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Religion / Re: Will We Experience Time In Heaven? by esere826: 7:15pm On May 11, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Is that your answer? cheesy
yes uncle
did i get wrong answer uncle? sad
Religion / Re: Megachurch Preacher Paula White Marries Rocker Jonathan Cain In Third Marriage by esere826: 6:08pm On May 11, 2015
Abuamam:


All these makes no sense in the light of what I said. The holy spirit should have WARNED you that so and so are fake pastors, NOT FORCED you to forsake them. What kind of holy spirit would leave you confused about which pastors are fake and which ones are real? Leaving you to pay your hard earned wealth and be lead spiritually for donkey years to someone who turned out to be a fake pastor? What of those followers who died in the interim, before the fake pastor was exposed?

who be fake pastor ? grin
Not my Paula White ohhhhh

Make I tok something sha. Although, this is not the question you asked
there is actually nothing like fake pastor in the real sense of the word

a pastor is a pastor because he or she has a congregation that he or she pastors
a fake pastor would simply mean someone that lies that he pastors a church, but really doesnt

you might therefore have things like bad pastors, good pastors, gifted pastors, anointed pastors, lying pastors, carnal pastors etc
Religion / Re: Will We Experience Time In Heaven? by esere826: 6:02pm On May 11, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Try explaining eternity in one word if you can. wink

uncle I. grin
*gets up in sunday school class and looks around proudly
uncle, eternity in one word is "Jesus"

* cheesy smiles and looks at uncle expecting to hear "good lad, take sweet"
Religion / Re: Megachurch Preacher Paula White Marries Rocker Jonathan Cain In Third Marriage by esere826: 3:22pm On May 11, 2015
Abuamam:


Well. I don't know about kings and chiefs. What I don't understand is why all these holy spirit filled xtians were not told from the beginning that so and so pastor has fake spirits and are not part of their god's franchise. Their holy spirit takes them to see which people are in heaven and hell, tells them past and future events, teaches them incomprehensible 'tongues', protects them from sickness and accidents; if their testimonies are anything to go by; and replaces amputated limbs and gets rid of ebola. Yet the holy spirit leaves them to go astray behind the multitude of fake pastors.

It boggles the imagination; this carelessness that the holy spirit has for his hosts.

the Holy Spirit reads Holy Wind
For that very nature he is not something that one can easily lay their fingers on
we (including atheists) are still trying to understand how the none-physical parts of our being works

If he was solidly tangible at all times, then we all would have been fully subservient to him. there probably would have been no fall in the first place if God was standing next to Adam with a cane.
there would be no atheists either, I doubt

Figment of our imagination?
You'd say so.

But some of us are enjoying the chase, the reaching out and the occasional or regular baby mis-steps
And aren't you happy that you are able to make choices as you will without seeing someone with a sword hovering over you
Religion / Re: Will We Experience Time In Heaven? by esere826: 3:06pm On May 11, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Is there anything to compare it with?


1) try using a circle
2) Count to the last number start from 0 backwards or forward -its infinite, none existent
3) Ever heard of unending loops in computer programing -it will crash your system except you get out of it

please refer to me as giving you these ideas when you use it in preaching a sermon smiley
Religion / Re: Self-service, Selfless-service And Nigerian Christian Morality. by esere826: 2:48pm On May 11, 2015
plaetton:


Yes.
But the Nigerian Christian's obsession with bedroom sins seem like an epidemic of mass neurosis.
yep
because mama and papa play is the play that we would like mumi to allow us play the most cheesy
but it seems mumi says we should not play. But Cynthia is playing it angry



...and because you made reference to Nigerian Christians in particular, I'll add that both mumi and our traditions seems to come together to forbid this play
it is quite agonising

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Religion / Re: Megachurch Preacher Paula White Marries Rocker Jonathan Cain In Third Marriage by esere826: 2:45pm On May 11, 2015
Abuamam:
More Holy spirit things. Will their eyes never open?

As usual, they will now call her 'fake' pastor. The same people that would have been paying her tithe and praising her; yesterday.
yep that's only normal

if you pay tributes to a great king through a princely looking chief,
then you start seeing the chief walking around with rags on
its only normal that you would say that the chief is a fake.

however,
if after paying tributes through the chief you always send a text message to the King and he always replies saying "received and accounted for"
what you'd have for the chief is sympathy or face the other side and continue with your business
Religion / Re: Self-service, Selfless-service And Nigerian Christian Morality. by esere826: 2:39pm On May 11, 2015
plaetton:


Yes, I do.
Thanks.

I guess Christians seem to ignore one of the prime directives of Jesus, where he said:
" point not at the spec in another's eye while ignoring the log in thine own eyes ".

It's always easier to see what others are doing wrong rather than ponder whether you are doing right.

I'll explain.
it's like this:

Ever seen a child who has to sit still under the watchful strict gaze of her parents?
You'll notice that she spends a lot of time pointing out the wrong of the other children

"mummi, look at how Cynthia is staining her clothes with dirt. Cynthia, you are a naughty, dirty girl. Mumi will not like you"
Religion / Re: Self-service, Selfless-service And Nigerian Christian Morality. by esere826: 2:18pm On May 11, 2015
plaetton:
Self-Service, Selfless Service And Christian Morality. How are these related to one another in our real world, especially in Nigeria ?

A casual observer will note that at any given time in the front page of NL religious section, one would find many threads and OPs on Self-Service, but hardly any at all on Selfless-Service. shocked

Is the message of Jesus lost in translation, or , is there something much more pernicious going on the deep inside the psyches of Nigerian Christians?

Please help me examine this disturbing distortion of moral responsibility.

Let's see who is the first to comment. cheesy

Sorry I am late, but let me explain to you what you've observed.
My explanation is going to be largely in the flesh. Don't say una don come again.
It would make more sense to you if I talk on the flesh level because you and I can both understand it

Here we go:
Quite a number of us Christians are fixated on laws. Its a carry over from the Jewish roots of our beliefs
The laws tend to largely say "do not" regarding tangible things, then speaks of woes to come after you do break them
Whereas it is easy to say do-not self service, it is quite difficult to say do not not selfless service

Yes, we do have threads that encourage selfless service, but they are not as attractive as the "do-not" threads
the only ones that we sometimes collapse into the selfless service definitions and are fairly attractive also follow the same pattern
1) for example, do-not rob God in tithes payment (2) do-not insult a MOG

Once again, these ones tend to speak of woes if you fail to abide with the terms, and blessings if you do abide with them

Hope you now understand were we are coming from.

Kind regards

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Religion / Re: Megachurch Preacher Paula White Marries Rocker Jonathan Cain In Third Marriage by esere826: 1:56pm On May 11, 2015
ehmm, ok.. I forgot
I am supposed to criticize her
Wetin dey do u naw Paula angry
stay one place and learn to be a hypocrite ok. Next time, do stuff in hiding and not in the open. U hear
Religion / Re: Megachurch Preacher Paula White Marries Rocker Jonathan Cain In Third Marriage by esere826: 1:53pm On May 11, 2015
Congrats to Paula
I hope this one lasts for a long time
Politics / Re: Lets All Go Treking -Maslows Heirachy Of Needs by esere826: 12:46pm On May 11, 2015
Maslow's Hierarchy of needs


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I learnt a long time ago that human needs are in stages. The first priority is pretty basic. It’s called Physiological needs and consists of Food, clothes, shelter and sex. After this is fulfilled, it tends to go through the stages of Security, Belonging, Self-esteem all the way to Self-actualization needs.

I have also for a long time theorized that as a people, we have been so subject to hunger and insecurity that almost all our actions have revolved around our belly and building electric fences when we can afford them. I have also watched with dismay as our middle classes barely emerging out of the meshes of poverty try to belong and have some vicissitude of esteem by hungrily reaching out for foreign branded (and expensive) goods thereby freighting away our scare foreign exchange.

With the trekers association of Nigeria, I see a positive push to the top of the needs hierarchy -A need for self-actualization. I am convinced that creativity and innovativeness lies in this sphere of existence as against the belle-centric bottom parts of the ladder. Maybe because I have read too much romantics about events that took place in the West before it emerged as a major global force. These guys were risking life and limb for adventure, for new exciting discoveries. ..whatever

I thank the Social media revolution for providing our youths with the mental tools needed to short-circuit towards a future filled with adventure. I can only imagine what would happen when our traditional TV stations sync with social media to update and entertain us with beautifully presented on-goings by the youths around Nigeria. This would be a gold mine for the economy of our unemployed youths and the economy at large.

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Politics / Lets All Go Treking -Maslows Heirachy Of Needs by esere826: 12:45pm On May 11, 2015
Loving the Trekking Crew


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I was impressed when a young man in fulfilling a vow took to his legs for a long trek from Lagos to Abuja in solidarity with the emergence of GMB as president. He wasn’t forced to make the vow, and he wasn’t forced to keep it either. However he chose to walk the walk.

Yes, I was impressed. I was not thinking pro or anti APC. I was only thinking of the man and his capacity to achieve a goal. A goal which in Nigeria amounts to nothing.

However, by the time he was arriving at Abuja there were already serious doubts about the credibility of his quest. Some of us gradually began to suspect that this guy must be a witch, walking in the day and flying at night. But guess what? We were summarily labelled as anti-APC.

Now, considering that the young man was not forced to do what he chose to do, I felt really disappointed. It reminded me of an international marathon once held in Nigeria, where a Nigerian emerged from the crowd and understandably not worn out won the trophy.

I soon lost interest in the numerous treks going on. If the trekers could be shielded from otherwise sensible questioning, why waste my entertainment time being sold a dummy. It’s like playing with a fake Xbox.

My interest was aroused again when this time, I learnt of another man trekking in the opposite direction. This time in honour of Jonathan. He’s been updating us on his journey so far, and it’s a welcome relief. Hopefully he would be more honourable and tell us the truth. Nobody force am, so he can quit if him tire.

But wait a minute. Am I so jobless to be concerned about the Trekers Association of Nigeria? Not really. I am impressed for a reason. It called Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs.


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Politics / Re: The Fall Of Jonathan And The Geo-Political Lessons Not Yet Learnt by esere826: 11:00am On May 11, 2015
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Femi: But we need change, and remember we’ve now learnt that our votes can bring about change.

Ebiere: Yes, we need change, but there is a crucial lesson here. Nigerian elites have learnt and reinforced that when you are a minority you can be bullied out of a position no matter how powerful that position is. Maybe it’s because of such lessons learnt from the past that facilitated the easy changing of the Igbo senate presidents by Obasanjo for ‘credible sounding’ reasons, whereas it was hard to push out the Speakers of the house from the core North.

Femi: Guy you are confusing me. Are you now saying that we should reward incompetency with our votes.
Ebiere: No way. Please forget my other rigmaroles. It was me being emotional and making us understand that in the process of killing a fly perched on our scrotum we swiped too hard and killed the fly as well as hurt our scrotum.

Ebiere: In essence, what I am saying is that our democracy is yet to have the deepening you earlier alluded to. Perhaps, when a core northerner has had his 2nd term bid truncated, only then would I agree and say yes, the Nigerian democracy is deepening real good, and devoid of religious and ethnic sentiments

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Politics / Re: The Fall Of Jonathan And The Geo-Political Lessons Not Yet Learnt by esere826: 10:59am On May 11, 2015
Post 3

Femi: Uhmm, I am beginning to see your point..but guy Jonathan was just too bad naw
Ebiere: Yes we know, and believe it or not we are somehow happy that just the way that John the Baptist fell for Jesus to expand, Jonathan had to also fall for Buhari not Babangida or Atiku to emerge
Femi: ehehehe!! That a new one. The John the Baptist of Otoueke. But seriously, so what is the problem naw?


Ebiere: We have mixed feelings. Bitter sweet feelings
Ebiere: We wonder what would have been, if an Alhaji Jonathan was from the core North with all his weakness. Would there ever have been a Boko Haram this strong -a Boko haram that is suddenly losing its suicidal steam with the emergence of a core Northerner as president?

Ebiere: We wonder if for example a southern Obasanjo president had died mid-term, if an Atiku could have been so blackmailed to stick to one term by the southerners? We wonder what would have been, if a clueless Alhaji Jonathan from the PDP was running against a honest APC’s Deacon Buhari from the south.
Ebiere: Just imagine this for a second.

Ebiere: Imagine who amongst these two would be stoned, and where he would be stoned. Imagine if a large number of the electorate from the core north would be bothered about all this plenty analysis wen we dey do for social media and then vote for Deacon Buhari.

Ebiere: We wonder if your votes were simply anti-Jonathan or anti-SS/SE or pro-southwest etc.
Ebiere: We wonder what your views would have been if a Southern PDP Jonathan was running against a Northern APC Babangida, Atiku or Yerima.
Ebiere: We wonder a lot of things. The message from the electorate in the core north is very clear, but the message coming from your my brothers is very mixed
Politics / Re: The Fall Of Jonathan And The Geo-Political Lessons Not Yet Learnt by esere826: 10:59am On May 11, 2015
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Ebiere: Ok, back to the topic. I am afraid for the future of southern Nigeria.
Femi: Don’t tell me that you are one of those ethnic and religious bigots. Look, what we need in Nigeria are leaders that can perform irrespective of tribe or creed.

Ebiere: Yes, I agree with this, especially in a perfect union. But that my friend is the challenge. We are not a perfect union. I don’t know about you, how you grew up, but for me and those around me, even in childhood we learnt anger from our elders.

Ebiere: The anger was that they lived and grew up in a Nigeria were no matter how smart they were, or how hard they worked, when it was the season for harvest, they were bypassed and appointments given to the core north, especially the Muslim part.

Ebiere: We learnt that the next in line were the others from the core north and the middle belt. Then the Muslim Yorubas (who in turn nicely looked out for their non-Muslim Yoruba brethren) before the rest of country were left to fight for the crumbs.In their world as it then was, those from disadvantaged tribes rose to the top by having the ability to betray their own.

Ebiere: When MKO was denied the presidency, my elders rose up and also encouraged us their children to join the Yorubas in the fight. Their fight was not necessarily because they loved MKO –after all, we were hardly under the influence of the media domiciled in the southwest, but because to us, MKO was a glaring embodiment of the way we had been cheated in the past by what they (our elders) perceived as the core north.
Politics / The Fall Of Jonathan And The Geo-Political Lessons Not Yet Learnt by esere826: 10:58am On May 11, 2015
The fall of Jonathan and the lessons not yet learnt

Post 1



Femi: Jonathan’s loss at the poll is a good thing for our democracy
Ebiere: Why?

Femi: Do you know what it means for a sitting president in Nigeria to be unseated in a democracy. This is unprecedented. It will deepen our democracy.
Ebiere: Ahaha. I laugh in Ijaw
Femi: Why are you laughing like a drunk?

Ebiere: I am laughing because you’ve spoken too soon. I don’t think that you really understand the implication of what has happened.
Femi: Explain yourself.

Ebiere: Ok. Now granted that Jonathan was a leadership disaster, a man that it won’t have been strange if you heard from his mouth:
...... the government should do something about the situation .
However, I believe that we should discuss this with as much objectivity as possible.
Femi: Uhmm .. Good that you agree that Jonathan was a disaster.


Ebiere: I said leadership disaster, and I said that for a reason. He practically outsourced leadership to committees and folks around him. His constant alibi was that Obama said we need strong institutions and not strong leaders . The same Obama soon learnt to be a strong leader and got irritated by Jonathan.
Femi: Abeg, I no fit argue just make your point make I do go house.
Politics / Re: Quotes To Remember, By President Jonathan by esere826: 1:23pm On May 10, 2015
egift:
The Goat and Yam statement by Jonathan really proved how deep Corruption has socked in his mentality. It is unforgivable.

corruption is not stealing grin
Religion / Re: I'm Stuck Between Doing Gospel Or secular Music. by esere826: 12:55pm On May 10, 2015
WisdomCanada:
.... secular music, because if i'm forced to leave circular music today, i wont in any way feel complete, i do gospel and secular altogether, i dont want to leave either of them for the other, how do i cope with secular music and God's works? HELP!

Why not create music that have themes that can be used in both secular and gospel ways.
that would be very creative wouldn't it?
Politics / Re: Soyinka Denies Blasting The Igbos, Says Whoever Believes He Did Is A slowpoke by esere826: 12:07pm On May 06, 2015
The Cable is quickly turning into Saharareporters, publishing unverified stories
Culture / Re: My Favorite Urhobo Proverbs! by esere826: 2:51pm On May 04, 2015
slenderdude:
About 65% of the proverbs on this list are YORUBA proverbs transliterated to pidgin.
i beg to be corrected.

Only a true Yoruba (omo odo agba) will understand Not all these yorubas they speak in the city

the world is quite big u know,... not a little hamlet filled with enclave warlords

a more conciliatory comment ought to be something like this:

"wow. I thought these sayings were unique to my yorubas only. now I realise that we the yoruba's share lots of sayings with other tribes including the urhobos"

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Politics / Re: Treck For Gej From Abuja To Otuoke. by esere826: 10:40am On May 04, 2015
UjSizzle:
Biko is this the new way to shed weight

nope
remember the other ruddy cheek guy that trecked from lagos to abuja for GMB in 19 days?
i think in nigeria, one actually gains more weight when they treck long distances
they probably hunt and eat bush meat on the way
Politics / Re: The Shale Boom Has Already Gone Bust - At Least For Now by esere826: 8:02am On May 04, 2015
Kei144:

There seems to be hope for the economy.

...and besides
i think we should let go of this oil business as a determinant of our economic success

if we continue to insist that our wealth as a country would be dependent on oil
then i'm afraid those whose villages sit on the oil wells and oil pipeline routes
would by necessity gradually determine the fate of project Nigeria
Politics / Re: The Shale Boom Has Already Gone Bust - At Least For Now by esere826: 7:55am On May 04, 2015
Kei144:

There seems to be hope for the economy.

Not really

From what I learnt, shale becomes quite profitable to US producers only after the price of oil reaches some $60 to $80 per barrel
I think what this means is that once OPEC oil prices start going up again, America companies will start producing their shale oil in bulk. thereby putting a downward pressure on the price of oil to remain between $60 to $80 per barrel..

The only thing that can upset this delicate balance is if there is strong growth in one or more of the big economies thus leading to an increased demand for oil. Or, if one of the big oil producers encounter a situation such as war which would mean that supply would be reduced
Politics / Re: APC Reveals Transition Committee’s Terms Of Reference That Earned Buhari FG Rebu by esere826: 1:09pm On May 01, 2015
Wow

The terms of reference is quite insensitive.
It emphasises the request of documents from civil servants
by a separate power bloc from that which they are presently aligned

if you're ignorant of how the civil service works especially in relation with politicians ,
then you wont understand the undercurrents

Why not wait till they get into power before pursuing some of their requests
Politics / Re: House Orders PRESSID Stopped Due To Abscence Of Northerners On List by esere826: 9:05am On Apr 24, 2015
I agree with this
Emmahunk:


Why do we still have so much bitterness against one another. Why call a part of our own Country CURSED?
Is it not high time we learnt to make our points without ridiculing or hurting one another?
Obviously, there are some issues that we need to address but that can be done with love.
For this one. I don't agree
The all knowing God must have his reasons for making us all one Nation! When will we stop resisting God!
Lugard made us one. He is not God

Just like Shaekau killing folks is man's doing and not God's
Literature / Re: The Nairaland Literature Board And The Change It Needs by esere826: 4:06pm On Apr 23, 2015
Ishilove:

Thanks uncle smiley

u are welcome my daughter
oya come and sit on my laps so I can pat ur back
and sing lullaby for u
Literature / Re: The Nairaland Literature Board And The Change It Needs by esere826: 1:18pm On Apr 23, 2015
Ishilove:
Welcome back senb.

Yeah, most of the more experienced writers don't post again because of a number of reasons which I'd rather not mention for now because of the sensitivity of my position.

On the area of constructive criticism, I have noticed that many writers here don't take it well. Few writers like Larrysun and Royver take it in good faith, but a lot of others like flow1759 react negatively. I remember the time I, Ihedinobi and EfemenaXY (damn, I miss that lady's stories!) critiqued one of your earliest works, sebonzakurakageyoshi, you laughed and took correction, and since then you have gotten better. Not many writers now will take it because as you well know, I don't mince words when I critique.

I am not perfect, neither do I know all, but with the little one I know, I am very confident.

I on my own part have stopped critiquing because I am tired of being called 'oversabi'.


Critiquing literal pieces is nice. It helps the writer improve and helps readers see gaps
criticizing literal pieces is bad. It seeks to put down the writer and can smoulder him/her if not strong willed.

-now, I'm not saying that you usually do the second. I am only concentrating on the part of your post which I have bolded -

critiquing and criticizing sometimes look similar, but are quite different
It's like how water can give life to a plant when applied properly, but can kill same plant if used inappropriately.


Critiquing is a science as well as an art. it's nurturing, In fact it's a gift.
One should give it properly, and the other should receive it properly

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Travel / Re: Nigerian Students In The Uk How Do You Survive? by esere826: 2:39pm On Apr 22, 2015
GeneralShepherd:


My advice?Unless you are on scholarship, it is never too late to cancel coming to the UK. Cancel your admission apply to Canada, USA, New Zealand or Australia. You will thank me later for this advice.
Mekurexx:
embarassed embarassed embarassed embarassed Loool Okay its not late but then.... cry

I agree with the guy ooo

One or two persons I have advised against the UK move are in Canada right now and are not moaning
But in UK, I see folks weeping and gnashing their teeth.

If you do have enough cash sha, u can finish from here and try for a phd or something like that in Canada

BW in any choice you make sha
afterall Joseph became a prince from prison and so did Obj

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Politics / Re: America Declares Orubebe, Dokubo, Others Persona Non Grata by esere826: 2:05pm On Apr 22, 2015
Thank God that I am not the only one that noticed the writer says this
America has declared a former Minister of Niger
Delta Affairs, Mr. Godsday Orubebe, Rivers State
Governor-elect, Nyesom Wike, former militant
commanders, Mujahid Asari-Dokubo, Government
Ekpemupolo (Tompolo) and several other
persons who either encouraged violence through
inciteful comments or interfered with the
electoral process during the last general
elections as persona non-grata, meaning that
they are barred from entering the United States
and subjected to visa sanctions.
then says this

Though the US government did not specifically
name those it intends to punish for their actions
before, during and after the elections
, Orubebe,
Wike, Tompolo, Asari-Dokubo, First Lady
Patience Jonathan, Katsina State Governor,
Ibrahim Shema and several other major political
actors made national news headlines by their
heated comments and actions.

undecided
is this not what is called conjecture?

Mum says that she'll slap those that ate the meat in her soup
The househelp says that my brothers Sam, and leki, and my dad ate the meat in her soup.

Thisday's conjecture is that Mum will slap Sam, Leki and Dad soon.

....umh. flight of reasoning
appears that Thisday is now hiring some narialanders

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Politics / Re: Is It Really The Resposibility Of Government To Create Jobs? by esere826: 12:01am On Apr 22, 2015
DeGenius3:
i recently got into an argument with one of my close friends and i was trying to let him know
that government does not create jobs. what they do is create the enabling environment that
will make people's ideas thrive, create policies that will somewhat help small businesses.
i don't really know if i was wrong or right. but i really want to know on this forum
if it the sole responsibility of government to create jobs.
NOTE: only good and reasonable comment PLEEEEASE.
Thanks.
in a way, you and your friend are both right
In its most basic form, this is how it works

If people are not able to feed and pursue their aspirations they yearn for change by seeking to overturn the present order peacefully (eg negotiations, democracy, migration) or violently (theft, kidnap, coup, revolution etc)

In modern times and in a rough way, what i have described translates to:
if people do not have jobs, they violently rebel (eg Tunisia) against the government or vote them out (eg Nigeria).

So for self interest, (not necessarily moral qualms) a government needs to ensure that jobs are created.
it can ensurure in either one or two ways:

1) the government indirectly creates jobs by providing the enabling physical, mental and social structures stimulus required for organisations to create these jobs
2) directly creating jobs themselves (e.g civil service)

...so, the two posters above me, plus your friend and yourself are all kinda correct
also read up social contracts for a better understanding
Politics / Re: Lets Analyze This Trekking Guy's Journey From Lagos To Abuja...!!! by esere826: 11:20am On Apr 21, 2015
lol charlesPhc

u neva see anything yet ooo
u created a simple post which simply invited people to critique/think

dem go curse u tire, turn u to apc or Pdp or even tribalist

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