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Maximus692:
Highlighted is a misconception the brothers didn't sell all their possessions rather wealthy ones among those who traveled to Jerusalem sold properties they can give away in that city to assist their brothers so the poor ones also sold whatever they can give away bring it to the Apostles to be shared equally among them for those in need to return home with something. Act 4:32-37

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are still doing that today that's why you can see that we all have the Bibles and other publications free our Halls are built through the contributions of wealthy brothers in many countries who have willed their properties to Watchtower after their death such properties are sold to help brothers in poor countries like African so that all of us can have what we need as brothers and sisters.

@Templee333

I want you to read this part of his post very well and compare it with the screenshots attached below.

See how he mentioned what the early Christian did and said Jehovah Witness are doing the same TODAY.

But in the attached screenshot, you'll see the hypocrite claiming that the acts of selling properties and sharing them among early Christians is EVIL, of Flesh and what Jesus never taught anyone.

Then you'll know the kind of person you're dealing with.

cocoduck:
You can never be more wrong!

Here lies the problem with you people.

Understanding the Bible is a gradual process, as time goes on, understanding improves

Understanding of the Bible has been done many years before watchtower comes into the scene.

We already have many commentaries done both by Christians and secular people.

We have interlinear of the scriptures.

Bible has been translated to many languages for easy reading and understanding for the locals

In fact, we even have many English translations for comparison.

So claiming it's a gradual process is dishonesty, just say watchtower is dribbling you people with lies as Ephesians 4:14 informed us.

then changes are made not to the Bible but to our belief.

You're not being honest here.

People are disfellowshipped because of those beliefs. How do you think God will feel when someone was disfellowshipped base on the standard set by men and not Him?

For instance, when watchtower holds the belief that Jesus is to be worshipped, Birthday can be Celebrated e.t.c

But this later changed and called IDOLATRY or PAGAN PRACTICES.

What is the fate of those who died in these beliefs?

Will they be resurrected or forgotten in their graves as people of Christendom?

You see, this is more than just it's about our BELIEF'

I remember during thee COVID 19, when watchtower instructed jws to take COVID vaccine, some people aren't fully in support and a letter was sent to condemned such people.

Today, more than 2/3 of the world population didn't take the vaccine and nothing is happening to them. So, how do you think those who feel they don't need the vaccine among jws should feel?

And why should watchtower be passing instruction from mere men as if it was coming from God directly?

These are the issues and not just OUR BELIEFS.

Janosky:
JWs dey give monthly Report ?

Yes !

Oga continue WAILING.

When the father of lies is your father, then there's no how you won't take after your father.

Templee333 never talked about MONTHLY report but Hourly.

Evidence below on the screenshot and the LINK HERE!

Lying liar jws like his father the Devil.

Meanwhile, reading Templee333 post, he asked for Biblical back up to support the hourly report in which you went ahead to quote several scriptures to proof that God's servants do give REPORT.

Evidence in that link and another screenshot below.

Even a moniker @Tripplechoice engaged you for misrepresentation of the question Templee333 asked.

Check 3rd screenshot.

Now that your gods in Warwick have disgraced you, you want to shift goal post.

Ko Jo rara

Remember I do tell you how stupid you people will be when in few years time New Light keep coming from Warwick after night and day of defending the same thing.

The Holy Spirit of God through the blessed Apostle Paul had warned you jws but you people refused to listen but keep harden your heart.

Ephesians 4:14 "That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive" - KJV

"Then we will no longer be like babies. We will not be people who are always changing like a ship that the waves carry one way and then another. We will not be influenced by every new teaching we hear from people who are trying to deceive us—those who make clever plans and use every kind of trick to fool others into following the wrong way." ERV

"So then, we may no longer be children, tossed [like ships] to and fro between chance gusts of teaching and wavering with every changing wind of doctrine, [the prey of] the cunning and cleverness of unscrupulous men, [gamblers engaged] in every shifting form of trickery in inventing errors to mislead." - AMPC

Tradepunter2:
People into selling of materials are the biggest liars I have ever come across

This is not the fault of people selling but the manufacturers.

The same thing happened in reinforcement, timbers, e.t.c

riczy:
I mean questions about the Faith and not chronological related questions even though I have d answers

1. Did what the Apostles do by selling their properties and share it among themselves what Jesus never approved, things of the flesh or it's completely EVIL?

2. Does the name Christian A bastardised and cursed and the reason Jehovah gave watchtower a New Name?

3. Are Jws also a Christian?

4. There is archeological evidence that Roman Empire used Cross to crucified people and never POLE, how can the same Roman soldiers crucified Jesus on a pole?

5. There is archeological evidence that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587BC and this is the date all historians agreed with, so where does Watchtower get the date that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607BC from?

achorladey:
Bookmarked

After all you said the Devil do influence Jehovah’s organization and members are sinners. Jehovah’s witness girls satisfying their sexual urge will be divorced in no time after the husband cannot match up with their sexual urge no wonder adultery and wife swapping dey in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses


Madness and insanities peddling brains will deny this in future.


Cc: Emusan, Oteneaaron, Courz


Food is ready: kokolet007, Aemmyjah Janosky

The most astonished part is that he doesn't know the implications of what he mostly say sometimes.

Well, since his conscience has been blocked, so for him there's no shame and lying at will it's his power.

If you look at that statement very well, he couldn't condemn the Jws girls' act by bodly called it FORNICATION but just sugar coated it by saying THEY JUST WANT TO SATISFY their sexual urges.

Also, see how he tried to shift the blame from jws girls to the guys they are committing fornication together.

Lastly, one thing is clear from his post, jws are also enjoying the things of the world.

Raalsalghul:
Who dey run this project for you and how you dey monitor?

I have been thinking of starting something along these lines.

I'm a Building Engineer, I can deliver the project for you.

NICOGRAVITY:
I presently live in a 2 storey house that's a 104 years old. The decking is purely wood.
Why don't we result to building with woods and bricks.
Why are we wasting so much money on iron rods.
Can the bamboo carry the heavy weight load and sustain its durability for 30 years?
In building we have to be futuristic, aplly health and safety, and also make sure that used materials are tested and approved.
Be careful not to build cheap today and same building collapse in 30 years time killing you and your loved one's.
Better build a bungalow.

Wood TENSILE STRENGTH is very low and wooden structure has limited height compare to that of reinforced concrete reason why man can build Burj Khalifa and the ongoing Jeddah Tower in Saudi Arabia with a height of over 1,000m.

Lastly, wood can't prevent fire rather adding to it.

Imagine, if the Empire State building in USA was constructed with wood when the Small Bomber jet rammed into it and the jet fuel caused a lot of fire that damage few floors(Decking). It means the Empire State building won't be around today.

Offpoint1:
Bamboo is actually stronger than steel

This is pure misinformation.

Steel is 2.5-3.0 times to bamboo in tensile strength.

But Bamboo is 3-4 times of steel when measured per unit weight.

But remember, structural design and analysis is done using TENSILE STRENGTH not per unit weight.

Also, Nigeria isn't a country where Bamboo can be effectively used for construction because of factors to be considered.

Omihanifa:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/03/high-cost-of-iron-rods-engineers-now-build-with-bamboo/

Any Engineer found using Bamboo should be arrested and his/her certificate withdrawn.

Maximus692:
Guy when i said you are the same person as Courz, Sakody, Achorladey you asked for evidence and i showed you what another person observed.

Now in a simple sentence what exactly did you say JWs did wrong in that post?

Can't you simplify it?

So you only based your false accusation on hearsay.

Very pathetic.

For instance, an observer can say I'm using different moniker when the person sees a moniker like @Emu4life because my email started with Emus4life

Notice: My email has 'S' while the moniker doesn't have.

In fact, the very day I saw that moniker I was so surprised how it almost correlated with my email but one thing I noticed with that moniker is that he is a MUSLIM.

That is why the Bible says 'we should search all things and hold on to the one that is TRUTH.'

Anyway, if you can lie against God's Holy Spirit who else you can't lie against or what lie can't you tell?

Maximus692:
OK nah!

Jesus said woe onto the Pharisees yet one of them Nicodemus came to Jesus secretly saying:

“Rabbi, we know that you have come from God as a teacher, for no one can perform these signs that you perform unless God is with him.” John 3:2

Even when they plotted to kill Jesus Nicodemus stood out differently asking them:

“Our Law does not judge a man unless it first hears from him and learns what he is doing, does it" John 7:51

That shows that out of unbelievers few ones will use their power of reasoning!

Keep shifting the goal posts

kokolet007:
He’s so bitter! All he need is to be truly repentant and go back to Jehovah but instead their arrogant and pride will lead them to more sin. That’s why the Bible said the humble ones will receive Jehovah’s blessings

@Bold - does that mean Jws are sinless?

Maximus692:
The same person:
Court,
oteneaaron,
achorladey

As usual I've already predicted this earlier

I wonder why you didn't add my moniker to the list.

This is the lowest you people can go to when your lies are exposed.

Maximus692:
When Jesus said the world will hate his friends {John 17:14} are his friends from another planet?

Ọmọ it simply means majority as in 99.9% of the inheritants of the earth will hate his friends and say bad things about us but unbiased and sincere individuals will dig deeper to find out what is behind the malicious comments!

Only you quoting Bible only you giving false Data.

Well, you already praised someone that means your assertion is false.

Maximus692:
Our King said we are no part of the world {John 17 :14} so we don't expect the world to say positive things about us nah! Matthew 5:11-12

But you just pointed out someone who says POSITIVE thing about you?

Was the person from heaven?

achorladey:
The ones he saw going to church this morning and every other day go with bombs, guns, cutlasses alongside their Bibles

Or maybe as everyone gets to the church, they started throwing chairs, stick and stone to each other

Maximus692:
Please help me ask him o because these idea of JWs labelled

"PEACEABLE PEOPLE"

Is a matter of serious concern! Matthew 5:14-16

That was his own perspective.

If you go through the thread, you'll know what others also feel about Jws.

So don't just gaslight on this person alone and feel yes that is what the view of other people are.

As usual you turn your blind eyes that you didn't see others negative view about Jws on this same thread but they are there.

Well, you can lie to yourself also by saying it's me or another person using multiple monikers to say all those negative things about Jws.

Mikeloo:
I also know them as peaceable people even though they are not perfect and have some bad "eggs" within too just like any other religion

Is there any Christian denomination that is not PEACEABLE PEOPLE?

kokolet007:
No where jw ever said wearing trousers are sin , we Jehovah’s witnesses wear trousers casually for other formal or informal occasions, people that work in betel and other facilities wears trousers for their daily activities or task but we don’t wear it for our religious activities like meetings or assemblies. And this new update still indicates what’s suit your environment and your conscience. And remember it’s slack and most be considerate corporate.

Do you even understand what you're saying?

Do you think if such isn't consider as sin (like don't wear to the presence of Jehovah), people won't be wearing it to meeting or assembly?

Where is the conscience when you can wear trouser for formal or informal occasion but can't wear it to meeting or assembly? That means it isn't about CONSCIENCE but what the Governing body prevented.

Lastly, is meeting or assembly NOT A FORMAL gathering?

chatinent:
That means you also didn't understand the English rendering...cos nothing as this is biblical either.

So are the new changes made also BIBLICAL BEFORE?

Maximus692:
All these is STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!

Christians must assemble for the preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned to them so if you're not doing so you can't be a Christian!

So are you A Christian?

Maximus692:
It's better you stick to question between only you and i without attaching my religious group because i won't answer a single question that has to do with my group if you will not mention yours!

Smile....

Always with excuse.

The question 'are you Maximum692 A Christian?' Did you answer it? No!

Meanwhile, you keep asking me to tell you my place of worship is laughable.

Do you agree that Emusan isn't @OLAADEGBU again?

because no prominent person on Religion section who doesn't know that @OLAADEGBU is A Deeper Life member including you.

If Emusan isn't the same person as @OLAADEGBU as you stated before, where did you ever admit it? At least, that will show you're not confused. But claiming HOLY Spirit told you something and you keep asking me the same thing Holy Spirit told is nonsense.

Lastly, if you still insisted that both Emusan and @OLAADEGBU are still the same person as Holy Spirit told in that screenshot, aren't you supposed to hold whatever Holy Spirit told you above whatever I'll tell you? At least I know you believe Holy Spirit can't lie.

Anyways, I know you'll keep coming with different excuses but you can't eat your cake and also have it.

Maximus692:
Highlighted is the organization i associate with now mention yours!

My question wasn't directed to Watchtower that was very clear, well maybe you have added eyes problem with the dull brain.

On the other hands, you keep saying I should tell you the church I associated with.

Meanwhile, you are the very one who claimed on this forum that The Holy Spirit of Jehovah told you Maximum692 that Emusan is the same person behind the moniker @OLAADEGBU and you know as well that @OLAADEGBU is a member of Deeper Life. (Even your deluded brother Amemjah or whatever use to called me KUMUYI boy, I think because him too believed your story of what The Holy Spirit of Jehovah to you his brother).

So, are you trying to say The Holy Spirit of Jehovah lied to you?

OR

Do you want to accept that you liked against The Holy Spirit of Jehovah?

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Evidence is below @screenshot

Maximus692:
Who is Watchtower that you keep referring to if not my church?

So what is the name of your own church?

I never asked Watchtower any questions.

1. Are you Maximum692 a Christian?

2. Did you Maximum692 claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?

3. Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications which you Maximu692 was defending?

Maximus692:
Funny Pagan!

Thanks Patron Pagan

If you are not obsessed with my church i won't ask for yours so let each person continue their argument as you've all chosen different teachers for yourselves teaching you things that makes you contradicting yourselves! 2Timothy 4:3-4

Now I'm obsessed with your Hall.

Was it your Hall I asked about being a Christian? No! It was you.

Was it your Hall that claimed the Name Christian is Bastardised and Curses? No! It was you who made that statement and I can even remember bringing your Watchtower teaching about it. Did you agree with Watchtower? No! You still wallow in your ignorance and pride.

Was it your Hall that claimed they have left the name CHRISTIAN for US since Jehovah has given them a new name? No! You did.

Was it your Hall that turn around to swallow its vomit by claiming to be associating with the Bastardised and Curses Name CHRISTIAN? No! You did.

Was it your Hall that claimed on Nairaland that the Apostle also made mistakes to defend itself? No! You're the very one who made that statement.

So you see, it's not obsession about your Hall but the lies you told with bare face.

Well, if you see it as obsession about your Hall, that means you are just displaying the very fruits your organisation deposited in you.

So keep to your broad road where you're allowed to switch lanes as you please! Matthew 7:13-14

I'm happy it's not your broad road and the last time I check you're not Jesus.

Maximus692:
Who are the "WE KNOW"?
Is it those that are arguing, insulting, cursing and abusing one another on doctrines?

No answer shall be given to the unless thou answereth all questions asketh the

Ọmọ let each of your WE KNOW come out to mention the name of their church as you're aware of my own!

You know many people's church here, yet that won't stop you to spew your thrash.

So, it's not about knowing people's church it's just your style of avoiding questions NCOs of your past (your past must very be terrible for you to be afraid of getting it reveal)

Maximus692:
Ọmọ stay on your lane jọọ

I always on my lane jare

i never quoted you in the first place

Lying liar, you've quoted me several times.

so i have nothing to loose if you're not ready to answer all my questions!

And you can't run away from those questions as people will continue to see how coward and liar you are.

1. Are you a Christian?

2. Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?

3. Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?

If you don't have any skeleton in your cupboard towards these questions, you won't keep dodging them all this while.

E get why you are afraid to answer, we know

Maximus692:
OK!

Yeah!

Maximus692:
Hen!

Chicken!

Maximus692:
Good!

Next time don't quote me if you're not ready to answer my question thoroughly!

I always answer your questions thoroughly and it's evident that you're the one who always avoid questions.

So, in academic world you don't answer question with question.

You answer question then proceed to ask your own question.

Well, it's clear that only a dishonest person will avoid questions and started dancing around like headless chicken because he/she knows the pit before him/her.

Not when you're even caught lying bare face like you did just now that when I said: "But you asked me if I'm a Christian and I boldly answered YES!" and you replied with "This is not true that's why i called you a "PAGAN""

You think you're smart but you don't know you're not.

Stop avoiding my questions and started asking me stupid questions.

If you addressed my post and you ask your own question within your reply.

I'll reply your post and make sure I answer any questions in that post.

Maximus692:
This is not true that's why i called you a "PAGAN"

Lying liar Jws like his father the Devil.

The screenshot below is the evidence that you asked me if I'm a Christian and my reply.

If you're truly sincere then which of all the different religions contradicting themselves in teachings and doctrines is the true Christian group?
Only a pagan at heart will dismiss that question

You can see people arguing, insulting and cursing one another on doctrines because of the different teachers they had so which one is saying the truth about Christianity?

When Jesus walked the earth he distinguished between PAGANS and BELIEVERS that pagans only follow the crowd by mimicking whatever others say but believers stand firm on the truth and stay clear away from falsehood because falsehood leads to confusion. John 17:8-23

Now if you want to argue about the meaning of PAGAN you are free but the truth remains that paganism is lack of faith in God so pagans only follow permissiveness so that there won't be any restraint in whatever they choose to do.
Christians in Bible times do disfellowship anyone who is not living by the standard they all agreed upon which means there can't be more than one group as they won't allow for interfaith.
So which among all these religions claiming Christians do you worship with and what convinced you that they're the only true Christian group?
If you don't want to answer it's OK by me but if you do then i will answer you!

All these just to run away from my questions.

Well, I won't give you that opportunity.

Like I do say, you people will cunningly avoid questions thrown to you but will be expecting someone to answer your questions. That's not smartness that's stupidity.

Now answer the questions I've been asking you since and if you can't answer then find another thread to continue your mumbo jumbo

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1. Are you a Christian?

2. Did you claim Apostles made mistakes the same way Watchtower made mistake?

3. Was the mistake the apostles made appears in their teachings the same way watchtower mistake full their publications?

These are the questions I've been repeating more than 5 times.