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In other news disappointed for the Hornets. That game 6 they blew came back to haunt them. The east is looking too easy for Cavs even though all games against the Pistons were close.

They need Curry. Even if not for this series over 7 games but they definitely need him. There is something lacking when he isn't there. I can't explain it.

Klay is a big scorer and a defensive asset but Curry's distribution makes his game easier. With Curry today, this game would have been a blow out.

I was worried that the GSW bench kept getting outscored by the Blazers bench. Didn't set a good precedence all game but GSW played very good defence on Colum and Lilliard (only spotting them difficult shots).

I know many will praise Klay and Green for today, but my player of the game was Bogut. He is an absolute rim protector.

I suspect game 2 may be closer if Warriors bench do not deliver. I don't see Blazers beating GSW over 7 games. So I am calling it in 5 or 6 because GSW won't lose back to back games.

Nihilist:
I think you lack basic comprehensive skills.

The point here is that Barca are a team so strong that even when their manager was dying, and they were managerless In a manner of speaking, they were still able to romp to the title.

Vilanova's successors were able to replicate Pep's success in varying degrees despite a crucial lack of winning experience.

How many managers win the Apex league of a major European country at first attempt? How many won the European trophy at first attempt? How many coaches did this with a team not called Barca?

The rest of your post is either irrelevant or hot garbage. I can see you going on about some cockroach or what not. Please don't quote me again

I don't lack anything. Your dead Roach metaphor was Tito on his sick bed winning a title. I am surprised nobody called you out for the disingenuousness of not correlating how Pep's assistant who had the template but was lacking only in health and Je ne sais quoi could steer his already made team to another title.

Tito's successors save Enrique didn't replicate anything Pep did and I called you out again for the hollowness of that assertion.

The needless rhetorics and defensive retorts will only intimidate people who take note of certain monikers before responding. Perhaps, if quoting your post was the hallmark of true success in life, maybe only the NLders in the football section will be successful.

Nihilist:
Please don't dumb this discussion down by focusing on minor points/semantics

The only logical inference we can draw your post is that the difference between Genius and Great Coach is the the Super Cup, which in itself is a rather stuppid thing to imply

The entire point of this discussion is to show that Pep's success has been more or less replicated 3 successive managers without a previous history of winning.


If a dead coach, a coach lacking experience, and a donkey can all record successes with the same team at first attempt, then where is the proof that Pep is special?

Especially when he can't seem to replacate his success outside Barca?

Jose won UCL with Porto, went to Inter and won it again. After he left neither of those teams have won it again.

Pep won UCL with Barca. After he left, he can't win it again. Yet Barca continues to win UCL in Pep's absence.

So what's special about Pep?

It's unfortunate if you felt my emphasis on the sextuple or in calling Pep a genius and Enrique a great coach was based on semantics.

What I would rather term as equally stuppid will be the notion that Tito winning just a league title, Tata winning nothing, and Enrique winning 5 out of 6 trophies is synonymous with replicating Pep's success. It is also superficial.

That Dead Cockroach won a league title when the Almighty Mou went trophyless in the same season with RM. So maybe that Dead Roach, is better than Mou?

If Pep breaking Jupp's record of winning the league with 7 games to go and adding the DFB-Pokal to it in his first season as well as playing a UCL semi-final is not him replicating some of his success at Barca, then I am lost for words.

Mou deserves his credit for winning the UCL with Porto and Inter, and whether another coach will replicate his success there is time based. Since Pep left Barca, they have won the UCL just once- last year, which means it is a stretch to say Barca continueS (now employing semantics)to win in his absence except you let me borrow from your school of reasoning and say that since RDM won a UCL with CFC (what Mou couldn't do) then every other achievement Mou had with Chelsea could easily be replicated.

afrodoc2:
Every other Argentine with hype and talent? Like Di Stefano, Kempes,Redondo and Maradona?
Let's not forget Ronaldo to is scoring goals at an alarming rate. There are several reasons why those 2 became so prolific and no 1 is their talent.......but their several other factors too

With the speed of typing some ideas will be dropped on the way. I was referring to the likes of Riquelme, Pablo Aimar, Carlos Tevez, Ariel Ortega, Aguero, Di Alessandro etc and any other argetine player dubbed the new Maradona.

Dadehmola:
Dayo, if Bayern fail to make the CL finals again, are you saying a Bayern fan doesn't have the right to be dissapointed at the "highly-rated" Pep, considering the tactical/selection flaws (albeit arguable) that could be associated with the team's exit at the hands of Real Madrid (and potentially against Athletico)?

It will definitely be a disappointment, but that's because his high achievements in the past will be juxtaposed with his achievements at Bayern.

Losing to RM was scandalous but you cannot have it both ways. Bayern wanted to DOMINATE first and win, they were only able to do one. With Madrid, you had the tactics and personnel that were capable of neuralizing Pep's system and they did with their defensive-counter attacking style with pacy wingers and the ultimate athlete in CR7.

People tend to forget that 3 goals in the 4-0 loss came from set-pieces.

Nihilist:
Messi was the 2nd best player in the world before Pep.
If you're the second best in the world at 21, why is it not logical to think that Messi would have eventually still become the beast that he is right now regardless of manager?

How come Pep has yet been unable to mould another Messi?

Messi was going to be like every other Argentine player with hype and talent. David Beckham had once finished top 3 in Ballon d'or before, he didn't go on to win any. Micheal Owen didn't win 4 more others.

Messi was a raw talent, but nobody raised him to the level of the football pantheon until he came across Pep.

Developing another Messi is not the only variable that should judge Pep's genius. Even players like Mandzukic that didn't like his style still enjoyed his most prolific era under Pep. Lewa, great as he has been has 46 goals in all competitions for club and country, he hadn't done this before Pep. Müller is being raised into the top players in the world. His most prolific season is still under Pep's management.

Nihilist:
Those strikers are currently the defending champions of UCL.
No team has been able to successfully defend the cup, including Pep's Barca, so the fact that barca are out now is a null point.
The undeniable fact is that Pep's crowning achievement of the treble was replicated by a manager who had never won anything in his managerial career before, and at first attempt too.
So a man who couldn't buy a win before came to Barca and started winning
A man who was winning everything before left Barca and now can't buy a win.
I'm sure you can see the glaring obvious
So let's start again...what has Pep actually done?

1. That no team has been able to successfully defend the UCL is not an Alibi for Barca not getting to the semis with the talent at their disposal.

2. Pep's crowing achievement was actually the SEXTUPLE, something Lucho hasn't been able to do with a better squad.

3. And because LVG will win an FA Cup does not mean that all the while Fergie was winning it, Fergie wasn't brilliant.

The point is Enrique is a very good coach but Pep is a genius.

raumdeuter:
Pep 4 years in Barca won 2 CL titles, lost 2 Semis. Post Pep Barca has won 1 CL title failed semi once and quarter finals twice with a swuad you can even argue was more talented than what Pep had. That is what Pep added to Barcelona

If a coach can consistently reach 7 straight CL semi, how many coaches reach that all their career. From semi onwards you need a lot of luck because all teams are equally matched Pep has played 5 semi matches with Bayern, the only result that is odd is losing 0-4 to madrid

Other results Are not unusual given the circumstances of both teams at the time of the match

With the array of talents at Barcelona they didnt win any treble before he got there, they were trophyless before he got there, they finished 18points behind the league winner before he got there he brought in a brand of football that awed everyone, the brand of football that won several CL, Euro cups and world cup Thats what Pep has contributed to football. In the last 20yrs no other coach has had that impact on the game

Bayern faced Peps team in 2008, After the match Our executives said, I would wish to build a team that plays like this in Munich

City started a project and their objective was to play like Barcelona, they got Txiki and Soriano but are not satisfied they want the man behind it Pep

Roman bought Chelsea and despite the wins he clearly said he wanted to win a certain way

No coach has influenced the way football is played in the past 20yrs like Pep has done, There is a reason many team directors want to play like he does because he not only wins, he dominates and win with swagga.

How many big teams would you see that would say I want to win by parking the bus or playing the Mourinho way, Its sweet when you are an underdog and suckerpunch a bigger team that way but when you spend money you want to win in a good way

Two students get A, One gets 100-A one gets 71-A, though both got A's but there is a difference with the person who got 100-A. if you send your kid to school and spend good money on him you would want him to get 100-a rather than 71-A

This is a brilliant post. Really.

A40:
Jupp overperformed with that 2011/2012 team. Our bench was DVB, Olic, Usami, Tymoschuk, Nils Petersen and sometimes Müller who was having his worst season yet.

Alaba was not even 20. Boateng and Badstuber were 23 and 22 respectively

Yes he won nothing but did not finish worse than 2nd. Pep with a more talented side is getting his a$s handed to him and I'm expected to applaud?

When he beats Atleti and gets to the Final I will give him some credit

I hate discussing Jupp's success in anyway that will sound like I am demeaning his achievements but you need to understand that in 4 seasons between Jupp and LVG, Bayern appeared in the final 3 times and in one of them Bayern did a treble yet nobody compares or compared them to Pep's Barca of 2008-09.

The reason is that Pep played a brand of football that was mesmerising to fans of Cules and opposing fans alike. It wasn't about tactical mastery or parking the bus in some games that Jupp and Mou may adopt depending on the team. It was an all out attacking football with a style that was fluid and easy to watch and that's part of what he was hired for.

Also I cannot tire to remind you that Pep was hired when nobody knew Bayern would do a treble. So he was being hired to do better than Jupp had done in 2012 essentially. Remember most of Jupps wins were purely tactical and scrapy? Even the win against Dortmund was, but compare that to the 2 finals Pep played where he basically destroyed United. Fergie even said they were given a hiding in the latter. That's why Pep was hired.

Stop judging based on if he can play "just about anything" to win games or trophies. He won't do that.

GBR1:
Your drivel is worthless to me. More substance and less of this please.

You don't know what you are on about. Madrid was a disgrace in those past 7 years before he brought sanity to that team in Europe. The galaticos policy preceded Mourinho and they still didn't have success in Europe in those periods. Mediocrity was Madrid getting rap.ed 4-0 by ordinary Liverpool and getting knocked out by Lyon even with the funds plunged. It's not a stretch to far to say if Jose hadn't improved Madrid by getting them to the semis, Ancelloti would have found it more difficult winning the CL. Do you really need me to explain this to you?


This your sorry attempt to save face won't fool anyone. You lied when you stated he improved them in his 3rd trial when he didn't even have a 3rd season. How he did it or what Pep did is not what is up for discussion, so stop pontificating aimlessly. He improved them in Europe, simple. Point proven, so move on.

This does not change my initial assertion. He improves his team in Europe. It's very simple. He doesn't take a team from making finals regularly to semi finalist. If he takes over a team making finals or who had just previously won the CL, it's not too difficult to infer he would have one at least one or or made the finals in 2 years. This is a simple inference from a fact but too bad we can't say the same about Pep.

What better Real team? The one that couldn't go past the round of 16 for about 7 years until he came? or the Bayern one that made 3 CL finals in 4 years, reached two finals consecutively and who had just won the CL when he took over? Logic has failed you here.
Again, it's obvious you find it so difficult to go against my analysis that's why you keep behaving like a straw man. Nobody even asked you for this explanation but you just invent it to debate because you are actually so empty regards the argument involved.
Don't be silly. Are you saying Chelsea were the CL winners when he came in? This is false. The same Chelsea that got knocked out in the group stages of the CL in Europa. This was the event in the CL that preceded his appointment and when he came in, he took that team to the semis of the CL and this is an improvement again, so i know exactly what i'm talking about here.

There was only one jinx which was the inability of Madrid to get past the round of 16 and he broke it at his first attempt so you had nothing there again.

I'm not trying to compare Pep and Jose because because it's obvious Pep has achieved so much in little time and he deserves a lot of credit for that so stop making this argument seem like that. Infact I'm bored of this debate already because we still haven't gone beyond the obvious.

1. I told you my frequency is beyond the realms of the ifs and maybes. That's pseudo-intellectualism. I don't understand why the timeline is 7 years all because you want to use strawmen to sustain a weak assertion. Did Galacticos policy not exist in 2000, 2002, 2003 when Madrid won 2 UCLs and played 1 semi-final? So why should I celebrate Mou for getting to 3 semis following the same money-frittering, star-aquiring policy? And what LFC team was mediocre? The same one that got to 2005 final and won? The same 2007 finalists? The same 2008 semi finalists?

So if without Jose, Ance wouldn't have won the UCL then without Ranieri Mou would not have gotten to the semis with CFC and without Mancini Mou wouldn't have won the UCL in 2010. How does that work for Mr (il)logic

Who is this balderdash-vending machine I am discussing with?

2. So if getting to 3 semis is improving on a team that was barely getting past the round of 16 (which is fair) then tell me how Pep is to improve on a team that just won the UCL? In your inane world getting to the final is improving on winning it?

3. Mou took a semi finalist side of 2005 and crashed them out in the round of 16 the following season. He truly improved them. Going by the bafflegab you keep spewing Mou should have gotten to the final in 2006 and probably won it in 2007. Let me tell you what he did? He crashed out in 2006 and he was fired in 2007. He came back 2014 and took a CFC side that had just won the UCL 2012, Europa 2013 and got them to a semi final in 2014. Going by your odeism he relegated a team from 2012 winners to 2014 semi finalists. 2015 we saw him crash out round of 16 again and 2016 he was fired again. But a manager that takes a team to 3 consecutive semi finals with the previous 2 times losing to the eventual winners is underperforming.

It is good you have nothing more to say. You have been saying nothing for a full day now so it only makes sense that you will have more of it to say.

A40:
You are shifting the goal post now. From zero end products to padded stats. At least we are making progress

Nope. Chamberlain has never had the season Coman is having. In fact if you add up all his assists combined in the CL it is not up to what Coman managed this season. Bear in mind Coman is almost 3 years younger. So no they are nothing alike

Now talking about your padding stats I can also say Suarez, Messi and Ronaldo are the biggest stats padders of all. Scoring the 3rd, 4th and 5th goal in an 8-0 rout of Deportivo Coruna is not stats padding?

6 goals and 11 assists for a winger at 19 is not beans. Such a player cannot be accused of lacking end product


A 19 year old winger cannot have an off day?


He topped the group winning the head to head vs the team that finished directly behind him. We had a close shave with Arsenal but he learned from his mistake and rolled out 5 straight wins. When has Guardiola done that in knockout competitions?

Jupp got to two finals in two years. If Pep is all that let him get us to just one in 3 attempts

1. No I didn't shift the goal post. You asked my definition of end product and I said so. Padded stats was my way of saying stats don't always tell the whole tale. Suarez can miss 7 easy chances in a game and score 3 penalties. The stats will say he had a hattrick, but watching the game, one may have told another story.

2. Again I am not taking anything from Coman, I know he is a good player.

3. We thank God for Jupp. Before his 5 straight wins and Treble season he went one where he won nothing and didn't have 5 wins on his way to the UCL final and I don't think many teams (if any) have had such a winning streak on a way to a final. So credit Jupp, but nonetheless for Mr consistency- Pep

GBR1:
He got Chelsea to the semis too.

When i said knock out stages, i didn't mean group stages. I meant the round of 16 and my assertion was right. Clearly comprehension isn't your forte. Madrid were actually unable to get past the round of 16 for about 7 years. 7 fe.cking good years. Mourinho comes in and in his first year he takes them to the semis and they got consistent in reaching the semis. I don't see how you can possibly downplay this.


This is another lie concocted by you. He improved Inter in his 2nd trial where he went past the knock out stages and won the CL(not after his 3rd trial as you falsely claimed). He didn't even have a 3rd season in Inter and it seems you have no idea of what you are talking about.
I'm not making up conjectures by saying ''would have been''s. My argument has always been he almost always improve every team in Europe and i still stand corrected. He would not take a Bayern squad that reaching the finals regularly and make them regulars customers for finalist or winners of the CL.
There's no need to ask me for this when you've been doing a great job yourself considering the post i just quoted.

This is 10 Zimbabweean dollars worth of piffle.

1.The semi finals are not KO stages? How did he get them past that? This must be the season for dumbo clats.

2. Why do I need to downplay beating Lyon, Auxerre, Tottenham and then failing to Barca, Bayern, Dortmund as achievements? Is this mediocrity o clock? So the Pep that has been reaching semis is doing less a job considering that since Mou left RM someone else has won La decima and there have been back to back semis for them but since Pep left Barca the same cannot be said.

3. 2nd Trial, 3rd trial, needless bloviations. He flopped one season. Added 7 players and did well. Big deal again. Pep inherited a Barca that needed to play qualifiers to be in the UCL and made them sextuple winners same season.

4. The emboldened is Kevin Hart material. I see you carefully inserted the word ALMOST to do damage control to your earlier brain-fart of an assertion. Good enough you stood to take the correction.

5. Again with the dumb hypotheticals which seems to be your thing. He took a RM squad constituting of atleast top 2 players in each position and went to back to back semis. But the illogic you guzzle as water wants to make you believe he will suddenly be reaching finals consistently with Bayern when he could not do it with a better RM team.

So pray tell, why didn't he take UCL winners of 2012 to another final with all the resources at his disposal? Why was he hell-bent on getting them relegated instead? Why didn't he break the jinx of consecutive semis with an expensively assembled RM team and get to 1 final?

Mehn, hit control +S on your BS ideologies about Mou and what he could have achieved for someone who cares and believes in ifs and maybes.

GBR1:
I'm not interested in derailing this thread so i would ignore the major part of your post which is irrelevant. I don't know how this your post is a reply what you quoted.
You have failed to address any of the points i raised instead. It's very simple. Mourinho always improves his team in Europe and this is a fact which you failed to disprove. I'm not interested in his legacy or whatever and if you can't address the point i raised, fine. Maybe i just expected too much.

Butthurt.

1. Mou always improves his team in Europe- No he doesn't. Ranieri had been to a semis with less of a team.

2. RM weren't getting past group stages prior to Mou- lies. They had played at least 3 2nd round games prior to him.

3. Mou improved in Inter in Europe, after 3 tries and 7 signings.

4. If he had been at Bayern. Hopeless hypotheticals. He had more resources at RM- zero finals. Great resources at CFC- no finals.

Any more illogic to peddle?

A40:
A 19 year old with 6 goals and 11 assists in under 2000 minutes of football has zero end product? I need to know your own definition of end product

He actually did beat Luis a few times, what let him down was his delivery

I am sure Chamberlain has had a season as this before. It is the beauty of padded stats. I am not saying Coman is not a good player. But by end product I mean his general finishing is very weak. If one was to look at the stats for example, I can guarantee 4 of his assists will come in games that Bayern scored say 3 or more goals and his assist may even be the last (which means the game was already sealed). Not taking anything away from him but just showing you how stats don't tell the whole story.

Your second statement just typifies it- his delivery let him down yesterday.

As for the team Pep has met, you beat what's in front of you. Jupp finished equal points with Valencia group stages with Bate and Lille and barely beat Arsenal in both legs. But he swept Barca. Football can be that way. Jupp played Basel and Marseille too before RM in 2012. Basel and Marseille are not exactly teams to dance about and RM was on penalties which Pep can still do with ATM.

GBR1:
Bros, i don't know about Ancelotti but i'm sure you would agree that Mourinho would have won those league titles Pep has managed to win. In Europe, Mourinho improves every single team he has taken over. He transformed a then ordinary Porto to win the Europa, then they won the CL the next season. He took Chelsea to the semis in his first stint. He dragged Inter to the finals and won the competition. Madrid had not got past the knock out stages in the CL for about 6 years but Jose took them to the semis in his first year and they got to at least the semis in every single year he was there. I could go on but what i'm implying is that he simply improves every single club performances in Europe.

Bayern played two consecutive CL finals, or played 3 CL finals in 4 years, or won the CL by the time Pep took over but he hasn't been able to go past the semis so it's not too far to infer that Mourinho would have gotten to the CL finals at least or won 1 if he had been at Bayern given the same resources/conditions that Pep has benefitted from Bayern, so A40 knows exactly what he's talking about and there's a point debating it.

Mourinho fanboys and illogic.

1. Mou played 3 seasons in spain he won just a league title. Pep had 4 seasons and won 3. When Pep was winning the 3 you people said it was because Barca was a good team. Okay, Mou had an equally good RM team and couldn't win it more than once. So help me extrapolate it into Bayern. Because I don't even remember Jupp winning league titles back to back and he went 2 and a half seasons there.

2. Mou is in Chelsea. Flops the first season. We can forgive him. Then he wins the league and Carling cup the following year- Hurrah! Season after he takes the SAME team and is on course to relegating them, that he has to be fired by his bosses. With the same self-serving and rehashed illogic, what is to stop Mou from taking a title winning Bayern side and almost relegating them?

3. Again with this hopeless BS about him taking Chelsea to a semis in his first stint. Ranieri had just done same the season before with a squad that wasn't as great as Mou's Chelsea. And with Inter (We must Praise Mou for this) but how many seasons did he see a semi final with them? You guessed it...ONCE after 2 abysmal tries.

4. Bayern played a final 2009-10. Flopped the next year. Got to a final against a weak Chelsea side ahome and flopped again (if this had been Pep he would have been crucified). Then won it the following year (praise Jupp for this). Pep played RM in 13-14, played Barca 14-15 and lost both ties. Big deal. What I am yet to comprehend is how Mou would have gotten through one of either semis? Was he going to beat Carlo's RM or Luchos Barca? If he could, then Chelsea should have gotten to the final in both years because the eventual winners basically thrashed the 2 teams that knocked him off.

I don't want to derail this thread with long posts over nothing. Mou almost relegated previous champions. That's his legacy.

A40:
Coman is nothing like Chamberlain so I don't get the comparison. Chamberlain never led the CL assists chart in his career like Coman is doing at Bayern in just his first season. Back to the game Coman was playing much better than Costa and was taking on Atleti players in our best spell of the game. You mean Pep that needed 70mins to take out an ineffectual Thiago could not wait for even 5 minutes to see what Coman's moves would have led to in a period where we were putting Atleti under pressure?

Oya tell us the impact of Ribery his replacement and what he did besides almost costing us the tie

You have also not told me his rationale for benching Müller in a game like this


Yeah I'm sure Pep would have done very well with that geriatric Milan team. In 2010 he lost to the same Inter that beat Pep's Barca so?

And yes he didn't win the league but he won both the Copa Del Rey and CL

Ancelotti would win multiple leagues and DFB Pokal titles with this Bayern squad braah let's leave sentiments at the door. The pertinent question is why does Guardiola want to lose to all 3 Spanish teams? Must he always have the best squad to compete?

1. I explained the similarities- 1D dribbling and zero end product. I am not saying he doesn't have a bright future. Just showing that like every Juvenile player he tends to do what he has made up his mind to do and not necessarily what the game demands. On so many occasions he tried to beat Luis for pace or just dribble to the right but it was a big fiasco. Anyone watching the game would have seen it. Again why analytics don't tell the whole story always.

2. Both Costa and Coman were playing nonsense but Costa more so because he was in an unnatural position playing as a left footed winger and he was constantly getting double and sometimes triple-teamed. Coman had majorly Luis to contend with all game and he flopped until the latter parts when Luis tired. When Costa was moved to coman's wing, he was at least able to put in 2 decent crosses with his weaker foot.

3. Like I said before I don't defend all Peps decisions as I didn't understand Thiago and then Müller not starting. I personally would have started Müller as Lewa was being frustrated and was the only target man all game. Vidal can only try so much to help. He is no Müller. So yes I questioned the Müller-Thiago issue and would have brought Thiago on as a sub.

4. Ribery reminds me of Neymar alot and that's because they're not dangerous enough seeing that both are not exactly very direct. But I would have started Ribery and Costa and brought on Coman as the sub since he seems to play better when the opposing defenders had tired out. I would have used Ribery's trickery to tire them out and even get Juanfran yellow-carded.

5. As for Ancelloti, We have next season to rate him. Hopefully he will be there long enough to rate him over 3 seasons. See Lucho with a wonderful squad who couldn't get to back to back semis in the UCL. I doubt pep knows what it is like to leave before the semis in his whole managerial career.

A40,

I watched that same game. Coman didn't play well all game. Pep had already given signals that he wanted him off before we saw him make those 2 runs (that did not lead to a final ball, goal or an assist). Coman couldn't beat Felipe Luis all game and his crossing was atrocious! Infact the moments you are referring to as him playing well should go to Lahm (who in my opinion was one of the best players on the pitch-if not the best). Lahm made the decisions for Coman, and coman who reminds me of chamberlain, effed it up with his 1D dribbling and without end product.

As for Mou and Carlo, it is quite funny. Carlo could not get past the Quarter finals UCL since 2008 until 2014 and he didn't win a league title in Spain. Mou went trophyless 2014, did well 2015 and almost got his team relegated in 2016. If you feel these are the coaches to win the same amount of trophies with Pep in Bayern, then there's no point debating it.

bjhaid:
the bottom line is if pep doesn't win this ucl..then he has greatly under-achieved with this team Goodnight

Hyperbole.

Which year would have been good enough? So Bayern are so much better than Real Madrid and Barcelona that Pep should have won it 2014 and 2015? I don't understand.

Once you have made up your mind to hang your dog, any thread will be good enough.

Conman played "nsi" today. But Bro A40 wanted Conman to start. You didn't criticise Pep for that one. Asking for Mueller to start is just analytics. Yes he is the top scorer. Yes he scored 4 goals in the KO stages. But nothing suggested this would have been his game.

I saw Lewa frustrated out of his skin. I saw over a thousand bad crosses from the wingers including Costa. Even at that Bayern held their own and may have been fortuitous to pull a draw. Takes nothing away from Pep. Football is over 2 legs. After all, Lucho played MSN and still flopped. Winning the UCL back to back is not beans.

If Pep beat Real Madrid that would have been back to back titles for Bayern which is unprecedented. The following year no team was going to beat Barcelona no matter who you are- Bayern inclusive. Not saying he hasn't made some mistakes but it is not to the tune that it is being exaggerated on here. Today, Bayern made a fair representation of themselves and have it all to play for at the Allianz.

See Lucho now, almost looking like he may not do back to back La Liga titles, but Pep did 3 peat with Barca and he is on course to doing same with Bayern. If any Carlo, Mou or Wenger could do it, Bayern won't have tried to offer Pep a new €18M per year contract.

All hope is not lost second leg. Allianz has been a centre for correcting past mistakes this season. Atleast Dortmund, Wolf, Arsenal are some of the teams that ate 5. These are teams that recently had good runs at the same venue. Sabali.

How did Raptors still win that game?

A40:
I know its not connected to the ankle strain but shutting Curry down for the series would reduce the distraction and allow everybody to get locked in. Nobody is talking about the fact that they broke a 3pt record. Or how well Livingston has been playing in his absence or how good a Game 4 Iguodala had. The narrative is Curry's injury, that's not a good look IMO. Not that I blame the Warriors for this but shutting Curry would put the spotlight on the other players

I agree whole-heartedly.

Curry was the one bugging to be played since game 1. I doubt Kerr wanted to rush him back. Be that as it may, the Knee sprain was not as a result of being rushed back. JVG (who was one of the commentators for the game) said Curry had complained to the ref just moments before he slipped that that patch of the court was wet but they could not stop the game until the ball was off the court or a timeout was called. If you observed the slip, that 25 year old Houston white kid (I forget his name) slipped at the same spot during the fast break and then Curry followed suit seconds after.

My prayer now is that the Clippers vs Blazers game tarries longer so that Curry can get the much needed rest he needs. I totally prefer a sprained Knee to a sprained ankle considering his history with that Ankle.

Side bar: Iggy had a big game yesterday. He seems to be a big game player.

Rumors online saying it is grade 3 and he is out for the rest of the playoffs.

I hereby declare that testimony fake, null and void.

I have prayed for the Ankle. He will recover in record time. God punish Satan!

Arcayo:
We are saying the same thing, I didn't say if you are to paying $1000CAD bank will deduct $1000USD but they transact international funds in USD so the equivalent of $1000 CAD in USD will be transferred.
If the guy is charged in USD equivalent he should confirm from the school how much they received from him then he can conclude if it's fraud or mistake from the transaction officer then he can take it up with them

Ok. I agree with you.

Alot of unnecessary arguments on here.

The person saying Vidal and co are goal threats is not wrong. On an average Bayern game, chances could fall to them and they usually bury it. This cannot be said about Pique in Barca because usually Pique is deployed to get goals when Barca are either in dire need of it, or if they are in trouble.

On the flip side, yes ATM have a style that can work well against possession teams like Bayern that play a dangerously high defence line, but ATM are yet to face such possession teams with as many goal threats as Bayern and it is a valid argument.

Sometimes I sense that the arguments going on here are usually created by the characters saying what and not whether what is being said is valid.

Arcayo:
You can fill form in CAD but all international transactions were done in US dollar even pounds....you can confirm from your account officer

This is not true if by "all international transactions were done in US Dollar" you mean the actual conversions were done using 199N to a $. No matter the legal tender used to facilitate international transactions, your bank is mandated to make the conversions based on the subsisting rate as instructed by the CBN. So in other words, if I was to pay CAD to a school in Canada that should have set me back by 1M Naira. Even if my bank used USD to make the payment, I am only to be setback by the same 1M Naira and not 1.3M (because they used USD). THAT'S A FRAUD

Bawss1:
Somebody is busy warning people not to apply via online route because of his own experience. That's so wrong. Applications, whether via online or paper route, are treated on a case by case basis. There is nothing wrong with sending in your application via the online route. Delays may happen that is why people are advised to send in their applications early to accommodate any delays.

Warning people not to apply online is baseless just like the idea that a new set of CIC staff are processing applications. Baseless talk.

I agree.

Jayne07:
Banks say no Canadian dollars, so my schl fee was paid in US dollars

I mean this is wrong on all levels. It is also fraudulent.

Okijajuju1:
NYSC D.G position posting for the Nigerian Army is the equivalent of Checkpoint posting for the Nigerian Police..


#Chopping Galore..

Very true.

I know him personally. It is his dad that was the former director of Naval Education and he retired as a commodore.

Tomide was born 1988. He finished Secondary School 2005 and read estate management in Unilag but he always had a flair for IT things just like his father. He spent sometime with his younger brother in UK who developed a brain tumor and later passed on, then he returned to Naija 2012 or so.

Mixty:
@The bolded.....It does. If not, it is even more indicting that JV partners pay for expenses incurred by NNPC not accounted for.

As a majority shareholder, NAPIMS (a subsidiary under NNPC) provide oversight function over all budgetary activities of the JV. NAPIMS have to approve annual budgets of JV partners and monitor implementation. thus NAPIMS play a dual role....contribute 60% and provide regulatory oversight on all financial activities including ensuring accurate crude allocations based on the sharing ratio.

Now....I give you a scenario that plays itself in every govt establishment. When you need to get something done, you may have to give kickbacks except if you stand your ground which will ultimately lead to delays and obstacles. Same thing occur when JV partners have to get their budgets signed by NNPC. You will be forced to make compromises and include items in the budget you are not normally willing to make and are not justified (e.g. it may be in form of sponsoring foreign trainings, estacodes, luxury jets, etc.). It all boils down to forecful extortion.
You tell me a moral justification of having the JV partners fund the hire of a luxury jet they don't get to use? What business sense does it make?

Lets even assume the JV partners use luxury jets (which is NOT the case), the NNPC boss is not legally allowed to use a luxury jet dedicated to JV operations IF it is not soley for JV business. Money spent on JV business is simply for JV activities.

Lastly, I wasn't defending Diezani. I think we will never progress as a nation if we keep comparing the enormity of a corrupt act against another. What is corrupt is corrupt and we should deal with it as such. Unlike you, I am not playing politics. I will criticize what is wrong, be it APC or PDP.

Hide your lies in many words.

NAPIMS funds upstream activities and ONLY that. I don't know if you have rethinks before posting.

Luxury Jets they don't get to use? So how do the execs travel? Arik air and Dana? Abeg lie with style.

What are JV activities and how can you tell the GMD didn't use the jets only for such activities? You are just spinning yourself with illogic.