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cucumbae:At the end, you didn't even say congratulations .... |
oyetunder:Funny ![]() |
MistadeRegal:You have a point bro.... But I'm sure he would be better off without people like you around him. Just saying.... |
Elvis778:You've said it all. Society will keep changing. It's either other factors tag along or they'll be left behind. |
Palehair:Thanks for seeing my point. |
SageMK:You guys are shameless lots. If it were a lady that did this now, everyone would be screaming how terrible women are. Now your fellow is at it, but you'd still call out ladies. Learn to take responsibilities and criticise logically. Dumb! |
This thread just summarises our lack of tolerance for alternative lifestyles. |
oyetunder:Who said people on NL are poor? Anyway, whether you like it or not, his making money. You can keep hating, it's free. |
Ciaos:No wonder you're a low life... lol |
LearnITsmash:What is I say "may you never grow old"? |
Where is the man? The security guy showing him the way? Or the dude videoing him without knowing he's just a typical paparazzi photographer? Or you who'll always be on his matter and claim you hate him? |
oyetunder:The only difference is that her madness comes with money... much more than most people's sanity can afford. |
SEGLIZ:Dumb response. |
YesNo:Thank you brother. You will live long. |
partnerbizz5:With your skills, education and talents, what have you achieved? You're doing your glo business and he's doing his media business. You think he's not working hard to stay up there? Live and let live. |
SEGLIZ:Hhmm... human beings! Oga, be honest for once nah. Dude was on his yet the man who felt he's more human that him decided to throw insults. And your judgement is "Bobrisky is always fighting to remain relevant". You obviously don't know when to be logical. I'd rather have Bob as a friend than share a space with you. |
All these word word people will not keep quiet and appreciate the picture ![]() |
chrisxxx:If she responds, y'all would start crying that she's infiltrating your spaces bla bla bla... Now she's on her own, y'all still won't let her be. |
Bro, find something doing with your life. |
GistTeller:It has causes stir? Hhmm... Nawa o. |
GraGra247:This is dumb. |
budaatum:Fact. If only all Christians shared this view! |
Marvyx:I don't think he was referring to lives of the early Christians as taught in religious studies because those days predates the advent of Christianity in Nigeria and his examples of what things used to be like then were all locally mined. It only shows he was referring to a more recent past, a time in our history when things were supposedly better. But then again, even if he was talking about the EC's, we in this part of the world never lived like the early Christians. All we know about them were what we were thought by same Christians. Glossy and sugary in terms of inter human relationship but we don't know how the minority faired. Those whose story we never got to hear. Those who didn't want to be circumcised. Those woman who wanted more in society. Those scholars whose findings contradicted the teachings of religious leaders. All these are just by the way though. My main stance is that religion as of old would not fair well today without some changes. This is what we need to know. This is what bokoharam guys need to know. Culture is evolving and it's taking religion along with it. At a point, it was ok to marry many wives; at a point it wasn't. In both cases religion/Christianity condoned it. Before, women couldn't teach in churches, today they do. In both cases, religion found a way to fall in line. The white man criminalized homosexuality, today it's acceptable over there and guess what, religion is condoning it. As we evolve, as we learn more, we keep changing and anything that refuses to be refined becomes toxic (as in the case of bokoharam). I don't know how to say this without coming off as anti Christian but this efforts to separate religion from other aspects of societal modifications are not practical. The truth is, religion can hardly be treated in isolation. As a matter of fact, it is a component of culture and as such bound to be influenced by other parts of the bigger picture. My point is, while the basic values of Christianity might remain fairly intact, the practices are definitely going to evolve with respect to what is obtainable in society. This progression accounts for the differences between the old and new testament and if we one should write another book of the bible today, I bet it'll reflect the factors that nuances today's society from what was obtainable when the new testament was written. People know better today and insisting on old religious practices in the face of facts against it will make us not any different from Bokoharam. Women are gradually finding their bearing in society today, abortion has saved lives and aided birth control, blood transfusion is saving lives today, slavery is illegal in many countries, etc. These heights wouldn't have been possible if we didn't know where and when to shun religion. Hope you see my point. |
Dlee1:He sighted examples of what he referred to as the days of old. Those weren't picked from the lives of early Christians. Those were instances of what our society used to be prior to the media age. Selective instances by the way. |
Realhommie:I like you! |
Hi everybody, My name is etrange. I am putting this post here because it is response to the thread: https://www.nairaland.com/5219145/heart-cry-revive-us-oh#78907023 First, I would like to thank EternalBeing for bringing things into perspective and thus giving me grounds to stand on. I would not have been able to easily put my thoughts together if not for the clearer picture he painted with his writing skills. This thread is therefore with all due respect to him. So I've heard a lot of people cry out about how our society has detoriated in recent times. These people would rather return to "the past". I agree with the first part but not the later. I believe a return to the past way of doing things is outrightly against the concept of progress. The bad aspects of our society today are direct or indirect results of the progress we've made in the good aspects. Like the two sides of a coin, these cannot be separated or treated in isolation. Most times, we idolize the past because of certain things we believe were better then. We do not appreciate what change has brought our way in recent times. But what we fail to realise is that what we refere to as "the past" is only a selective phase of our existence. The fact that this prefered phase is different from the phases before it is as a result of change. Change comes with both good and bad. Therefore, before you take the nearest route to this wonderland, a holistic consideration might be necessary. Do you want to go back to the days when men married many wives as a sign of wealth? Do you want to go back to the days when women's genitals were being mutilated? Do you want to go back to the days when SS babies were harmed cause they were believed to be Ogbanje? Do you want to go back to the days when twins were killed by some people? Do you want to go back to the days when people didn't know Jesus? I guess not, these are not days you were referring to. You were probably referring to a more recent past, a prefered phase brought about by change. You appreciated the change that made this phase different, favourable and pleasant but wish it died afterwards so the phase may live forever. But then, that's not possible. There are people who are free today because of the recent changes. They would never wantto go back to your preferred phase. Haven said that, I would like to add that I, personally, wouldn't want to just return to those days but I totally agree there are some things we had better then and retracing our steps in those regards would be great. I don't want to return to those days because I adore the mental freedom I enjoy today. It may seem ridiculous but the difference between those days of your prefered phase and now is freedom (IMO). In those days, society created norms and you must abide by them. People decided what was right and what was wrong on behalf of others. A man was expected to do certain things at different stages of his life: there was time to leave your father's house, there was time to get married, there was time to have kids, there was a way to talk, a way you must dress, etc. Anything out of these norms made one a social misfit. You dare not complain. There was no room for personality differences. Don't even mention preferences. These societal cages are still there today but thanks to change, we are getting free gradually. Even those who criticise today's society are enjoying these freedom. Today, I can decide to start giving birth years after marriage, I can decide to stay single forever, I can decide to embrace any religion of my choice, I can decide to be a career woman, I can decide to be a female politician, I can decide to be a female pastor; but I can also decide to be a hoe (no gender is better off here). The less progressive and more conservative folks believe that people with alternative choices are a threat to the sanity of our society. I do not see it this way. I believe society has been broken down into more personalised chunks since mankind now appreciates human differences. You are now allowed to create your own society just as you want it and let others create theirs just as they want provided no party is being harmed. Society is now your circle full of people that share your ideology. We must therefore learn to disagree in peace. Where necessary, we can be friendly but not friends. Let people live within their prefered society provided a third party is not harmed. So here's my take: Mankind has gone through different stages and it will continue to do so. No stage is particularly better and we are not moving back to any passed stage based on selective aspects. We must bear in mind that some people have achieved great heights today cause of the changes that brought about the modern day society, some are even alive today cause of these changes. So there's no need clamouring for a return to a certain point in time cause it favours our own ideology. But we can borrow some leaves from different phases of the past and use them as guides for relating with people in our chosen societies. Above all, we must learn to live and let live. Thanks. Cc: OAM4J Cc: EternalBeing Cc: Palehair Cc: Safarigirl Cc: realmindz Cc: MK93 Cc: Ugosample Cc: Elvis778 Cc: peeps4u |
This is a topic I like. I started typing my response here, it became so big so I decided to make a thread in response. Please, read: https://www.nairaland.com/5247678/really-want-go-back-old#79379268 NB: I do not agree with the OP. |
Hi, My name is etrange. I believe such a person is not a sexist. It's sad that we use these stories of women hitting men to undermine the struggles of feminism. Discussing feminism on the bases of physical combat reduces the whole concept to a joke. Why? Because the way a man handles a woman in terms of physical combat has little to do with feminism actually. It's more of morality and social violence and also reflects on the way he handles anybody he happens to superior to including his employees, servants, etc. regardless of their genders. Yes, I used the word superior because biologically, men are stronger than women in general terms (feminism does not argue this). You'd be criticised if you beat up a helpless man just as much as you'd be criticised if you beat up lady. Likewise, a woman who hits a man or refuses to hit one is not a sexist or a feminist. This is because defining such behaviours along gender lines indirectly condones violence against people of the same gender. Feminism is not about how you should react if lady hits you or whether a lady should even hit a man in the first place. Those are moral codes of conduct guiding how to relate with people who are helpless before you regardless of gender. It's therefore unbecoming to rope in feminism into such things. But then again, I understand why most men do that. Physical strength is one area where it is given that the masculine gender is stronger and therefore the anti-feminists work hard to bring the discussion around this sweet spot hoping to score points. Feminism is about equality in social construct. It's about motives. It's about getting rid of the prejudice - because she's a woman. A man who refuses to hit a lady back even when it's obvious he's stronger is a man who does not fight helplessness and would not beat up an elderly man or a small boy in the same circumstances so it's not about the sex. On the other hand, if you hit a woman, you're not chauvinistic, you're simply violent. And it'd still be violent if you hit fellow man. There's a struggle agaisnt violence but that's not feminism. Thanks. |
Hhmm... OP sounds like he's just creating excuses to cheat. I'll pass |
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