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rapture_ready: So where was Sango's mighty voice when Yahweh's missionaries came into yorubaland and tore down his shrines?

Him been get cough?

Guy open you eye to reality O! Abeg O!!

Why is your church using lightening rod?

Why cant you ask it to seize functioning in your body system? You dodged my questions to ask me this? Guy...you have only what you own.

Because we know Sango is only an archaic myth and lightning is just electrical arc discharge between a negatively charged atmosphere and a positively charged earth?

Tell us how Sango is a myth. Back it up with reasonable evidence. Correlate it Oriki (praise) with science.... Speculating here with words cant hold ground.

Again, I ask you, where was his mighty wrath when his shrines were torn down? How difficult is it to fry a few missionaries with lightning?

Lol.

You use what you have when you need it. What you have will always be either you use it or not.

Yahweh was defeated by foot soldiers. His children were killed in millions by Hitler. What is yahweh looking at when this people are killing his children? More than 50% israeli jew do not believe in Yahweh....95% do not believe in Jesus. Why is yahweh reluctant to this defeat?

And the BS jew neglect is what a mental slave from africa embrace.

rapture_ready: You read Judges 2:20-23

And you shifting the post....deal with what is before you. Yahweh was defeated by foot soldiers...period.

I know what Sango is...

An old yoruba myth told to scare little kids into behaving...

Ignorance is a disease. False knowledge is death.

Sango is not and never a myth.

Except I studied electrical-electronics engineering for 5 years...

And Sango a spiritual term which translate to Electrical charge in scientific sense is myth? What is the manifestation of Yahweh. Years you studied Elect in school is not the itch here.

And you can't even speak correct english.

what matters is understanding what am passing through. The average chinese am working with cant speak english. The foreign language you speak is an evidence that you are oppressed.

Like fela said on colonial mentality....common german man speaks his language. What belongs to you is discriminated in schools and social gathering. If you cant understand me, I'm sorry....i cant help.

Only if you knew that both spirituality and religion differ from the urban myth you are selling...

Paganism is founded on spirituality. This is not christinsanity.

Jesus is also called "emmanuel" in the bible. What does that one mean?

Hail Artemis?

Jesus mean 'hail zeus'. You cant refute that. You have been deceived for age.

Jesus was nowhere called Emmanuel. No one, not even his parents, call him Immanuel at any point in the bible. Lie

Emmanuel mean 'El with us'. El is a canaanite God. Yahweh is one of the children of El. So whoever is Emmanuel does not have anything to do with Yahweh. #koo

Nahum777: The Sub -Saharan region is often referred to as Black Africa, in reference to its numerous black populations. However, geographers historically divided the region into several distinct ethnographic sections based on each area's respective inhabitants.

Like i said earlier, Israelites are black people, but not all blacks are Israelites, which makes your Sub-Saharan question invalid...

blacks once populated chinese in the past. Go and read your history textbook again.

There are black chinese today but very few. Same way thick black skinned folks are scares in sub-saharan.

Israeli jew hates black...they are racist

am not Israeli jew....so you should know how you not making sense

Rapture Ready....I got an eye opening article for you. It titled 'SANGO IS POWERFUL THAN YAHWEH'.

Guy....sango is not powerful as you said. Why are you protecting your house from lightening? You should have not protect it so that you burn down with his wrath.

Why is your church and vatican using lightening rod? Lol.

When Sango voice, everything on earth bow. What form of manifestation is Yahweh possessed with?

Ishilove: Lobatan. Folake ti gbe tie wa...

maami....emi na ko.

macof: Folykaze is extremely correct

Have u heard Italians and Spaniards call Jesus....it's always "E-zus" In Greek it's "Ie-zus" hail zeus! The king of the Gods

The latin-greek word 'Jesus' = Je-Zeus (hey-zoos).
Zeus or dios is the Greek Sun God, hence "Sun"day worship. Coincidence? Na.

The days of the week are named after Gods.... Today is thursday....thanks to almighty thor.
Most of the Jew do not believe in any Jesus....but a brainwashed African can.

The same bible they are reading said each people shall walk in the name of their clan Gods. But rapture-guy who want to fly like a superman to the sky leave what belong to him for roman government invention

Nahum777: This nigga is spewing shit, you are a confused soul, whats with the mother nature, mother nature trash. I never said all blacks are Israelites, and to correct your insanity we are not talking about the jewish converts and the Israelis. Jew and jewish, Israelites and Israeli, two different things. Now you can be black and not be an Isrealite, Ethiopians, Somalians, Egyptians are not Israelites, i bet you dont know why there are whites in Egypt but to cut the long story short, you get your fathers linage, even a white man can be an Israelite as long as his father is an Israelite.. Stop saying rubbish, how many black chinese do you know?

How many blacks are in the sub-saharan?

macof: In my understanding good and evil don't really exist.

All is same force being projected in different ways such that the human consciousness decides against one and accepts the other.

It's not God dat determines wat is good for us, it is US that determines it.

in ur village, Kissing outside might be an evil act while in another kissing outside is good.

Black cats could be evil while in another village black cats bring goodluck.

Killing of twins was evil in major pre-colonial African nations but it wasn't in calabar.

The messed up thing is that when humans make laws they tend to claim their God made it.

Gbam.

Ooman....welcome back on board

rapture_ready: No it isn't.

God defeated them all, which shows he is the bigger God, so he gets to keep the big "G".





That just means you gat natin 2 say...

F.L.O.O.R.E.D.

Hehehehehe

Only if you know that yahweh is the god of the hills. Lol

Do you want me to show you where he is referred to as 'god' in the bible?

rapture_ready: Yes.

Except Israel's God's missionaries came to our shores, tore down the shrines of our gods, destroyed their alters and abolished their worship - and our gods stood by and did absolutely nothing!

Your God was defeated in Judge 1:19. By ordinary men.

Where was Sango's fabled thunderbolts, or amadioha's mighty wrath etc.?

Do you even know what Sango is? Let me enlighten you. Sango the divinity of lightening is a powerful electric charge that cause thunder. Maybe you are in another planet and doesn't know the benefit of lightening.

• Lightning, as best modern science understand, is a channel of electrical charge. (the personified Sango is electrical charge)

• Thunder is a direct result of lightning. (the effect of Sango)

• Lightning can have 100 million to 1 billion volts, and contains billions of watts.

• The earth benefits from lightning in several ways. First, lightning helps the Earth maintain electrical balance. The Earth is recharged by thunderstorms. The Earth's surface and the atmosphere conduct electricity easily. Thunderstorms help transfer the negative charges back to Earth (lightning is generally negatively charged). Without thunderstorms and lightning, the earth-atmosphere electrical balance would disappear in 5 minutes. Lightning also makes ozone-producing chemicals. (can Yahweh perform like this? Sango balance planet earth from been lost in the space.)

• One benefit of electricity to the human body that most people aren't aware of is stimulation of bone density/growth. Electrical current is involved in the function of all the nerves of the body. (Sango make you alive today. You can stop the electric pulse in your system so that your heart stop beating....also your brain can have electric shock so that you begin early epilepsy.)

Only if you know that spirituality is different from religion. Yahweh is the god of the hills.... Nature force or Deities are needed to manifest and manipulated for the benefit of nature.

We were not brainwashed, we only chose to side with the greater power...

*dancing*

Jesus power, super power
Jesus power, super power...

You were not brainwashed? Dont even bring that.

Only if you christian knows that Jesus....Iesous mean 'Hail Zeus'. Lol

Amanfrommars.....morning.

texanomaly: I keep hearing that. Why did they kill twins?

I think Alfa debunked this as hoax to demonize Igbo society in a thread.

The same way we were told that those living in Abakaliki eat human. This and the killing of twins are rumors and pure fabrication. Only if the sons of the land can promote their culture in a colorful way instead of been concerned about American and European life, this rumor wont spread like fire.

Like Fela said....99.99% of what they say about Africa are wrong.

mumumugu: your ancestors taught me to kill twins
i dont want to learn that

False knowledge is worse than ignorance. This guy is real mumu.

Twins are respected than a single child. They are Orisa as Yoruba people believe.

Where do you get your information that Yoruba people kill twins? Is Yoruba now dem dem? Hmmm

She need me around. I cant betray my words.....I will come back and check your inputs on Igbo Spirituality and your opinion on Dr. James Watson degrading of Africans. Till then.....she got me

Onyechi Martian. Whatever that mean.

My gf is an Igbo gal....a catholic for that matter. You know I asked you to inform me about your spirituality so that she wont give me fable? Anyway, I took over as a sharp guy.

Yoruba pagans aint like me? I didn't claim anywhere to be anybody. I am me.

Not hating you.....I learnt to eat words and thoughts not stupidity. When you give me shiite, I split it on your face.

Cheers

aManFromMars: Doofus, most atheists here still respect tradition. We just do not subscribe to what they believed, especially the African BiophysioChemistry you try to peddle here.

Goon! How does this address any of my point? The jewish atheist I read about are culturally oriented. They aint displaying their ancestors as dumb folks. Same apply to buddhist atheist who are colourful with their cultural identity. How does this relate the the silly straw you are holding on?

Show me the link where a Jewish atheist write something about Chi or any Igbo form of Spirituality. Show me the link where Atheist from Japan go around defending Amahodia. But oafish person like you can defend buddhism and hinduism. You went further showing us how buddhism is a philosophy so you can embrace it because some white men paint it as gold. The Asian practice buddhism as religion including it devas, superstitions, temple, rituals, meditation, devotion, pilgrimage and writing of a sacred book. How can a sensible person attribute these features as a philosophical ground? This show the level of your stupidity.

The other time I asked you to tell me about Chi.....do you complied? You cant comply because you dont know. You still go around foolishly thinking Amadioha is a monster....so you think you wise and can embrace the devas in buddhism. Jewish atheists are giving naturalitic explanation to God. The Japanese are wise enough to hold unto what belong to them.......but a foolish Igbo atheist stamped on what belong to him. Anyway you agree your ancestors can make anything than folklores....so why would I take person that has disconnected away from his ancestral heritage serious?

aManFromMars: I see you've still not worked on your inferiority complex. Maybe, you also do not accept that the first humans lived in Africa.

Dont even try to cover up my point mumuni. Evolution have explained race and intelligence. Same evolution which you stick to said your whole ancestors and people have lowest intelligence among human race.

Read as it makes you climb your mountain (ignorance and slaverish stupidity) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence and http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/10/18/dna-discoverer-blacks-less-intelligent-than-whites/

They said your ancestors and people are less intelligent. Go and deal with that.

Can you give me physical evidence of Evolution? And instead of quoting what some white men wrote, can you tell us if there is any.....traces of evolution as said by your ancestors. Or are they still dumb as you said?

aManFromMars: Free yourself from your dead ancestors.

My ancestors live in me, I live in them. That is why I have DNA trait. I am not a self made bastard son of a thousand father.

My ancestors aint dead. " when you think you die, you're not dead. Its a transition.". Your own ancestors can be dead. Mine are not.


Walking out and singing Fela song 'Teacher Dont Teach me Nonsense'


*I must se-fa pass
Da go for France
YES SIR/YES MAAM (*after each line)
England
Italy
Germany
Na dem culture
For der'
Be teacher
For dem

Go China
Russia
Korea
VietNam
Na dem culture
For der'
Be teacher
For dem

Go Syria
Jordan
Iran
Iraq
Na dem culture
For der'
Be teacher
For dem

Let us face ourselves for Afrika
Na de matter of Afrika
This part-ee of my song
Na all the problems of this world
In we dey carry, for Afrika
Wey no go ask-ee me
WHICH ONE? (*after each line)
Problems of inflation
Problems of corruption
Of mismanagement
Stealing by government
Nothing we dey carry (we are also against our identity....we put white man before us)
All over Afrika
Na de latest one
Na him dey make me laugh
AUSTERITY (*after each line)
Austeri-
Austeri-
Na him dey latest one
Na him dey make me laugh
Why I dey laugh?
Man no fit cry?
Who be our teacher na Oyinbo
Who be our teacher na Oyinbo

Logicboy03: Everyone has something to offer........

Our traditions taught us to respect elders and other stuff but I will never accept your bulletproof juju as real...sorry

How does this relate with my point?

Colonian mentality is making logicboy victim of new generational slavery.

The same american write you as animal. There media show you as ape-like man. But you are here loosing your identity for white man. You change your skin color so that you be like them. The chinese friends I got are walking with their identity. The jewish atheist aint stupid like African atheist because they promote what belong to them.

When are you going to speak about Oborowe or you dont know what that is?


Singing fela - why African dey suffer

Why Blackman dey suffer today
Why Blackman no get money today
Why Blackman no go for moon today
This is the reason why (tell me now; tell me again)
We dey sit down for our land jeje
We dey mind our business jeje
Some people come from far away land
Dem fight us and take our land
Dem take our people and spoil our towns
Na since then trouble starti o (hun, hun; one more time)
Our riches dem take away to their land
In return dem give us their colony
Dem take our culture away from us
Dem give us dem culture we no understand
Black people we no know ourselves
We no know our ancestral heritage
We dey fight each other everyday
We’re never together; we’re never together at all
That is why Blackman dey suffer today

Nahum777: yea, and your nature is nothing to write home about. You know nothing about your ancestors. Nobody gat time to be arguing with you mehn, it will be a waste of time. Keep living your heathen life. Maybe you should check up what visage means. The verse i gave you is talking about a black nation which is Isael, maybe all chinese are blacks smh.

Thanks to Mother Nature who gave me chance of existence. Who put both me and Yahweh (spirit of the hills) in her belly. I even have chance to stand on mounts ( yahweh head). I WILL BLESS THEE EVER MOTHER NATURE. The woman who nurtur her children with amazing experience and justice. You are great Mother Nature.

And the foolish slave is telling me I know nothing about my ancestors as if I get anything in relation with Israeli Jew. The same Israeli jew that hate me for my skin color. The foolish man will be bless by nature and will travel to Israel and worship ruins of wall. Kaballah is for the jew not me. Yet a foolish man which special party was set on his naming ceremony is here telling us how is a son of thousands father. Wetin concern African with Israeli Jew? The Israeli Jew are running away from this Yahweh but the slowpoke and foolish slave hugging it.

Lol. His God who reside in Mount Sinai but leave his impoverish nature to suffer in Nigeria. Now he is short of argument....were you not the one begging me to accept your hill god?

Also the foolish mumuni and classical Arsshole think the whole Africans are black....he want to use the argument for chinese populace. Go and read history son. You have lost your identity. The Africans in sub-saharan region are brown in skin....more like the Arab men. Blacks in china are chinese with black skin. Go and read history mumuni. Lol

Atheism - Especially the professionals 'bark at' set. They never see anything good back home. They always want to live like Americans and Europeans who enslaved their ancestors. They are quick to call their ancestors dump folks. Hardly can you see them arguing without reference to white men who have changed his own history and identity. They accept Evolution but cant see the Intelligence inferiority evolution portray about blacks.

Christianity - This only applies to the extremist and fanatics. Foolishness starts when a person connect his History with Israel. They curse their ancestors and flow with the current cooked fantasy by jewish teachers. How can African claim to be the heir of Abraham? Another set claimed life start from middle east. They bond their ancestors, brothers and sisters to hell because they dont believe in Jesus (hail zeus). The ideology of hating your family for taking different doctrine. Hmmm

Islam - What more can I say about person that admit he is a slave? This madness covers the whole Nigeria. Hausa history has been eradicated and replaced with Arab proportion. The Yoruba among them are now claiming they are from mecca. The bloodiness, discrimination against women (they are first class animal). In the same land, they curse their ancestors and lost their identity.

In fela voice : when are we going to free from every form of slavery?

The three listed religion and secular movement is a Kolonial Mentality


Moving out with Fela - Why Black Man Dey Suffer

Why Blackman dey suffer today
Why Blackman no get money today
Why Blackman no go for moon today
This is the reason why (tell me now; tell me again)
We dey sit down for our land jeje
We dey mind our business jeje
Some people come from far away land
Dem fight us and take our land
Dem take our people and spoil our towns
Na since then trouble starti o (hun, hun; one more time)
Our riches dem take away to their land
In return dem give us their colony
Dem take our culture away from us
Dem give us dem culture we no understand
Black people we no know ourselves
We no know our ancestral heritage
We dey fight each other everyday
We’re never together; we’re never together at all
That is why Blackman dey suffer today

Am still searching for physical evidence for evolution. I'm sorry, I cant find any for now

Nahum777: Your Ancestors worshipped God.

"Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick." (Lamentations 4:8 ).

God has alot to offer you @Folykaze, u are a heathen but God is ready to accept your gaddem behind. follow the footsteps of your ancestors, worship God...

My ancestors are naturalistic pantieist.....if you know what that mean.

Fela- black man cry.......this foolish man is quoting bible as if blacks are only African. Haven't you heard of chinese black? Mumu.

I dont believe in God. And if by mentioning God you mean Nature and mother Earth....am really blessed by her. Thanks to the God....NATURE. You can go on with your colonial mentality....worshipping the god of the hills. Nature is in me, I am in Nature. Thanks

Logicboy03: We can learn from the foriegners, don't you think?


Oh, wait, you prefer your local ignorance dressed up as Yoruba advanced sciences

listening to fela song titled 'why black man dey suffer'.... Tears cant stop rolling reading this from logicboy.

Learn from your ancestors mumuni.

The west got nothing to offer you.

Oga Ade. This is Nigeria. Go and create dollarland domain abeg

I missed my childhood days.....festival like this is not common in Ondo state again. We only have Ogun, Oro and Egungun. I love those costumes

[size=28pt]ORÍKÌ SANGO[/size]

Oko ibéji eletimo, ojú eri eri ó là orun garara.

O sa ogiri eke nigbeigbe Egun toto bitan li awa yi odo fun.

Omi li eba iná li arin Orun, Olowo mi edun kan soso li o fi pa enia mefa.

Ori Ose li o gun lo, afi enia ti Soponnon eleran ekun to o gbopa.

Ekun Baba Timi, Orun funfun bi aje.

Oni laba jinijini ala a li ase atata bi okunrin a dugbe ekun oke.

Agbangba li ojú agada o gbe iná wo ile eke.

Shere Ajase Ose Orobondo.

Ki fi ojú bo orule ki o duro iná wonu ekun, nitori ayibamo eje ki awa jo se.

Oba tete li o le ale bi osu pa – eni, pa – eni, mo ni li ale. Ase.



Translation
[size=28pt](Praising the Spirit of Lightning)[/size]

Guardian of twins, Master of knowledge, brilliant eye, He splits the skies.

He splits the lira’s wall superbly, masker from the other world, we roll out the mortar and use it as a throne.

Water by the side of fire in the middle of the sky. Spirit who kills six with a thunder stone.

He mounts the head of Ose and goes, strong person, spotted leopard, like the Spirit of Infectious disease.

Leopard Father of the Chief of Ede, white sky, sign of richness.

Owner of the thunder bag, owner of the bad filled with power, seasoned warrior.

Storm on the edge of the knife, He carries fire on his head into the house.

Victorious Shere, Superlative Ose.

Flash of a leopard’s eye can set a roof on fire, against the unknown let us do things together.

Swift King, appearing like the evening moon, I have an assassin as a lover. May it be so.


source : Awo Falokun

There is more to this letter. OBJ is sending a signal to GEJ to sit tightly because that chair would be removed either by coup or impeachment.

The game has changed hands

PAGAN 9JA:
No I dont know about these leaves. I only know about Hausa religion.

If not for you, I have never heard of Hausa religion. A gal once told me about a masqurade festival in a village I cant remember it name very close to Kaduna. She knows close to nothing about it though.

Have aways thought Hausa are all about Islam. Good to know this man.

hunter2,1:
i fear that a time would come when nigeria would start to import mordernised IFA from brazil.

Falokun Fatunmbi (David Wilson) is a white North American who has written many books about African Spirituality. He lodged his scientifical knowledge into Yoruba spirituality and unveiled Naturalistic Creation Hypothesis of Yoruba Spirituality. The only thing we know here at home is Obatala getting drunk and Oduduwa carrying calabash containi pigeon and soil. And these are symbolic language which explain big bang. You can check out his books on Amazon. He explained the naturalistic sides of each deities drawing his argument with western science relativeness which can guild new discovery and technological revolution in Africa.

Adam Peretz is a jewish-american who later become an Ifa priest. He was renamed Fagbemijo Amosun Fakayode and he also founded the Oyeku Ofun Temple in Santa Rosa, California in April 2011. There are many other non-Yoruba Ifa priests all over the world today who are promoting the Yoruba heritage, while we Yorubas see our way of life as evil.

So I wont be suprised if the brazillians import IFA back to Africa.

I'm sorry....you are not making any sense.

Jazzgreen: my bible said STUBBORN ANGELS aka demons were chased down from heaven, Yorubas said ODUDUWA fell from heaven, hmmmm, hope something is not similar here

People are mixing the spiritual and historical dimension of Oduduwa up.

Dark Energy was what the Yoruba people personalified as Oduduwa. If you could remember in the creation story, Obatala got drunk and Oduduwa took up his task from where he stopped.

- Obatala (deity of white clothes or light) here is the light particle which modern science said it kickstart how the universe came about. This is the major reason Obatala is said to be omnipresent because light spread to the end of the universe which produces space and time. The drunk state Obatala was represent the cooling state of those light particles.

- Oduduwa in the creation hypothesis took over the creation task from Obatala. This implies that the original explosion that created the universe produced massive quantities of light in the form of subatomic particles. As the universe cooled these particles joined together to form simple elements. The elements in turned joined together to form stars. In time, certain stars collapsed, forming black holes that imploded on themselves until they created a fission reaction. This sent huge clouds of complex elements throughout the universe. It was a cloud of complex elements that cooled to form the solor system, and within the solor system evolved the ecosystem that exists in earth. Oduduwa in the spiritual sense is the dark energy.

Western science teaches that all of Creation evolved from the light produced during the primal explosion at the beginning of time. Yoruba teaches that all Creation evolved from the White Cloth of Obatala.....a robe.
The chain used by Obatala to travel from the Realm of the Ancestors to Earth appears to be a symbolic representation of the structure used to transmit genetic information from one generation to the next. The genetic code that is used to form each species is passed through a biochemical substance called DNA. When DNA is viewed under a microscope it appears as a double helix, which is similar to the pattern of a chain.

Symbolic language are used to describe a series of evolutionary events that match closely with the theories of Creation that have been proposed by contemporary Western science. So you should be very careful when handling character in Yoruba spirituality.

Also in the Historical account of Oduduwa, Yoruba people were saying Oduduwa came from heaven which implies that the account provided by the Igodomigodo (bini) that the last Ogiso (king from the sky) son was the person who the yoruba people called Oduduwa.

- Ogiso means king from the sky. So they aint wrong and this got nothing to do with the story in the bible.

- Oduduwa was from the east as believed. Benin is in the east of Ife today.

Get your fact straight man.....when you forget your history, then you are worse than animal. Cheers

mikeapollo: Please, keep quiet if you dont lnow Yoruba history.. The Ooni is far far ahead of Alaafin. Hostorically and culturally, several Yoruba tradtional rulers were originally far senior and ahead of Alaafin.

Alaafin was only given more prominence and relevance by the British colonial masters because Oyo had the strongest military might among the Yoruba at the tme coupled with well organised administration....

Oyo Kingdom was established by Oranmiyan, who left Ife to Benin, and later to Oyo. Even after he died....Oranmiyan's corpse was returned to Ife for burial and his mystical staff(Opa Oranmiyan) still stands in Ife till date.

Alaafin's re;evance is a creation of politics....Ooni is the spiritual leader and numero-uno among the Yoruba Obas.

I believe Ife was the spiritual base of Yoruba people while Oyo was the political and military base. Both are holding a great position in Yoruba history. This arguments on superiority is meaningless

niyiadewoy: Oga op or moderator.please edit your post. Traditional kings. Oba and chiefs are not addressed as 'Mr' as u have consistently used in or write-up to describe the OONIRISA .please amend unless there us no respect for culture and heritage where u are from.

I'm sorry sir. As you can see, I culled the report from a news site. Everything in the OP were directly from premiumtimeng which I didn't tempered or manipulated. We got respects from where I hailed from. The correction should be done on the original source. Thanks