₦airaland Forum

kmcutez:
You think it’s everyone that can be deceived by the Bible? That’s how they use the same scripture to kill you during the Spanish Inquisition before the transatlantic slave started. Don’t let them deceive you a second time.

If I was killed during the spanish inquisition or whatever you call it, how am I still able to be on nairaland? It's a miracle

Maestro21:
It is about the beast however now is not the time of the beast. That is what we are trying to tell other Christians but they would not listen till it is too late. That is how it happened in China.

lol when is the time of the beast?

Banmeallday:
Stupid Blackie Pastor....


Tell us how to secure the North you fo.ol


No wonder Luggard called people like him a Nigger


Nonsense

Lol you're not interested in securing the north, you just want to be a nuisance

cucumbar:
I wonder how pastor kumuyi doesn’t know this.

That it is real and foretold in the Bible doesn’t mean that it was not engineered to achieve an aim.

If it's really about the beast, nobody can stop it. It must come to pass. As a sound christian, you shouldn't worry about that because according to the bible, you won't be around to experience it

maynattion:
^^
They have started their permutations as usual.

I don't think you know the meaning of permutations

patrickmuf:
Whoever is having that argument with you that the strikers don't have a role to play is definitely not me...I am particular about midfield because you are attempting to put all the blame on the forwards and forwards alone...If I was responding to Expert, I'd also highlight the role of forwards in keeping possession...

In all, a good midfield and defense forms the basis for retaining the ball 70%

Strikers? Oh I forgot Bruno is now a striker, abi na forward?

Expert17:
This is the EPL statistics showing the players that maintain possession for teams.

Where is McFred? Did you see any Supporting striker or Attacking midfielder in the image below??

So funny you are blaming our Creativity Plug for our inability to possess teams.

LMAO oya bring the one for your team. No I am blaming our Creativity Plug for our inability to possess NORWICH

melodyogonna:
Why not? They can't play 5 yard passes?

We are talking about simple 5 yard passes o. Just give your nearest or next man, and move

patrickmuf:
For a midfielder, keeping the ball is not just passing it when it gets to you, your ability to receive the ball, spin your marker and pass is key to breaking down the opposition...

Go and watch Busquets, Xavi, Alonso, Modric etc and you'd see how they help their team retain possession as well as initiate attacks by taking out 1 or 2 opposition players either through a quick turn, spin or raking long passes from deep...

Go and watch Silva, Iniesta, Messi etc and you will see that they help their team retain possession. Then come back, watch as Ronaldo, Rashford and Bruno against Norwich help their team lose possession so easily

patrickmuf:
Expert17 doesn't want to see any fault in Bruno, rather he blames Fred whilst eph12 on the other hand thinks Bruno is the reason we can't keep the ball...

The truth is in between but agenda must agend...

How can you blame a player that had the highest attempted and successful passes for the team's inability to keep the ball? Why?

Expert17:
If our defenders (Telles, Maguire,Lindelof and Dalot) can distribute passes better than our central midfielders (McFred) then we can't play possession football.

Your first name here should be Bruno. How do you play possession football with the way Bruno likes to play?

If you honestly believe this team can't play possession game against the Norwich of this world, then we shouldn't have sacked Ole.

LostMyZeal:
I watched the match and saw Fred's moves especially in the second half - he did good.


But the truth still remains: we can't play a possession game with McFred

We need new midfielders

Yeah we need a new team, even a new club if you ask me.

Bruno, Rashford and co were the reason we weren't keeping hold of the ball, but it's always mcFred that's the scapegoat. This thing be like witchcraft

LostMyZeal:
How are we supposed to play possession game with your beloved lame fred in midfield

What sort of magic is that

You didn't watch the match, that's fine. Maybe you were busy, or couldn't find where to watch it. But the stats against Norwich are still on the internet, please check them. Then come back and edit this

engrelvis:
I DNT really understand dis uproar.ok we didn't play well.same with Chelsea,man city n Liverpool.Am nt making excuses for him( RR) but dis is his 3rd game in charge.football isn't magic.journalist all over seems to love bashing us esp dat idiot Gary Neville of sky sport.Everybody Shud just chill.RR came at a time when football matches is at its peak in epl.No really Time to prepare.Tuesday match will b better

You want to compare how we played with how the others played yesterday? Or na just scores you dey look?

ChristineC:
the season can't act as training, there are trophies to fight for. I see no reason we should write the season off.

Well let's see how it goes

Expert17:
Or he was trying too hard to look for CR7/create a chance?

Don't forget he's the most creative player in EPL.

He should stop trying too hard.

Expert17:
Austin Jay Jay Rashford was trying to dribble 2 - 3 defenders throughout the game.

While Bruno couldn't differentiate between his teammates and that of Norwich. He spent most his time passing to a Norwich player.

ChristineC:
we have to be careful about changing too much too soon. if players start falling like flies to injuries, the season will end worse than it started. it was obvious to every discerning eye how tired the whole team played, even from the start of the game.
those trying to lay blames on individuals should understand that fitness levels are conditioned at preseason. trying to recondition in season must be a gradual thing, and the use of the whole squad has to be proportionate to avoid large scale injuries.

You have a point.

If you ask me, this season should act as a training for next season. I'm not sure what we can still win this season. So let them run their socks off, and by February, it's already clear to everyone those that can't be here by August next year.

One thing Rangnick promised us was plugging the leak in defense. I'll say he's getting a pass mark there so far.

But I want to see the players run more biko. They just have to cover more spaces with speed whether with the ball or without the ball. Then can the players just calm down and play with themselves, instead of rushing to release the striker even when it doesn't make sense. They did that a lot yesterday, causing the team to turn over the ball almost every time we had it. We should hold the ball, let opponent chase shadows, then strike

Expert is waiting for Bruno to get one fortunate assist before commenting

metodman:
I think its because of the 4-5-1 formation from Norwich...its forcing Dalot and Telles to stay back instead of creating width

Nah we should be able to play no matter what our opponents put out especially when it's a much smaller team. There is no coordinated press here and that's on Rangnick.

LMAO this team has gone back to default settings. WTF is Fred sitting back instead of forcing the press? Why is nobody doing the press we saw last match?

melodyogonna:
Yet the new coach was pleasantly surprised at the intensity they showed on his first match. This doesn't hold any water. The only problem was the coach and his tactics (or the lack of it).

The intensity ended at 35 minutes. The players could barely cross the finishing line. That they were even able to do that much was a surprise to everyone. It was quite clear that this is not something these players have been doing before. I'm not sure where the confusion is here

melodyogonna:
Damaging the players in what ways? Whatever they learn wasn't just good enough to compete.
The players were obviously good psychologically, with a cohesive environment and good team bonding. A good, robust squad, with good mixture of age and experience. They just needed a better coach to take the team to the next level. Nobody damaged anybody

They were playing at a physicality level well below their peers. It wasn't just about tactics. Their level of fitness cannot be compared to their peers in other top clubs and that takes time to correct

Bombblacks:
But Phelan was there too under Ferguson for years. Ferguson kept him around for a reason.

What was his role under SAF? Is he doing same thing he did then?

melodyogonna:
So far as I can the problem was that his tactics wasn't good enough.

His training methods was damaging the players. Players train so that they can do same in real matches. There was no evidence that they were learning anything new during training

melodyogonna:
What are the damages Ole wrecked on the team?

Passive football

Searchingvictor:
Has Pogba ever been tried in that no 10 position before sha?

Yes he has

Illimitable:
Salah is a bully.

I doubt he’s ever lost any duel or 50-50 tussle with an opponent. He must win the ball no matter what. He looks short but he’s so thick.

Very strong on the ball. Greenwood needs to get to that level asap

Illimitable:
Greenwood needs to enter the gym and bulk up. The natural ability is there but he’s physically hopeless. He needs to get in shape like Mbappe or Haaland to become a modern day centre forward.

Successful modern day strikers are physical monsters(Lewandowski, Ronaldo, Benzema, Suarez, Kane, Mbappe, Lukaku) - their physique enables them to go pound for pound against towering monsters like Bonucci and Chiellini. Someone like Greenwood would get eaten up by the Italian defenders no matter what he does.

The physique of a striker is becoming increasingly important in modern day football. The talent and the technique are not enough if he’s going to the get to the very top. Dude needs to leave Manchester chics alone for now, get into the gym and become a freak.

Even Salah. You can't easily shrug him off the ball

I'm not sure what you were expecting from a DVB-Mata-Lingard midfield though