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yeh I agree wi th you on the 2nd line right there, but we are Nigerians eh, what do you think,hence we are developing Nation and a third world copuntry, but E go better,The average Nigerian dont have the money to afford a new car, even those we call brand new cars in Nigeria ie KIA,they are crap, you wont find thier spec here in Europe or America,the developed special ones for the Nigerian mkt

@dayokanu
save ur breath bro, people dont seem to think Nigerians abroad are doing xtreemly well in these dificult situation,just a few stupid elements are putting th sh**t on us  but thats true with any society, good eggs and bad ones exists,cost of living is proportionate to earnings here if you can manage,not same in Nigeria,its either its too much fru bribes  and loathing or its too small by wages being stollen or ghost workers amongst existing ones.

@ all yah dising people who strugle abroad, in Nigeria today, do you realy think a poor man can travel out of the country?moreso, migrating is not a bad idea,we all have our own reasons  and its personal,everyone's xpirience is diffrent some good some crap,so just B4 you dis others on here, if you where not born in the Uk,US or where ever you live abroad, take a look at your record,if you did not lie at one point or traveled for the wrong reason eh?like our dear initial poster, he now has a US citizenship, we all know the score and how long it takes to achive that,why E no vex come home eh since E be say we all need proper documentationt o go there.

[quote author=George_D link=topic=559461.msg7325497#msg7325497 date=1292242926]erico,
even with that, you'll never catch the met police dead in a 20 year old BMW![/quote]lol not realy their Cars are usually from 55 plates,I was just stressing the importation of cars ain't bad thingy,to my conclusion, if a car is maintained and is road worthy then its all good to go anywhere for a happy new owner,just so you know, I have seen two years old cars here which suddenly become unroadworthy and fail MOT lol

@ikena
Spot on, you've just wrapped the whole argument !
@georgeD
check this,the MET Police force which is the bigest in the whole UK have BMWs as thier main pursuit car,does that mean they are stupid for importing a foriegn car?
secondly,there is a huge market in imported cars in teh Uk ie from JAPAN cos they are RHD,but the diffrence is rather than put age limits on cars imported to the Uk, they pay more concern on the road worthingness of the car and if it fits EU standars and this is not done at the ports though but by your Insurance and when registration is going to take place.

Glad this thread is helping loads of people

80neko:
I found this topic searching through the Internet because I have same problem.
I'm not from Nigeria, I'm from Serbia, but I guess it's not important in this case.

I've been refused due the famouse Paragraph 281 ("you will not be able to maintain yourself adequately blah blah blah)

I have 26 days more left to submit my appeal.
I'm just curious what is the rate of successful appeals and how to assure them that we would be able to live without public funds?

How did you finished whole this process?

Thank you in advance.

this is where the weight of what your sponsor does for living comes in,she has to prove beyond reasonable doubt that she can support you and any dependants till you are able to find work
Sometimes including certificates and documentations of skills acquired also helps as in my case, and more so, do you have kid/s?

Dis Guy:
when i say pollution, i'm not just taking about smoke that comes out of the exhaust I'm talking generally about the content of the 'air' that comes out of the exhaust- the CO2 emissions

You do know car tax is calculated partly with the amount of CO2 emissions, that's why green cars are exempted from the congestion charge

Well, so you are telling me the CO2 emissions gonna increase just cos its destination 9ja?well if dont change then its sa me situation world wide lol no biggie, so CO2 in UK/US IS SAME IN Nigeria unless one fails to do proper service or maintainance and that is down to the owner no the fact that the car is 15 years Old,correct me if Im wrong.

Dis Guy
I dont think you get what Im trying to say, Cars here dont smoke at all at all,if your car emits that much smoke to cos concern, you will be stopped fined and your car removed promptly from public roads.So in a short sentence, smokey cars dont realy drive on roads here.

@Dis guy and ugo
I totaly disagree with you guys, just cos a car is termed 2nd hand dont necessary mean they are faulty, cars are well looked after her in the developed countries,my Bosses cars is nearly 25 yrs old,over here in the Uk, we have valid MOT test center and as you know, its done yearly and teh combustion test is the first part of the MOT test, if it dont pass that its a fail and you got to sot it b4 you try again, and also dont 4get, that the Eu has agreed to implement the Low emission Zone in the Uk I know its within the M25, there are cameras ready to snap your vehicle if you level of emission goes above the required limits,in my opinion, all cars made from 1997 have at least %50 identity as the newest 60 plates in town.

lol intresting topic
@Op some girls een wanna get married at 23 lol anywa for all yah ladies talking about education, who told you guys Marriage stops you from being educated,,should education be a reason for you to delay marriage? secondly someone here said something about not dating thier age mate lol I say wake up, the world has evolved lol,in this new wolrd we are finding ourselves,women are for ever more less dependant on men and its impressive to see girls go to shows,pay for thier own tkt wow lol,but you know whatNO GIRL WOULD EVER ADMIT THAT THEY ARE DESPIRATE lol but they are, when you chat a girl who is above 27 she tells you she is not into Bf/gf thingy lol marriage straight,na wah, but in all ,I think the overall perception is that women have evolved and are just not budging to being used.

@Ikenna
you are so funny lol now seriously do they still manufacture them cars? 505 lol thought they where long gone,the browning rusty water is not coming from your rad but from engine walls,i totall understand waht you meant by people being naive buying stuff they should not realy bother about in the first intance.here in the Uk there are addictives for summer and winter, thats where the issue of antifreeze comes in and on a serious Note, I dont think your radiator can be rusty, damaged and leaky yes but not rust,its not made of complete iron,check the compound its welded with.

@ikenna351
most of what you are sugesting here had already been answered in the beginning of this thread, but regarding the rusty radiators you where talking about, what materials was it made of,most radiators are mae of aloys that dont react with water which means they cant rust and they have high resistance to heat,further more there are retailers who sell imported products in the Nigerian market moreso, the term Antifreeze does not apply to Nigeria,
ie Antifreeze menas preventing something from freezing,now we dont have any kind of weatehr that could make the water in your radiator or engine freeze.
lastly the internal Engin temperatur is same for same spec of vehicle world wide in full working capacity and average speed regardless of where they are.(check temp gauge in the car)nidle stays in the middle
here in the Uk the number one cause of likky rads are chips on the road.

manuch:
yes my wife was in nigeria and i used a lawyer here in the u.k for her spouse visa.

oh I see, so the lawyer arranged all teh Docs and sent it to the british high commision in Nigeria?

manuch:
my advice is to you is to use a lawyer in the uk .that's what i did it costed me £450 they made sure all my documents were in order and go through it before it was submitted.

The guy seems to be in Nigeria,how is he meant to use lawyers from the Uk to submit his application when it is meant to be submitted in Nigeria by the applicant?,I think you are describing a total diff catigory here,dont you think so?in country and outcountry?

luvedup:
hello NL folks, i need your help on this issue, my fiancé has invited me to the UK for december all expence paid, the problem is i only hav fifty thousand naira in my account, and i hav been informed that i need about 500,000 naira in my accout if i want to apply for a tourist visa. my guy cant give me his account details but is ready to foot the bill for my trip.
please advice me on what to do i really want to go vist him

I like to just deviate a lil bit, this guy you talking of is your sup FIANCE and he dont want to give you his account details,why is that ? when you say all xpenses paid is that paid by him or you? if he is invitinf you he hsa to give you original copies of bank stats and bills,no short cuts or else 4get Invitation/family visit that leas you to boost up your account fot the tourist VISA,hope this helps.

Siena:
^^^ Oh yeah? More secure than DHL, FEDEX or UPS?

, I bet he aint gonna answer that, Nigerians  always come up with strange ideas  in the wrong directions.

@muskham
that leaves you in same boat as cutefinger,your friend has to go back to Nigeria and sort it out,there aint no more short cuts, I did same.

@vicjustice
I get yah , but that dont apply to UK,i think thier immigration rules differ,anyway,lets wait for the guy to respond to all what we've said and asked.
@muskham
Could you answer justwise's question.

@vicjustice,
I just realised you aint in the Uk hence you dont know much bout this, anyway let me break it down for you,when you marry a british citizen or someone settled here in the Uk, you apply for a settlement Visa and you get what is caled a spouce VISA, its duration is 27 months,this cost £644,you have to pay in local currency worldwide,in nigeria this translates into N150,000 plus.then at the end of the 24th month providing you two are still married and intend to live together you then apply for and Indefinit leave to remain ILR, and it in turn cost between £800-£1000 depending on if you want Same day service or postal application,and these are both non refundable,ope this makes it clearer now,check that link i gave above,cos thats what I had to pay as well.

Vicjustice:
Yes, application for EEA/Swiss nationale family member permit (visa) to the UK does not require visa fee

ah you are wey behind time my friend, it the highest in the visa fees,,do you know howmuch I paid for mine?N150,000,plus comission, it cost (£644)and it does not end there, when you want to apply for the ILR, it cost between £800-£1000, depending if you want same day service or postal application.

Here
http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/howtoapply/visafees/visafeessettlement

@vicjustice,
when you said thak God he is applying for spouce visa hence its free,did you mean he does not have to pay money to apply for spouce Visa?

@segzybaba
from April2009 if you have been in Uk illegaly and returned back abroad to marry ie Nigeria, its automatic one year wait, kind of ban,i will find out and give us the right details later
@cutefinger
I think I have to agree with vicjustice when he raised concern bout welfare of your wife since she is still a student,reason is she has to earn anough money to be able to take care of both of yah till you find work and also try and answer the other questions bout kid(s),in my own case the only reason I was granted my spouse Visa then was cos I have a child.

@cutfinger
thanks for the follow ups of my post,this forum is simply awesome
Now vicjutice has asked you few questions, we would like you to answer them for best advice possible
secondly just as he says,your past i mmigration history will definately play an important role,its serious bissunes here when it comes to Spouce Visa,you will also notice that amongst the thousands waiting to submit forms at the embassey,there would just be les than 10 of you guys submiting forms for spouce visa.
Now Im more worried bout the stats of your wife,does she own/rent her own home?does she have any recourse to public funds?does she work ?does she have bills o n her own name?
let me point out here that her proof of Income,Addres is what counts,yours dont mean anything as she is your sponsor,in my own case, I did not even own a bank account in Nigeria let alone proof of income lol
And I suggest you pay attention to the ban bit, and the removal part,answer the questions vicjustice raised ASAP and we could tell you the best way possible.good luck bro

@eghost
there is no proper yard stick to mesure but in general,I recon the Uk is better for Nigerians,you can excel,get better job, raise a proper family if you are into all that.There are Nigerians who are doctors,lawyers,Engineers,Policemen,Immigration officers etc, but in other EU countries, these cant be possible and we all know good job means more money and more money means better standard of living.my 2 pence

Guys It will take the death of all the Politicians and thier families in ABJ on that road for it to be rectified,its a very small problem to address but yet such a big problem to activate,every time I pas fru that road, i get ill when I get home.if you happen to be from Delta state you would breathe a sigh of relief once you get to the benin by-pass.

rotimiland:
;Dbombers?

lol Guy I tire, inside bus, E dey look 4 Bombers, what of inside the Tube or plane lol

OgaMadam:
Erico,

yes my 8 year stay was legal.

Ok got yah, the reason I was asking is that, there was a lot you could have dont to have ILR in the UK for 8 years,mayB its the circle you was in aint into al that, well for starters, you dont need to buy a TKT B4 Visa, what if you dont get the VISA?its gonna be a lil tough as you now overstayed for 8 months plus thats on record,appart from the books do you have any other strong UK ties? ie kid(s) fiancee?

@segunben
to be honest with you,it could take three months,mine did,the watch word here would be patiance,cos the Uk system is slow but steady especialy ur catigory of VISA where no one then you would be suffering.

@Vicjustice
You are absolutely right there my bad., but you see, I went fru the UK system and I am confident with it laws regarding Spouse,ILR,if you ask me anything outside that I'm like 00 lol ohyeh I'm sure other Eu guys would chip in a thing or two when we get to that bridge.

ctrume:
and she stayed off campus truout d duration of her stay in skull, but wat has d residence type got to do with the application?

oh I see ET,Ok adding that to my Vocab tnx,orite, if you where planning to stay with her then where she lived would have come into play, but since you aint staying with her and in a hotel then no biggy.

@snowdrops
Sup with you? relax its sunday, can't you see the funny side of it?stop taking everything serious!!,I'm still laughing though.