₦airaland Forum

agbotaen:
LETS LOOK AT  ITSEKIRI TRIBE IN DELTA STATE,- THEY ARE A PEOPLE THAT CLAIM,TO BE FOUNDED BY BINI AND YORUBA MIGRANTS AND IT  IS EVIDENT IN THEIR CULTURE WHICH  IS SOMETIMES A MIX OF YORUBA AND BINI CULTURES .,BUT TODAY THEY HAVE DEVELOPED CHARACTERISTICS THAT  MAKES THEM DIFFERENT FROM YORUBA AND BINI , THEY ARE ITSEKIRIS , EVEN  THOUGH  THEIR LANGUAGE IS HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY  OLD YORUBA WITH MANY BINI WORDS .HISTORY OF ITSEKIRIS TELL  US THAT IGINUWA THE SON OF OBA OLUA OF BENIN , MIGRATED TO  ODE-ITSEKIRI AFTER COMMITTING SOME OFFENCES IN BENIN , SO  HE WAS SENT AWAY , AND HE CAME WITH  MANY SLAVES, SERVANT AND WIVES AND WARRIORS,SO  HE MET SOME IJEBU PEOPLE AT THE WATER SIDE WHO MIGRATED THERE YEARS AGO, AND TOGETHER THEY INTER  MIXED AND THE ITSEKIRI TRIBE WAS FOUNDED AND IGINUWA A PRINCE FROM BENIN BECAME FIRST OLU OF ITSEKIRIS .SO WHAT IS DIFFERENT  IN IKA CLAIMS , TO BEING A MIXED GROUP  OF PEOPLE FIRST BINIS, THEN IGBOS AND OTHERS .
       EVEN UHROBO AND ISOKOS , SAY SOME  OF THEIR TOWNS WERE FOUNDED BY IGBOS,OTHERS BY BINI AND OTHER PEOPLE .AND  IJAWS. SO WHY ARE IKAS DIFFERENT ? .
    I AM FROM DELTA AND THERE  IS HARDLY ANY  COMMUNITY IN DELTA THAT I CANNOT GIVE YOU THEIR BRIEF HISTORY .

agbotaen:
ON NAMES NO  ONE IS TWISTING ANY  ONES NAME , IKAS HAVE BOTH BINI AND IGBO  NAMES AND THE  BINI NAMES IS OLDER IN IKA LAND THAN THE IGBO ONES, THE BINI IS USUALLY OUR  FAMILY NAMES  LIKE NDUKA OBAIGBENA .
    NDUKA IRABOR .
    IRABOR AND OBAIGBENA ARE THE FAMILY NAMES.

Abagworo:
Ifife is breeze in igbo,enyi is elephant,ogede is plantain,ogede oyibo is banana,ewu is goat,gini also kini is what,oji is dark,ojiji also ijiji is darkness,atu is deer.nti is ear as against eti for yoruba,onu also enu or inu is mouth.

The truth is that both languages evolved from one proto language.

Onlytruth:
The writer of this article is tribalist monster and he is afraid. He is afraid of the effect of this airport on Lagos, his base and tribal section of Nigeria. Never believe his sanctimonious fears of the funds being misused. His main fear really is that when Enugu airport picks up fully, there will be a major demographic shift in Nigeria from Lagos to the east.
I know, because I am an investor and entrepreneur, and I already plan the headquarters of my company in Enugu in anticipation of this airport.

But, the writer is late! The cat is already out of the bag! 

sbeezy8:
no there not and they dont have similar meaning either.

If you believe so name them and their meanings.

denzel2009:
What is mineral?

olafolarin:
Ndigbo is blaming anything and everything that goes wrong in their region on the Yorubas.
They should instead look Inward and profer solution to their problems.
Kidnapping school children is the height of greed, desperation and mediocrity.
No one except Ndigbo itself is to blame for the show of moral decay.Maybe the larger society should play down the role played by Money.For it is the root of all evils.

jaygetta:
Exactly! I cant but agree with you, however; To those disparaging the Igbos, I say "SHAME ON YOU". The outside world sees this as a "NIGERIAN" problem, not an Igbo one.   And to the Igbo sons on here shamelessly trying to shift blame as to why their kinsmen and brothers commit these heinous crimes, I say also "SHAME ON YOU"; this tells your mentality as a people and defending their atrocities shows that if given the opportunity, and if you thought you'd get away with it, you'd do worse!

yeswecan:
Folks acting like Biafra's a country already. . Igbo this and Igbo that - writing in Igbo and sounding like it is a different country only show how difficult some of you guys could be. People's position are expected to change with time, if you remain constant you will live in bitterness.  You guys have to learn to see things from a general view point and stop this separatist philosophy. I understand and respect the Igbo a lot. . you will never find a beggar in the east, all productive, neat and industrious.  It’s time for us to stop talking about the civil war and concentrate on how to move this country forward. We are all brothers now the earlier you see that the better for us. we have fight on all front. The problem of the Igbo cannot be separated from that of Yoruba or Edo for instance. . we are the generation – we are catching the same hell from these political elites-   we are the once we have been waiting for it is better for us to start negotiating a better future for our children based on the part where we agree instead of concentrating on our disagreement. Even if the Biafra has worked out there would still be a bit of disagreement – people cannot agree all the time, we compromise and work out things.

this tread is pointless.

beneli:
Biafra, the idea of a nation that one can call one’s own and be proud of, is a receding dream that has been replaced by a horrific nightmare that Nigeria is becoming. And Aba, a place which l call home, my roots within Nigeria, is in ruins because of a failed leadership. And it breaks my heart.

Let them who take joy in my misfortune, gloat.

sonya4all:
Hi all,i hav decided not to coment on this thread,but i was busy reading some coments both good/bad,but the last few coments realy has made me to speak,firstly i dnt knw if u guys stil remember me,cos we were speakin on a similar topic here,but it generated into abuses because i never had enough ikas to back me,@chinenye,i want 2 appologise for all the bad words i said 2 u in the other thread,this is becos i've realised that u take critical caution to think and understand peoples plight,also for not going your other igbos in forcing igboness on the ikas,thank u,so the main reason i want 2 coment is the false coment posted by andre,pls sir i also respect u,because it seems u r a professor of nigerian culture,but please stop imposing igboness on us,u said agbotean is speakin for himself,that is nt true,agbotean is owa,and i am umunede,and i tell u that we are proud of our tribe,IKA.I decided not to talk because the last time i did,i got alot of e-courses,frm u guys.Thanks.@Agbotean.Eworo yaki wu.

tpiah:
^^maybe in your experience.

tpiah:
some [or a few], not most.

agbotaen:
A PEOPLE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO  SAY WHO THEY ARE AND ASSOCIATE WITH WHOMEVER THEY LIKE.SOME GROUPS IN DELTA NORTH AREA OR ANIOMA ARE VERY  MINDFUL OF WHO THEY ARE AS PER THEIR HISTORY AND CULTURE , ONE  OF SUCH PEOPLE ARE THE IKAS , THIS OFTEN BRINGS HEATED ARGUEMENTS AND SOME TIMES IT OFTEN ENDS IN ABUSES ,I AM IKA AND I  AM PROUD OF MY ETHNIC NATIONALITY, I HAVE NO APOLOGY TO GIVE TO OTHERS WHO FEEL I SHOULD SAY  IAM IGBO. JUST TO EDUCATE SOME PEOPLE , IN THE ANIOMA AREA OF DELTA, 11 LANGUAGES ARE SPOKEN , WHICH INCLUDE IGBO, BINI, OLD YORUBA, IGALA ,UKWANI, ABOH ,IKA AND OTHERS.
     IN PLACES LIKE  UGBODU THEY SPEAK IGBO AND OLUKUNMI,IN AGBOR -THEY SPEAK IKA AND BINI.
     HAVING SAID THIS , I WANT TO SAY THAT THIS CONCIOUSNESS OF BEING IGBO, HAUSA, YORUBA,AND OTHERS JUST STARTED LESS THAN 150 YEARS AGO , AFTER THE BRITISH CAME,AND MOST KINGDOMS IN ANIOMA AREA WHERE LIVING ON THEIR OWN AS AGBOR KINGDOM,OWA KINGDOM ,ISELEUKWU  AND OTHERS .BUT DUE TO HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF WAR AND INTERMARRIAGES AND TRADING ,POPULATIONS MIXED AND CULTURES AND LANGUAGES FUSED.
         ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACTOR WAS THE BINI EMPIRE THAT CONTROLLED ALL THE AREA OF DELTA NORTH , THEN THERE WAS THE NRI -IGBO FACTORS TOO.AND THE IGALAS,YORUBAS AND ISHAN E.T.C.
       HAVING SAID THIS ONE WILL OBSERVE THAT MOST IKA KINGDOMS LIVED SEPERATELY DEFINING THEIR FUTURE AND WERE HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY  BINIS AND HAVE LIVED AS KINGDOMS AND NATIONS FOR CLOSE TO 1000 YEARS,THEY HAVE PRESERVED THEIR IDENTITY AS A SEPERATE PEOPLE ,DIFFERENT FROM BINIS OR IGBO,BUT HOWEVER THEY HAVE TAKEN A LOT OF THINGS FROM BOTH IGBO AND BINI CULTURE.
            IT WAS NOT DUE TO THE CIVIL WAR THAT IKAS SAY THEY ARE NOT  IGBOS,WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ON OUR OWN , WE HAVE NEVER AT ANY POINT  IN OUR HISTORY SAID WE WERE IGBO , SO IT IS FARE THAT WE ARE RESPECTED AS RESPECT BEGETS RESPECTS .
          1. IKA HAS SOME IGBO CULTURAL TRADITIONS LIKE-
  2. IKENGA ,3. IWAGI, AND WORSHIP OF ALI
     SO  ALSO IKA HAS MANY BINI TRADITIONS LIKE ,1. IGUE, IKABA,OGBANIGBE,OSIEZI,OHUMWEEDEN, OVIA, OLOKUN AND OTHERS .
     
   IKAS ALSO  FOLLOW THE BINI TRADITION OF KINGSHIP FROM FATHER TO SON CALLED OBI SHIP WITH REGALIA LIKE THE OBA OF BENIN, AND USING THE BINI USELU STYLE OF CHIEFTHANCY ,LIKE OBASOGIE, IHAMA, OLOGBOSHERE AND OTHERS. THE TOWN,PALACE AND HEREDITORY CHIEFS.
         OUR LANGUAGE WHICH WE ALSO CALL IKA IS AN AMALGAMATION OF IGBO AND BINI LANGUAGE ,BOTH IN WORDS AND STRUCTURE ,
   LIKE , NANI IRI -  HOW ARE YOU ,
    NENYI KPAMI OSELOBUE HUN OGI GBODONEYIN UYA- LETS THANK GOD FOR CHASING AWAY SUFFERING FROM US .

     HAVING SAID ALL THIS MOST IKA PEOPLE ARE PROUD OF WHO THEY AND THEY KNOW THEY ARE IKAS , BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME  IKAS WHO ALSO SAY THEY ARE IGBOS THAT  IS ALSO THEIR FREE RIGHT.WE DO  NOT QUARREL WITH THEM,THE IKA PEOPLE   HAVE  NEVER SAID ALL IKAS COME OR MIGRATED FROM THE SAME PLACE ,BUT  WE KNOW IKAS ARE HETEROGENOUS SOME COME FROM IGBO,BINI, ISHAN, ORA, UKWANI,ANIOCHA AND OTHER AREAS BUT THROUGH WARS, INTERMARRIAGES AND OTHER THINGS THESE PEOPLE HAVE LIVED ALMOST SEVERAL HUNDREDS OF YEARS AND HAVE DECIDED TO  BE IKA.I COME FROM OWA KINGDOM AND EACH OF OUR VILLAGES WILL TELL YOU WHERE THEY MIGRATED FROM BUT HOWEVER SINCE THE 12TH CENTURY WHEN THE GREAT WARRIOR KING ODOGUN CONQUERED THE VILLAGES AND MADE IT INTO OWA KINGDOM,WE HAVE ALL BEEN LIVING AS ONE.
   IKA HAVE TAKEN THEIR DESTINY IN THEIR HANDS AS WE  HAVE OUR SOCIO-POLITICAL ORGANISATION CALLED ONU IKA AND OGUA IKA ,THERE IS ALWAYS AN ANNUAL LECTURE PROMOTING IKA ETHNIC NATIONALITIES CULTURE AND HISTORY, THE LAST ONE WAS RECENTLY HELD IN UTE-OGBEJE KINGDOM IN IKA NORTH EAST OF DELTA STATE.
               NO  IKA MAN CAN DENY THE INFLUENCE OF IGBO ,NOR CAN WE DENY BINI INFLUENCE , BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT WE ARE IKA PEOPLE ,AND WE CAN CHOSE WHO EVER WE WANT TO ASSOCIATE WITH.NO TREAT OR INTIMIDATION CAN CHANGE OUR STANCE AS THE VAST  MAJORITY OF OUR PEOPLE FROM ALL OUR KINGS, CHIEFS,NOBLES, PEASANTS HAVE SPOKEN THAT THEY ARE IKAS.

Obiagu1:
No, not exactly easy and straightforward like that.

These days, movement is so easy and I don’t know how ethnicity will be classified in a century’s time, the mixing is so rapid.  I based my listing on who we were at the time of amalgamation in 1914.

Earlier when movement was not rapid and frequent, some groups get slowly absorbed into another group that’s why I said there’s always infusion and diffuse from an ethnic group. There are some groups in Igboland that migrated to Igboland from somewhere else, lost their original culture, adopted Igbo culture and Igbo language as their first language and are now 100% Igbos.
Also, I know of an Igbo people in Isoko who are now Isoko. They lost their original Igbo culture and language and Igbos don’t see them as Igbos anymore though people still know their heritage.

My understanding is that, like it is in Europe, if you were born in Igboland, lose your original culture and cut any relationship with your people, adopt Igbo culture and language, I’ll say get Igbonised, you’ll be classified as Igbo but if one wants to make a distinction, might say an Igbo of Yoruba/Igalla etc heritage.

tpiah:
i dont think so.

phreakabit:
@ezeagu

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phreakabit:
[size=18pt]@ezeagu Too bad your father gave birth to a mentally handicapped pickle d!cked flaming Fagg0t, I just hope you dont extend it to your male kids, Judging by the level of sickness in your first comment [/size]

Becomrich0:
which money. you no get money