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Gloriawinning:
I'm a Christian but Islam is truly a religion of Peace, they live peacefully amongst themselves and religion is a way of life.
To answer your question, Muslim nations are that way because of how they are genetically created, when their lineage was born the bible described Ishmeal as being a tough problematic child. The generations of Ishmael till now are tough people it is good in some way but the uncivilised ones are quick to anger .
Islam religion has nothing to do with terrorism, it's the individual .
Muslims are better people than Pentecostals because we lack discipline. I.e in my church there are people who will judge you, look down on you, pride, gossips & greed. On the other hand Muslims will share there last resources with you and they love the Lord (Allah) more than anything. So let's respect each other's religion & not think we are better. I am a proud follower of Christ still, and I have my strong convictions.
(Jesus is Lord!!)

Do you really know the meaning of the word "peace " ?

Where you have like 95% Christians , you can call Jesus a fake prophet or even curse him in the church openly , no christian will kill you for it .
But can you call Muhammad a fake prophet in the midst of Muslims without being slaughtered ?

You can burn the Bible openly among the Christians and no one would touch you , but can you burn the Quran without being killed on the spot ?

That is how to know a religion that seeks peace , pursues peace and live peaceful lives with their neighbours .

The Boko haram and the killings perpetrated by the Fulani herdsmen are enough proofs for you to know that Islam is FAR and very FAR from being called a religion of peace.

Even their quean hadith teach violence and hatred .

Hosea 4:6 KJV
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, .....

That is the case of this woman and her congregations .

How are you sure the Quran was sent by God?

Have you ever taking your time to read the Quran , so as to know whether it was from God or man?

How can this kind of book come from a Holy God?

For example :

Allah SWT says:

وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِىٓ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِى فِى نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشٰىهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضٰى زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنٰكَهَا لِكَىْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِىٓ أَزْوٰجِ أَدْعِيَآئِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا
"And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 37)


To me , this is Muhammad's own revelation to justify his evil deed of marrying his adopted son's wife .

I want you to pray for God to open your heart to know the truth.

@Godisreal.

It is like you don't understand the issue of salvation , which is a determinant of your eternity . If it was cleared to you , you wouldn't be playing the game of accept and reject with the Bible. It is either you take the Bible facts as correct or you take the whole as being wrong.

For example , Gen 17: 20 you gave as a defence that God called Muhammad is enough evidence for you to discard Islam. But as expected of a typical Muslim , you tried to twist the truth as though it is going to change the fact . Why did you not consider the immediate verse b4 and after it? It is because you don't know what eternity in hell or heaven means.

What was this covenant about ?
It was a covenant of SALVATION to be a God to the Israelites and the whole world forever :

Genesis 17:2-8 KJV
And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.
[3] And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,
[4] As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of MANY NATIONS.
[5] Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many NATIONS have I made thee.
[6] And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
[7] And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
[8] And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

THIS LAND OF CANAAN IS KNOWN, AS AT TODAY, AS ISRAEL AND ISRAEL IS A NATION AND NOT NATIONS.
WHOSE LINEAGE DID GOD SAY HE WOULD ESTABLISH THE COVENANT WITH ? ISAAC or ISHMAEL?

Genesis 17:18-21 KJV
And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee!
[19] And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name ISAAC : and I will establish my COVENANT with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him.
[20] And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.
[21] But my covenant will I establish with ISAAC, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.

WHERE IN THE BIBLE DID GOD PROMISE TO ESTABLISH HIS COVENANT WITH ISHMAEL?
IS GREATNESS NOT DIFFERENT FROM SALVATION?
WERE THERE NO GREAT NATIONS IN THE WORLD WHO WERE IDOL WORSHIPPERS? EXAMPLE :

Joshua 23:8-9 KJV
But cleave unto the Lord your God, as ye have done unto this day.
[9] For the Lord hath driven out from before you GREAT NATIONS and strong: but as for you, no man hath been able to stand before you unto this day.

Lastly , Jesus foretold of other nations outside Israel coming to God through him :

John 10:14-21 KJV
I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep , and am known of mine. [15] As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. [16] And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. [17] Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. [18] No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. [19] There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings. [20] And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? [21] Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

THE FOLD THERE ABOVE IS ISRAEL AND OTHER FOLDS ARE OTHER NATIONS.

Jesus said in :

John 4:22 KJV
Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

And not of the Arabs.


To be continued.

Godisreal55:
@ enilove
In reference to his miraculous birth, Jesus was sent to the world as a sign (Qur'an 21:91). But in reference to his message, Jesus was sent ONLY to the Israelites (Qur'an 3:49, 61:6, Matthew 15:24, 10:5-6, 19:28, Acts 10:28, Acts 11:19, Galatians 2:7-9, James 1:1 etc).

The prophet of Islam was sent to the entire world (Qur'an 7:158, 34:28, 25:1), since all the biblical prophets including Jesus was sent ONLY to the Israelites.

Your question;

"What was the reason God send Jesus to the world , when the Israelites already had the laws of Moses with them?"


This is my Reply;


Jesus was never sent to the world(see the evidence above). Again, there are many biblical prophets (like Ezra, Samuel etc) between Moses and Jesus Christ. Therefore, if God can send many prophets to the Israelites despite the fact that they already had the law of Moses with them, then He can also send Jesus to them.


Now ASSUMING what the Qur'an says about Jesus is wrong and Jesus was truly sent to the entire world. It is now left for you to explain how this assumption will help you to resolve the CONTRADICTION inherent in the way of God that says " AN INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL MUST NOT BE KILLED(Exodus 20:13) but later contradict Himself by saying "AN INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL MUST BE KILLED ON THE CROSS" before the humanity can be saved; Yet being all powerful and all knowing God that sees the end from the beginning, He has MANY WAYS He can choose to achieve His aim; A NON VIOLENT WAY( Ezekiel 33:10-16) THAT WILL NOT LATER REQUIRE HIM TO CONTRADICT HIS ORIGINAL LAW.

Enilove, pls ponder over what is written below very well

1. To kill an innocent and righteous soul is a dirty and a satanic act.
2. All the people of the world testify to this fact
3. God also bear witness to this fact; otherwise He will not strongly forbid it (Exodus 20:13).
4. Working out the way of salvation for humanity is a pure and holy act.


Now consider this question; if the brutal killing of Jesus on the cross is the ONLY WAY to our salvation, then how can God Almighty that has vast knowledge and immense power over everything be COMPELLED to use a DIRTY AND SATANIC ACT to achieve something that is PURE AND HOLY.
But if you agreed to the fact that God can NEVER be compelled, then DUE TO HIS MERCY as a merciful God, He must have neglected that dirty and satanic way in preference for a pure and holy way. Yes this pure and holy way is SINCERE REPENTANCE (Ezekiel 33:10-16, Ezekiel 18:20-22, Luke 5:32, Acts 2:38 etc).

YOU ARE VERY WRONG .

You said Jesus was sent to the world as a sign .
As a sign for what ?

And you also claimed he was sent only to the Israelites.
My question is ,what assignment was he given to carryout , which made it mandatory for him to come?
I mean , what was Jesus' Divine assignment which God could not give to Moses , but could only be carried out by another prophet? Ref. below :

Deuteronomy 18:15 KJV
The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE SAYS , "GOD WILL RAISE UP UNTO THEE A ( ONE ) PROPHET NOT PROPHETS .
That means a particular prophet and not prophets.

Other prophets would come but there is a particular prophet or messiah which the Israelites were told would come to save them.
Was it that God could not save the Israelites through the messages or law He gave to Moses ? Why expecting another prophet or messiah?
Most of the other prophets in the Bible talked of a coming messiah , why ? What is so special about this VERY PROPHET?

All that had to do with laws and sacrifices were given to Moses for the Israelites to observe and to make them clean, what else was lacking ?

Couldn't God send Moses to the whole world at the same time and to command the Israelites to force other nations to worship only their God or get killed ?
What did Muhammad did that other prophets like Moses and Elijah could not do that necessitated the coming of Muhammad ?
How would the coming of Muhammad benefit those who came b4 him and died b4 he was born?
Were the Israelites created by a different God ?
Why must they have a different prophet and other peoples of the world another prophet ?


THESE ARE QUESTIONS WHICH YOU CAN NEVER ANSWER AS A MUSLIM BECAUSE ISLAM HAS NO ANSWER TO THEM.

I WILL GIVE YOU THE ANSWERS TOMORROW IF I DONT GET ANY REPLY FROM YOU .

Suleimaan:
The location of Hell is in the earth, but some of the scholars said that it is the oaceans, and others said that it is in the centre of the earth. What appears to be the case is that it is in the earth, but we do not know exactly where it is in the earth.

The evidence that Hell is in the earth is the verse in which Allah, may He be exalted, says: (interpretation of the meaning): “Nay! Truly, the Record (writing of the deeds) of the Fujjar (disbelievers, sinners, evil-doers and wicked) is (preserved) in Sijjeen” [al-Mutaffifeen 83:7]. Sijjeen is the lowest earth, and Hell is in the earth.

There are hadiths that have been narrated concerning this, but they are da‘eef (weak). There are also reports from the early generations, such as Ibn ‘Abbaas and Ibn Mas‘ood, and this is the apparent meaning of the Qur’an. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily, those who belie Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and treat them with arrogance, for them the gates of heaven will not be opened, and they will not enter Paradise until the camel goes through the eye of the needle (which is impossible)” [al-A‘raaf 7:40]. Those who disbelieve in the signs of Allah and are too arrogant to believe in them will undoubtedly be in Hell.

My question was not about the location of "hell" but location of "Paradise".

Where was paradise located before God drove Adam and Eve out of the paradise ?

Suleimaan:
The location of Hell is in the earth, but some of the scholars said that it is the oaceans, and others said that it is in the centre of the earth. What appears to be the case is that it is in the earth, but we do not know exactly where it is in the earth.

The evidence that Hell is in the earth is the verse in which Allah, may He be exalted, says: (interpretation of the meaning): “Nay! Truly, the Record (writing of the deeds) of the Fujjar (disbelievers, sinners, evil-doers and wicked) is (preserved) in Sijjeen” [al-Mutaffifeen 83:7]. Sijjeen is the lowest earth, and Hell is in the earth.

There are hadiths that have been narrated concerning this, but they are da‘eef (weak). There are also reports from the early generations, such as Ibn ‘Abbaas and Ibn Mas‘ood, and this is the apparent meaning of the Qur’an. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily, those who belie Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and treat them with arrogance, for them the gates of heaven will not be opened, and they will not enter Paradise until the camel goes through the eye of the needle (which is impossible)” [al-A‘raaf 7:40]. Those who disbelieve in the signs of Allah and are too arrogant to believe in them will undoubtedly be in Hell.

My question was not about the location of "hell" but location of "heaven".

Where was paradise located before God drove Adam and Eve out of the paradise ?

There is nothing good about Islam , it is evil in disguise .

Godisreal55:
@ enilove

Pls go straight to your point and stop asking questions that are irrelevant to the topic of discussion.
If you claim that Luke 19:27 is a parable, what of this

"All that would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be PUT TO DEATH, whether small or great, man or woman (2nd Chronicles15:13). Is it also a parable?

Pls go and read your Bible very well and stop using what was practiced in the Bible to falsify Islamic rulings that even forbid the killing of women and children.

Let me repeat myself; It is clear that Exodus 20:13 ONLY forbid the killing of an INNOCENT AND RIGHTEOUS SOUL; Not the killing of people that really deserved it.

My point is this: If Jesus is an innocent and righteous soul, then it is CONTRADICTORY to the way of God to REQUEST FOR JESUS' DEATH ON THE CROSS. God Almighty who says " an innocent and righteous soul MUST NOT BE KILLED " would not later contradict Himself by saying " an innocent and righteous soul MUST BE KILLED" on the cross before we can be saved.

If Jesus crucifixion is the only way to salvation, then those who crucified Jesus allegedly really deserved our kudos and honor. But does it make any sense at all to give kudos and honor to the murderers of an innocent and righteous soul ?

This your reply shows clearly that you are an hypocrite.

You need to first understand what your religion is all about , and why you need to believe it ,b4 scandalizing other religions.

Matthew 7:3-5 KJV
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
[4] Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? [5] Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

If you want me to explain to you why Jesus had to die for our sins and that of every human , from the time of Adam to the judgement day , answer these questions I asked you earlier :

WHY DID GOD SEND MUHAMMAD ?
WHY DID GOD SEND JESUS , ACCORDING TO YOUR QURAN , SINCE HE DID NOT COME TO DIE FOR OUR SINS ?

Godisreal55:
@Enilove

Those people that the prophet of Islam were commanded to kill in the battle are NOT innocent. They are guilty in the sense that they REFUSE to accept to Islam.
Jesus was also commanded in the same way :"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and KILL them in front of me (Luke 19:27)". These people were NOT innocent because they did not allow Jesus to be a king over them.
So it is very clear that Exodus 20:13 is refering to the killing of an INNOCENT AND A RIGHTEOUS SOUL- which is forbidden. It is not referring to the killing of the people who really deserved it.
Since Jesus is an INNOCENT AND A RIGHTHEOUS SOUL, the it is contradictory to the way of God for the same God to request for his death on the cross before the humanity can gain eternal life

You are wrong regarding Jesus commanding Christians to kill.
It was a parable which is about what God will do to sinners on the judgement day :

Luke 19:11-14,18,20-21,24,27 KJV
And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.
[12] He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.
[13] And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.
[14] But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.
[18] And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.
[20] And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:
[21] For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.
[24] And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.
[27] But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

I PURPOSELY SKIPPED SOME VERSES FOR CONCISENESS .

I want you to answer these questions :

What was the reason God send Jesus to the world , when the Israelites already had the laws of Moses with them?

What was the reason God send Muhammad , despite the fact that the world already had prophets with messages from God?

Godisreal55:
Despite their agreement on Jesus as a mighty prophet of God who was born miraculously by virgin Mary, Christians and Muslims still disagree on some certain issues concerning Jesus Christ. One of the great area of dispute between Christians and Muslims is the issue of Jesus crucifixion. Christians believe that Jesus MUST DIE for our sins (John 1:29) before we can be admitted into the kingdom of heaven. In fact, Jesus Christ, and his sacrificial death on the cross, is the central and the most important basic tenet of the Christian faith. You will notice that the symbol of "CROSS" which is usually used to represent Christianity stands for nothing but JESUS CRUCIFIXION. Therefore, Christians believe that Jesus crucifixion is true (Mark 15:25). But on the other hand, the Muslims believe that there is no need for Jesus to die on the cross for our sins before we can be admitted into paradise. They believe that SINCERE REPENTANCE from our sinful ways is enough to clean our sins before God (Qur'an 66:8, Ezekiel 33:10-16).Therefore, Muslims believe that Jesus crucifixion is NOT true on the authority of Holy Qur'an (Qur'an 4:157).


Base on this very DISAGREEMENT over the issue of Jesus crucifixion, it is IMPOSSIBLE for both Islam and Christianity to be a true faith from God at the same time. One faith must definitely be TRUE while the other faith must definitely be FALSE.

So how are we to arrive at the truth? Which faith is true and which faith is false? One of the ways to distinguish between a true faith and a false faith is by subjecting these two contrasting faiths to a COMMON TEST and see which one is going to pass and which one is going to fail. Since both Muslims and Christians believe in the TEN commandments of God given to Moses, I have decided to use it as the basis for this common test.

Consequently, a simplified list of all the TEN commandments of God given to Moses (pbuh) are cited below
1. “You shall have no other gods before me."
2. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, "
3. “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain"
4. “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
5. “Honor your father and your mother."
6. “You shall not murder."
7. “You shall not commit adultery."
8. “You shall not steal."
9. “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor."
10. “You shall not covet"
(Exodus 20:2-17 )
Through our universal inborn knowledge that God bestowed upon us as human being, we all know for sure that if ALL the people of the world were to obey ALL these TEN commandments of God given to Moses, it will surely be for the BETTERMENT of humanity both in this world and in the hereafter; it will NOT be for the worse.

Islam also agree with the fact that if ALL the people of the world were to obey ALL these TEN commandments of God given to Moses, it will surely be for the BETTERMENT of humanity both in this world and in the hereafter; it will NOT be for the worse.

But do you know what the Christianity says if ALL the people of the world decided to obey ALL the TEN commandments of God given to Moses ? Indirectly, Christianity says it will be for the WORSE; this is because NOBODY will inherit the kingdom of God.

But how is that possible ? Wait! Do not be hasty. Let me explain it to you. Remember, one of the TEN commandments of God given to Moses is “You shall not murder (Exodus 20:13)- the sixth commandment listed above " i:e People MUST NOT shed the blood of an INNOCENT human being.
Now after the departure of Moses, if ALL the people of the Earth decided to OBEY this very commandment, who is going to CRUCIFY innocent Jesus on the cross ? And if innocent Jesus did not get crucified, how was he going to DIE for for the SIN of humanity ? And if Jesus did not die for the sin of humanity, then NOBODY will enter the kingdom of heaven.

Have you now agreed that Christianity says indirectly; "if ALL the people of the world decided to OBEY ALL the TEN commandments of God given to MOSES, then it will be for the WORSE; Not for the betterment of humanity: because NOBODY will enter the kingdom of heaven". But this is totally AGAINST OUR INBORN KNOWLEDGE because we know for sure that if ALL the people of the world were to obey ALL the TEN commandments of God given to Moses, it will surely be for the BETTERMENT of humanity both in this world and in the hereafter; NOT for the worse.
We know quite right that all the people of the earth cannot obey all those ten commandments. We only use it as a TEST to know which either of the two faiths (Islam or Christianity) that is BEST IN CONFORMITY with our universal inborn knowledge that God Himself instilled in our mind; And we have seen how Islam passed and how Christianity failed the test.

This is one of the simple ways to know that the present-day Christianity is NOT a true religion from God but a man-made religion . God does not require the blood of an INNOCENT HUMAN BEING before He can can forgive our sins. Jesus was NOT even sent to the entire humanity talkless of dying for the sins of humanity. By his own admission; I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24).

But do you know the EXACT reason why Christianity failed that common test ? The reason is this; the wonderful way of God can NEVER be contradictory; God Almighty who says: "An innocent human being MUST NOT be killed (Exodus 20:13)" would NOT LATER CONTRADICT HIMSELF by saying: "An innocent human being MUST be killed" on the cross of Calvary BEFORE THE HUMANITY CAN GAIN ETERNAL LIFE . Honestly, the way of the Lord our God can be higher than our ways (Isaiah 55:8-9) but the way of the Lord our God can NEVER be contradictory. He is the Lord that do NOT change to contradict Himself. (Malachi 3:6, Numbers 23:19).

Looking at it from another angle, if Jesus crucifixion is the ONLY WAY to our salvation, then without any doubt, those who allegedly crucified Jesus christ really deserve KUDOS and HONOUR. But does it make any iota of sense to give kudos and honour to MURDERER of an innocent and righteous soul ? Again see the contradiction!

Since God is All-Knowing and All-Powerful Planner, His vast knowledge and immense power over everything can make it possible for Him to acheive His aim in so MANY ways. Therefore, it is NOT a mandatory upon God to choose one particular way; especially a way that will later require an INNOCENT HUMAN BEING to be KILLED on the cross.
Hence, if God of Power, Knowledge and Mercy really have MANY ways He can follow to achieve His aim, then DUE TO HIS MERCY, He must have chosen a NON-VIOLENT way to achieve His aim and He must have neglected a MORE-VIOLENT way that will later require an INNOCENT HUMAN BEING to be KILLED on the cross-which would be CONTRADICTORY to His original law that states an INNOCENT HUMAN BEING MUST NOT BE KILLED (Exodus 20:13).
Yes one of the NON-VIOLENT ways that God has chosen to achieve one of His aim (i:e creating a way of SALVATION FOR HUMANITY ) is SINCERE REPENTANCE;

Son of man, say to the Israelites; this is what you are saying: our offenses and sins weigh us down, and we are wasting away because of them. How then can we live? Say to them: as surely as I live declares the sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! TURN FROM YOUR EVIL WAYS! Why will you die, people of Israel? Therefore, son of man say to your people… if someone, one who is wicked, REPENTS, that person’s former wickedness will not bring condemnation… And if I say to the wicked person, you will surely die, but they then TURN FROM THEIR SINS and do what is just and right…follow the decree that gives life, and do no evil--THAT PERSON WILL SURELY LIVE :THEY WILL NOT DIE. NONE OF THE SINS that person has committed will be remembered against them.They have done what is just and right; they will surely live (Ezekiel 33:10-16)".
Have you now seen that there is NO NEED for the innocent and righteous human being to killed on the cross before the sinners can gain eternal life. The sinners can gain eternal life through REPENTANCE from their sinful ways.
Jesus confirmed this truth when he said; I came not to call the righteous, but SINNERS TO REPENTANCE (Luke 5:32).

OBJECTION 1 ;
The Christians may want to respond by saying;
The reason why God requested for death of an innocent human being is because God cannot just do away with His JUSTICE simply because He wanted to forgive us and grant us His salvation. Even in the Old testament, the bloods of blameless animals were usually shed before the believers can be entitled to God's forgiveness. This is exactly the reason why an innocent and righteous soul (like Jesus) must ALSO be killed as our SUBSTITUTE to pay the price for our sins so that God's HOLY JUSTICE CAN BE SATISFIED.

REPLY;
But God has already made the shedding of ANIMAL BLOOD permissible (Genesis 3:21) even BEFORE it was legalized for atonement of sins. Can the Christians now show us where God has made the shedding of an innocent and righteous HUMAN BLOOD permissible BEFORE the advent of Christianity ? Besides if it is an act of INJUSTICE for God of love and mercy to FREELY forgive our sins and then grant us His salvation, then is it not a GREATER act of INJUSTICE for the same God to allow His innocent, righteous and beloved prophet to be killed and then fall under His CURSE( Galatians 3:13) ? Where is the JUSTICE in torturing, killing and cursing a righteous soul in order to forgive and save the wicked souls ? Has God not stated in the Bible that the wicked souls can still have access to His forgiveness and salvation through SINCERE REPENTANCE from their sinful ways ( Ezekiel 18:21-23,27,28 Ezekiel 33:10-20, Isaiah 55:7, 2nd Chronicles 7:14 )?

OBJECTION 2:
The Christians may also respond by saying;
But there was no any form of injustice on the part of God because it was Jesus that VOLUNTEER himself to die for our sins without being forced by God.

REPLY;
But who master-mineded the whole plan and requested for the death of innocent Jesus in heaven at FIRST INSTANCE ? Was He not God according to the belief traditionally uphold by the Christians ? Moreover, if it was true that Jesus had submitted his life in heaven, then why did he pray so FERVENTLY asking for the crucifixion to be taken away from him in THREE different consecutive times (Matthew 26:36-44) ? If Jesus had truly and willingly laid down his life in heaven to die for our sin, then he must have been prepared by God both physically and spiritually for this great task. In that case, there would be no need for that blood-sweating prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane (Luke 22:44). Even if Jesus had to pray because of the FLESH that is WEAK, then that prayer should definitely be for the "STRENGTH" that will enable him to bear the task. It should NOT be for the cup of crucifixion to be TAKEN AWAY from him. This very fact is enough to DISPROVE the assertion that says "it was Jesus himself who willingly laid down his life".

OBJECTION 3;
The Christians may respond by saying; but it is neccessary for Jesus to die on the cross as a way of demonstrating God's LOVE toward the world (John 3:16).
REPLY:
But why did Christians think that an innocent, righteous and beloved prophet of God must be killed and cursed (Galatians 3:13) before God can show His love to the world ? Was there any DIRECT LINK between the death of Jesus on the cross and God's love toward the world ? Besides, what about the Old Testament believers that lived and died BEFORE the alleged Jesus crucifixion; how could they have known about this love talkless of feeling it in their heart ?


OBJECTION 4:
The Christians may respond by saying; but the Bible is an inspired word of God and it is too detailed and too explicit on the issue of Jesus crucifixion for us not to believe in it.

REPLY:
But how could Christians have believed in the ENTIRE Bible as inspired word of God when it has so many contradictions abound on its record of events concerning Jesus crucifixion . Can the Christians resolve the following contradictions on Jesus crucifixion for us?
Question 1; When was Jesus exactly crucified ?
-It was at the THIRD HOUR (Mark 15:25 KJV ).
- It was after the SIXTH HOUR (John 19:14-16 KJV)
Question 2; What was the actual colour of the robe given to Jesus when the soldiers were mocking him ?
-It was purple (John 19:2)
-It was scarlet (Matthew 27:28)

Question 3; How did detachment of the soldiers recognized Jesus before they arrested him ?
- It was through the kissing of Jesus by Judas (Matthew 26:48-49)
-It was Jesus that went out and presented himself to the soldiers TWO TIMES ( saying "I am he" while Judas was only standing there watching (John 18:4-.
Question 4; Who carried the cross of crucifixion to Golgotha ?
-It was Simon of Cyrene (Matthew 27:32 )
- It was Jesus himself (John 19:17)
Question 5; What was the ACTUAL WORD FOR WORD inscription fastened to the Jesus’ Cross ?
-The inscription was : “THE KING OF THE JEWS.” (Mark 15:26)
- The inscription was : “THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.” (Matthew 27:37).
- The inscription was : “JESUS OF NAZARETH, THE KING OF THE JEWS.” ( John 19:19)
These are just only five out of many contradictions abound on the record of events concerning Jesus crucifixion. So how couldu Christians have believed that all these irreconcilable contradictions were truly inspired by God ?

Why would the same God allow or command Muhammad and Muslims to murder those who do not believe in Islam , which is contrary to exodus 20:13 you used to conclude that Christianity is false?

The 6th commandment says thou shall not kill . Muhammad was a killer or murderer , which makes Islam a falsehood.

Jesus did not kill , this makes Christianity the right religion because Jesus did not disobey God's commandment.

nwabekeyi:
Abeg, bible gurus please help me with this. I was reading the story of the great flood of Noah's era. Two questions just kept ringing in my head.
1. If all specie of animals where selected in pairs of male and female and we know the Noah's ark was in the Asia, how did specie of animals that are domicile in Africa, Australia and the Americas cross the seas and oceans to get to the Ark in Asia?

2. After the flood how did say for example an African lion and all other animals local to Africa cross the red or indian ocean to get back to Africa or how did kangaroos and other animals local to Australia cross the Indian ocean to get back to their locality from Asia, where the Noah's ark was built and where it stopped?

There is nothing like *African lion " , lion is lion.
God did not instruct Noah to get each geographical species of animals.

Kkk777:
Because we are supernatural. With the spirit of God in us we are supernatural.

It's only the children of the living God that has Holy Spirit in them. And for you to become a child of God, you must have accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and saviour.

And the good news is that the kingdom of God is only for the children of God.

We are gods because our father is God.

A lion will give birth to lion.

We manifest god's nature through the Holy Spirit in us.

You are rebirth as soon as you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and saviour from the darkness of this world to the marvellous light of the living God and Holy Spirit; the spirit if the living God begin to live in your and lead you in all thing.

Also, the power and authority in the name of Jesus is given unto you.

The power, dominion and glory that men lost in the garden of eden is restored in you.

You continue to manifest as you continue to study and walk in the word of God.

Jesus is Lord!

Those who died b4 the death of Jesus were also children of God .The likes of Abraham , Isaac , David etc were children of God.

chukwuma0000:
This question gut into my mind which I found very difficult to answer,
Jesus christ was born like we too but the only difference is that he was mightily used by God,
God still use men(great men of God) today yeah, why can't we utter their names too as in the days of Jesus christ?
And why do we Christians utter the name Jesus Christ when praying to God almighty?

That means you don't read your Bible.

Jesus was not born like you and I .
Jesus was given birth to by a virgin and no man was his Father.

Luke 1:34-35 KJV
Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
[35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

WE PRAY IN JESUS NAME BECAUSE IT IS BIBLICAL :

John 14:13-17 KJV
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
[14] If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
[15] If ye love me, keep my commandments.
[16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
[17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Islam is a serpentine religion .

olamimd:
1. Shahada (Mark 12:29)

2. Salat (Matthew 26:39)

3. Zakah (Hebrew 10:24)

4. Fasting (Matthew 4:1-1)

5. Hajj (Psalm 84:5-6)

THE TRUTH FROM THE BIBLE

ABLUTION IN THE BIBLE
Leviticus. 19:27
Leviticus. 21:5
Jeremiah. 9:25
1 chronicles. 19:5
Exodus. 30:17
Exodus. 40:30
John. 13:4

HOW TO DRESS IN THE BIBLE
Exodus. 28:1

WOMEN SHOULDN'T SPEAK IN CHURCH
Ezekiel. 13:17
Corinthians. 14:34-38
Tito. 2:3
1 Timothy. 2:11
Revelation. 2:19
1 timothy. 2:8

HOW TO WORSHIP IN THE BIBLE
Genesis. 17:1
Psalm. 95: 6
Ezekiel. 43:3
Kings. 18:39
Psalm. 5:7
Numbers. 20:6
Nehemiah. 8:6
Matthew. 26:36
Matthew. 17:1
Revelation. 7:9

IS WINE/PORK ALLOWED.
Leviticus. 11:7
Deuteronomy. 14:8
Isaiah. 65:3
Proverbs. 31:3
Isaiah. 4:11
Amos. 6:5-7
Habakkuk. 2:15
Leviticus. 10:8
Isaiah. 66:17

PROPHECY OF MOHAMMED IN THE BIBLE
Genesis. 49:10
Genesis. 16:7-14
Deuteronomy. 18:18
Deuteronomy. 34:10
Jeremiah. 34:18
Isaiah. 21:13
Isaiah. 19:19
Daniel. 7:13
Mathew. 21:33-43
Galatians. 4:21

Source: ALBAYAAN MUSLIMS PREACHERS ASSOCIATION

Islam is the religion of the devil . Islam is all about lies which the devil is known for .

The Bible and the Quran are not from the same God , so stop linking the Quran with the Bible.

TATIME:
Thanks my friend, it's true that JWs organization have made many mistakes in the past like use of words to present our understanding of future events that are predicted in the Bible as prophesies. In the past instead of saying "we've meditated thoroughly on what is written in the Bible, and during our meditations with prayers we've discovered that so and so will happen" we used the word "prophesies" which connotes that we're the ones telling the prophesies. The fact still remains that out of interpretations of 10 prophesies found in the Bible by Jehovah's Witnesses NONE has failed,it's Just the TIMING of these prophesies that's gloomy. True Christians have been making this same mistakes in the past. Act 1:7 but as for those prophesies they're surely going to happen it might not be in the order projected by JWs. No other religious group can see what JWs are seeing regarding our interpretations of Bible prophesies!

Why did the JW organization make such prophesies when Jesus told us that no one knows the time ?
Is the organization not undermining that scriptures or Jesus himself ?

1stSonOfLucifer:
They aren't same.
Even from they teaching and everything in their holy books, one will know there aren't same. Although both copied each other in some way but their gods ain't same.

Did I add that both gods are bullsh!t? Yeah, they are

How can the book and religion which has been existing for more than 6 Hundred years copy a book or a new religion which came into existence last year?
It is only possible for the new to copy the old and not the other way .

Beaten:
Ladies and gentlemen. It was like film trick way back 2011 when all of a sudden a hand went out of the wall and pressed my head around 4.00am and gave me pap to eat. Since then I can't think rightly.

I sometimes feel invisible person moving around my head and my bed. I used to go to church and pray and I was getting used to it but not until I realized that the invisible being fills me with spiritual dirty things from my underneath and mouth. I felt my mouth is dirty.

Down to 2015 I was planning to get married and my mouth got unknown odor that caused me shame everywhere to the extent if I see woman I can't even talk to them. I prayed and prayed then mouth odor left.

This year 2018. I felt like I should travel abroad Maybe I will be fine. While everything was under process an unknown body odor came. This is the most ridiculous I've ever experienced. The spirit being still there. But the most ridiculous is I don't perceive the odor. But once people try to look at my face, they turn away and hold their nose.

I've already taken knife to do justice to my life. I do not know why the unknown invisible person is inflicting pain on me. Sirs and ma, I can't say I'm holy but I don't deep hands in shady things. I'm a believer and moral person. I do not know if there's hope for me. If anyone can help maybe I still have hope.

Shame is too much I cannot bear it anymore. I'm sobbing big big inside right now.

IT IS ONLY JESUS THAT CAN SAVE YOU.

GO FOR 5 DAYS DELIVERANCE AT MFM PRAYER CITY .
YOU WILL COME BACK TO GIVE TESTIMONIES , IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

IT IS 100% ASSURANCE.

Abdulgaffar22:
Those verses of Qur’an were
not talking about the nature of death the prophet
would encounter in future
if he were to be a false prophet. But those verses
were simply saying; if
the prophet had fabricated against God SOME OF
THE SAYINGS (NOT the entire
message), then God should CERTAINLY HAVE
CUT OFF (Laqo’tona) his aorta: the
term “ certainly have” indicate that this event
should have taken place in
the PAST and NOT in the FUTURE(like after 23
years). Furthermore, the word
used in the Qur’an is Al-wateen which is
translated as aorta: which is
quite different from the word Al-abhar used in the
Hadith which means
jugular vein. Again, the Qur’an makes it clear that
the aorta of such a
fabricator must ACTUALLY be cut off because of
the word “certainly”. Yet
there is no any evidence or indication that the
aorta of the prophet was
ACTUALLY cut off from that poison. If the poison
has actually cut off his
aorta, he would never be the one to say; “I feel
as if my vein is being cut
off” since he would have died before these words
could ever come out from
his mouth. Feeling that something has happened
is quite different from
‘that something has actually happened’. How
could a poison, which would go
straight into the stomach, possess the power to
ACTUALLY cut off the aorta? The
prophet only said those words metaphorically in
order to express the kind
of pain and feelings he was passing through. If
the prophet were truly a
fabricator and God wanted to use these verses of
Qur’an to prove this case
to us, then one would expect his aorta to be cut
off by THE SWORD (and
never by the poison) in the hand of his enemy
during one of the many
battles he fought with the idol worshippers so
that the fulfillment of
these verses can be clearly seen by all without
any further argument. But
despite the fact that Qur’an said; We would
CERTAINLY HAVE CUT OFF his aorta;
yet God did not allow the prophet to be struck on
his neck by the SWORD or
KNIFE which would have been in perfect
agreement with the what is written
in the Qur’an. From my own perspective, God
allowed such words reported in
the Hadith to come out from prophet’s mouth
only to serve as a test and
trial for those who are furiously searching for any
slight evidence to
disqualify him as a true prophet of God. God
wanted to test them: are they
going to base their judgment on this questionable
evidence alone and
neglect all other clear evidence explained above
which prove that the
prophet could never have fabricated the Holy
Qur’an. This is exactly
similar to a kind of test and trial that God set
forth for the atheists and
evolutionists: are they going to believe that
human evolve from apes by
simply basing their judgment on the vague
resemblance between the two
species and neglect all other evidence which
prove that the entire process
of evolution could never have started at all due to
natural law of entropy.
Even if the prophet was able to survive for 23
years after his claim as a
prophet of God but later died as a martyr by
eating poison through the plan
of the Jews living at medina by that time, he has
already achieved his aim.
In fact, that he was able to survive for complete 3
years after eating the
poison as narrated in another hadith while his
companion who ate with him
died on the spot is another miracle on its own
that also testified to his
prophet hood. In fact, God deliberately spare his
life even after eating
the poison till concluding verse of his mission
was revealed to him where
God Almighty declare as follows: This day, I have
perfected your religion
for you, and I have completed My favor upon you,
and I have chosen for you
Islam as your religion(Qur’an 5:3). If the prophet
was a great impersonator
and great fabricator against God, then why would
God have to wait for 23
years till this concluding verse was fabricated
against Him? Yet He did not
even allow Hananiah ,the false prophet to even
live for a year before he
removed him from the face of the earth (Jeremiah
28:1-17)

HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT OF IT THAT ALLAH MIGHT NOT BE YOUR CREATOR ?

SECONDLY , WHY DID YOU SAY MUHAMMAD COULDN'T HAVE FABRICATED THE QURAN , WHY ?

DOES THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD SHOWED TO YOU HE WAS A HOLY MAN?

If you want to clothe someone , you must not be dressed in rags. That is , you have to convince us that your religion is not a fake and that you fully understand what you are doing.

africantycoon:
You have all been bewitched. Keep following MFM don't follow Christ.

Are you following Christ by going to night clubs and fornicating ?

Abdulgaffar22:
Those verses of Qur’an were
not talking about the nature of death the prophet
would encounter in future
if he were to be a false prophet. But those verses
were simply saying; if
the prophet had fabricated against God SOME OF
THE SAYINGS (NOT the entire
message), then God should CERTAINLY HAVE
CUT OFF (Laqo’tona) his aorta: the
term “ certainly have” indicate that this event
should have taken place in
the PAST and NOT in the FUTURE(like after 23
years). Furthermore, the word
used in the Qur’an is Al-wateen which is
translated as aorta: which is
quite different from the word Al-abhar used in the
Hadith which means
jugular vein. Again, the Qur’an makes it clear that
the aorta of such a
fabricator must ACTUALLY be cut off because of
the word “certainly”. Yet
there is no any evidence or indication that the
aorta of the prophet was
ACTUALLY cut off from that poison. If the poison
has actually cut off his
aorta, he would never be the one to say; “I feel
as if my vein is being cut
off” since he would have died before these words
could ever come out from
his mouth. Feeling that something has happened
is quite different from
‘that something has actually happened’. How
could a poison, which would go
straight into the stomach, possess the power to
ACTUALLY cut off the aorta? The
prophet only said those words metaphorically in
order to express the kind
of pain and feelings he was passing through. If
the prophet were truly a
fabricator and God wanted to use these verses of
Qur’an to prove this case
to us, then one would expect his aorta to be cut
off by THE SWORD (and
never by the poison) in the hand of his enemy
during one of the many
battles he fought with the idol worshippers so
that the fulfillment of
these verses can be clearly seen by all without
any further argument. But
despite the fact that Qur’an said; We would
CERTAINLY HAVE CUT OFF his aorta;
yet God did not allow the prophet to be struck on
his neck by the SWORD or
KNIFE which would have been in perfect
agreement with the what is written
in the Qur’an. From my own perspective, God
allowed such words reported in
the Hadith to come out from prophet’s mouth
only to serve as a test and
trial for those who are furiously searching for any
slight evidence to
disqualify him as a true prophet of God. God
wanted to test them: are they
going to base their judgment on this questionable
evidence alone and
neglect all other clear evidence explained above
which prove that the
prophet could never have fabricated the Holy
Qur’an. This is exactly
similar to a kind of test and trial that God set
forth for the atheists and
evolutionists: are they going to believe that
human evolve from apes by
simply basing their judgment on the vague
resemblance between the two
species and neglect all other evidence which
prove that the entire process
of evolution could never have started at all due to
natural law of entropy.
Even if the prophet was able to survive for 23
years after his claim as a
prophet of God but later died as a martyr by
eating poison through the plan
of the Jews living at medina by that time, he has
already achieved his aim.
In fact, that he was able to survive for complete 3
years after eating the
poison as narrated in another hadith while his
companion who ate with him
died on the spot is another miracle on its own
that also testified to his
prophet hood. In fact, God deliberately spare his
life even after eating
the poison till concluding verse of his mission
was revealed to him where
God Almighty declare as follows: This day, I have
perfected your religion
for you, and I have completed My favor upon you,
and I have chosen for you
Islam as your religion(Qur’an 5:3). If the prophet
was a great impersonator
and great fabricator against God, then why would
God have to wait for 23
years till this concluding verse was fabricated
against Him? Yet He did not
even allow Hananiah ,the false prophet to even
live for a year before he
removed him from the face of the earth (Jeremiah
28:1-17)

THE DEVIL IS NOT STUPID. HE MAKES OR CALLS GOOD BAD AND BAD GOOD , TO DESTROY PEOPLES SOULS IN HELL.

HOW CAN ANYONE IDENTIFY A TRUE OR FALSE PROPHET?

IT IS BY THEIR FRUITS :

Matthew 7:17-20 KJV
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
[18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
[19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
[20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

BY THE FRUIT OR DEEDS OF MUHAMMAD , IT IS GLARING THAT HE WAS A FALSE PROPHET :

Allah SWT says:

وَإِذْ تَقُولُ لِلَّذِىٓ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَأَنْعَمْتَ عَلَيْهِ أَمْسِكْ عَلَيْكَ زَوْجَكَ وَاتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَتُخْفِى فِى نَفْسِكَ مَا اللَّهُ مُبْدِيهِ وَتَخْشَى النَّاسَ وَاللَّهُ أَحَقُّ أَنْ تَخْشٰىهُ ۖ فَلَمَّا قَضٰى زَيْدٌ مِّنْهَا وَطَرًا زَوَّجْنٰكَهَا لِكَىْ لَا يَكُونَ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَرَجٌ فِىٓ أَزْوٰجِ أَدْعِيَآئِهِمْ إِذَا قَضَوْا مِنْهُنَّ وَطَرًا ۚ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللَّهِ مَفْعُولًا
"And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished."
(QS. Al-Ahzaab: Verse 37)

THE IS CERTAINLY NOT FROM THE GOD OF THE BIBLE WHO HAD WARNED THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL NOT TO DIVORCE THEIR WIVES AND SHOULD NOT MARRY A DIVORCEE :

Matthew 5:32 KJV
But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced COMMITTETH ADULTERY.

BASED ON THE STANDARD OF THE HOLY BIBLE , MUHAMMAD WAS AN ADULTERER AND CANNOT MAKE HEAVEN BUT HELL FIRE .

HIS DEEDS WERE VERY SHAMEFUL AND CANNOT BE CALLED GOD'S PROPHET BUT DEVIL'S PROPHET.

africantycoon:
The mountain of Fire leader currently has two lawsuits in Nigeria and two in the United States and under investigation in the United Kingdom. It seems to be a litigious church that has had to resort to litigation for reasons I don't know.

This church has good intentions but they are going about it the wrong way.

- they don't believe the Blood of Jesus is enough; rather they believe they will be heard through an endless regime of 70 day fasts and based on how loudly they scream and not in the power of the name of Jesus; this is inadvertent though due to overzealousness.
- they have strayed from how Christ himself thought us to pray; do not use vain repetitions, pray through Christ and they pray thru die (they say die 14 times before in Jesus name).
- They believe they are above reproach and the highest church.
- Very wicked and selfish members mostly divorcees and people of questionable character who only care about themselves thru an endless regime of fasting and prayer for demons that seem to defy prayers.
- Inadvertent use of latent power of the soul which gives Satan ground for deception thru false prophecy.

This is a message of correction in love. Pass this on to MFM and let Almighty God Himself teach and correct us. It's time to do wat Jesus himself taught us. It's a good church just a few practices that are unscriptural that needs to be fixed. Otherwise the church would be fulfilling the prophecy of false prophets and False Christs arising in the last days.

I was wondering what could have prompted someone to post a lie such as the one I quoted , but I decided to check your profile. I thank God I did , if not , I would have been wasting my time to reply someone like you .
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OkaiCorne:
But the Pastors of today that are collecting tithes, they are Levites and High Priests I guess...

Even one scriptural reference to show tithing was practiced in the early church cannot be seen...

Sad...

Was Abraham a Levite?

Tithing was not deliberated on in the new testament because there was no objections to tithing among the disciples .
If there was no need for tithing , the apostles would have written concerning that in form of instructions or in one way or the order.
That is why churches for the past 2000 years had been collecting tithes and it is not now, after 2000 years, that someone would start questioning it.

paxonel:
i should be the one to tell you to give your life to christ,It seems you are not a true christian .

True christians dont tell few christians to give their life to christ only fake christians do.

As i am seeing you so, you are heading to hell fire straight

True christians were suppose to tell muslims and people of other religions to give their life to christ.

Never in the bible was any christian told another christian to give their life to christ, there was no division in christianity from the beginning, it is this current day rubbish born again people thinking they are holier than others that are causing division.

Jehovah witnesses are saying they are the true christians, born again people are saying also they are the true christians,anyone believing in christ that is not like them should go to hell. Is that not ridiculous extremism?

Its like boko haram telling the rest of other islamic sects that if they dont kill people like the way they kill people they are not muslims.
Absolutely rubbish!
I'm just laughing at the level of your ignorance.

therefore you born again people are not different from jehovah witnesses, you better repent or you will see hell.

A christian is someone who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ and follows it .

The teachings of Jesus were about faith in him , repentance and holiness :

John 5:14 KJV
Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: SIN NO MORE, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

John 8:11 KJV
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and SIN NO MORE .

John 4:23-24 KJV
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
[24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

A christian must worship God in TRUTH \HOLINESS.

WHEN A CHRISTIAN LIES , STEALS , FORNICATES , FIGHTS, MURDERS , CARRIES OUT ABORTION FOR GIRLS , KEEP MALICE , WHEN HE CURSES AND IS ABUSIVE ETC, JUST LIKE THE UNBELIEVERS , HE IS YOKING WITH THE WORLD. AND IT MEANS HE IS NOT OF CHRIST BUT OF THE WORLD , AND JESUS WOULD NOT ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AS PART OF HIM .

2 Corinthians 6:14-18 KJV
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? [15] And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? [16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them ; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. [17] Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing ; and I will receive you, [18] And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

WHEN WE DO THINGS UNBELIEVERS DO , WE ARE THE SAME WITH THE WORLD OR FREINDS OF THE WORLD :

James 4:4 KJV
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

An enemy of God cannot be a christian .

Don't get me wrong , I am not calling you a sinner , but only buttressing my claims biblically.
That is , a sinner is an enemy of God , unless he repents and seek for forgiveness, he cannot make heaven.

Freeze and his agents of darkness at work.

Why would Jesus collect tithes and offerings? Was Jesus the high priest ?

How come this freezer man has not read his bible to where Jesus consented to tithings?
The answer is simple , freezer or fridge is not a christian but an agent of darkness.

I wonder why his target is towards tithes and firstfruits.

Why has he not for once spoken against the Book Haram and the Fulani killings at all ?

Judgement is in the hand of God. He should face his job and stop paying his own tithe.

paxonel:
what??
Do you say there are people who dont commit sin?
Can you see that what you call truth in africa can never be accepted as a started in more educated and developed societies?

I can see you have a very long way to go

If i am twisting scriptures how will you possibly understand the twist to know whether i was right or wrong at any point?
Now, you want to twist it that there are people who are righteous?
What a rubbish, even a kid will not listen to that.

Contrary to that your opinion, anyone saying i am born again have declared that he is very evil at heart,Do you think eveything that glitters is gold?

It seems you are easily deceived

Have you ever wondered why you will never make sense to sensible christians or anyone who thinks critically and understand on this platform? I have been watching you and i have already rated born again people like you as the very corrupt nigerians
Or are the adeboyes, kumuyi and the oyedepos and the olukoyas not the same people we know, these yoruba men?

You funny o

You nigerians fall for anything, these pastors are not different from low class people when they travel to other countries
When you hear that nigeria is very corrupt nation it is because more than 75% nigerian christians including our terrible pastors claim to be born again.
Every politician i have ever come accross who are christians all go to church, pray in tongues and are fervent in the spirit. But.. ..

You know that? Born again people are terribly disgusting all of them. Because like the pharisees, they think they are holy.

Holy my foot.

I will only advice you, humble yourself and pursue education!
So that by the time you pick up your bible to read again after 3 to 4 years in a good school(not the kind of sub standard schools found in nigeria o) then you can clearly see what jesus meant by born again to nicodemus .

Because it will take another 15 years from now(if you are interested to even read at all)for people of your type to fully understand bible and see what the british saw in it before embarking on a missionary work in africa.

No wonder africans are described as black monkeys

No one is compelling you to be born again . Since you think the Bible was written for fun , there is no problem , continue with your worldliness .

The Bible did not say I should follow the pattern of life of Oyedepo or Adeboye . It tells me to be a disciple of Christ :

John 8:31-32 KJV
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
[32] And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

The truth is in the word of God not in any man.

It is not education that makes one to be a true child of God but total obedience to the words of God.

When you die , your certificates die with you and it will not be required of you in heaven. The real certificate you need is , "your name in the book of life ".

Matthew 16:26 KJV
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

I don't boast about who I am or what I have acquired in life because all is vanity :

2 Corinthians 10:12 KJV
For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

Just to let you know ; My second son is in the last semester of his final academics year in the university.
I am an Accountant by profession and also a Certified information System Auditor . I got my first degree 24 years ago and other professional certificates few years after.
Even my father had a degree in purchasing and supply in London.

Based on the above , you should understand by now that I am in the position to tell you the truth regarding the gospel and other matters , since you suggested ,wrongly , that I should pursue an education .

Lastly ,
whatever name people like they can call us , it really does not matter , what matters is the name we call ourselves. I am proud to be a Nigerian and an African .
God did not make a mistake by creating Nigerians and Africans . I thank God for that.

Jesus the Great judge warned us by saying :

Matthew 5:48 KJV
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

The same He told Abraham :

Genesis 17:1 KJV
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Give your life to Christ and he shall perfect your imperfection and defects by his Power.

paxonel:
jesus christ made this statement before he was crucified i have already said this before, i dont need to repeat myself telling you that every event before the book of act including the matthew 5:20 you quoted(which was after his resurrection) was before the kingdom of God. Have you heard of BC and AD? what do they mean to you?
his disciples!!
His disciples righteousness needed to exceed those of the scribes and pharisees before they can enter the kingdom which was ahead of them as they were following christ to jerusalem where he was to be crucified to bring down the kingdom on earth so that they can enter(i am using a lay man terms here).
and that will only happen when they believe in christ(because it was not possible for them to follow or be disciples to whom they did not believe him in), therefore they did not exceed the righteousness of the scribes and pharisees by their self righteousness but by the righteousness of faith in christ.

The righteousness of the scribes and pharisees was to keep the law of the moses. But there was a righteousness through faith in christ that was not in anyway depend on the law of moses. That was the righteousness that exceeds the righteousness of the pharisees which christ wanted to give to them. Remember, he told the samaritan woman whoever drink of this water i will give, he shall never be thirsty again.
whatever you mean by for your sake is only subjected to you.
he was simply paraphrasing or quoting out the law of moses to them, he said all these laws of moses to them before he was crucified, which should tell you that the crucifixion has nothing to do with the law.
The crucifixion is the crucifixion, the law is the law. They are two different thing and they have nothing to do with each other. Romans 11:6

you are right here. But in the real sense everyone commit sin knowingly or unknowingly.
there is no where in this scriture you quoted that indicate that paul meant CAST AWAY ON THE JUDGEMENT DAY is there anything like that?

You have to be very accurate the way you interprete scriptures and be sincere to yourself.

The truth is , you are not a christian talkeless of being a baby christian.

You keep twisting the scriptures as if that will change the truth.

What makes you to think everyone commits sin ? A born again christian has crucified the flesh and has the power of the Holy Spirit to live above sin . It is because you have never at anytime been born again, that is why you feel or think Christians can sin and still make heaven .

Was it in vain that these scriptures were revealed ?

Romans 6:1-3,6 KJV
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
[2] God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? ( ARE YOU DEAD TO SIN ? )
[3] Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
[6] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him , that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

ARE SINNERS NOT SERVING SIN ?

THIS IS AN ACCOUNT AFTER THE DEATH OF JESUS AND IT READS IN PRESENT CONTINUOUS TENSE . IT RELATES TO THOSE LIVING AFTER THE DEATH OF JESUS .

Revelation 22:11-15 KJV
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
[12] And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
[13] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
[14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
[15] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

WHEN DO YOU THINK SOMEONE LIKE PAUL COULD BE CAST AWAY ? HERE ON EARTH ?

1 Corinthians 9:26-27 KJV
I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
[27] But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

If you think God is after human dating code of BC and AD , you are fooling yourself .

Jesus told us to be born again and his preaching was all about repentance .
If you love your soul , you better repent and discard this SATANIC MESSAGE you were taught and be born again.

LASTLY , MEDITATE ON THESE DIVINE EVIL PROPHESY, BEFORE IT GETS TOO LATE FOR YOU :

Matthew 7:21-23 KJV
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

JESUS WOULD SAY HE NEVER KNEW THEM ON THE JUDGEMENT DAY FOR ONE REASON , "WORKS OF INIQUITIES"

It is only Christians who use the name of Jesus to prophesy and cast out demons , not Pharisees or unbelievers.

Suleimaan:
The message within is your concern, not the source, so far it was even referenced. Don't trivialize it. Allah is telling us the story, so that we will believe in Him and be saved from Hellfire.

Op, Where was the location. of the Paradise , in the earth or in heaven?
I want to know .

paxonel:
according to that scripture, corruption does not implies sinners. Corruption is the same thing as saying decomposition or decay of the body when humans die, it literally means death while incorruptions means life.
Neither do death inherit life.

There is nothing sinner or righteous person there.
you are very correct here
have you seen how judgement was described in revelation?
The criteria for salvation was people having their names in the book of the lamb (what is known as the book of life). Rev. 20:15

Who is the lamb?
Jesus christ ofcourse.

How was their names written there?
Because they simply believe in jesus christ not because they were righteous than anyone else.

The bottomline is, if you believe in christ, before God
You are not abominable even though you committed abomínable things.
You are not fearful, you are not whoremonger, you are not soccerer or idolater or murderer or liar. It is not possible.

Why did christ came to die in the first place?

Men goes to hell fire because they commit sin then christ came to die. After his death christians still go to hell fire because they commit sin.

Then what is the difference?

But again if you find yourself committing these sins as a christian then you must repent or you face the consequences here on earth like any one else, at that point the crucifixion of christ cannot save any christian committing sin from the consequence of his sin.

When christ was crucified, the thief who ended up believing in him on the cross was also killed too. His decision to believe and became christian at his last minute did not stop his execution which was the consequence of his actions. But he was saved into eternal life or paradise after he was executed simply because he believed and became christian .

So understand that.

Matthew 5:20,27-29,31-32 KJV
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

WHOSE RIGHTEOUSNESS SHOULD EXCEED THOSE OF THE PHARISEES?
Christians or others ?

Before you conclude , read these scriptures , it is for your sake.

[27] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
[28] But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
[29] And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
[31] It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
[32] But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Christians are expected to be free from sins :
Romans 6:1-2,6,12,23 KJV
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
[2] God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
[6] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him , that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
[12] Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
[23] For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

EVEN PAUL KNEW HE COULD BE A A CAST AWAY ON THE JUDGEMENT DAY IF HE ALLOWED SIN IN HIS LIFE :
1 Corinthians 9:26-27 KJV
I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:
[27] But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

paxonel:
it is already here with us.

We are the kingdom on earth, every believers.
God now lives and dwells in us in our spirit, we have been translated into his kingdom from the stand point of his resurrection filled with the spirit of God or the holy spirit.

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Meaning, we have already been translated into the kingdom, not that we will be translated into the future.

So, if daddy freeze is saying that these pastors are going to hell for their sins, that is rubbish.
And if anyone is saying daddy freeze is going to hell for attacking these pastors, that is rubbish too.

Judgement is only meant for God, and God is saying we are justified by our faith irrespective of our level of sin.

There is a difference between the preparation for the kingdom of God and the consummation of the kingdom of God.

WHAT IS A KINGDOM OF GOD ?

It is a SPIRITUAL rule of an eternal and sovereign God over the universe where there will be no more death , violence , sufferings for we human beings.

It is spiritual :

1 Corinthians 15:50 KJV
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

You are a flesh and blood and cannot inherit it until your death, neither can any sinner inherit it , according to the above Scriptures.

THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS A JOURNEY.

It started with Jesus here on earth and will completed in heaven after his second coming :

Philippians 1:6 KJV
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

Matthew 25:14,19 KJV
For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.
[19] After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them.

Read also ,Luke 19:11-27 KJV.

That man in that parable was Jesus who came from far country (heaven) and called his servants ( his disciple , you and I ) and deliver unto them his goods ( earthly resources for his second coming).
After a long time ( Not immediately after his death ) . Long time after souls would have been gained for His second coming .

THE DISCIPLES KNEW THEY HAD NOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD HERE ON EARTH :

Acts 14:22 KJV
Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that WE must through much tribulation ENTER into the kingdom of God.

THAT WAS WHY JESUS TALK ABOUT A "WAY", BECAUSE IT IS A JOURNEY:

Matthew 7:13-14 KJV
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the WAY, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

THE BIBLE MAKES US TO UNDERSTAND THAT NO SINNER WILL INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
Jesus said :
Revelation 21:7-8 KJV
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. [8] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

paxonel:
Its so ridiculous you people have no clue of what you preach
Oyibo people who carry bible come africa have better understanding, the problem is you africans dont read at all.

i told you, before you start taking a text of a scripture understand the story behind that text first, you will have a clear understanding of what the scripture is trying to represent, there is nothing hidden in the bible.

There was a story behind it and never neglect that story and take the text to play religion.

Before jesus started the semon in matthew 5 which lasted to matthew 7 up to the verse 22 you quoted(red letters all through), john the baptist started preaching from matthew 3.

Matthew 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.(meaning,the kingdom of God was near to people of that generation)

That generation did not pass until the kingdom of God was fullfilled to them.

"At hand" simply means it is already near at their door step . That is, the crucifixion is already near. Remember, jesus was not yet crucified when john the baptist started preaching.

Now, what is the kingdom of God that was near to their door step ?
The kingdom of God was the time of the crucifixion and resurrection of the messiah(Jesus christ) which the jews were waiting for.

Luke 13:23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luke13:25 When once the master of the house IS RISEN UP, and hath shut to the door, and ye (the jews, not christians o) begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:

Take note of the emboldened .
The question they asked him was, are few people will enter into the kingdom? (Salvation) according to what they saw in their torah(holy book) that few people will enter the kingdom.
And jesus told them yes, few people will enter the kingdom. Thats why they need to strive to enter the gate.

Truly on that day (2000 years ago)many(including the disciples actually prophesied and cast out demons in his name, but only few of them, only 120 of them(act 1:15)among the disciples who followed him to the cross ended up becoming christians holding their believe(faith) in him, the rest of the 5000 of them who eat five fishes and bread denied him and ran away, those were the people he literally told "I KNOW YE NOT" even though they were his disciples and walk with him initially.
even peter denied him as well but he was restored.

What is the gate?
The gate is the crucifixion and resurrection of jesus. That the moment he is risen after is crucifixion, the gate will be closed.

Was the gate actually closed?
The answer is No,
Infact the gate is till open till this moment since 2000 years ago ,for as many who changes their mind to believe in christ and be saved (including the jews).

All these have past already.
Today, Gods kingdom which is christianity on earth which was established the day jesus was risen, have billions of people worldwide believing in christ which are all in heaven like this on earth, and they will live on this earth forever, no end. (Read 1 cor 15:35 to the end to know how this is happening)
that is the fullfilmment of the prophesy, Its Gods doing.

HAS THE KINGDOM OF GOD COME OR ABOUT TO COME?