
It wasn't Jesus speaking in the verses you provided, those speaking contradicted Jesus at Matthew 24:36

But that statement was MADE IN THE PRESENCE OF JESUS CONCERNING JESUS HIMSELF.

Why are you turning your blind eyes to this fact.

Do you think Jesus will not correct His own Apostles if they make any MISTAKE?

You have this mindset because Watchtower had brainwashed you to accept that after Jesus chosen Watchtower as the ONLY true religion on earth Jesus still left them to be MAKING MISTAKES.

MaxInDHouse:
Prophetic pronouncement regarding the time Jesus will raise his 144,000 corulers {1Thessalonians 4:16-17}

This is what 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 says "because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice and with God’s trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with [the] Lord." - NWT

You means this is what happened in 1914?

But have it in mind what Paul says in 1 Corin 15:23 "But there is an order to this resurrection: Christ was raised as the first of the harvest; then all who belong to Christ will be raised when he comes back."

Which means after this RESURRECTION at the coming of Christ NO ANY resurrection again.

he remains beside his father in heaven

But He was already a RULER of kings which His Kingship has started long before 1914.

So He can't be enthroned in 1914.

until he is given the order to start acting {Psalms 110:1-2}

This is Psalm 110:1-2 "The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is: “Sit at my right hand
Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion, [saying:] “Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.” - NWT

Paul shield more light on this when he says "For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet." - NWT

So you see Jesus already became a RULER before His enemies are put under His feet.

that prophecy is what God's people got wrong thinking Jesus will start ruling the earth but instead he took all the dead in Christ to heaven that year and drove Satan out of heaven, that's what he meant by saying "i going to prepare a place for you" {John 14:6} from the beginning God never prepare any place in heaven for humans {Psalms 115:16} it's the same place where those fallen angels occupied that Jesus made ready for his corulers that's the reason those angels came down with great rage {Revelations 12:7-12} to cause trouble on earth since the year 1914 till now! Matthew 24:3-14

Before continue with your delusion.

Clear the above evidences from the scripture and clear the below questions.

Who are the God's people?
What did they get wrong?

Was it written in the scripture or a new message reveal to them?

Calitoscassius:
Well.. then! 6 inches are also as good to build any kinda house.

You use the blocks you can afford or you like.

I used 6 inches for an upstair house

If the building is a frame structure, no issue.

And 6" isn't a load bearing and it's not a best practice to be used for external walls.

Khastro:
Hello Engr,
My uncle used solid blocks to build his house, though he can't continue to first floor for now and stopped as bungalow.

What do you have to say about use of solid blocks in buildings construction?

All block types are SOLID, you try to say non-hollow block.

Since the structure is spanning to first floor but still at ground floor, then you don't have issue with the block used EXCEPT you discovered there was no COLUMNS introduced to support the above load.

Are there columns with reinforcement in the uncompleted structure?

Calitoscassius:
Bullsheeet! Total rubbish! 6inches blocks are also as good. It is just that you would need more of a 6inches. Dat's all!

No! You use the same number of blocks.

Both 6" and 9" block have equal length and height only difference is the width.

CAPTIVATOR:
Provide where he endorse their statement with his own mouth that he knows all things ?

I can provide where he admitted he doesn't know all things.

Read the scripture I provided earlier.

The goal post is about to be shift again

CAPTIVATOR:
In short you can't find anywhere Jesus himself contradicted what he admitted about the son at Matthew 23:46 ?

Answer my question above..

No hiding place for you.

CAPTIVATOR:
Says The meaning of spirit of man is a person.

Your head is already overheating.

Try to relax when

because what jargons did you put up here?

Did God send a spirit person to wombs or breath?

So you know GOD ACTUALLY SENT something to womb.

Well, that is your own perverted understand.

God gave EVERY HUMAN A spirit and the Spirit is a PERSON.

But holy spirit doesn't know the Father thought concerning the day and hour?

Provide where scripture say this.

Two persons or one person. Who knows the day and hour ?

The Holy Knows the THOUGHT of God.

Let that sink first

CAPTIVATOR:
Eeyahhhhh
Provide where Jesus himself contradicted himself that he doesn't know the day and hour ?

1. Was Jesus heard His own Apostles when they said we know that YOU(Jesus) KNOW ALL THINGS?

2. If it was a MISTAKE will Jesus correct them?

3. Why did Jesus ACKNOWLEDGED TBEIR STATEMENT rather than ENDORSING IT?

CAPTIVATOR:
You still can't provide where Jesus contradict his own statement that the son doesn't know the day nd hour ?

I've provided the scripture just tell me what I said was not in God's word.

CAPTIVATOR:
A spirit person was sent inside earthly wombs like Jesus Christ birth ?

Says you.

Jesus said only the Father knows his own thoughts. Nobody else know his thoughts concerning the day and hour. Just admit Jesus lied because this single statement has ruined everything you saying

The Holy spirit KNOWS THE THOUGHT OF GOD.
The truth was so heavy for you that you have to say it's PERSONIFICATION.

Jesus knows ALL THINGS

You can't bear this truth you have to spew the trash that the Apostles MADE MISTAKE.

CAPTIVATOR:
For someone that doesn't know the day and hour ...

So you can't provide where he said it himself ?

Shame.

Is John 16:30 and John 21:17 not in YOUR BIBLE?

The scripture says JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS.

You contended with this truth so teeee you have to called the blessed Apostles liar.

Remember you can't provide where Jesus or anyone in the Bible called Jesus Michael.

CAPTIVATOR:
He never said so.

"The son doesn't know " Matthew 23:46

Who is the Son?
Is he lying here?

His listeners heard Him when He made that statement and the same LISTENERS SAID THEIR LORD AND MASTER KNOWS ALL THINGS and their MASTER AND LORD ACKNOWLEDGED it.

Reason why you called it MISTAKE ON THEIR PART because you're an enemy of the truth.

CAPTIVATOR:
Spirit of man isnt a person , yet it's said to know thought.

No! Going back to default mode.

Spirit of man is a person that is why JE HAS ABILITY TO KNOW OUR THOUGHT.

The challenge has come back, proof to me first how INANIMATE OBJECT CAN KNOW THOUGHT.

And Jesus lied only the Father knows his own thoughts ?

Your claim not mine.

The scripture says Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.

You know the implication that was the reason you called the blessed Apostles liar.

CAPTIVATOR:
Show this thread where he said He knows all things ?

I've provided John 16:30 and John 21:17

Just remove those parts from your Bible so that you'll have rest of mind.

CAPTIVATOR:
That is why the Son confess he doesn't know the day and hour. He isn't God Almighty, he has a God.

But you already agreed.

You delusion won't pass just like that.

So, you have billion of gods to be worship.

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.

You know this and that was reason, you lied and said the Apostles made MISTAKE.

CAPTIVATOR:
so Since holy spirit is a distinct person from the Father.
So why didn't holy spirit know the day and hour ?

Only a PERSON can know THOUGHT

The scripture says HOLY SPIRIT knows THE VERY THOUGHT OF GOD.

Reason why you resulted to PERSONIFICATION because you know the implication.

CAPTIVATOR:
Jesus confess himself that he doesn't know certain things ( Matthew 23:46)

Isn't Jesus witness greater ?

Jesus ACKNOWLEDGED that HE KNOWS ALL THINGS.

So, it's evident you're the one who is out of the picture here.

CAPTIVATOR:
You Re admitting we don't know all things because we have a God

My point is on 1 John 2:20.

IF you agreed that WE ALL THINGS, that makes us God Almighty.

Now, you want to change gear, you're too dull for that.

It means Jesus doesn't know all things too since he has a God he worship. He isn't Almighty.

The scripture says JESUS KNOWS ALL THINGS.

To know ALL THINGS means to be God Almighty.

Your confusion is the same as that of your deluded colleague about PARTAKER of divine nature.

In the process of trying to be clever, you created a bigger gallow and put your own neck in it.

CAPTIVATOR:
NWT translators don't believe Jesus is All knowing. It means they regard those statements as the same with 1John 2:20

Now another spinning.

You people are truly shameless.

So, you must BELIEVE before you can TRANSLATE.

Then, this is another evidence that NWT translators HEAVILY MANIPULATED THEIR TRANSLATION since they ALREADY HAVE A CERTAIN BELIEVE ABOUT JESUS.

It was Jesus himself who made the statement at Matthew 23:46 that He doesn't know some things Only the Father knows.

And the Apostles is Jesus made those statements in the PRESENCE OF JESUS.

You see that statement Only the Father knows, it will keep haunting you

If it will hurt me, I'll be spinning or trying to twist it like you did to the pure Apostles confession and Gods word about the Holy spirit KNOWING THE THOUGHT OF GOD.

CAPTIVATOR:
The bold is why you ain't smart, if I'm Almighty I dont have to worship any God. Almighty doesn't have a God. Wake up !

This means we don't KNOW ALL THINGS.

A subtle remind, you know the reason why you want the Apostles statement to be A MISTAKE.....

Can you see why your initial acknowledgment was so dumb to begin with.