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Expanse2020:
Sin is sin
Where you do it intentionally or not
And if you said he inherited a sin surely he should be punished for it...
Do how come someone who inherited a sin is not a sinner any more but innocent.

You don't get it!

We inherited a sinful NATURE from Adam means we have that nature that will always expose us to SIN not that we have committed any sin (i.e brake any God's law)

SIN simply means violating God's Law.

Steep:
OK there is no Jehovah there too, why does your organisation use Jehovah there?

Let's see if he will answer your question.

This thing really pained this worshipper of the 8 men in Warwick so tee he has to divide my post into 8 different unconnected posts with jargons and spammed my mention with it

But I won't allow you to drag me in the mud as pig with you.

Janosky:
Emusan LYING dim wit gifted with stupidity.

Thank you!

Oga, wetin be Hebrew name Joseph and Mary dell call their Son?

The Hebrew name of Jesus is Yeshua

Do you have any problem with that?

Is Latin the language of Christ parents?

Is Latin the language of the Jewish family Christ was born into?

No! But the English got the name Jesus from Latin derived from the Greek name Lesous.

Do you have problem with that?

Was Jehovah an Hebrew or Greek name?

Oga ,Your MUMU theory about Yahweh nah comic relief.

It's comic yet you claimed you used the name Yahweh often.

What does that make you?

Also, about the salvation ONLY in Jesus name, I leave you with this from your own translation [b]12 "Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” 13 Now when they saw the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated and ordinary men, they were astonished. And they began to realize that they had been with Jesus. 14 As they were looking at the man who had been cured standing with them, they had nothing to say in answer to this. 15 So they commanded them to go outside the Sanʹhe·drin hall, and they began consulting with one another, 16 saying: “What should we do with these men? Because, for a fact, a noteworthy sign has occurred through them, one evident to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and we cannot deny it. 17 So that this does not spread any further among the people, let us threaten them and tell them not to speak to anyone anymore on the basis of this name.” 18 With that they called them and ordered them not to say anything at all or to teach on the basis of the name of Jesus." - Acts 4:12-18[/b]

And the challenge again, provide a passage like this about the name Jehovah.

Lastly, since you used more of Yahweh than Jehovah coined by a Catholic Mork then you're a Yahweh Witness and not a Jehovah witness

MaxInDHouse:
You don't get it.

Did you get it yourself?

We also don't care whether you call JEHOVAH or YAHWEH

You care and dishonest about it.

Have you used YAHWEH in any of your write up before?

So you always glorified the less accurate JEHOVAH than Yahweh the evidence is even here on this this post.

what matters is that the Almighty God has a unique name JEHOVAH and that name must be made known! John 17:6,26

Yet you don't care but you still go ahead to say the Almighty God name is 'JEHOVAH', why not Yahweh if you don't care?

Well, the truth is the moment you people start using the more accurate name Yahweh the more your organisation is crumbling.

As for the name Jesus it's not calling it that will save anyone rather it's doing the will of his father JEHOVAH {Matthew 7:21-23} so if you're calling Jesus' name but failed to know what he said about the importance of the saviour who saved him then you've derailed.

Now you're started rewritten the scriptures.

The scriptures says it's ONLY JESUS NAME that Salvation is found Acts 4:12 but the lying liar jws like his father the Devil says No! The scripture is wrong.

Just show me where any one called on the name Jehovah in the New Testament.

The name recorded that people called on in the New Testament is Jesus' Name.

This is what God's word said:

“everyone who calls on the name of JEHOVAH will be saved.” Joel 2:32

That's what Paul quoted for his Christian brothers! Romans 10:13

That the NT writers quoted OT and applied them to Jesus shows Jesus is truly The Almighty God.

Paul applied that verse to Jesus not Jehovah

The same Paul recorded that Christians in all places are calling on the NAME JESUS and not Jehovah, that shows that Paul knew what the Holy Spirit says in Joel and to have applied it to Jesus Christ.

So to be saved we must call on the name of JEHOVAH and doing exactly what His Son asked us to do {Matthew 17:5} and making sure what we do in service to God is backed by the Spirit of God which is LOVE. John 13:34-35 compare to 1John 4:8

THIS IS PURE LIES FROM THE PIT OF HELL.

To be saved this is what the scripture says "Only Jesus has the power to save! His name is the only one in all the world that can save anyone." - Acts 4:12

Only people using by the Devil can comfortable telling lies against God and His Word as you people do.

That's what in the name of the father and the son and the Holy Spirit means! Matthew 28:19

Can you imagine this nonsense conclusion?

1 Corin 1:2: To God's church in Corinth. Christ Jesus chose you to be his very own people, and you worship in his name, as we and all others do who call him Lord. - CEV

to the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be saints together with all those in every place who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours: - Mounce

The challenge is to provide a verse like this in the New Testament about Jehovah.

MightySparrow:
MaximumSide of delusional nonsense.

That old soldier is deluded.
JW. Org reduces intelligent people to dummies.

Even lying shamelessly is another thing.

designguru:
I don't think so.

Ok, it's like you're into construction!

MaxInDHouse:
OK it must come from Watchtower.

Chai faithless miscreants and their life!

If it's from Watchtower they will object but now that i'm showing him from the scriptures he wants it to come from Watchtower.

If they didn't stop how come no religion is practicing it today among all those claiming Christians?

Àbí it continue yet no religion is practicing it today except Jehovah's Witnesses who don't share money at our meetings?

Damage control!

Medicine after death....

The key issues is that you later succumbed to the fact that what they did was an act of GENEROSITY instead of the heretic teachings.

Bury your empty head in shame.

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MaxInDHouse:
Your agitation means nothing to me if you're asking a thought provoking question i will teach you what you should know.

The evidence is here on who is agitating.

Did they sell their properties?
YES!
Did they contribute to assist themselves?
YES!
Was it a generous act on the part of donors?
YES!

Now the lying liar has agreed that it's a GENEROUS ACT

So why did they stop it after the death of Annanias and Saphiras?

Provide your evidence that it was stopped after the death of Ananias and Sapphiras.

Because they're not supposed to share money rather it's what they needed for the ministry that should go round in order for everyone to participate in the work Jesus assigned to them joyful!

Delusion!

It was stated clearly that the couple died FOR LYING against God's Holy Spirit like watchtower and you are doing today not because they share money.

So, it was never EVIL and of flesh.

Just provide where watchtower taught this your heretic teachings.

Is that hard for you to do?

MaxInDHouse:
In the first century immediately after the death of Annanias and Saphiras they stopped it then in our time God's Holy Spirit directed us to do the right thing which is donating just as they donated but this time around it's what we need for the ministry that is shared equally not money unlike the mistake they made back then.
Imagine if it was things needed for the ministry that was shared back then do you think the couple will long for it especially when they knew it won't make them richer materially?
But let's say you know any group today where you can just take 20k to their meetings and return with 200k will you ever miss such a gathering?
Even if they're lying about God most people will attend for the money involved.
That's what they got wrong which has now been corrected due to NEW LIGHT!

Lies upon lies

Well your organisation says their acts is generous and I'll only take you serious if you produce where watchtower taught this your heretic teaching.

The same God's Holy Spirit who told you that I'm using three different moniker on Nairaland

Always lying in the name of God's Holy Spirit.

MaxInDHouse:
Not sharing money at meetings!

When was that stop and who was sharing thing at the meeting?

MaxInDHouse:
The original Hebrew writing doesn't include the alphabet "J" which means the name Jesus is inappropriate.

Do you agree?

Olodo....

Jehovah is a coined name by a Catholic mock

While Jesus: It is a Hebrew name which has been transliterated into Greek as Iesous (Ἰησοῦς: pronounced "ee-ay-SUS". The English "Jesus" comes from the Latin transliteration of the Greek name into the Latin Iesus.

The fact is, watchtower even knows that Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah

MaxInDHouse:
Keep waiting for more lies yet you know where to get the truth shey?

Funny atheists!

The brothers started that thing but it wasn't well planned like what we does today instead of sharing the money we use it to get things all members will benefit from for instance Bibles, publications, relief materials, Kingdom Halls and many more.
Sharing money to make everyone equal is what is evil because Jesus said we will always have the poor with us {Mark 14:7} therefore we can always help by getting the things they need to continue serving our God with joy like the rest of the brothers. 2Corinthians 8:14

So both of you are wrong that's why you can't find a single religion where people sell their properties only to bring the money and start sharing equally among themselves.

That's what they got wrong back then but today Jesus used God's Holy Spirit to direct his disciples on how to make use of such funds.

You can still ask your friends to help you in finding any religion claiming Christians that's sharing money equally among themselves today if you don't believe what i'm telling you now after all they claimed they're also Christians!

Lying liar jws like his father the Devil.

Your organisation called what the Apostles did as an act of generosity and you're still here defending lies from your perverted brain.

On that thread you evil claim your organisation has STOPPED THAT EVIL ACT.

Now, you're claiming they started it but it wasn't well planned like what we does today.

Sharing money equal wasn't to pull anybody out of POVERTY but to show their unbiased mind towards everyone. It's never EVIL and not what Jesus spoke about when He said we will always have the poor with us.

So how come you claimed your organisation HAD STOPPED IT then but now claiming it was only modified now?

You see why your lying mouth can't have the truth.

Below is where you said your organisation STOPPED the practice and what Jesus never taught.

So, how can you now claiming you're doing what Jesus never taught?

MaxInDHouse:
OK nah!

That's it as your lies got exposed.

MaxInDHouse:
Well if he's ready to chat on the topic i'm still very much around but not for you or talking to the air. It's cowardly throwing stones and later run into hiding expecting others to come and fight for you.
So if he's sure of what he typed MaxInDhouse is here!

Nonsense and ingredients.

If you're serious you'd have refuted his claim in the first place instead of wishing him death.

Or even did a little background check by clicking his profile to know his 'last seen on Nairaland' but you're not that intelligent, so you don't know.

Wishing him death is the height of your sadistic nature.

MaxInDHouse:
Since 8 years ago and he couldn't engage the same JW who wants to reason with him?

Blind man.

You didn't see where he tagged many Jws?

In case you don't know the moniker Jman05 is well known Jws that time and I think he deactivated his account about 1-2years ago.

Surely the spirit with wish the OP started the thread is dead otherwise the way he started there's nothing stopping him from engaging a member of the organization he accused if he's truly sure of what he typed 8 years ago!

Rubbish, we already know your intentions, you wish the OP dead stop spewing thrash.

MaxInDHouse:
Until he or she quotes me i can't agree that life is still in him or her!

That you are even more concern about the OP death is a serious issue.

Why do you wish the OP death?

Well the OP just reply @achorladey this morning Check HERE

So jws are now wishing those who exposed their false doctrine death.

Janosky:
"No Pastor in CHRISTENDOM is ALL knowing."
Pastorpreneurs admitted they taught false doctrines to gullible sheeples.

Kumuyi their Lord AMENDED tithe doctrine.

WAILING HYPOCRITE miscreants exposed by screenshots.

That means there's no difference between Pastors of Christendom and Watchtower

JaNosense will forget he brought the comparison

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously this OP is no more!

Waoooo even wishing the OP is dead

Well the OP is still very much alive and doing great.

Meanwhile, why can't you refute what the OP said?

ChristianFreedo:
"A religion that teaches lies cannot be true"
Watchtower, December 1, 1991 ....

Thus was the statement of the Watchtower in 1991..
So then. Lets see if the religion of the Watchtower is true. Below are just a few of the statements they have made as the "TRUTH" and the rank and file of Russelites are expected to accept from the prophts themseves,

This is a case of rubbing oil on your body and set it on fire

Caramia2020:
12 billion!!! I'm short of words. Is this money not enough to open small manufacturing company that will employ up to 500 or 1,000 people? Looting galore.

If ₦5m are to be given to SME in that state of ₦12B it will be 2,400 beneficiaries.

If it's just only the director working in the company, that's over 2,000 workers.

Just that Nigeria leaders don't know how to create wealth.

Michael547:
Jesus himself Said in John 12:49 that his 'father' sent him to the earth. So why would Jesus obey such a command and refer to God as father if he himself was not a son in heaven before coming to the earth?

Now where in John 12:49 that Jesus made that statement, stop injecting your word into God's word.

Here is John 12:49 " For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken."

1 cor 15:28 that you quoted earlier clearly states what Jesus would do in heaven and refers to him as a 'son' handing over the kingdom to 'God' and 'father'.
Did Jesus ever deny himself being a son in heaven?

Jesus became A Son when He came to earth and He is still a Son now reason why the Trinity formula was formulated.

So how are we to understand the plurality of the one God spoken of in the old testament?

That is very simple, it simply means God can manifest in many ways He wants and He still won't stop to be God.

Now answer my question, can God appears in 36 states of Nigeria AT ONCE and still be IN HEAVEN?

Michael547:
Oga that statement is direct and clear. Why must there always be an hidden meaning in every of you guys statement? So you that claim that Jesus was not an Almighty God on earth still have an hidden message in that statement?

If it's so, then no need for him to came up with the second statement.

You see how it sweet as you are asking your questions and I'm replying accordingly but when I ask my own don't turn your blind eyes and pretend you didn't see it.

Michael547:
So if the word God applies to the three, why is the statement 'God the son' and 'God the holy spirit' wrong?

It's wrong as it make it confusing as if They are THREE DIFFERENT GODS, reason why you used DISTINCT GODS(plural) earlier.

Lol...oga how does the old testament describe God?

The OT described God as someone who sit in heaven but also can be on earth or any other part in the universe, the OT also talks about plurality of ONE GOD and also The OT says God CREATED everything ALL BY HIMSELF.

Are you insinuating that God the Father, the Son and holy spirit is not revealed in the old testament?

It's not but the idea that God can manifest in many ways were stated in the OT.

You have still not told me how the father has a higher rank in heaven oo. If he does not have, how come Jesus is given the title 'son' in heaven?

Jesus only became SON on earth which means Jesus was never a SON in heaven.

Can you provide the scripture where Jesus was given the TITLE 'SON' IN HEAVEN?

Michael547:
Oga you are confused....somebody said Jesus was both Almighty God and man while on earth and you are still defending the person. Are you guys not funny? Where does someone start understanding this your trinity from?

You're the confused one here!

Did he make any post after that to clarify or you asked him what he meant by that?

So you don't conclude on something until you get clarification on the position of the person.

Trinity is very simple to understand, that you are looking for it to be false is where the problem lies.

My advice is always put on your thinking cap when reading a post not just to rush and reply, if you don't understand the point nothing wrong in saying 'please clarify what you mean here or there'.

Michael547:
Ok....in your screenshot you agreed that there Is God the Father, the Son and holy Spirit(the son and holy spirit are not referred to as God in heaven) according to you.

My usage of God is that it applies to the THREE not the way you put it as "God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit"

You also quoted 1 cor 15:28 that says that Jesus would hand over to the father that 'God may be all in all'. Does that mean that the son and the Holy Spirit would no longer be identified? And that we would only have the father?

You're still asking the same question using different format.

The answer is in the screenshot you provided before check it again.

Michael547:
Oga stop saying what you don't know. Here is evidence below.

He said this: "Since Jesus is both God and man, the father is greater than him as a man.
The father is not in the flesh, so it does not apply to him."

If you don't understand what he said, why can't you ask him for further clarification instead of jumping into conclusion on what he didn't say?

That's why your screenshot is different from what you said before.

Michael547:
Oga that question was not directed at you....it is directed at your fellow Trinitarians, Mr truthhurts and mr steep, who have been surprisingly contradicting your own understanding of the trinity saying that Jesus was Almighty God on earth.

They never contradicted me, check your understanding of their post well.

Michael547:
Ok oo mr Modifier......what is the structure of the Trinity in heaven now?

The answer was already in the second screenshot you provided in full, check and stop going backward.

Michael547:
How come the only Almighty true God who is Jesus says that the father is greater than him in John 14:28. And that he does not know the hour of Judgment in Matt 24:36?

You're still repeating this nonsense after you have been provided with Phil 2:7

Michael547:
Here is the full screenshot....where did you deny the presence of a 'son' in heaven?

I've modified my post read it again.

With that I never used the phrase "...in heaven"

Just admit you inserted that by yourself.