₦airaland Forum

Cromagnon:
you can't rely on cell phones
Keep your own record of result sheets

I never suggested destruction of result sheets.

LegendHero:
No serious country adopt something without having the necessary infrastructure to power it.

If we are to have an election and somehow people are disenfranchised because of not able to upload their result, we will have the same problem of people dragging parties to the court.

It’s just as saying because USA use cashless system, then Nigeria should just copy it in totality. We’ve seen what could happen during the cash confiscation of CBN. Even bank infrastructures fail it and people are not able to spend money.

For over a year or so, I have not held a single $$ cash and most of my transaction is done electronically which is because USA have the neccessary infrastructure to power it. But can same thing be done in Nigeria straight up without having the right infrastructure in place?

This argument of yours is not progressive at all but I admit you have the right to express it.

LegendHero:
Well I don’t think my reply to you is confrontational. If it sound so, I apologize.

Now back to the topic @ the bolded:

Aside textbook definition, we all know electronic transmission cannot work the same way across Nigeria because there are actually some region without internet and etc.

So what will happen in the case of people voting and result failing to transmit? Also, what will happen in the case of hackers jamming the network and uploading result on Irev such that inec agent on site are not able to upload valid result?

In that case, which version of the result do we trust? Paper one or the one on Irev?

No serious country will refuse to adopt a new concept because there are challenges around it. Of course, every new idea has challenges attached to the opportunities if offers. Tackling challenges is part of life.

So, the challenges you mentioned are not unsurmountable if we are serious and sincere about solving our leadership problems.

LegendHero:
What will uploading result from polling booth on Irev Portal solve? Let’s talk about magnitude in percentage.

Uploading result from polling booth won’t stop rigging. Infact, if irev result alone is declared as the source of truth, it will only lead to chaos and e-rigging.

1. Usually, rigging occurs in rural areas which are away from the eyes of media. You can bribe other party agents or threaten them and they upload doctored result on irev and that’s all.

2. Hackers can easily jam INEC network and then upload their own version of signed results.

3. If you mean to say both paper result given to party agents and irev portal should be used as source of truth, then what happens when an official is unable to upload result due to bad network is so remote area on time? Will they disenfranchise the people and cancel their votes because of that?

4. Peter Obi lawyers are deceivers. When Tinubu was up against PDP back then at the tribunal, he did not depend on INEC alone to prove his case for those ACN governors, but rather he went to bring independent forensic investigators to show that the number of time it takes to thumbprint some of the ballots is 5sec which is against the natural 5-15 min.

5. Now let’s even say INEC don’t like Obi. Then why can’t Obi ask his party agents to bring the result sheet they have, then look for some of the result on Irev and then compare them. If there is massive scale rigging, there is no way in hell where over 50% of the result on Irev will tally with the agent result sheet. So why did he present blank sheet when he can present actual Irev result that shows and use it as his evidence? Except if you are telling me the only result on Irev are blank.

Lastly, Obi is a sore loser. He cannot use back door to claim legitimacy of the federal republic president. That seat is bigger than him. He is a loser and DID NOT WIN ANY ELECTION.

First, my comment is not about Peter Obi but my opinion about future election in Nigeria. You have the right to express your own opinion.

Second, my opinion is that uploading results should be a COMPOSITE part of the election transmission with both electronic and physical transmission being two halves that makes a whole.

Third, rejoicing and jumping around today like a grasshopper because your candidate benefited doesn't guarantee that your candidate will benefit tomorrow if this shenanigan continues.

The fact is that Judiciary's treatment of presidential election petitions over the years has always been about avoiding political crises rather than giving justice to petitioners. From Obasanjo, Yar'adua, Buhari and now Tinubu, the worry facing the judges has always been the likely effect of judgement on political stability of Nigeria. Of course, financial inducement or any other interferences may not be ruled out but the mindset of judges is that all politicians are the same and none is worth sacrificing the stability of the country for. Interestingly, in spite of favourable PEPT and Supreme Court rulings in 2014, late Umaru Yar'adua accepted that the election that brought him to office was not free and fair and consequently appointed Uwais committee to suggest ways of strengthening electoral process.

For example in Tinubu's case, outright cancellation wouldn't have solved any problem because:
- The acting president who would have overseen new election is Senate President Godswill Akpabio who is dependable Tinubu's ally.
- The same INEC team that organized the cancelled election would have organized the new election and even in the situation that another INEC chairman is required, Akpabio would still have power to appoint.
- The IG of police who would have overseen the security during the elections would have been a Tinubu boy with 100% loyalty
- Same for security chiefs who would have done everything possible to retain their offices as Tinubu losing means loss of job for them.
In other word, ordering a new election wouldn't actually solved problem except create political crises apart from heavy financial burden on the treasury.

This is why It is important to make uploading results from polling booths mandatory part of the INEC's transmission of results to the collation centre. Otherwise, the current "go to court" shenanigans will continue.

Well...

This is a sign that there is no rest for the wicked especially when the wicked receives the news that an act of wickedness has bounced back to him from the Appeal Court like a lawn tennis ball.

Sarcasm

OAFMods:
You many of you foolish Igbos never cease to amuse me 😂😂😂😂

Wait, is this not what Tinubu went to India to sign that another foolish Igbo was busy posting what Buhari signed back then ?

I can not believe any Igbo can muster the effrontery to rejoice over exact same thing when you mocked another person over it less than 24 hours.

Many of you ipob Igbo deserve to be flogged mercilessly I swear.

I am not tribecentric like you. Stay on your tribalistic lane.

nice

Solution is here. Are you ready ndi Anambra?

Atiku has lost his magic.

It is ok to follow up the process.

blowjohn:
U don't get it.

She is saying that the lawyers no try at all.

There is a difference between a banter and a simple admonishment that a plaintiff ought to have done better with provision of strong evidence and witnesses. This banter of hers means "when they go low, I go low too" and that's sounds a bit childish.

kayperry:
According to which rule or whose law ??
you people just like making a fuss out of nothing you leave real issues and exert energy on meaningless thing

however nothing she said is outside the truth, besides she is only human tew

There is a difference between a banter and a simple admonishment that a plaintiff ought to have done better with provision of strong evidence and witnesses. This banter of hers means "when they go low, I go low too" and that's sounds a bit childish.

Femmyfamous4u:
She needs to explain why she is drawing such inferences. The onus of proof Is on the accuser. LP failed to provide evidence that they won. Which can simply be a collation of all result sheets from the polling units.

There is a difference between a banter and a simple admonishment that a plaintiff ought to have done better with provision of strong evidence and witnesses. This banter of hers means "when they go low, I go low too" and that's sounds a bit childish.

An unnecessary banter from the high bench. She ought to just draw inferences on the strength of evidence and witness' testimonies in front of her and state her judgement.

NB: There is a difference between a banter and a simple admonishment that a plaintiff ought to have done better with provision of strong evidence and witnesses. This banter of hers means "when they go low, I go low too" and that's a bit childish coming from a bench of a temple of justice which has a "blind woman" as a symbol.

Africa - The land of the confused

Tinubu needs to sack this man Mele Kyari for a breath of fresh air in NNPC.

Most Oyibo people are not too religious but they they are godly. Most Africans are too religious but not godly. When you are godly, you love but when you are too religious like the Pharisees, you lack love. Most African are Pharisee-like but most Oyibo people are Christ-like. That's the difference.

Well...

Congratulations to President Bola Tinubu on this favourable court verdict. Coming from nowhere as nobody to become the president is something that is beyond human making.

However, I felt the judges spent a great deal of time researching to shoot down the petitions than to review the pieces of evidence received and testimonies given by witnesses. Perhaps they needed to prove to the Obi-dients wrong about being bribed.

The only sad fallout from the court verdict, which I pray that Supreme Court will reverse is the issue of electronically uploading the results from polling booths as an essential composite part of INEC's collation process to complement the physical transmission. We can't raise the bar and then crash it stupidly.

God bless Nigeria.

ok

Enugupikin:
The bigwigs mining zamfara gold with bandits are bigger than him. Nothing will come out of this

Dele Alake is a coconut head and Tinubu has the political will to back him, he will take them to the cleaners.

Dele Alake needs every Nigerian's prayer.

On my honor, if Dele Alake succeed in unlocking the potentials in the Ministry of Solid Minerals, I will volunteer to campaign for him for governorship of Ekiti State.

By the way, after serving as commissioner in Tinubu's government, Dele Alake didn't go about begging for appointment from successive governors of Lagos or Ekiti State. He remained politically independent with unflinching loyalty to Tinubu.

Dele Alake has tendency to exhibit coconut head if a situation warrants it and this solid minerals sector warrant it badly.

thegrinch:
It is called Discipline... A word I'm sure you do not understand. Only chicken-brained children like you who were raised on Screens can be addicted to Social Media.

Before the Internet existed, People had lives, and Duties and Responsibilities.

Yapping!

Good move.

Yugoslavia247:
You have never worked in a multinational company so quit saying shit.

I worked in one.
No one did any background checks.
If I forged a cert no one will know.

You haven't worked in a credible MNC because credible MNCs do due diligence on candidates before recruitment and they outsource it.

thegrinch:
You were making sense, and then your brain poured out of your skull like indomie in a leaking basket.

Judges intentionally refrain from consuming articles and posts, especially when they are working on a case. It's a requirement of the job.

When you don't have the right information, keep quiet.

In this age of smart phones and social media, judges intentionally refrain what? Continue to live in your utopian world.

Only foolish dad and mom with their son making making so much money that will not stick together to enjoy the money.

Happy Anniversary old folks!