I watched the video and was quite revealing , I don't see reason why such technology cannot be deployed in the country to solve the housing gaps buy the local , state and federal government with different houses plans to accommodate all strata of people of the society
This benefits of this video after watching are numerous ,below are a few
1.Time savings in delivery time 2. No wastages (Agile management ) 3.Huge cost savings at the long run based on economy of scale 4. Quality assurance 5.Elimination of middle men in the chain of supply
The list can go on and on, how I wish One can introduce this building style inhe country for personal estate development.
Many thanks for your contribution the property section
BECALMBECALM: Guys my friend has been in ilorin for days now.The houses some agents are showing him does not worth it.Then the one he choose requires that we are going to paint the inside.The landlord said we will paint the inside with our money.(though is a new house).Can you guys link him up to another agent that will show him a good place.This guy came all the way from Kano.
Let your friend be very careful, Agents are all the same be it Lagos, ilorin Ibadan or else where they are just after their "pay" without protecting clients interest when it comes to what the landlord need to fix they pass it on the prospective tenants , by all standards the house in and out should be painted by landlord
However, if he needs to get another agent to assist he should check around Kwara hotel ads and before government house there should be some estate agents office in that locale or better still he should do a goodie search for estate agents and values in ilorin
EgunMogaji: I have a question for folks that do not live in their houses in Nigeria full time.
I've heard from other relatives that when they get back to Nigeria that they have to deal with a lot of dust and mildew.
What if any is the solution short fo allowing the MaiGuard to have access to the interior of the house and allow a Maid to clean. I really don't like that as a solution.
Thanks.
I don't think this will be a good solution, if you do clean up on quarterly basis ,I assure you thatthe inventories of items in the house will also reduce every quarter.
This would have being a very good business plan to set up a cleaning company that helps people in diaspora to take care of the cleaning of their houses in absentia with a detailed inventory management systems of the house to client on every clean up
At the risk of offending other very worthy builders, I highly recommend Darenyx https://www.nairaland.com/darenyx. He did my architectural plan. Just an all-around pleasant person to deal with and a true professional. A young person with modern viewpoints, timely and in my opinion very cost effective. I am a twice paying customer and not a paid advertising. I just like to reward good guys.
segzy14: Ensure you fence your property after purchase and getting all necessary documents to avoid trespassers. I will be showing you how to fence your property and putting a gate on it, coupled with the necessary building materials that will be needed for your fence. Our case study will be on a plot of land, 18m x36m(60 feetx120feet). Below is the Processes and their cost;
1. Site clearing: This is the cutting and removal of bushes and shrubs within the property. This is the first operation to be done when the beacons of the plot has been set by the land surveyor. It is done in order to prepare the site for excavation and other site activities. The cost depends on the size of the plot, the people performing it and the equipments to be used. The cost ranges from 30,000 naira and above. Total cost for this stage is 30,000 naira.
2. Excavation: This is the process of digging the soil out where the foundation of the fence/building will sit on. The cost depends on the size of the plot, the depth to be excavated, the equipment to be used and the people performing it. We will calculate the cost of excavating a plot of land 18m x36m(60 x 120ft) Depth of excavation =600mm= 0.6m Width of excavation =675mm=0.675m (i.e 3x225mm(9inches block)) Length of the plot= 18m +18m +36m +36m= 108metres If we are fixing gate , we will deduct 3.6m (12feet)for gate Length of plot =108m -3.6m = 104.4m Quantity of materials to be excavated = 104.4mx0.6m x0.675m = 43cubic metres The rate of excavation ranges from 750naira per cubic metres to 900naira per cubic metres. Cost of Excavation = 43cubic metres x 750 = 32,250naira. Total cost of Excavating a plot of land 18 x36m is 32,250naira only.
3. Blinding: Blinding is a layer of sand , granite and cement throughly mixed to provide concrete, it is placed on the ground after the excavation to provide a level surface and a resting place for the fence/foundation to sit on. We are going to calculate the materials needed for blinding like the cement, sand and granite. Often times concrete are mostly 1:2:4 ratio, when you see such specification, it simply means one bag of cement to four headpans of sand and eight headpans of granite. Note that the first number represent a bag of cement which is equivalent to two headpans, hence the sand is taken as four headpans and the granite represented by 4 in the ratio is taken as eight headpans. Going by this knowledge it is easy for us to do a calculation of materials needed for blinding a plot of land 18m x36m(60 x120ft). To do this calculation add the sum of the ratio 1+2+4= 7. The total length of the plot is 104.4m Normal thickness for blinding ranges from 50mm(0.05m)-100mm(0.1m)on level ground but may vary on a sloppy land, the width of the excavation is 675mm= 0.675m Therefore total volume of concrete required for blinding = 104.4m x0.1m x0.675m = 7.1 cubic metres Now divide 7.1cubic metres by the sum ratio which is 7, 7.1/7= 1.01 Taking a constant, the volume of a bag of cement is 0.035 cubic metres , Divide 1.01/ 0.035 = 29bags of cement is needed for blinding a plot of land. One bag of cement is 2,700 naira, Cost of cement is 2,700 naira x 29 = 78,300 naira. For the sand required multiply 1.01 by 2 to know the volume since the ratio is 1:2:4 Therefore volume of sand required is = 1.01x2 = 2.02 cubic metres. If we take the volume of a tipper as 3.8cubic metres then 2.02/3.8 = 1/2trip of 5tonnes tipper of sand, if one trip of sharp sand cost 15,000 naira then 1/2trip is 7,500 naira. For the granite use the same ratio of 1bag of cement to 4 headpans of sand to 8headpans of granite. Granite required is , multiply 1.01 by 4 = 4.04 cubic metres , to know the volume since it is in the ratio of 1:2:4 Volume of granite required = 4.04 / 3.8 = 1.07 That is one and half trips(11/2) of granite of 5tonnes tipper. If one trip of 5tonnes of granite cost 30,000 naira then one and half trips will cost 45,000naira. The labour cost for blinding varies but majorly it is 800naira per bag of cement and we have 29bags of cement , labour cost is =800 x29= 23,200 naira. Total cost for blinding is 78,300+ 7,500 + 45,000 + 23,200 = 154,000 naira only.
4. Block Laying: Laying of blocks is the next thing to do after you must have finish placing the concrete (blinding). Most house owners ask this question, how many blocks do I need to get my fence/building completed? We will be calculating the number of blocks that we are going to use to fence our plot 18 x36m(60 x120ft). Let us have these in mind; i) The length of a block is 0.45m or 450mm or 18inches ii) The width of thickness varies - 150mm or 6inches and 225mm or 9inches which are commonly used. iii) Taking for a general or average purpose the blocks laid from foundation of a fence to the top is 12coaches/courses(2coaches will be buried while 10coaches will be visible) Now with these parameters, let's calculate the number of blocks needed for a 18 x36m plot of land. Recall our total length to be 104.4metres Divide the total length by 0.45m(length of a block) to know the numbers of blocks needed for one coach/level/course of block. 104.4m/0.45m = 232 blocks Therefore 232blocks is needed for one coach/level/course. Remember we have 12coaches of blocks for a fence , then multiply the number of blocks for each coach above by 12 = 232 x12 =2784blocks. We will also need some blocks for the columns(pillars) , the spacing for the columns will be at 2700mm=2.7metres We will divide the total length (104.4m)by the column spacing (2.7m)to get the number of columns 104.4/2.7 = 39columns There are 39 columns in a plot of 18m x36m, each column will take 1 block x 12coaches = 12 blocks for one column Number of blocks for 39columns is 39 x12 = 468blocks. Total number of blocks needed to fence a plot = 2784 +468= 3,252blocks +325(10% waste ) = 3577 blocks A block sells for an average of 200naira Cost of blocks is 3577 blocks x 200= 715,400naira Cement needed is 3577 blocks divided by 50 3577/50= 72 bags of cement @ 2,700 naira Per one = 194,400 naira Cost of 72bags of cement is 194,400naira For the sand required, 1 ton of sand will lay 120blocks, 3577blocks will need 30tonnes of sharp sand 1tonne of sharp sand is 3,000 naira 30 tonnes will cost = 90,000 naira only Labour cost for laying a block is 60naira per block. Cost of laying 3577blocks is 3577x60= 214,620naira Total cost for block work =715,400 + 194,400 + 90,000 + 214,620= 1,214,420 naira.
5. Gate : Get a gate to protect your property, cost of gate ranges from 100,000-1,000,000 naira only. We also need to do the columns(two of them) that would hold the gate. We need reinforcements, about 6lengths will do and they cost 3,000 each = 18,000 naira We need 10nos of wood (1x12) and they cost 900 naira each= 9,000 We need 4bags of cement for the concrete of the columns = 2,700 x 4 = 10,800naira Labour for reinforcements is 15,000 naira and labour for carpentry is 15,000naira Labour for pouring the concrete is 3,000naira Total cost for gate is 100,000 + 18,000 + 9,000 + 10,800 + 15,000 +15,000 + 3,000 = 170,800naira .
The Total cost for Fencing a standard plot of 18m x36m(60ft x120ft) is=Cost of Site clearing +Cost of Excavation + Cost of Blinding + Cost of Blocklaying + Cost of Gate and columns[pillars] = 30,000 naira + 32,250naira + 154,000 naira +1,214,420 naira + 170,800naira = 1,601,470naira .
The Total cost for Fencing a standard plot of land 18m x36m(60 x 120ft) on a dry land with 12coaches/courses is 1,601,470 naira only but can be reduced by reducing the number of coaches of blocks .
The Materials we just calculated for Fencing a plot is applicable on dry lands only but will differ when the plot is waterlogged, when the height of the fence is reduced, when the land is sloppy etc.
Very formative and detailed write up, many thanks for your contribution to this elusive and critical stage in building construction .
However, I would suggest people see this as a guide in pricing and budgeting for the fencing of their property and not a "DIY" ticket ( Do it yourself) as fencing is a critical aspect or milestone in the building stage that needs not to be handled with levity but rather that should be handle by professionals and the. Commensurate professional or service fees paid accordingly
kopell: My brother you are one of the lucky ones. Those same stock you are talking about, I have some of them back when they were less than N1 then. Around that period of time you mention, I and my of my friends invested some good money in it. Many of them as we speak today became worthless paper. I can see you posted some of GT receipt, GT was not that bad. I remember when First Bank thumbled, all I saw was a decrease in value and increase of share numbers. One thing I can't not really understand is the recent system of linking Bank accounts to dividends, it has not been successful for me. Even when I instructed my account manger to link some of the dividends to my account. I do not have the luxury to go to those registrar office that scatter all over when I came around because of my limited time, to consolidate the accounts. I have not received any dividend in the last 14 years. I hope I have time one day to go and consolidate all those dividends to see if they have not turned into worthless paper again.
Find time when you are back to engage the services of a stock booking firm ,your dividend payments issues will be sorted out by them into one consolidated account
Is block the only component in a house? The cheapest component in building is the block works and yet it occupied the most space so if you think you have made great saving doing your block calculation yourself. Then be prepare to pay more because the artisans (bricklayer, painter, electrician etc will milk you) when you start wall plastering and floor screed, because I bet you can't do those calculation yourself. Are you go8ng to do the calculation for roof carcass (timber), roofing sheet, paint and electrictical material yourself.
Please be guided a lot is involve in putting up a building even for a small 2 -3 bedroom bungalow. If you skip the service of a Quantity surveyor you will save little money but end up spending it on material cos it's either you under buy and have to spend extra on transport When you have to buy the quantity left or you buy far more than is required. Then by the time you add up all this little extras it will be far more than what you will have paid a QS to do a proper Bill of quantities (BOQ) or material schedule for you.
Be wise and not be penny wise pound foolish
Thank you for your flaccid contribution, I believe the essence of this thread is to serve as a guide or guesstimates for potential home owners to cost every stage of the building activities.
As for the calculation of woods for roofing,plastering of Walls et al, there are numerous threads on these discourse to guide potential home builders so as not to fall prey to Hawks and hyenas QS and developers/builders
BECALMBECALM: Thanks to everyone.Aside from the above mentioned places , are there other places one can get good apartment? How is the cost of living generally?
Please keep to those area mentioned for accommodation for you to enjoy life to the fullest, those areas are like the ikeja, Victoria island, suruleres of Lagos
Another area of suggestions would be Taiwo Area, Tanke',Sango low cost ,Gra,
BECALMBECALM: Thanks to everyone.Aside from the above mentioned places , are there other places one can get good apartment? How is the cost of living generally?
Cost of living is relatively cheaply, especially food items.
Baba EgunMogaji I hail o Can these artisans work in Lagos?
From experience they can work in Lagos ,but just be nice to provide accommodation and small chops , then every Friday allow them travel back to Ibadan to be with their families.
BECALMBECALM: My good people, please if you know ilorin or stay at ilorin I sincerely need your suggestion.I am relocating my family to ilorin.I need you guys to help me answer the followings questions :1.The best area to rent an apartment.A place that is well secured with steady power supply.2.I need a very good private school for my two kids(both are in nursery school). 3.How much can i get one or two bedroom flat in ilorin. 4. Is ilorin safe to keep my family? Is there anything like crisis and religious riot? Peace and God's blessings to everyone.Thank you
1.ilorin is safe rarely hear or see religious crisis
2.For a good place to stay ,confine your seach to GRA,Kwara hotel axis and government house axis
3. Sa at the time I stayed in Ilorin these places have good power supply back then 2007-2008
4. Religious tolerance is far better than most state
Above all be very attentive to situations around your locale as no where seems safe in this country
Quantity Surveyor is the most useless profession in small self builds.
I encourage no one waste their money on such nonsense.
The cost to hire a quantity surveyor can be used towards the project.
PS: I’ll be waiting for the associate members of Nairaland QS to respond with their typical hunger induced vitriol
Very true narrative, in trying periods of economic downturn I should expect professionals to be compassionate with their pricing and see how they can assist clients to achieve their home building goals rather we see some of the acting like Hawks waiting to snatch the chicks from the mother hen
Appreciate your input to this discourse sir, one bottle of origin and cow tail pepper soup to cool down deflect the supposed attack from the NL QS.
fash78: Hello house. I am not sure if this question has been asked before and answered. What is a fair percentage of the rent a lawyer or property manager is entitled to? I am renting a unit for 1M and a lawyer I want to hire to manage the property is asking for 10% of that. Is that what is the going rate in Lagos? I welcome contributions from the house.
If He is managing your properties that is collecting rent on your behalf from your tenants if you are not in the country a small percentage of the rents payable should be paid to him as comics ion or fees but not as high as 10%
But if he is to do the agreement for tennats for your apartments he will be paid legal fees which is 5% and that should not come from your pocket , if he insist tell him to Bleep off and get credible estate agents and valuers to assist you they do even charge more than 5% from he tenants in most cases.
Judecapon73: the cost of aluminium door with haco board depend on the size of your door
Why not give prices based on expected door dimensions so that potential customers will be well informed, you seem to have a very nice and neat arrays of toilet doors displayed in that picture, so please be open about you pricing to increase your bottom-line,
fiizznation: Showcase of Illiteracy at it's zenith. So only hausa/fulani people rear cows in Nigeria? And besides who told you the cows you are posting here are of the same breed with the ones that fulanis rear in Nigeria and other parts of w/Africa.
Smh..Reason(s) I seldom visit this forum is because one usually have to come across so many illiterates who think they know _shit
See your life outside Mr literate I wonder how your gumption operates , so the breed of cattle should be a yardstick for operating a ranches in Nigeria
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PierreDeFermath: this guy just wants to be famous and probably wants to scam people. he's the same guy on the news the other time with his girlfriend and the we guy wearing designers and still claiming babalawo
Well all I can see is the indoctrination of a "yahoo Cadet" into the Yahoo hall of fame.
Good luck to them, in sane clime the security agencies will put machineries in place to arrest these "Scammers"
But one requires constant power supply, in a country with inconsistent power supply My issue with solar is wet season, dont if it have any implication on its supply
Even in wet season solar panels still store electrical charges, though output may not be same as during the dry season,I believe the power rating of the pressure pump will not be much
No stanchion, it’ll be directly placed on it. I’ve decided against elevated water tanks on my property for safety and will use pressure pump instead. There will be other tanks around the compound like this also.
You can set up a small solar power system for your pump so you don’t need NEPA.
Right way to go ,save cost and at the same proactively taking steps to safeguard lives
You don't need to fight fulani herdsmen. Just combine and spray the following chemicals on your farm: Atrazine, Chlorpyrifos, Metolachlor,
And leave the rest for the gods.
This chemicals are classified most dangerous farm chemical for pest, insect and weed control. Spray the chemicals on stem and leaves, you can combine them for effective output. Any cow that eats your crops dies. No veterinary doctor can save such cow.
Any herdsman who graze his cow on your farm is a wicked persons and his cows deserves to die.
So if you spray these poisonous chemicals on the crop and in errors an innocent person eats of the crop instead of the cows then what would you say you have achieved by brining up this pointless ideas to solve the problem on ground,please be scientific and tact in your thoughts next time
Everyone knows this is a SCRIPT being played out with the producer as daddy freeze in order to defame the men of God.
Why is it during daddy freeze mental touch reign that we hearing about it.
I wonder how much will be given to the ex footballer.
I wonder what old men gain from becoming relevant.
This story has been in the news for over 2-3 years plus, from what I read I think one of his close friend and confidant was part of those that lured him into this oil deal ,only to realise later that it was all a scam, he fought hard to see that those involve are brought to book but to no avail, like it's aid "Na who whole money na him get mouth for Nigeria"
Leetunechi: I met a female soldier online. We quarreled and I even insulted her, but now we have settled. Guess wot? She asked me to visit her at her barracks. I can't wait to meet her.
Are you serious . Very surprise at your comment above, Nigeria is one of the safest country in the world,have you been to. Afganistan,Syria then you will know. What am talking about
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Good Morning sir, sorry for just responding, It is possible to install polystyrene parapet on it without touching the main roof, the main challenge is that a carpenter will need to remove the wood eaves around the build with the aluminium cladding. Also we would have to take measurement of the eaves to determine the size of parapet that will be used as the roof eaves dimensions might not go with a standard dimension. I would have suggested a 300 x 300 roof eaves for this bungalow but I think the roof eaves might be more than 300 width. Attached is a building that has parapet installed on it after roofing, what we only did was to give them the dimension of the parapet width. Polystyrene parapet fixed on building that has roof beam casted with it is always more stronger and more durable than the ones fixed on the building without roof beam casted with it.
Nice to see this is doable, just believed there would be complications due to the fact that the roof has been installed before thinking of parapet installation. Thanks for the explanation as an expert in " Parapetology".
Okay, thank you. I suppose he won't consider going as far as Sango Ota?
That N150k is on the high side, scout around your locale you may be lucky to get some one to do it for less than 80k, if not try and speak with the man that resides in Abeokuta and see if you could agree a good price then add something extra for the trip to an aAbeokuta to execute. The job depending on th number of days he will take to accomplish the task.
Also ensure verification and standards of previous jobs by the man.wish you good luck the expected cash savings from the N150k you make can pay school fees for "Jeki lie sinmi"babies-kindergarten