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purples25:
In my opinion, women shoot themselves in the foot on that issue. The women that cover themselves are constantly mocked and mistreated by those that are in the latest fashion. Until one joins them, they can't do their fashion in peace. Guys too, they mock and avoid modest women. Modest women today are being left alone by most guys, only the village boys are left for them. And these are your guys o, later they will come and say all ladies are ho.es.

well, for a woman of today to remain decent of her own free will, it takes realising that your life isn't about others opinions. Believe me, with the harassment IT IS NOT EASY for a woman to just be decent.

True. The pressure is undeniable. But one of the usual many the christian is faced with in life's journey. But then again, it won't be so difficult if women realise, you can look so awesome and colourful/fashionable without compromising decency. I've seen many ladies look that way even some non-christians at times. No one has to go around looking old-fashioned, unappealing like olden-days deeper life.

Zhirinovsky:
My lil input

Sexual lusts and immorality can be tend by first recognizing that it is a spiritual battle. Always pray at midnight and pray against demons of lusts and all forms of sexual immorality. Fast often with prayers. Stay away from everything that will ignite lusts in you heart. Always meditate on the word of God. Apostle Paul said somewhere in the book of corinthians that when the israelites where on their way to Canaan, in a day two and a twenty thousand fell (died. (never reached the promised land)) due to the sin of fornication and he went further to tell us that that was for ours to learn the lesson of the consequences of sexual sins.

Good one bro. Check my reply to the last brother too. Im just against these endless warnings without practical recommendations.

purples25:
I try my best not to judge men over their nature. If they can be taught as you suggested, that would be really useful.

Good of you then, sis. If many ladies understood, they'd also dress appropriately to do damage control.

SimeonOTC:
bro Overcoming sexual sin is not easy cux even the bible nvr told us to fight against it but to FLEEE!! 1st corithians 6vs18, 2nd timothy 2vs22 both started with "FLEE"..

the only few and well known working solution is

* Start changing and working on your mindset (especially the way one's think)

* Study the word of God and Pray (VERY VERY IMPORTANT)..
the devil, or any kind of immoral spirit or thought are not afraid of one going to church or praying 2.4.7, they are only afraid of one's knowing the word of God, i swear bro, they are dam scared of the word of God, they cant stand it..How

take a look at this short description / explanation;

Jesus said in the book luke 11vs24 "that when an evil spirit leaves a person (they become disembodied spirit) , it travels through the arid(desert) region looking for where/who (human body) to settle on,and when they dnt see any, they go back to the body they left and when they see the host has been cleaned, they go back an invite 7 extra demon".

bro, this things happen when one masturbate, especially when one wants to stop masturbation.
after chasing the sexual urge with the word of God, it comes back latter, with the urge more stronger, it take the grace of God and it word to overcome it. i passing through that process and i nearly died ..but it makes me stronger, though i stil have sexual urge but they are so weak and cant pull me down cux i already defeated and came out from a stronger one.

back to God's word,

one has to know and meditate on the word like;
" my body is the temple of the holy spirit whom have receive from God and who lives in me according 1 Corinthian 6vs19, now the lord it the spirit and where the spirit of the lord is, THERE IS LIBERTY!! (blast in tongues)
he said he has given us is spirit not of timidity but of Power (2nd timothy 1vs7),
by the power vested in me by the most high, i liberate myself from any spasmodic immoral spirit that is not of God, i build a wall of defence with the blood of Jesus against them"

thirdly and lasty,

* Self discipline and self control (1st Thessalonians 5vs5-10, titus 2vs6, 1st Thessalonians 4vs4, proverb hmmmm, IN FACT, EVERY SINGLE VERS AND CHAPTER IN PROVERB)

sorry for the long tori

Not long tori at all. Bro you've already done better than OP. You've listed some practical points at least. So we can say it this way too. The principle is persistence/perseverance in what you've outlined. Building up spiritual strength and capacity requires consistency in spiritual exercise(prayer, fasting, and meditating on the word) in the face of seeming failures and unceasing showing up of the flesh again and again. If you stick to your spiritual exercise, eventually you would awaken your inner man and he will rise and overcome the outer man/flesh. However, most men don't know and they quit their spiritual exercise before their spirit is unlocked to rise to the occasion.

purples25:
Its guys that always act like sex is their beginning and ending. They push and pull ladies, but if the women have no prompting and no motive, they can actually live peacefully without it. They always try to make the situation so that women can look desperate for sex too. With women sex has a motive cuz think - they can do without it with ease , with men, they are just very very horrrny.

Its understandable that you don't understand but i assure you if you were a man you would act just as many do. Its in male physiology, only the well enlightened about it can master it especially after being " disvirginized". Ladies shouldn't judge men because they're not in the same condition men are in. However, the good news is all men can be taught practically how to master their urges. Unfortunately, churches don't do this, they simply condemn the act or advise people not to engage in it.

Seun:
I think God should just prevent them from sinning. Allowing them to engage in adultery and then punishing them for doing what they were allowed to do is not ideal.

Not in agreement with OPs tone though, seems quite legalistic. Maybe wrong though. But your suggestion is unjust. Giving a creature existence without freewill. That way you wouldn't even be able to open nairaland forum or anything else you wanted to do, you'd be an unfulfilled robot always wondering what it would have been like outside your "programmed code" and consistently questioning in your mind if God is actually the best option possible although you'd be grateful for whatever benefits you get to enjoy for obeying him. This is sort of what happened to Satan.

True in some sense but even reading the scriptures to see jesus in them doesn't necessarily give the impact of eternal life. Until you make real-time, vital, tangible but spiritually discernible contact with Him through His Spirit in you, which will automatically be evidenced in outcomes of your life, youre just as good as those pharisees searching the scriptures for eternal life.

One of the major problems christianity today is faced with is a lack of order. Some of these people who go out to evangelise are doing more harm than good to God's cause. No one should ever, i repeat ever go on evangelism or to speak for God to men unless the Spirit of God sends them out (Rom 10: 14-15). It is against true christian dogma to speak for God except he sends you to. And when He does he will anoint you with supernatural power( Heb 2:4, Mk 16:20). Again, even if God sends you, once you no longer have the witness of His power, you lose the right to keep speaking for Him. (1Cor 4:20). However, were free to develop our graces among ourselves sharing with one another in fellowship. And our responsibility to outsiders is to demonstrate Lord Jesus dominion over sin with our sinless living. PERIOD.

This is the reason why sexual immorality is ever growing in christianity, were too legalistic about it, as in, we keep telling people to avoid for one reason or another but we never teach them practical steps to overcome. @OP what PRACTICAL steps do you recommend. We all know that sexual desire is such a bondage, highly insurmountable especially with the heavy pressure from today's lawless, immoral world. So arm the youth with workable knowledge and don't just say its by grace. Explain exactly how it works. This is how we help men out of the bondage.

OP Judgement is a very broad concept that may take weeks of one on one conversation to discuss but in a nutshell, basis of judgement for believers is whether or not you loved, which means ultimately whether you chose to dieso that Christ will live through you because thats the contract between us and God. He died so that those who live wont live to themselves, (they die in other words), but unto Him. 2Cor 5: 10-15., also 1Cor 3:10 -15. Secondly your difficulty is that you try to put God into your frame of existence, if God wanted to, he can judge 14 billion souls in a split 'second' and simultaneously because in the spirit, time is unreal. However this shouldn't really be your concern but on the standard set for you

thank God you concluded by saying the right approach to power is the love way and not miracles.
I'm telling you that you can set men free from sin, satanic captivity and sickness by mere loving them. You don't need miracles or supernatural power to do that

Totally misunderstood me bro. Check the text i gave (1Cor 12 -1Cor14) like paul, i never advocated for love without power, i said love producing power otherwise your love ain't well developed or worse still aint spirit energised (just humanistic lacking the divine element)

hello, having the life of God in you does not mean you should have any supernatural power to perform miracles.
Yes it is true that some people are gifted with gifts of miracles for signs and wonders but I'm saying that there are other gifts of the spirit much more better than that of miracles. grin

Take it from the lips of the Lord Himself (Mk 16:17). Again, if you let his life flow through you, it would be as if He was walking this earth again through you doing the same things He did when He was on earth, healing all sickness and casting out demons.

unfortunately, a lot of people claiming to have supernatural powers for deliverance cannot identify those who are in boundage that should be set free and those who are already free and do not need any deliverance. All they do is to tackle fellow ignorant Christians in church telling them they need deliverance meanwhile they cannot approach any Muslim or non Christian to tell them they are in boundage that they need deliverance or even cast demon out of them in public like Jesus Christ and early apostles did in the bible. Is that not treachery?

Thats why you should get have love that produces power. You have just identified a need, but apparently have no power to meet that need. Love meets needs. Gods love meets supernatural needs. If you love those people show them the living Christ through you.

jclassiq:
Why does your moniker say FinallyDead? I hope it means dead to sin.lol

Good try bro tho. But for now i think its wiser to keep it a secret

paxonel:
true!
And that is exactly how God want us to be.
Being human
Do you know that there is power in just being human and not being pretending that you have extraordinary power?

Sorry bro but God didn't come to this earth to die and give you divine life just so you can love in a human way and not 'pretend to have His life. He gave you His life so you can live it rather than yours. You shouldn't just be good to people, you should be 'God' in every sense that He was when on the earth. That's why he put His life in you except you're just 'pretending' that His life is in you which I believe you're not. So your quest should be how to get this life flowing out of u.

if I may ask, what do you need the divine power for?
To show to people that you have it, then they will come around your church for healing and you make yourself indispensable in their lives?

Im sorry bro that there are so many who seem to be using divine power for things of that sort. But they shouldn't stop us from using divine power for the right reasons. Our Lord walked in divine power to set people free from Satans bondage (Acts 10:38). If you really want to set men free from sin, sickness and satanic bondage in general today you need divine power. (1Cor 4:20) Satanic captivity grows in our world today because of the lack of it. Paul says our struggle ain't against flesh and blood but .... (Eph 6: 10) and he recommends the right approach to power by his comparisons b/w the love way and the no love way in 1Cor 12-14.

paxonel:
thats the truth.

Love is greater than any miracle we can ever think of

Bro, love without power is humanistic love. Although power may work without love. Divine love however activates supernatural power. Dont be misguided. Many people accept and spread this lie of demons when they can't figure out how to activate the power of God.

Lamanii22:
Okay... Thank you so much...

Thanks to God.

Lamanii22:
Okay.. Let's put it this way... Continue in that love and that love would produce more power and then miracles happen... Isn't it??

Good way to begin. But expect many questions to arise as u work towards that.

Lamanii22:
I kinda agree with you... The miracles that happened in the old testament was great and powerful... But when Jesus advised.. He said we should love one another....

Dont agree to lies. Be careful what you allowget into you. The Lord sometimes did greater miracles than recorded in the Old Testament ranging from raising a man four days in the grave to commanding the storm to obey him and turning water to wine because love results in power (although power could still come without love). And He said he who has faith will do the same works and even greater works. So develop love until it produces great power which was pauls point in 1Cor 12- 14.

The thing is we are wrongly indoctrinated in christendom today in every way so that the average believer doesn't have a set goal for his faith. Even some here are saying we don't need miracles today just love (what an oxymoron, true love gives birth to miracles even though they can happen without love which was Pauls point in 1Cor 12-14). So without clearly defined goals we automatically are stagnant and not developing our faith. Our many celebrated figures worsen things by not preaching the true word of God but preach all sorts of stuff which ends in leaving believers with only a responsibility of sowing into their anointing through seeds, tithes and offerings and an impractical (because they're only told to but not how to utilise grace to) task of living righteously (no real standards marked out). Good news though is God wasn't taken by surprise by man's failure in handling the gift of grace and all good and evil will only spice the story He's writing through history. Watch how He's gonna unite us in the true faith to attain the fullness of the stature of the son of God in the unfolding times beginning with the soon release of several men he's kept behind the scenes, who he's been training like David and his mighty men in cave Adullam onto centre stage to dazzle and reclaim this world with the display of His raw power and glory as in bible days. They will teach the true gospel clearly and unambiguously so people can grow in their relationship with God. Heralding the good news so we don't lose hope. The time for this is already so close.

Neroiam:
I read the Bible for myself hence i can back my claims with scriptures. With the help of the Holy Spirit, I understand what i read.

It was the fear of job that caused him to be tempted. The devil feeds on fear. Job 3:25

Once a blameless man isn't always a blameless man.

Sorry, the first part of that post was directed at someone else, i should have edited it out. pls read my modified post. By the way the reason Job suffered was revealed in Job 1 and 2 in the conversation b/w God and Satan. Its not fear as you presume. Satan will test all who live righteously just because they live so whether they're full of faith or not. (2tim 3: 10-12, 2Cor4: 7-9)

Neroiam:
Show me where God tell you say you'll suffer as a Christian.
I stand to correct your misconceptions..

Proverbs 4:18
But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.

In life, challenges would surface.. Infact, there's no time table for it. That doesn't mean an up and down movement. The opposition is there because a position awaits you. So you climb.. Unto the just man wey u be..
But guy, if u dey do bad thing eh, na dia u go dey.... And that's the reality

When you hear "the just" ..they're those who walk with God.
If you want to walk with God so you don't experience up and down life movement, use;

Phil. 4:8 as your manual.
Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things

Job had one of the most oustanding profiles of men in scripture. Job 1: 1 said clearly that he was perfect (blameless) and straight which is as far as anyone could get with God outside of grace. Blameless means there was no point you could fault his life because he made all necessary intercession ( sacrifice for sin) and met all requirements of God. But understand that Jobs problem was that he was blameless which Satan had to challenge to prove that no one really loved God for nothing (selflessly). Book of Job was written to help believers expect testings from Satan as they live to prove their selfless love and devotion to God and how God would eventually reward them if they hold out through the tests. James 5: 10-11. Also, the whole book of 1Peter was written just to encourage believers to endure through suffering and not to be surprised by it. 1 Pet 4:1,12-13

HigherEd:
You talk like someone who has an angry demon living inside of him. You are free to haul whatever insult you choose to haul. I really choose not to waste my time on a blockhead who has chosen the path of stupidity.

The bible not me said
1) Tithing was for rebuking the devourer - established

2) Job a man of God was 'devoured' at a point in his life - established

3) There was no record of Job tithing like Abraham, Isaac or Moses - established

Therefore would you blame someone who interpreted that 1 and 3 resulted in number 2.

If Job tithed truly and God didn't rebuke the devourer for his sake then that makes the bible what? because that would render Malachi 3 as an invalid scripture even in the old testament.

Sorry sir, but I'd say no to that. Don't accept everything you're told from the pulpit even if coming from a respected man. Do your own study and work with your findings. First off, my comment is not for or against tithing but just for the record sake. Job had one of the most oustanding profiles of men in scripture. Job 1: 1 said clearly that he was perfect (blameless) and straight which is as far as anyone could get with God outside of grace. Blameless means there was no point you could fault his life because he made all necessary intercession ( sacrifice for sin) and met all requirements of God. If tithing put Job in that situation, it would have taken repentance by tithing to get him out. But understand that Jobs problem was that he was blameless which Satan had to challenge to prove that no one really loved God for nothing (selflessly). Book of Job was written to help believers expect testings from Satan as they live to prove their selfless love and devotion to God and how God would eventually reward them if they hold out through the tests. James 5: 10-11. So, no, it had nothing to do with tithing else Satan would have accused Job of that before God.

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Trump has faced the worst assault on any POTUS ever all because he really wants the best for his country. Shows the reality of deep state and the cabals/elite who would compromise their peoples good for selfish interests. It's also exposed how much of media today is compromised (CNN(these guys are a disgrace. Can't even say ONE good thing about him. They can't even cover their obvious bias with some FAKE neutrality at least), Guardian ...and all leftist media outlets). I think only Fox News is doing good. One day the deep state and swamp men will be exposed. God's anointed will do His will and America will be restored to God eventually. Amen!
#KAG2020#

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unstoppable51:
"Weak" is an understatement. Majority of our Nigerian youths only read headlines.
That's why we're so ignorant of the Word of God

Yeah but it's only a farce. Look critically at OPs post you'll see he's really trying to replace some of Jesus' teachings with a more "progressed" teaching of Paul. Again and again he makes comparisons towards this. That's what I'm very much opposed to. A lot of people think Paul brought more light to what Jesus brought and as such we should move on to that not realising Paul's letters' scope was limited to gentile churches while Jesus's went as far as the end of the age and were from a higher perspective. And such people will often promote Paul's teaching and try to look for how to make Jesus' agree with it(in their attempt to not discard Jesus'). But It's a world apart from taking Jesus' teaching literally and getting to see Paul's agree with it (which we should tend to). That's why I suggested the safe approach in my post. Again I stress that we are not progressing from Jesus' teaching to Paul's (just because the gospels come before the epistles) but from Paul's to Jesus' because Jesus spoke from the higher perspective. So u see that OP and I only seem to agree but are still worlds apart. It is VERY dangerous for our spiritual lives to remove Jesus' teaching from being our foundation or to at any point progress from it to any other's, we should only look to see them in the teachings of others. Believe me, this makes a great difference in our lives.
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@OP stop manipulating scriptures, John 14:26 means only remembrance(not understanding) and I checked that with several Greek lexicons, so please always be humble and reverent enough to not adjust scriptures to match your theories no matter how true they seem to be to you.

Jodera:
Yeah, I agree with your post in terms of criticism. But in the end, both of you are saying same thing. Which is Paul isn't contradicting what Christ says, but Paul is expressing all what Christ says in clearer terms. And if any one feels contradictory, then the help of the holy spirit is needed to explain it more for better understanding. So basically both of you're saying same thing.
What op was just saying was that he's debunking the misconceptions which says that Paul writings and speech are contradicting that of Christ

Yeah but it's only a farce. Look critically at OPs post you'll see its really trying to replace some of Jesus' teachings with a more "progressed" teaching of Paul. Again and again it makes comparisons towards this. That's what I'm very much opposed to. A lot of people think Paul brought more light to what Jesus brought and as such we should move on to that not realising Paul's letters' scope was limited to gentile churches while Jesus's went as far as the end of the age and were from a higher perspective. And such people will often promote Paul's teaching and try to look for how to make Jesus' agree with it(in their attempt to not discard Jesus'). But It's a world apart from taking Jesus' teaching literally and getting to see Paul's agree with it (which we should tend to). That's why I suggested the safe approach in my post. Again I stress that we are not progressing from Jesus' teaching to Paul's (just because the gospels come before the epistles) but from Paul's to Jesus' because Jesus spoke from the higher perspective. So u see that the post and I only seem to agree but are still worlds apart. It is VERY dangerous for our spiritual lives to remove Jesus' teaching from being our foundation or to at any point progress from it to any other's, we should only look to see them in the teachings of others. Believe me, this makes a great difference in our lives.

Jodera:
I'm not saying it's perfect nor can't be criticized. That's from people who read it to constructively criticise from where the feel needs criticism. But from responses been aim towards the op, you'll see criticism like:
1. Op you don't know what you're saying, Paul and Christ are saying same thing.
2. This OP needs understanding from the holy spirit, how will you say Paul is contradicting Christ.
And so on and so forth.
Now if you read fully what the op wrote, you'll find out that those people who gave all those responses, if only would have been little patient to the end, wouldn't have given such a response. And that's where I'm coming from.

Ok. what would u say about my post?

codemaniacs:
every living thing has a brain and its part of what makes up living things.

apart from the wind, earth, water, moon. only the sun was there at the beginning, the present and the future...

And whoever's idea that is has to have at least a brain as intelligent as the most intelligent brain in the universe, huh, smarty pants? Ur smart enough to see that, I know!

codemaniacs:
use your brain..

you were given a brain to train the brain so that you will be able make smart decisions and take smart actions.

can you eat natural food without sunlight?
can you grow trees and food naturally without sunlight?
rays from sunlight also heal people.
the only thing above all creation is the sun.
the most high thing in the world is the sun.
the only thing that can send down fire is the sun.

And just who Sir, gave that brain. He must have one don't u think?