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ImmaculateJOE:
How many MW will it take power 1000 household that have all the basics amenities.

Well technology has greatly improved and many households appliances don't require much power nowadays.

For instance, an energy saving bulb is rated around 5-7w, let's assume a house has 30 of them that's just around 210w going with 7w. Compare this with when bulb were rated as 60w, 100w & 200w.

Also, many appliances are now using INVERTED technology which is replacing transformer with high power rated transistor, that's why you can see a deep freezer around 100w instead of above 200w before.

Now let's do the calculation: No matter how the household may consume electricity, I don't think it can be more than 20KW.

So that means, a 1000 households only require 20MW even if we increase it to 30KW it's still very low.

And how many MW will it take to power about 100 average industries..?

The same factors above applied to the industries only that industries need more power for machineries and probably more Air Conditioning (AC).

With this, let's assume an average industry needs about 300KW that's still around 30MW for 100 average industries.

So as the experts say that Aba will only need 92MW is not far from the truth.

I'm even sure that there is future expansion of households and industries in that 92MW.

tctrills:
Keep writing nonsense.
Nigeria has more farmers than the US and the EU combined yet much more hunger. Have you asked yourself why there is more poverty in the rural farming communities than in the towns and cities?

That's is the question they failed to ask and still believe more educated people should go into farming.

yemmit90:
You lacks comprehensive skill, that is the only problem I saw in your replies. It is quite òbvious you don't understand anything from the post.

When it's obvious you're the one who lack the depth index of the subject matter.

Let me break it down in a lay man understanding for you. The way educated people think back then is completely different from the way we believes in education now. They see farming as culture or necessary channel to eat healthy, they do their jobs like us, they are professional like us, they are expert like us, they concentrate on their jobs like us, they works in offices, they have careers like us, just that they only embrace backyards farming as a culture and means of eating from mother earth, which eventually translated to less pressure on our food supply.

That method didn't reduce any pressure on our food supply, that is why we can see the effect today.

And I've given many instances to support my point.

Educated people don't need to plant in their backyard.

Go back to my very first post you quoted and read with understand mind again. I stated it clearly that we can no longer follow the same pattern, because the present educated people( even uneducated ones) abhorred farming or anything related to it.

The point in correcting you for is at the @underlined, that statement is very very wrong. Educated people should focus on their field of study that's how the economy can be diversified.

I therefore suggested that FG should try to empower each local governments for serious farm business that will ensure mass production, because FG can't achieve her aims and objectives by doing them directly.

I believe we both agreed on this.

In conclusion, it is not actually bad if you have few stands of pepper, tomatoes, orange, pawpaw and plantain, on unused land in your compound. These plants have their purpose to serve in your environment and your health, and I am 100% certain you will know the importance of this in your 60's.

It's not bad but it can never address food shortage.

RevenuesBoost:
This is the problem
Everyone believes that not everyone should plant and everyone ends up not planting at all.
That's why there's hunger in Nigeria right now

The reason why there's hunger in the land is because people have been planting in their backyard all this while and that isn't sustainable.

What we need is a modern mechanised farming that is sustainable, can provide surplus food and jobs opportunity.

yemmit90:
Is like you don't get the point, no one say educated people must embrace farming as business, the Idea is to have something planted on your free land at backyard.

I understood your point quite well, and I'm telling you that EDUCATED PEOPLE don't need to plant in their back yard.

Just a modern mechanisation method of agriculture across just 20 states in Nigeria is enough to feed Nigerians. The lies that people should start planting at the back yard isn't comfomed with modern age.

The idea that educated people must not do anything other than handling pens in offices is a total misinformed basis tenet of education.

It's not misinformation rather you're the ignorant one for thinking that way.

Yes! Educated people should focus on what they study in school which will help them to break even and expand more.

Agriculture alone can't drive the economy and any nation that her farmers are more than half of her population is poor.

Those that farm at their backyards then were never illiterates, they just see backyard farming as culture and necessity to eat healthy vegetables and fruits.

And where did it lead us as a country today?

That they did, doesn't mean it's the best.

If more mechanised farming has been embraced then, we won't be where we are today.

If you were a little bit mature in 80's, and 90's, you won't be talking like this. People has backyard farms irrespective of their education level or where they work. I knew alot of professors who has farms at their backyard then. No one is ashame of doing that, go and ask mature people from 70's to year 2000, and be informed better. Many honorable state house of assembly members, local governments chairmen and lot of politicians too has backyard farms back then. Virtually all civil servants has backyard farms or remote ones if they don't own land.

It's evident you're ignorant of the subject matter.

It was even the Russian/Ukraine war that led many Ukrainian into farming which is just about 14% of their population.

Currently, USA number of farmers are reducing since 2000.

India has just about 8% of her population as farmers.

So, it's not until every dick and Harry embrace agriculture that food will be surplus.

I am not advocating for subsistence farming or suggested that everyone must have farm at their backyard, reason I said FG must fund agriculture at local governments level to achieve optimum results in my previous post.

You're advocating for substantial farming and everyone should farm. Why changing your mouth on what you type in black and white?

Yes! FG must be the one to fund agriculture either through the state government or loacl.

Let me shock you, I read an interview of Tinubu sometimes in 2008 shortly after he left office, he was talking about how Nigeria can be sufficient in food supply and provide jobs and he used POULTRY farming as example.

As in, if Nigeria wants to have surplus of eggs, FG should consider giving every Nigerians 1 eggs per day. He then goes further to ask, can you imagine how many number of poultry farm that will need to be set up in other to give each Nigerian 1 eggs per day?

Do you know how many people those poultry farms will employ?

Now, the reason I brought this up is because, he didn't talk about every educated people to start rearing fowls in other to be sufficient in eggs as individual farming can't create any job opportunity and surplus of food.

But mechanisation method of farming will provide sufficient food and a lot of job opportunities.

Think about the storage facility required, number of machineries, manpower needed e.t.c

RevenuesBoost:
Most people planting in large scale make use of farm machineries.

And this is what we need not what you said below.

No matter how educated you are, you need food to survive.
This is a state of food emergency for Nigerians and the solution is farming.

Yes the solution is farming but not by every dick and Harry.

Statistic shows population of USA farmers are declining which is just about 2 millions that's is less than 1% of USA population.

India farmers are about 150 millions which is just about 8% of India population.

Ukraine that provided aids to Nigeria has less than 1 million as farmers.

So I repeat Nigeria don't need millions of farmers but millions of mechanised farming method.

Nigeria needs millions of farmers as well as millions of modernized farming methods.

If you can't plant in large scale, have a small garden.
If you don't have a land, use sacs

Let's have this food in surplus so we can export it to other countries and that will also help our economy.

We still import food till now.
We still import green apples when our lands are good enough for red apples.

Food is part of essential of life no doubt about that but food isn't the only items needed to run economy.

The lies that Nigeria needs more farmers is stale and aren't conformed with modern method of agriculture.

yemmit90:
Though we can't experience the same pattern now because alot are educated and detest farming so much. State and local governments authorities should start encourage big farming by providing necessary equipment, security and seeds to intending farmers. This is the only way we can solve problem of food crises in Nigeria. Federal government is too far to achieve the same objective, because the provision will always be hijacked before reaching the real farmers. Local governments should be empowered by FG to start serious farming business in their jurisdiction .

I don't know where you people get the idea of educated people MUST enter farm.

If majority of educated people enter farm, what will happen to other sectors of the economy?

The truth is, Nigeria as a country don't need millions of farmers rather millions of modernize farming method.

94% of Egypt is a desert which means Egypt only has about 6% arable land yet account for most production of soya beans and others products.

Kobojunkie:
1. It is against the declaration of God to Add, Remove, or even change any of His commandments and teachings — God's Law. You set Paul up as someone who did all that and more, and here you ask me how any of that is against God?

Since you claim Paul did all these.

Do you then agree that Paul can't be of Christ and can't be chosen by Christ, which then mean all Paul teachings should be rejected?

jesusjnr2020:
I'm not surprised about this because I know how obssessed many Christians were with Paul, he's taken the place of Christ in their lives as their lord, savior and holy spirit, so anyone who dares points out the error in his teachings would be called all sorts of names, including antichrist, satanic agent, and now a Muslim.

I heard the preacher make a very valid point that Christians should be take priority in what Jesus says, not Paul or anyone else. I mean, how is that supposed to make someone to be called a Muslim by someone who claims to be a christian?

You've been repeating this lies often and often yet when you are asked questions, you will turn a blind eyes to it.

Paul wrote all his letters to the CHURCHES in various places.

Do you think Christ will fold His hands and allowed Paul to teach ERRORS to His Churches without correction?

You can't eat your cake and also have it, if you agreed that it was Christ who called Paul then you must accept ALL HIS TEACHINGS as THAT OF CHRIST which is the position of ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS but saying Jesus called Paul but Paul taught ERROR is to deny the authority of Christ in Paul's teachings.

Dtruthspeaker:
There is no misunderstanding here. This is just an example of because of guilt

People see what they want to see and what people want to see never has anything to do with the truth. R. Bolano

Exactly like a criminal who must wish that Criminal Law has been abolished and therefore he will hang on anyone who says criminal law has been abolished even if it is fake news, but he no go gree.

There is actually, if not people will not just focus on the word 'ABOLISH' alone and neglected the real one which is 'FULFILL'.

Firstly, you don't FULFILL law rather you obey law.

Secondly, if the above is true then, one can deduce that Jesus wasn't talking about over 600 laws given to the Israelites.

Thirdly, in line of this, it is more evident that when Christ says he didn't come to ABOLISH but rather to FULFILL then it must be everything written about HIM and how the rest have their true meaning in the messianic works.

Lastly, this is exactly how Christ Himself put it after resurrection.

"He said to them, ‘How foolish you are, and how slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Christ have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?’ And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself. ... He said to them, ‘This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.’ Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. Luke 24:25-27, 44-45

Jackanda1:
Who said the holy spirit is a force. He's a person.

The person I quoted said so and also agreed Holy Spirit can SPEAK as you read from his post.

Isn't that confusion?

MaxInDHouse:
So a Christian who has been baptized with the spirit of God will later turn back and say God doesn't exist?

But your organisation holds the belief that A Born Again brother can be replaced and the reason why the ruling class calling of 144,000 hasn't completed since the time of the early church.

Someone who has experienced the spirit speaking to him or her will just wake up one day and say God doesn't exist!

So an active force can SPEAK to people

Is this mistake or what?

Kobojunkie:
He was? The very same Paul whose letters contain less than 0.1% of the actual teachings of Jesus Christ was ahead of Jesus Christ and the revelations of God's Truth that Jesus Christ had?

He never said this and you just put those words in his mouth.

I can imagine Paul rolling in his grave and maybe wishing he had never sent out any letters. He probably wished he had burned all copies instead because the filth spewed in his name by the people of this foreign religion that is far from Jesus Christ must be had to stomach. Paul, like all others, is in his grave awaiting the return of Jesus Christ and eventual judgment but look at men worshipping him like he was some god.

Here you're trying to be clever by half.

If Paul's teachings contain Christ messages, why should Paul be thinking of burning them?

Was it only Paul letters you believe people misunderstanding?

So, should other Apostles be rolling in their grave and thinking of burning their own writing as people can't stomach them?

Dtruthspeaker:
i have told him several times that Tje Law. was never abolished rather Christ brought it back since the jews threw it away. And thst paul is a lawyer telling us that Christ brought The Law back that "end of Law" means destination and purpose in Law and not termination/finish as laymen will think.

I think the understanding here is the usage of the word 'abolished' Christ Himself said he didn't come to abolish but to fulfill that is: I didn't come to begin set a new law for God's redemption and plan for the people but rather I'm bringing out the true meaning of already laws in place and fulfil them in my person.

Qasim6:
Concerning your statement about the law of Moses been abolished, I just want to know other than the writings of Paul are there other source for that?

Abolishment as used by Paul is the consummation of the old law in Christ.

That is bringing out the TRUE MEANING of the law as Christ fulfilled them.

Because I believe Jesus said he has not come to abolish the law but to fulfill the law and also I know the other Apostles continue to follow the law after Jesus left the scene.[/quota]

Yes! And this is what Paul actually taught.

Fulfillment of the law in Christ Jesus.

Jesus didn't abolished the law but brought its true meaning/fulfilment in His life style, suffering, crucifixion, death, atonement and resurrection.

[quote]If the knowledge of abolishment was revealed to Paul, Why didn't Paul tell the apostles about the abolishment of the law when he was summoned to Jerusalem concerning him telling people not to follow the law. He was even asked to do some religious rites to show to people he follows the law and he obliged

The funny thing is, it was Apostle Peter that Jesus Himself first taught about consummation of the old law in the vision of the sheet being led down from heaven which is called a "Dietary fulfilment"

[quote author= post=128726448]Wtf is he [/quote]He is a par to your darling president and don't forget he was at Dubai climate submit too.

So let your prayer for the enemies of this nation starts now.

Sand2022:
This will all happen when he comes in the future, not 1914. The major problem of JW is 1914. It is said that one theological error leads to another

This is the key!

One certain thing is that 1914 has no historical and scriptural backing, so anything build on it will continue to be false!

jesusjnr2020:
Already knew you would never accept whatever anyone else says about the errors in teachings of Paul no matter how obvious they were, because of how obsessed you are with Paul and blindly follow his teaching as was typical of any Paulian.

The fact you'll never accept because of your evil mind towards God's word and Jesus Christ is that, If Paul's teaching contains any error, it's the duty of the person who called and made him Apostle to the Gentile to correct him.

So if Jesus allowed Paul's teaching that contains error stay without a single correction shows Jesus is not up to the task.

That's why i chose not to oblige you prior to this.

It doesn't erase the fact that, you couldn't answer my questions which is the reason you just repeating yourself over and over again.

However in this particular case it was Paul that said himself that his teaching did not emanate from God

Understanding is the key here and the reason why I provided different translations.

That you lack the understanding of what Paul said in that verse isn't anybody's fault.

so i expected that you should at least accept what he said himself because of the highest of the highest of respect you have for him

Yes I respect Paul but my highest respect goes to the very person who called Paul to service and I'm 💯% trust in Him that He can't allow Paul teaches error.

but most unfortunately you rejected his own teaching because it goes against your erroneous belief that all his teachings came from God.

I didn't and that's why I will keep saying that you lack the understanding of Paul statement which I even helped you with other translations. I didn't produce those translations and you saw the truth in them but decided to turn a blind eyes.

So if you don't believe it when Paul says it himself, is it mine you will believe?

I believe what Paul wrote and I repeat it's your lack of understanding that leads to your erroneous interpretation.

Finally i leave you with his teaching which clearly exposes your blatant hypocrisy, believe it or not.

I Corinthians 7:12 (KJV)

But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

I didn't deny anything here but many versions of the holy scriptures simplified it better so I'll leave them here for simple comprehension.

AMP: To the rest I declare—I, not the Lord [since Jesus did not discuss this]—that if any [believing] brother has a wife who does not believe [in Christ], and she consents to live with him, he must not leave her.

CEB: I’m telling everyone else (the Lord didn’t say this specifically): If a believer has a wife who doesn’t believe, and she agrees to live with him, then he shouldn’t divorce her.

CEV: I don't know of anything else the Lord said about marriage. All I can do is to give you my own advice. If your wife isn't a follower of the Lord, but is willing to stay with you, don't divorce her.

ERV: The advice I have for the others is from me. The Lord did not give us any teaching about this. If you have a wife who is not a believer, you should not divorce her if she will continue to live with you.

Seek understanding!

MaxInDHouse:
He knows nothing apart from exchange of hurtful words so once i've beaten him smartly i will just leave him to continue agitating at least Moses and Jesus admitted they were SENT by someone GREATER than them and their friends realized that they are serving the one who SENT them as SERVANTS.

Ọmọ that's enough for stubborn churchgoer!

See lie at the @bold

Look at the words your deluded brother has used on this thread in reply to my post (MUMU, Your stupidity) and provide where I used any words that is hurtful like his own.

If at all my words are hurtful to you, it means the truth in them are hitting you hard.

Aemmyjah:
Ok na
MUMU
Moses best friend called him God's servant
Jesus closest friends called him God's servant

Go and correct them

Your stupidity is getting poisonous to you really. It is so high that you can't reach it
Bye
If you like mention me a million times, I won't answer you

Smile...see a bitter soul!

If Moses and Jesus closest friends called them God's servants you said so not to 'LIE' that Jesus ADMITTED it.

Even though you're just using panadol on top of someone's headache. The person who made that claim couldn't support his claim with Bible and has given up upon his lies and you that want to die on top the same issue couldn't provide any verse to back it up.

This is really giving you people severe pain.

Aemmyjah:
Ok
Sincere believers accept what the Bible says
Disciples of God prayed to God through his holy servant and he answered them.
You cannot invalidate
Either they said nonsense or you're just too stupid to understand anything

Once your frustration has ended just show me where Jesus ADMITTED it.

If you people can even lie against The Father Himself who else you can't lie against.

Aemmyjah:
John wrote regrading Jesus that the father his greater than him

His disciples prayed regarding Jesus, that he is God's holy servant

In combination, Jesus is the holy servant of one greater than him, Jehovah God.

Fullstop

You just agreed with me that Jesus NEVER ADMITTED it.

Aemmyjah:
Keep contradicting the Bible na

Point out the contradictions.

hakeemhakeem:
According to Islam Satan was among the Powerful angels working with God, alone the line he went against the command of Allah and condemned him.

The name Satan means 'Opposition' 'Accuser' 'Adversary'

So, if Allah actually created an Opposition and the person carried out the very purpose of being created (by going against the command of Allah), why will Allah condemn the person for doing the very thing he was created for?

A single cell that contains billions of instructions, far more complex than even the most supercomputer we have today and packed in a space of 20-30nm is considered a work of random event while a supercomputer chips that is less complex and packed in 16X16mm silicon wafer are considered to be a work of genius and intelligent designer.

God is truly wonderful!

Tap0lane:
You igbos hate the fact that you are being called out for your foolishness. Why not own your foolish hate on Tinubu with your full chest instead of hiding behind this you senseless excuse

It's evident that you're the hater here not Igbo because my post never even mention any tribe.

My advice:

God didn't create you to hate

Don't allow politicians turn you to hater and tribalistic.

I'm not an Igbo for your information!

Tap0lane:
Many of you Igbos have no idea how pathetic you sound with all this your senseless n foolish hate

If you have not mentioned the name Igbo, your body won't come down.

And anyone who criticized your Lord and saviour is automatically an Igbo.

Very pathetic!

The deed has been done already!

Aemmyjah:
Mumu
How then did we know Jesus made the statement Luke and Paul wrote?

Jesus did not ADMIT that He was a SERVANT of someone greater than Him.

Just proof me wrong by providing where Jesus ADMITTED it. How is that hard for you?

Aemmyjah:
Who has problem?

You of course!

Explain how someone can be someone son, equal to the same person and be the same person. Make sense of your nonsense

First of all, I don't know where you people get the idea that Jesus is the same person as the Father. This shows that you people don't know much about Trinity.

Secondly, the day you people will be able to distinguish between when scripture speaks about Jesus Christ before He became part of Creations and when Jesus was never part of Creations, is the day your journey to acknowledge scriptural truth begins.

Thirdly, scripture speaks sparingly about Jesus when He was not part of creation and more when He became part of creations.

Lastly, Jesus was not called Son of God not until He became part of Creation.

Now you'll see those who already praised the president for the sanction will now be praising him again.

Aemmyjah:
Also confirmed is that Jesus is the son of God

Yes!

You said all these
Make everything make sense na

That's why I told you, if you want me to explain then tell me your problem first