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Lovine: I believe there is healing but only through God. No believer in this present dispensation has the power to call God to heal any man. All we can do is pray(communicate)to(with) God. If it is part of his will, healing will come at God's time if it is not His will,then that prayer is a futile exercise.
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I believe that healing exists
however, i believe that it is a function of man
I have never read anywhere in the bible where someone was taking a stroll, and just got healed like that

As a christian, i believe, that God made everything
and that for him there is no difference in 'miracle' between your ability to eat and your ability to grow a new limb

I have never witnessed cheating in professional exams, and i dont think it is right to cheat in such exams
except maybe you're cheating to get higher scores than needed to pass

(Cheating is cheating alright, dont get me wrong,.... but it is a moral code subject to various intepretations and the environment which one exists in)
that ^^^ aside ....,

Professional exams if well designed ensures that one actually has the neccesary knowledge and skills needed to function in specific roles.
So if you pass the exams (either through cheating or honesty) and are not able to function in the role,
then you (and/or the professional body) have failed the recruiting organisation who ascribed to that certification

.. with increasing inability of the certificate holders to perform,
...that professional exam/body/certification is soon avoided by recruiters


^^^ this unfortunately is the story of many Nigerian universities

[quote author=Sammy107_d]Was having a little debate about this and thought I should open it up..

It's easy to say no, but think about it. What are the chances of getting a high-quality, global job if one doesn't have some sort of history with a top-ranked global school? What are the chances of finding a graduate of Herriot-Watt doing meaningful, specialized work in the the Goldman Sachs London office? These company's sometimes only recruit from certain schools anyway. It's easy and a cliched to say "anything is possible" or "It's what you can do...," but can you back these assertions up with factual, searchable examples?

Help close this "school doesn't matter" debate, wise ones.[/quote]well, well, well
I believe that at this point in this thread we've been able to establish a couple of things
1) A big name school does matter in some companies and many places
2) It doesnt mean they are smatter than you, its just what it is
3) It doesnt mean they'll get better paid than you, but they'll get better paid than many
4) It doesnt mean that if u dont have a big name school in ur CV you wont get specialized roles in some companies, .. but it does mean that it would be statistically harder
5)It does mean that elitism is in demand (there's a study that finds this trumping over race)
6) Getting a big name school in your cv apart from some intelligence needed, would need some N10 million annually (pretty cheap in terms of cost benefit analysis)

Lovethywilbedon: Am still to make a sence from this post.

the post describes the life of a champion, what makes them who they are
its something like this

u dont hear much about jesus before his ministry started
but when he starts his ministry, it moves in leaps and bounds

The shadow/secret place is where u get perpared for what you end up becoming
The secret place is where something pushes you to keep training towards a goal

When your time comes, you then see that you are able to do many things quite easily
This is what the post describes as mounting up with wings of eagles


Study the stories of successful people you admire
you'll understand the pattern

[quote author=tpia@]so you are?[/quote]I am still trying to figuure out how a 'prose' led to the lesbian question in the first place

I thought in our youth service
we all swore to serve our father land
whether we are from Harvard or college of technology ado-ekiti

[quote author=tpia@]are you a lesbian?[/quote]and whats ur interest in that?

Those who dwell in the secret place of the most high
the abide under the wings of the almighty

Its interesting when someone goes into a secret place ( i am not talking about prayers)
when you are in the background preparing for something under the tutelage of God
Folks do not see you then
They dont know what you went through when you consistently spent 18hrs in the day studying a subject

when you looked at the mirror, envisioned your future style and tried to fit into it
when you did your gruelling 100 press ups per day to develop your 6 pack abdomen
When you argued endlessly with your gatemen, dad and others and recorded and played back your little mirror speeches to develop your powerful oratory skills
When the girls you tried toasting embarrased you for possessing weak yans (apart from a weak pocket)

You cried, and almost gave up as you struggled under the shadows of HIS mighty tutelage

But HIS wings brushed away your tears
HIS wings carresed you to you feet and nudged you on
you persisted

......
They shall mount up with wings of eagles
they shall run and not be weary


Here you are, the product of fermentation
Now, you've become the woman of your dreams
you can feel it whirling inside of you
your wings are sticking out,
beautiful swan,... daughter of the most high

its time to hit the track
on your marks,.... just go,... dont look back

RUN baby RUN
the tracks are not enough?
The skys beckon
FLY baby FLY

.... its in your DNA
like father like daughter



(c)me and papa God. if you try copy,.... holy ghost fi....

Where's physicsqed?
I need him here

This pix is so powerful

Ishilove: #Colleagues#

good girl
I enjoy when someone tidies up after me
*Throws off the next sock towards the kichen*

^^^

i always used to laugh when I hear babies/kids doing their: baba, godi uhni dudi

But I am begining to appreciate the mechanism of their verbal action
as they try their best to vocalize their feelings by trying to immitate the speech output of the adult human race all in a bid to produce desired outcomes

after trying for a while without getting required result response, they just scream
and hope somehow things sort themselves
I guess this thread is us screaming

tsmith: I kinda sense you are not in Nigeria, I.e. You are communicating out of your normal depth. I actually align with what you're going through, but I associated mine to be a result of child birth as I have noticed a massive difference with my comms before and after childbirth in terms of what we call 'fonee'

I am indeed communicating out of my normal depth.
my fonee plus my use of business jargon (academic type) plus lack of correct terminolgy for present environment ,.. all join

To make matters worse I made a career change after the birth of my 1st child, so there I was a 'cowboy' project analyst who claims to have years if experience dah dah dah (I guess lots of naija can relate with this).

chei!! you are a naughty girl
Same here sha

being in unfamiliar but pressured terrains and the need to keep on top with the office project lingos saw my communication confidence take a nose dive. I start to stammer, simple words start to elude me and I end up coming across as a total bum!

that look in their eyes abi

Now with good 5 years experience and the fact that I do truly know my stuff, you would think it should be in the past, but hell no! The unfortunate thing is that I know I am far more intelligent than I come across at work. I hold a hid argument outside of work, state my case clearly and all, but even I laugh what I am like at work.

You probably exist in too many worlds while your work collagues exist in a singular world of work
afterall na you still dey sell bag and shoes for nairaland

It's got me thinking more about the root cause and how best to circumvent this, a few of my analogies are:

1.) Im constantly over thinking how I comw across and sound, this is a major killer as one can't excel on all grounds if the brain is doing much at one time, yiu either focus on content and sound as d true african that I am, or focus in the delivery; fonee and articulation having prepped content ahead.

2.) Stop trying to be someone else or sounding like someone else. Its unfortunate but my default brain thinks Nigerian and then tries to translate to British office lingo; am example being ' we need to look at everything' compared to ' we need to consider all aspects/views. My default self would say the d 1st statement under pressure in a meeting but would use the 2nd in an email after 10 minutes of editing n synonyms. A defiant part of me feels shebi idea is need, but my alter ego knows I could do beta!

3.) Be prepped cannot be over emphasised, Obama as you see who is deemed a great orator has speeches that have been prepped and rehearsed. Your confidence grows when you know you have delivered quality 'shiit' and this would overtime help you to ride the tide even when spurned an unexpected.

4.) Never fail to admit what you don't know but offer to come back with answers when you find out. You would be much respected this way

5.) Finally, emancipate yourself from 2nd class citizen's mentality. Those you are communicating with r no better than or created more special. At the end of the day, its all talk. The one who holds the floor might not necessarily have the best product, but might just be blessed with gift of the gap.

PS: the above might not necessarily relate to you, it's just my grail if only I did live by it myself, I would be much better

Sounds like you got yourself a tidy solution

@tsmith

Yesterday, i impressed myself after soaking in this thread
I saw everyone I spoke with at the office nodding their head

AjanleKoko: I respectfully differ.
Someone who goes to a very expensive, elite school like that, will come out feeling entitled. Not that it is a bad thing, but that is what it is.
Nigeria needs people in the trenches, who don't have any sense of entitlement, or a huge student loan awaiting repayment

yep, that is true
But it depends on how you got into Harvard. If daddy elrufai, the government or the other minister sponsored your education then you have no 'debt of damocles' hanging over your head

So it would make sense to repay society its own debt by folding your sleeves and jumping into our murky national terain where you can brink your skills and extensive network to bear in a greenfield area
-obama towed this path of social activism after graduation from Harvard

^^^
now that is a great take
it combines intelligent quotient with social quotient

So Harvard not only shapens your intelligence, it also presents a social network that you can leverage on to take you places, if you are upt to it

tsmith: Haa haa, I sensed right, you r in obodo oyinbo like me, long n short, u get all the skills and knowledge that u can n return to your home country where you would be better appreciated and you don't need to keep paraphrasing your thoughts.
............
now it seems it's a me party, as I'm the only one posting, but I so reckon with you on this. It's like you opened the thread for me and it's consoling that someone else in the world is some sort of similar shoes

tsmith
no worry
I'll brink my mat and join u.
(Sorrow likes company)

Make we dissect this thing well, well
U never can tell,..... salvation might be awaiting around the corner

@tsmith

not to worry about some of your assumptions
but Wow!!
You got me thinking real good

Thanks

AjanleKoko: A Harvard graduate should not be looking for work in Nigeria in the first place
Which work is there to do in Nigeria that requires a Harvard grad?

emm
But Nigeria is where they are needed most

[quote author=Sammy107_d]I have not met a Harvard-trained business graduate earning less than the equivalent of 1 million a month. 300,000 is something a truly skilled, locally-trained graduate with 3 years experience should be able to reject comfortably. Sadly, Nigerians are happy settling, and justifiably so. Not like the jobs are really out there...[/quote]They're not happy settling
you rightly said that the jobs are not there
(we could even break ^^ that further)

We must remember that beyond the quality or brand of school you attend, econonmic and social demand matters
-Obama's dad went to Havard and Obama's book says he ended up 'unemployed' and cast out
-Obama went to Havard and ended up as president

Distinction between black and white is rare
there are lots of shades of grey

Ok, calm down guys...


I used 300,000 to signify that even if they wan volunteer free of charge in a company
the company go beg them to at least take N300,000 for lunch and transport

Yep they can all be taxed in Nigeria
One way of doing this is to pay tax at the point of purchase
All it needs is a great design and legislation to make it work
Thats why we went to school... to think out of the box

1)School'Brand' Matters very well
2)Shool matters
3) We can suceed despite not having either,
......but it matters
we can give examples of all 3 phenomena

-I am yet to see a Harvard trained graudate earning less than the equivalent of N300,000 per month
-I do see a number of 1st class grads from 'i drink garri universities' trying hard to sustain a 100 or 200 thousand naira a month, and then just giving it up the constant struggles and going for phd's

-someone from a 'branded' school might not be more intelligent than you, but would be more attractive to recruiters except she's plain dull

-Some that did not go to or finish school are extremely wealthy
-Many that did not go to school (at least in Nigeria) form the class of the poor
-Many that went to 'branded' schools are at least middleclass

AjanleKoko: LOL.
Try it, you'll see how well they respond when you draw diagrams.
Tech people respond naturally to visual explanations. You lose them when you get all wordy

Thanks
seems to be working

Also Thanks to all that contributed in attempting to give me a voice again
I also thank my mum, dad, siblings and aunties
thanks to my girlfriends, and concubines

special thanks also goes to my bingo who did not loose faith in me and kept on leaking my face in the face of my adversity

emmm...
thanks to my ....
i don tire
*picks nice female trophy and steps out of the stage*
*hears someone screaming in the background "hey... stop this is the familly section, you just took my wife"*

*hastens steps and makes for the exit with trophy in tow*

jeffizy: It simply means you are not eloquent which has nothing to do with deficiency in vocabulary.

What i suggest is for you to build confidence in yourself. You can achieve this by joining a discussion group that contains known and familiar faces. It could even be your football loving friends or any area that you are knowledgeable about.

But I was eloquent
and I am presently extremely confident (to a fault)
I think AJ was able to accurately dicepher what my challenge is
I have already started applying his recomendation, and it seems to be working

BTW, Your writing skill is very strong

Thanks

@post

The sensible thing to do will be to see the findings on research that shows that building on weekend has a direct relationship with collapsed structures or at least commision a study on such relationships

You dont just dream up far reaching and shallow policies from the comfort of your desk
SMH

Oahray: thought you had no problem with talking alot and wanted a 'step down'
Oya recieve your healing from auntie Ishi first

Amen sister ishi

Oahray: em... Could't find anything in boldface. Maybe it's my phone font or browser

you said "most things that can be learned can be unlearned"

Kindly expatiate

AjanleKoko: Of course he was aware. But it's hardly likely that you can second-guess a number of random questions. Unless you are well-versed in the methodologies behind the tests being applied to you. Kind of like a lie-detector test.

MBTI by the way is a type of personality profiling known as the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator. There are a bunch of them, but management consultants use this one a lot. In my professional life, I've come across it a lot of times.

They have various types of indicators: E=Extroverted, I= Introverted, T=Thinker, F=Feeler, N=Intuitor, S= Sensing, J= Judging, P= Perceiving.

Ok sha
but i have used MBTI tool kit and arrived at numerous personality types for myself within days or hours all depending on which characteristic I like the tool to potray me as. (Maybe its because i understand how the tool works)

Although MBTI provides for standardized assessment
I prefer descrete observation in assesing peoples personality in work context

AjanleKoko: I even know a real-life case of two MBTI profiles done on the same person over a course of ten years, between 2002 and 2012. The initial tests indicated the person to be an INFJ, dominant introvert. He was asked to work extensively on his communication skills if he wanted to be effective in his chosen profession. Same MBTI profile was run on the same person in 2012, and he indicated as an ENTJ. Diametric opposites.

Was the person aware of the purpose of this profiling?
When people are aware of observations, they are able to change their characteristics to match desired profiles
Was this factored in?

Oahray: lol. No one is ever too intelligent to put on the robe of simplicity.

@op, this is just a suggestion. I think you have to start from within. Practice talking to a mirror on varying issues. As a rule, make it strictly 'is and was'. Most things that can be learned can be unlearned too.

Can you kindly expatiate on the bolded.

AjanleKoko: Okay, if I have this right, you mean when you are communicating non-technical stuff to technical people?
The best way is to draw pictures, and show what you are saying visually. Technical people don't understand lots of words

Umhhhh.... Eureka
so it might not be my fault afterall
darn those tech people that made me think I was loosing my yanning skills,
including my oga

Ishilove: Your problem is you are too intelligent for your own good. Your language cannot express all that you have chucked in that big African head of your's, hence your challenges

taks ma
But what is the use of knowing all if u cannot express all?