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Very Interesting

Abeg China let us rest, which one is Fanta birus again?

The headline is completely false

It should read ARMED ROBBERS BEATEN IN AGEGE AFTER DAMAGING BOY'S LEG ON AN OPERATION

This is an interesting development.

IFEOLUWAKRIZ:
He is not an Igbo. He is one confused attention seeking Yoruba boy. He is not worthy to be dignified with a response. He does not only claim to be a girl on Nairaland but fights to be accepted as an Igbo. This says alot about his person both online and offline.

Such a confused mischievous fellow.

sarrki:
Coronavirus has reset the brain of muric

CAN of worms the bouyshop listen to follow


Wait ooo boko haram and all this kidnappings, Fulani herdsmen don disappeared oooo

The fear of corona is the beginning of wisdom. The Boko Boys and herdsmen know that if they fall sick it is western educated doctors that will save their asses.

[quote author=TheChameleon post=87706131][/quote]Ugggh this man is so irritating, his gap teeth remind me of my former chemistry teacher.

Garri,
Sugar,
Groundnut,
multivitamin
I can't kill myself

blueAgent:
No evidence or proof.

I just sent a Wikipedia article in the same text, every other thing can easily be researched.

Macsjebs:
As in, guys let's reason this together

How is it possible that the Bible was translated from Aramiac and like that to several languages before English without human modifications, errors and exaggerations.

How is it possible that it's a complete book and all parts were gotten and translated in a time when it was almost impossible traveling to several parts of the earth or say no known means or tech to preserve it in its original form like we have the internet today

The Bible is written in Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek. Many words in each of those languages do not exactly translate well to each other which is why there is great debate about what the author actually means in some Bible verses. It is not a complete book as the parts about the childhood of Jesus were mysteriously left out and there is a 300 year gap from the writing of the book of Macabees to the start of the new testament.

The Hebrew Torah was also heavily modified in the second temple period due to the adoption of a monotheistic belief system rather than the previous polytheism before the Babylonian exile which is why we have names like 'El Shadai' and 'Elohim' for God who's real name is 'Yahweh'.

The reason the Bible exists in the form we are accustomed to is because early Roman Church fathers came together to select which books would be known as 'canonical' meaning they were important enough to be added to the Bible (which is Greek for the book). Other books were deemed heretical and suppressed or destroyed and the people who preached them were persecuted. It wasn't until the development of the printing press and Martin Luthers protests that the bible was widely read by more than just the wealthy class or those affiliated with the church.

blueAgent:
Crap, see Scam.

How is it a scam?

What if you're going there to buy mask?

igbarasdynasty:
It will all disappear like it came!!!!

Listen to fraud pastors at your own risk.

OChimex:
The One and only true God who created everything in heavens and on earth, even you monkey , but he created u an intelligent human, not a monkey.

Do you want to know how real he is?

Again which god? Is it Ymir, Jupiter, Olodumare or Bharma?

OChimex:
Okay monkey.

continue in your monkey believe.

My regards to your fellow smart monkeys who dey for bush they enjoy life well without worrying about anything.

But you dumb monkeys decide to come into this world they cause troubles for monkeys like you.

You have tested your science to prove their existence right?
Do you know you can test God and see his existence as well?

Monkey if you want to taste and see God existence let me know.

Which of the thousands of gods have you tested and found to be true?

OChimex:
Okay. I heard you monkey..

Since you don't see the air we breath, does it make the air not in existence?

You don't see the force of gravity yet you believe in it.

So many things in chemistry and physics aren't seen, yet you believe in them.

You must be a very dumb monkey, unlike your father who live in the bush that you said are very intelligent. You are such a dumb monkey.

If I drop a stone at your empty coconut head isn't that a visual representation of gravity?

Stop reasoning like a kid, those things you said can easily be demonstrated through repeatable processes which is why it is considered science rather than wild assumptions or the supernatural.

buygala:
I wonder the purpose of all these studies which seek to force mankind into kinship with Monkeys

Hundreds of recordable and verifiable years before now till now, man's general features have not changed one bit...and Monkeys have remained monkeys...

so is it some sort of big bang that will take our features to the next level or what? ...because Evolution seems not to exist in the verifiable past but in a shadowy and unverifiable one..

You do realize that the process of macroevolution takes a long time to manifest visually. This sort of timescale which means you and I will be long dead before we see any sort of noticeable change. Your line of thinking is similar to assuming you never had a childhood because you see yourself as an adult now. The signs are there but people lazily assume that a monkey will give birth to a human.

Below is one example of natural selection, which is an aspect of evolution, due to human activity
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth

Another aspect is bacteria that have evolved resistance to current antibiotics.

As an example of human evolution people today are much taller than they were 500 years ago, the development is sickle cell anaemia as a form of malaria resistance and the ability of humans to digest milk.

We all knew this ages ago, how is this news?

Yenefer:
Israel is honest. This is an airborne virus that the species has not been exposed to. Time to build a “herd immunity”... what is going on here is a ploy by the Babylonians to destroy our little freedom.
This is why the virus situation doesn't seem so real. Seems to me if the situation was so so serious. These politicians would only be trying to figure out how to end the misery, But no, they are continually taking political shots at Each other.
I feel badly for anyone who is getting sick. But the Media and the Babylonians are playing this situation for their benefit and that's dispicable. The Babylonians are using the Corona Virus hysteria, to put the fear of God in our hearts. Whether they will say it or not, they are all dancing with glee behind closed doors over this Virus, it is the best thing that could have ever happened for them. If they can not win fair they will use Chaos and Bring the NWO, they fully intend to leave as much of a mess as possible to be cleaned up. So if no one can clean except them that's where vaccine will come up. That's the end game

Please can somebody ban this idiot?

penplus:
This guy is doing better than the President.


GOD IS OUR HELP

Though I have criticized him for being heartless several times he is really putting effort to ensure that Lagos doesn't run into a state of chaos lately. Buhari see your junior putting in the work, baba wake up!

Thank you governor, we will follow as instructed, sha this means I'm not staying at home.

Such a sad and avoidable death.

fortran12:
You need plenty lessons. Let me help.

No thank you, I am done subscribing to such irrational belief systems.

fortran12:
What is your proof that they are human misinterpretation

You just said it, these acts do not occur in nature and are therefore fictional. It's like asking me for proof that Jack and the Beanstalk is not a fictional story.
Using occams razor which is more likely talking animals and transforming sticks or tall tales written to deceive people?

fortran12:
The bible is always a reference to itself and not a website using extra biblical sources

This is why no reliable scholar takes it's miraculous claims seriously, I could write a book claiming Obansajo is actually a giant lizard in human skin but that does not make it true, any book that claims something to be true while others claim otherwise should not be taken seriously.

fortran12:
God created man with free will he did not create robots. You being the image of man that was created, am sure you have been deceived before and you sometimes see through the deception. It all a matter of choice (free will)

But you said God created man perfect, if that is the case then a perfect being created in the image of God should make perfect decisions obviously not fall for the tales of a reptile they just met. You can not claim something is perfect while glossing over it's imperfections. Your second claim is also ridiculous because God is apparently the author and finisher of everything, therefore everything that happens is a direct result of his action (or inaction).

fortran12:
you dumped religion cos either you were born into it, or did not understand it. Its like someone wiring up his house and refuses to connect to the national grid, he goes home at night ,flicks the switch and experiences darkness, he can blame nepa all he wants but his action shows he does not understand the concept of electricity. That is the same way alot if you guys are. You keep doing the wrong things and expect result, then eventually quit and claim it does not work. God is real, God works, all you have to do it understand him

What wrong things? We prayed, we went to church, followed the rules did whatever the priest or pastor said. We believed God was omnipotent, that he had no limits, that he sees everything but when we asked why God allows people who did nothing wrong to suffer we had no answer.

fortran12:
The sun is always there to for all to see, so you cannot compare to an event that happened in history. Jesus came via the nation of israel and his first disciples were from the same place and these spread the word of God to all the world. God is using man to spread his message, him appearing to everyone will still not change some people's mind as we all have free will to choose. As you have heard but you still choose not to believe, its a choice you have made , ignorance is not an excuse.

The sun is there for us to see yet God the most important being in all existence insists on being invisible. God insist on being hidden and open to whatever interpretation, God allowed thousands of different religions to spring up yet only showed himself to one group. Everyone else who lived and died at the other side of the world without even hearing about the Christian or Jewish god is now damned because God was shy.

Only a mad person says the sun isn't real yet there have been thousands of religions throughout the world and thousands of gods, how are you so sure the one you conveniently happen to worship is the correct one?

fortran12:
First of all, the car analogy cannot be used cos cars have no free will, God made everything good, the devil revolted and was punished, he came to man and deceived man, so how is that God's fault when, what devil told an outright lie and man bought it. God made man intelligent with free will (freedom to choose) and he choose a lie hence the consequnces

God made everything good, so why did the devil revolt, why did man get easily decieved, why even allow the (supposed) devil into the garden of Eden in the first place? Was he not good enough, or was God not in control when he made him? Or did the devil make himself? It's like I created a program that makes all computers go faster but they explode after one hour of use. Or if I made a delicious meal with a little bit of poison inside. If I did either then I would be put in prison. I can't claim credit for the meal or program then say the death of my guests or destruction of computers is because of the food and program.


Even still the punishment of death and suffering of their descendants for eating a bloody fruit is massively disproportionate, its like cutting someone's hand off for not returning your pen.

Moety:
We don't have corona like onyibos.

We have it we just don't test everyone we see, stop being ignorant.

fortran12:
Humans do not do these by nature, Jesus did all these you mentioned, Jesus is not man, his nature is divine. God has already created man, he has finished his work of creation , he is not creating a new brand or model of man, the man he created at the beginning cannot grow body parts so why will man now start growing body parts? God does not just answer any "prayer", he does not contradict his word

It is clear you don't read the bible or you just listen to the parts your pastor talks about. Balaam started talking to his donkey when it would not move (Numbers 22:28), Aaron turned his rod into a snake to eat the snakes of the Pharoh's advisers (Exodus 7:10-12) the whole point of miracles are events that defy natural understanding. Maybe Jesus (or whatever the author claimed Jesus said) in Matthew 19:26 was flat out wrong then.

The more you write the more you prove my point that the supernatural occurrences are human misinterpretations

fortran12:
The devil came via a snake, and there are refernces throughout the bible to prove that. Man was already knowledgeable as God created them perfect and they had free will to obey or disobey.

God created man perfect but apparently didn't create them with the ability to say no or tell when someone is trying to deceive them?

The conflation with the devil and the snake was made after the fact hundreds of years later by different authors with a different agenda.
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/bible-interpretation/how-the-serpent-became-satan/

fortran12:
There is no contradictory series of books , sorry, the bible contains Gods message to redeem the world. Even if he shows himself to all the world people who choose not to believe will not believe, and you are a living example of that. You have heard about it and you chose no to believe, so you are responsible for you fate, you cannot blame God for not giving you the opportunity

Right from Genesis the bible contradicts itself (http://contradictionsinthebible.com/category/genesis/) this is because the bible is written by men with different agendas thousands of years apart.
https://m.news24.com/MyNews24/The-Problem-of-the-Bible-Inaccuracies-contradictions-fallacies-scientific-issues-and-more-20120517

Your second point is also very laughable, I like most other people who have dumped religion on Nairaland and beyond were once Christian, Muslim or whatever. When we saw that prayers and supernatural claims were not provable or simply didn't work we started to question what we were told and read about other perspectives then came to the conclusion that religion was simply a massive scam. Just think the main reason most of the world is either Christian or Muslim is because they traveled round the world first and violently suppressed other religions and offered to 'help' others on the condition that they convert. If you were born in Rome 2000 years ago you would worship Jupiter and Apollo, because you are born in Nigeria after the British took over you are a Christian.

If God appeared to everyone round the world and not just in Israel to a few thousand people then there would be no doubt as to his existence just as there is no doubt that the sun exists. If this happened there would be no other religions not even Islam just Christianity but this didn't happen.

fortran12:
It was the devil and not a snake, man handed his control over to the devil as he chose to disobey God, these are consequnces of man's actions, so why blame God? God receives praise cos he inspires for good and the devil inspires bad things

God created everything meaning that he also created the devil knowing that he was evil therefore every evil caused by the devil is also his fault. If I build two cars one that travels very well and one that has no brakes, should I only take credit for the first car and take no responsibility for the second car that I made when it kills someone?

namiji2598:
I throught dey said jobs dey Lagos?

There are jobs in Lagos but the state is overcrowded so the jobs might not end up paying much, some don't pay at all and others have silly qualification requirements just to stop others from applying. Some people are fortunate that their jobs are enough to live on but most are not so most people end up doing a side business or have a partner with another source of income.

namiji2598:
am not ooooo brother


Me na kano self
Where that one dey chaiiiii

He is in Lagos

It is well, sha if anything happens to the church members they should not blame it on 'the enemy'.

fortran12:
How can you pray to a God you don't believe in? People who believe pray and get healed.

So you mean to tell me that there is no Christian in this world that has prayed for their?amputated limbs to grow back? To those that did how did that turn out for them?

fortran12:
It seems you do not understand the concept of responsibility. It's not God's responsibility to take care of the earth, God gave the power and responsibility to man.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+89%3A11&version=ESV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2%3A1-25&version=ESV

fortran12:
Humans by nature do not grow body parts so it makes no sense to compare them with animals that do.

Humans by nature do not resurrect from the dead,walk on water, turn rods into snakes, talk to animals and make the blind see. These things according to the bible happened yet God can't grow back amputated limbs.

fortran12:
You do not understand responsibility and consequence. Man is responsible for his life and environment. God gave man an order not to eat of the fruit. The devil ( not a snake) through the snake deceived man. How is that God's fault? Man bore the consequences of his actions but still God provided a way to redeem man, but You still blame God right?

God created the tree (for what purpose I do not know) and also created the snake, the snake is not the devil and was never referred to as such in the Bible, that is Christian revisionism. The snake God created deceived the humans God created, who had also never been told a lie before. Come to think of it both God and the snake were correct to a point in their claims the humans gained knowledge but it made them mortal.

Also what is the point of going through the complicated process of having a messiah appear to just a few people rather than just appearing to everyone at once? Why only reveal yourself to just one tribe in the middle east who will then make a contradictory series of books explaining what you are in different languages so nobody is ever really correct?

fortran12:
God sees the future,God is just and not partial. He gave man a perfect world, man destroys it so you expect God to just jump in after he handed man the job of taking care of the earth. God sticks to his word if he says man has responsibility he will not compromise what he has said

You are still not getting the point, God created everything the way he meant it to be so as a result the consequences of their nature are his fault. Man didn't create viruses that serve no purpose aside from killing host cells and replicating God did, Man might have eaten a fruit but how did it affect the other animals created before man? If the snake was going to upset the perfect balance why create it in the first place? Why can God receive praise for all things good and never receive blame for all the bad things that result from his creation?

I swear the yoruba traditional religion makes more sense than this Judeo-Roman imported religion.

Godblessbiafraa:
how many people wey you know, don die of corona

I know people abroad who have it, stop being an ass this is the same way ebola spread out of control in Guinea, because people either thought it was fake or blamed the disease on healthcare workers.