₦airaland Forum

EXLOVER:
The space that is remaining on that Buhari kaftan can accommodate another Buhari. This man should be collecting pension by now in a sane society.

For you to say "a sane society", that implies that Nigeria is an insane society. If this is true, then we known insanity is something that should cured or have an entity 'sectioned'. The question now is how should Nigeria be cured or at this point it seems like it needs to be "sectioned".

God'spower indeed.

padiga047:
Somebody is corporating with the Chinese to develop his state, you are saying that he is selling his homeland.


Where did they get dumb headed idiots like you from?


Did your parents win you in lottery?


It is the same people like you that will shout 'he is not working!!! ' if he chooses not to do anything.

Oh dear, somebody has been consuming too much plastic rice.

Chinese slave master, you mean. Keep selling your homeland.

This is the Lagos you people are scattering your head for?

The international terminal is really abysmal for an international airport.

Horus:
You still find Black's DNA in some of them, same for France, Italy. Eveytime you see familly names like Moro, Moreno, Morand, Morena, Moranos, etc, hey ave Black Moors in their ancestry

You don't find a significant amount, in fact most of them have no African ancestry outside of north Africa.

Horus:
Moors were PURE blacks and NOT middle easterners.

So where are their features in Spanish people today? How comes Spanish people's DNA points to Berbers and Arabs and never Senegalese or Malian people?

Horus:
You look at Mauritania today, instead try to investigate and look at Mauritania in the past (same for Egypt)

Egypt is 5000 years ago, 500 years ago the Moors were middle easterners and north Africans with some blacks mixed in.

Story story, story
Once upon a time, time time

Most Moors were not black they were middle easterners, please look at Mauritania.

ToriBlue:
Where are you driving to?

If what I wrote disturbed you it means you need to reflect on the matter.

All the rich South easterners are in, Lagos, all the rich south westerners are in, Lagos. This is the end result.

Nairaland is only a confirmation of the fact that Nigerians are completely desensitised to death and suffering, the way you people think nothing of somebody pasting even a child's corpse on the front page of a public website says a lot about most of you peoplea psyche. This is a trend that's very common in Nigerian media.

Rossikk:
Another stupid post. You may be an uncritical slave to America, but we are not. Whether or not we visit or migrate there. No country is infallible. If they fck up, we criticize them. If you can't stand that, tough luck.

Do you live in Nigeria, have you lived in Nigeria all your life?

YorubaMuslims:
USA is one of the most dangerous places to live in the world, do you know how many people in a month that die in the street by gun?

Jaymaxxy:
AMERICA IS THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACE FOR ANY BLACK MAN

madridguy:
Mtchew, who get America time.

If them give una US visa na tomorrow you go reach.

Charlesberry:
Please, don't be offended, what's the meaning of nwa and. Kedukosi adaa

nwa, child, younger person
kedukosi adaa, how is it going

selfmadeboss:
yes, they have igbo in their name but the pronunciation is different.
the igbos from the east is pronounced IBO while the igbo u see used by the abi people is pronounced igbo, the IG is pronounced the same wage u pronounced IG in ignore.
its hard to explain but its different.
u can use niger state in nigeria or niger- delta and compare it with NIGER as a country. the pronunciation is very different

Igbo (people) is pronounced I-gb-o, although I do not believe Igbo among the Legbo has anything to do with Igbo.

Again, why is a "leg chain" considered 'wild' in Nigeria? Why are you people so bush? Questions that need answers.

ChinenyeN:
Igbo people are so paranoid over "divisiveness" that they don't even realize that it's the paranoia (among other things) that is doing them in.

Truthfully, there is not much to discuss. This issue has been over flogging and not in the good sense. People have talked up and down about topics like this going from one Igbo-speaking community to the next. Yet, they never take it to the actual root of the matter. All the talk amounts to is the recycling of argument without saying anything new about the issue.

I'd like to commend Ezeagu for speaking what needs to be spoken. Igbo people's paranoia over unity has led to the worst type of self-censorship; it is the type that blinds a people from being truthful to themselves and compels them to remain content in the endless cycle of talk with no real movement forward.

And they don't want to understand that it is that centralisation and rigid terms of unity and conformity of a highly diverse language group without consultation of all parties involved during the colonial period is what has caused all of this problems in the first place. Most of these Igbo groups see 'Igbo' as an (old) Anambra and Imo hegemony and that is because of the historic centralisation in Enugu, Onitsha, Owerri, Umuahia.

myplaydiary:
Now I see how you intend promoting igbobuofu, what an irony, I would have love to explain this things to you, but I really don't want to derial this thread create another thread for it I will meet you there with more than enough fact and document to educate you.

But we're both here promoting a site where people post pictures of malnourished Biafra babies when arguing with Igbo people. I'm replying to the topic of this thread appropriately so another thread doesn't need to be created.

Ngozi123:
Many Igbo communities used the term "Igbo" to describe their neighbouring communities and not themselves. The term only became collectivised after the Europeans came, I believe. Onitsha people are proud Igbos. Like I said, some of them have an elitist mentality but it does not negate the fact that they are proud Igbos. The same goes for Ogbaru people too.

That is why I used the example, there are other groups like Ikwerre who called other people Igbo and it stuck, but also had many people among them like in Onitsha that said they were not Igbo. The point is that there hasn't been any leader or action by Igbo leadership that has come about to finally solidify Igbo identity which is why there's all this confusion happening all over the place.

And note the "scornful contempt" is also how some Ika and rivers people refer to 'ndi Igbo'.

Ngozi123:
Anyone who has any knowledge of us- Onitsha and Ogbaru- would know that that saying is just used for jest. Some people from Onitsha and Ogbaru have an elitist mentality and view themselves as better than mainland Igbos. I strongly condemn this attitude but it in no way means that they're denying their Igbo heritage. Also, accepting that migration story doesn't necessarily mean that they're denying their Igbo heritage. Onitsha was founded by an Igbo man and many Igbos, including my ancestors, once lived under the Benin Empire.

Well, it's already recorded history that Onitsha people from te have said they are not Igbo but Onitsha people, not by jest. Visitors who constantly get called nwa Igbo did not see it as jest, anyway, but a constant reminder that they are 'foreigners'.

Ngozi123:
When have Onitsha people denied being Igbo?

This is not surprising news, Onitsha people call or called other Igbo people nwa Igbo while they say they migrated from Benin.

myplaydiary:
Can you stop all this? now i am beginning to question your aim on this thread... thank God nobody is following your train of thought, don't worry very soon afonjas will, then you will get what you are looking for from cone heads, Olaniyi descendants.

Please you can create another thread for your postulations dont derail this thread. Thank you.

Is your contention that what I wrote is untrue, that Onitsha, parts of Anioma and the Igbo speaking parts of the 'south south' have many people who have or are still disassociating with Igbo, or is your contention with the fact that I pointed it out in the first place?

One of the biggest myths is that the so called "Afonjas" have much to do with this crisis within Igbo society, while everybody here is screaming 'Afonja, afonja' up and down Igbo businesses are still based in the heart of the so called "Afonja" land and some ndi Igbo have the effrontery to call it "no mans land" like they can fight "Afonja" and carry the land back to Igboland, the "Afonja" do not troop to Igboland like the Igbo troop to "Afonja" Lagos, the "Afonja" is being screwed by Hausa/Fulani as well but they somehow have kept their economy within their borders something the Igbo have failed to do. There is no "Afonja" that is stopping Igbo billionaires and politicians and other influencers from standing up and moving back east to push for port, to push for road, to push for a Lagos/Abuja class Igbo substitute or better, and to make sure Igbo businesses that others shun like Innoson are well patronised. Do you think if a member of OPC or another nationalist "Afonja" front was imprisoned like Nnamdi Kanu that Yoruba, sorry, "Afonja" big men and politicians would fold their arms like the ones in the east? Let us be honest.

I don't believe in digging heads in the sand, maybe more people should follow this train of thought.

ozoebuka1:
when will yorubas return to the sky where their forefather fell from?

Claiming divine origin is better than claiming being jews who migrated from thousands of miles away and 'turned black'.

While everybody is talking about Ikwerre, let us not forget that other Igbo groups are significant amount of members of the groups have claimed not to be Igbo, this includes parts of Anioma and Ikwerre, but also other rivers groups and Onitsha. The issue is greater than Ikwerre people being supposedly "lazy" or oil politics. It's clear evidence there is something lacking in Igbo society to hold all these people together.

Furthermore there are thousands of Ikwerre people who identify as / with Igbo which adds more to the confusion. By segregating yourselves you're only setting up more scenarios where an Ikwerre girl named Chioma is shunned from entering a beneficial Igbo organisation overseas because of her forbearers confusion, you're really doing yourselves and I wish we could more visibly see the difference between Igbo and Ikwerre so all this can be avoided.

Ikwerre people do not know where they stand, they are as confused as the rest of Igbo people, and yes I called them Igbo. Some Ikwerre people are very happy to shut up about "Ikwerre independence" when they can fleece off of benefits meant for Igbo people. Just looking at the entertainment industry, people like Monalisa Chinda and Tonto Dikeh are Ikwerre but they benefit from the industry, they know if they came with this Ikwerre is not Igbo fake news shit their careers will crash and burn. That's that.

Looking at Nigeria, it is absolute madness when you see there is a strong regional center or capital in every place but Igboland that is the base of the regions economy, Igbolands base in terms of economy, middle class, property and business, even politics self is in Lagos and Abuja. It's a shame.

myplaydiary:
You have a point there, but your assertion is wrong, Igbo's are only that way because of where they find themselves today (Nigeria) and everyone in trying to get to Aso rock. Nigeria have been more of a setback to the Igbo man than a blessing.

Secondly Igbos have no clear cut mission or agenda and lack leadership this have caused lack of direction and focus for the elite who represent the people. However all that is subject to change and does not affect Igbo's uniting to effect a change.

Ikwerre and some Anioma disassociate with Igbo because the Igbo people cannot strategise and stand for one clear goal in Nigeria. There are no Igbo leaders that would reach out to them to strategise, instead all you have is Igbo playing by Nigeria's divisive regional politics and calling themselves "south east" as if all Igbo speaking people are in the "south east", anybody outside of the "south east" does not strongly identify with Igbo, how would they when the "south east" doesn't see them as Igbo.

I have come to the conclusion that Igbo people as they stand do not have the ability to stand together in a common cause judging from politics and the way they do ntufu ntufu with their property and economy. Just my observation.