₦airaland Forum

Chukazu:
you mean 90k for borehole?

please send me contact ASAP

Yes Oh in PH

Mayor78:
Following cost of water at N4,000 per thousand litres of water, and considering that we would require loads through the course of this project, I reluctantly sought the services of some artisans for orthodox borehole digging. It was strange what happened during the negotiating stage as I did that directly with them without them realising where I was calling from. My cousin invited three groups from Awka, Oba, and Asaba to come and give quote. The ones from Awka were the first to arrive early morning last Friday, and after inspecting the site, I asked that he put them on phone. So we entered into negotiations.

Here is the excerpts from our negotiation;

Me: Heelo what is your name?

Negotiator: Oga na Akpan

Me: (I quickly remove my pants on fire and told him) I no be Oga, Oga's dey Abuja I dey Ihiala LGA here where I dey work for Oga's)

Negotiator: OK sorry sir

Me: You be Calabar man

Negotiator: Yes sir

I went in to settle him first to feel somewhat close to home

Me: OK, that's good because we already have a very good Calabar guy leaving and working for years for my in-law very close to the site their.

Negotiator: That's good sir!

Then try placing him in anxious mode to defend his handwork.

Me: So Na you go do the job abi you be contractor?

Negotiator: Nooo! I no be contractor, na me go do the job with some boys I go call whey we don dey work together before.

Me: OK! You don dey work for how long?

Negotiator: Oga, I don dey work for like 5 years oooh!

Me: 5years dey work for somebody or what?

Negotiator: No 5 years working for my selfoooo!

Me: So you wan tell me say you sabi work and you fit do the work well well with 5 years working experience?

Negotiator: Yes Oga I sabi work , we go do am well well, no problem, we don work many places, I show your brother pictures of our work sir.

Me: OK make I take am say you sabi and say you go do am well well for me now.

Negotiator: Yes Oga

Despite warnings the guy can't stop using Oga - artisans negotiating strategy consciously placing your status above theirs. Anyway, I continued, allowing little sigh of relief, I proceed to the main issue.

Me: You don see the place you go do the work?

Negotiator: Yes, your brother don show me the corner, its good their oga. We go do am there, no problem.

Me: OK, so how much you go take do the work?

Negotiator: Oga na N900,000 we go take do am, complete am.

Disillusioning exclamation aimed at lowering expectation following the bombshell

Me: Whaaaat!!! (loudly exclaimed) 900 whaaaat?

Negotiator: Oga na N900,000 because we go dig a, cast am and we go pay workers, rent generator, buy tipper trip of shipping, buy 50 bags cements, buy 90 pieces Y12 iron rod, pay welder to construct casting model, do the casting!

Me: Are you joking?

Negotiator: Oga Nooo!! the work too much and we go do am well well, na so we dey do am.

Me : You think say if you begin to beat me, you fit get N900,000 for borehole, you no get brother whey be government worker?

Negotiator: I get sir.

Negotiator: Him tell you say dey dem pay N900,000 in month working a Local government?

Negotiator: No sir, Oga.

Me: You think say he go save N900,000 after a year for him work?

Negotiator: I no think so Oga

Me: So why you wan make I pay you N900,000, come! how many months you go take do the job?

Negotiator: Oga months ke, - I go take gbatagbata 1month.

Me: You see am so, na one month work you wan charge me N900K whey go take me more than a year to get for where I dey work, you wan make I owe you when you finish working for me?

Negotiator: Oga Nooo!!! Oga tell me wetin you wan pay.

Me: No na you go tell me wetin you go take work for me, then I go shake if I go fit pay you when you finish as you no wan make I owe you.

Negotiator: OK Oga, make u pay N750k sir because we go buy materials, rent generator, pay workers, do am well well, I no charge you Oga.

Eeeh! the guys really came with cutlass to shop off my head. Anyway after listing the things to buy and sensing that he may not have costed them I quickly went for the jugular question,

Me: So how much is your workmanship?

Negotiator: Oga na N450 sir.

Note the double Oga, and Sir, money matter, he condescends to the last aiming for a below the belt punch for an ego junkie. Well, not me. As soon as he mentioned N450k, I knew I had him because a rough mental calculation of the material may not reach N300K. My target is to do the work within N350-400K. Then I remembered the Ijebu man Egunmogaji and his avowed negotiating skills, and we resumed;

Me: I would provide every materials and pay N50K cash in full.

Negotiator: Aaaah Oga! (the guy shout!) that one no go do am now Oga!

Me: Check am now materials too expensive and the things to buy many well well, I provide that and pay N50K.

Negotiator: Oga e no reach, make you pay N300K.

Me: N300K dey too much for one month job, would you do the job at N100K.

Negotiator: No Oga I no charge you, make you pay us N280K.

Me: Look I get friends whey dey build around the area whey still need borehole jobs, if we settle and you do the job well well I go tell them to give you the job, and since you can finish one job in one month, I have about six other people which means you are sure of being busy around here in the next six months.

Negotiator: OK Oga make you pay us N250K.

Me: Well you still dey high, just let me know your final quote, we do already invite some Hausa groups coming this morning to quote for the job and they don do work for one man not far from here in the past. Their work is good and fast. If they come give better quote we go give them the job.

Negotiator: Oga we wan do the work for you make we show you our handwork, we go do the work finally with N200K just to show you.

Me: Is that your final final?

Negotiator: Oga I go carry 4 people come work and we go do the job well make we leave am at N200 abeg.

Me: Let me talk to my cousin.

After talking to my cousin, he agreed that we give them the job as the picture they showed him was a neat job and they are the ones in the pictures.

Me: Akpan, Its OK I have decided to give you a trial. If you do the work well, you will get other works.

Negotiator: That's OK Oga but abeg when you tell your friends add something for me abeg Oga.

Me: What price?

Negotiator: Oga N350K dey good abeg.

Me: OK, do mine well first and we will see. When are you starting?

Negotiator: Today, we will continue work now and go home in the evening to bring more people and the rest of tools Oga.

Me: That sounds nice, go ahead then, my cousin will discuss mobilisation with you and the materials would be ready for you.

So finally, borehole job out at N200K. If I do that within N400K, I would be happy as a guy close to me did his with N650K, and one other did his at N750K. I would consider N400K a bargain provided the standard is quality. We will see.

Damn we are lucky at PH them I did mine for N90 Bore hole plus Pump inclussive.

idris4r83:
35pcs of blocks per bag of cement? That's outrageous. It's damn too dare o. If it's 35pcs it's better to buy engine compressed blocks cos the price will even b cheaper. Anything short of 50pcs of 9inches blocks per bag is a loss. At least 50 should b target point per bag if not then no gain sir.

You are right.I did solid @30 to 35 per bag.

Chukazu:
@mayor OP.

the trip of sand is a bit on high side, I bought mine for 8k which is quite cheaper compare with 12k you were giving.

and is the same eastern part.

Can I ask how many Bucket do you have per yip?
Mine was 5 buckets cost N28K

EgunMogaji:
I have smartphones for key players on my site. I can recharge the phones from here.



It will be a miracle if I don't do borehole next month. I'm sick of the yanga from the water folks.




Excellent.

Take your time. One of the beauties of all this concrete blocks is that you can leave them for a while unlike wood.

Ahaha baba you beat me to it
@Mayor welcome to the best thread on NL..This is the best we can do bear something in your heart. Put it on paper and make it go live. We are all here doing same from USA Canada to the UK and South Africa. There is wealth of expirience here to guide you through and mass savings tips as well.Ijebu guys are present here too** Runs quickly to hide from U know who**

bonechamberlain:
is buhari the person pursuing the loot, cause he said abacha didn't steal.

Na dem dem

Ahmedhussain3463:
ok so u wnt me to tell u wht e dne wrong abi?

Or else we dnt have a base for argument

honmusa:
your compressor clutch current requirement is around 4-5 Amp for most car. Tell me that u don't your feel the effect of drag on your car performance whenever your Ac compressor is engage especially when moving from rest. The essence of the compressor clutch system is to act as switching system to be triggering on or off the Ac compressor whenever necessary and note that the switching off and on effect is to protect the evoparator from over freezing .

The AC compressor in a car drives the air conditioner. Unlike an AC compressor in the home, it is not driven by an electric motor. Instead, it is directly driven by a belt attached to the engine. An AC compressor uses a lot of energy, so it is not practical to run the compressor all the time. The AC compressor clutch serves to turn the air conditioning on only when it is needed.
ie there is nothing like freezing over, the gas involved goes from liquid to its original gas state.

Ahmedhussain3463:
lols,dnt wori d court will tell y it's sending him to prison wen d times come

Nah wrong answer, I have seen cases where people do not even know of what offence he has committed yet argue over.

abbey621:
Of course they have to identify to the judge but they are still considered anonymous. In the case of a jury, a witness that has chosen to be anonymous will not go in front of a jury, it contradicts the entire principle.

Yes but still if they chose not to be in front of the jury. They still get to know thier name history and evidence. .So in a country like Nigeria where nothing is secured you know the rest.

abbey621:
No because I was on the side of the defendant but one of the witness for the prosecution had to testify in the judge's chamber because he was a high profiled celebrity, till now I still don't know his name or face.

Well this is what I meant.they have to identify themselves to the judge still

abbey621:
If you went through the link, you'll understand that witnesses can stay anonymous depending on the case. Do you understand what anonymous means? I've also been a witness to many cases involving the insurance company I used to work for so I know what I'm saying!

Did you in ur case undergo witness protection??

Ahmedhussain3463:
i pray ipad leader serve his jail time in zamfara or katsina prison

What's his offence again?

abbey621:
If you went through the link, you'll understand that witnesses can stay anonymous depending on the case. Do you understand what anonymous means? I've also been a witness to many cases involving the insurance company I used to work for so I know what I'm saying!

Anonymous to the people in the court room and the defendant /accused. Not to the Judge or jury.
This is why they ha e extended witness protection of it goes further.My point is still valid,the witness must identify themselves to the judge and jury if not a blind person. Or a colour blind person can testify they saw something when they never did.

ChristineC:
Does this mean they won't identify themselves in court? If not, their testimony will be dismissed.
So what's the point?

This is what I'm trying g to tell abbey621

abbey621:
Stop saying what you don't know! There are many different types of witness protection measures not just video link and witnesses can remain completely anonymous to the general public if there's a case for it. If you read my post well, you'll notice what I said about testifying in the judge's chamber, the whole testimony can be made without anyone being in the court. Take a look at this link for more information

https://www.unodc.org/documents/human-trafficking/Toolkit-files/08-58296_tool_5-18.pdf

Plz read what I wrote there and tell me the diffrence between what's on the link you paste.I have been involved closely with witness protection in the UK.
Check whatever means they use.the witness must identify themselves.

Montaque:
This ruling will not stand on appeal. Seeing that the court had earlier on disapproved on it and cannot decide it all over again.
Anyway, the defense would like to get done with the case to determine kanu's legal position as fast as possible.

I agree.the evidence won't stand if the witness do not identify themselves? They wot be credible. If the courts allows this it would be a very bad presidence

ellacute45:
Even though I don't support IPOB hmmmm why should the witnesses shield their face Buhari hmmmmmm

Exactly. What are they scared of. Would they not identify themselves? ?

abbey621:
This is a welcomed development. In advanced countries and where there is evidence of intimidation, witnesses are first screened by the judge with both counsel present in his chambers, this ascertains the credibility of the witnesses before they can testify under a screen or a shield.

Nop in advanced countries you are put under witness protection . You must say your name and identify yourself .you may appear via video link but you must identify yourself.So what's the screen for?of they Identify themselves in court?

seunmsg:
The court should just allow a closed door trial of these guys. That's the only way to get over all these problems of suspected abduction and witnesses refusing to testify for fear of possible attack.

No reasonable person will want to physically testify against Kanu and his accomplice when Ipob thugs are everywhere in the court. The court should act now to protect the witnesses.

Including you?

NgeneUkwenu:
Stale!

That was meant to be SACA

LemonBoy1:
Controversy Theorist

Says who?
This also happened during the tax feeze on airline part purchase during the early 90s

koligs:
OGA, KEEP YOUR HOPE HIGH.
THE GOOD LORD THAT CAN TURN SAUDI ARABIA TO A MEGA RICH COUNTRY WILL TURN NIGERIA TO A GREAT COUNTRY

People are not as greedy in Saudi as we are in Nigeria.

sweetgala:
Since you are aware that the main casualties of the insecurity of BH why then have you resolved to stop the president from stopping the menace.

Why have so many Christians become so bitter about a Muslim president who practises his religion. The country was not set on fire when GEJ was frequenting Isreal to pray for deliverance and doing the bidding of CAN

We are a democracy not a religious state.there is no religion in politics. The UK govt don't practice Christianity in governance even though it was built in Christian values. Same as Italy. When you mix politics and religion yoy get Syria. Palestine and isreal. Also BH.He PMB shud shove religion apart and deal with the problem at hand.

sweetgala:
The president is not speackiy of the great Nigerian Army, which is a tribe unto itself if heros and heroines from across the country.

He is speaking of the bloody civilians and wailers who never have anything good to say about the president and find fault in him being a Northern Muslim, those are the idiots that can stop shouting "he wants to islamise Nigeria", pick up a rifle and go to sambisa

So U don't know Muslims wail too.the vast majority of the dead in the North are Muslim or you forgot
U are reasoning like PMB.

Sweetlemon:
Buhari said a very bitter truth.
Some Christians (Nigerian Christians) Can be so annoying I don't blame atheists sometimes.

So in ur book no Christian in the Nigerian army fighting BH right? Did you not see the photo of on praying with his Bible? Or do Muslim now pray with the bible? ?
We should be wise. Even if he held such views. The should be kept in his prejudice heart not laid bare to the world.That's more like knocking ur country down if U ask me.

sweetgala:
Shut up , he said what I would have said and I am an active Christian. So many people in the south have this strong opinion that intends to debase anyone north of the Niger and Muslims as inconsequential beasts, lacking in education and therefore should not be considered.

They are more concerned if they hear of a church bombed but never care about the more than 5 mosques bombed and Muslims killed.

Nigeria has an equal population of Christians and Muslims, we have provided support for western Christian based caolitions under NATO and done their bidding in Liberia, Sierra Leon and Somalia without anyone having a problem.

We are suffering from a serious dreg, individuals who have taken territory in the past and have allied with ISIS a global threath all under the false banner of Islamic idealisms, it is most appropriate that the central country for correct Islamic doctrine establishes a coalition of fellow Muslims who would crush these animals be it Boko Haram , ISIS, Al Queda in the magreb, Al shabab and Nigeria being a victim of these animals should be part of that.

The president is correct any Christians who have a problem with it should join the fight, so many times good Muslims have been told to address this matter and now they are doing just that.

Crap talk.so U mean no xtian are there fighting the troops?so the whole NA are made up of Muslim right? Plz stop that thing making you high. The number one citizen is not meant to put any one of his people down.

menxer:
You need a forex savings account which i bet a domiciliary account is not.

I use the word *Saving* but not meant as in savings account.
let me rephrase it,
how about if I want to deposit forex in my Dom account for up to 10 yrs

asuustrike2009:
Dem neva rape una sisters before for dat area? Wen dem start non complain oh

story 4 the gods

bigass123:
He was in China on vacation

lozanni:
Blaming these Nigerians with the $20 billion domicilliary accounts is counter-productive as this can cause them to move those funds to foreign banks like countless Nigerians in business, the academia and politics who own many foreign accounts.
The Government should work to achieve long term stability in the exchange rate between the naira and other convertible currencies so that these Nigerians can have the full confidence to keep their earnings in naira.
The Government can borrow the $20 billon in the domicilliary accounts through issuance of dollar denominated treasury bills, with income far above the current rate earned by domicilliary accounts in Nigeria, wnhich will be guaranteed by major banking groups, like the Paris group of bankers, to guarantee the safety and viability of funds to the owners of the domicilliary accounts.
Commandeering the funds, like Argentina did, will have serious long term negative consequences on the economy because the human memory is very long and the Super-rich will not forget this in a hurry as many of them are still lamenting the effect SAP under IBB had on their assets and naira account balances, hence the decision by many of them to hold domicilliary accounts till the present day.

Now this is an adult talking

menxer:
The bolded makes sense to me, as domiciliary account don't get paid interest (or does it?). any business transactions it is supposed to pay for would have been finalized within that period else it's kept for speculation or out of fear which drives the vicious cycle we are in.

How about if I plan to save forex for 10 years?