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Fela - Amen

John Lennon - Imagine

Joan Osborne - What if God was one of us

XTC - Dear God


Those and many others on my playlist make me hate organise religion

Even though from what i learnt from babalawo here that there are verses in the Otua Odu on Islam; verses on Christianity in Odu Oturupon and as well as Odu verses on Eleiye exactly the way patakis of Eegun are in Otuuuupon meji while Sango is in Okanran meji. I was asking him if other religion are false and Ifa is truth, why are most Africans follow this religions today? He told me that there are stream, purpose and time for everything. He went farther into gun, slavery and African civilization again. He said there is nothing good or bad, everybody do according to what they think is best. Bi ori ti yan niyen.

There is this Oro song which explain religion tolerance and Yoruba spirituality. I believe we need to treat everybody as family. It not necessary they worship your God. Just continue showing the light.....they might walk through the path.

I will try to gather more info about those Odu and it meaning from the baba only if he will tell me cuz the man hardly tell me stuff like that. Cheers

emotional: @FOLYKAZE/MACOF.
Is like d concept of Orunmila by (MOST) Edos(binis) is either 1.adulterated 2.is a different Orunmila(there is only one I supposed) 3.or is just a scam.
From my findings so far(mostly from u guys),what many Babalawos(in benin) refers to as Orunmila is not,because the way and manner it being done which is quite different from their Yoruba counterpart where Orunmila has its Origin.the Edo concept, 32 nuts are involved,blood of 'hen' is required first and seventh day and these 'nuts' are to be used as means or representation of Orunmila.imagine these 'nuts' being given to a client( who has no idea of divination) as Ifa/ Orunmila,it will yield Zero result I think.

The Edos(binis) traditional means of divination,is Iha/Ominigbon(thou also brought to Benin Kingdom by a foreigner) similar to Ifa/Orunmila which I would have believed to be d Bini's version of Orunmila is also strictly a divination tools which doesn't require blood.

One of the reasons(lack of proper knowledge) stated above could make pple embrace other foreign Belief.

From my best knowledge, there are many type of Ifa divination. We have Agbigba or Opele (it made up of chain with eight seeds with faces divided into two part), Obi (kolanut), Ile (this is divination on the earth....it mostly on sandy), Olokun (those using this divination are scanty....except in areas like Osogbo, Oyo or Ibadan. What they use for divination is cowries), Wo-mi-pee (most babalawo use this to further enquire what an Odu is saying....that is who the Odu is refering to specifically or for sacrifices), Olokun Awo (it used for consulting spiritual beings) and we have Ikin (that is the palm kernel).


Nobody mentioned that Orunmila is from benin. The primary issue here is for Oduduwa. It not for you to believe but further make enquiries on it on yourself. Knowing is more essential than believing.

Cheers

With all the news coming out through SR, some fools/ignorant Nigerians will come here and start vomitting rubbish about SR. How many of the home based newspapers company have the audacity to publish half of what SR has been publishing to the general public

Nigeria is not going to get better with all the ills going on daily unless there is a general blood shed. Pray all you can, we need to cleanse the nation with the dirt PDP and GEJ FG is painting it. Our ancestors will never and can never come down to rescue Nigerians from the hands of all the vagabonds in power. We need to learn how to raise the gun before bringing it down.

No source....it junk

In Fela voice:


this is Demo-crazy
Democrazy
Crazy demo
Demonstration of craze
Crazy demonstration

Another Aba women RIOT Evolving in Awka......


I am really proud of this women for their braveness and courage to fight for their right. They are unlike those big belly good for nothing men with the feather of chicken at their corner side of their head. They got no grounds or clue just like feather is useless and ordinary wind can move it around. This women have shown that they are mothers are the real being in the east. The rest who called themselve men are puppets of ego, kudi and owo. They are drunk with greediness and selfishness. MOTHERS......LET SEE YOU DO IT. Ibo women are politically more conscious than their men. Unlike the politically inept Ibo men, the women are quick to recognize a breach in social contract and to demand a redress.

Dancing to Eedris Abdulkareem Song. The evergreen JAGA-JAGA

Armed robber came to your house
E no take money, E no rape your wife
Went straight up to your bedside (Gbosa)
Six feet, now you are down
Which armed robber no want money
Which armed robber no want jolly
Na political armed robber be that
Na wetin dey kill Nigeria o

chorus

Nigeria jagajaga
Everything scatter scatter
Poor man dey suffer suffer
Gbosa, gbosa, gun shot inna de air


(Now we have JEGA in JAGA JAGA stronghold.....everything don PAFUKA OOOOOO)

NativeBoy: I haven't forgotten about you FOLYKAZE. So you're contending that you've never visited that site before huh? You are saying you didn't blatantly plagiarize huh?

Here's the post from the site:
• King James in 1610 commanded his men who were translating the bible into English, to insert the name of his good friend, “Shakespear “, into the 46th Psalms as a 46 birthday gift. William Shakespear was 46 years old in 1610 the year that the bible was completed being translated into English. Get an older King James Version of the bible & count 46 words starting with the first word in Psalms 46 you will come to Shake, and if you count 46 words up from the last word{refuge} In Psalms 46 you will get to Spear.{Note: The updated version of the bible have replaced the word “shake” with the word “quake” in an attempt to cover up this forgery.}

Here's your post:

FOLYKAZE:

King James in 1610 commanded his men who were translating the bible into English, to insert the name of his good friend, “Shakespear “, into the 46th Psalms as a 46 birthday gift. William Shakespear was 46 years old in 1610 the year that the bible was completed being translated into English. Get an older King James Version of the bible & count 46 words starting with the first word in Psalms 46 you will come to Shake, and if you count 46 words up from the last word {refuge} In Psalms 46 you will get to Spear. {Note: The updated version of the bible havereplaced the word “shake” with the word “quake” in an attempt to cover up this forgery. This is the same bible some people call holy inspiration.

You stole another's words (including the curly braces) and then lied about it. Then you went on to accuse me of plagiarizing.

That's really low man.

Do you know this mean?

FOLYKAZE: I said manipulation, rearrangement and placement. Is that hard to grasp?



whao. Great site. Never know such site exist. Lies from you.

I have my refute cache and written strikes. I do not copied like you.

You looking for more people to pull down your drowning lane. Lol.

When I said I have a refute cache. I mean I save everything people use which I think could be of benefit when arguing. This particular thing you pointing out is from Teekay Akin who head 'Free African Project Fb group'. Just like logicboy argument on God foolishness in psalm 14:1, I have it in my cache and since I participated in the discussion and asked for the permission, I am free to draw it from my cache.

I dont know your site but thanks for showing it. I am getting more info from it..... And maybe you need to look up for what cache mean.

macof: You Christians never read to understand, never in ur Christian life have u understood how to read carefully.

Check the bolded

They only assume Shaddai means Almighty because of KJ's conspiracy and lies. however they realize it's not so but for the respect wiki doesn't just want to drop the bomb, it could affect their service, with all this religious bigots everywhere.

In Hebrew-English dictionary
Shadda means mountain dweller
Shadayim means breasts
Shadad means destroyer
sha means who
Dai means enough
The Jews call El Shaddai the guardian of the doors of Israel- wats at the doors of Israel? Wat guards Israel? Mountains

Where did almighty come from?

I ran across an article about bosom at the bold. Dont you think Gen 49:25 which associate El as person with breast and womb mean it refering to goddess Asherah?

NativeBoy: Let's try this again:

http://www.el-shaddai.org/whatdoesitmean.asp

"God Almighty" redirects here. For other uses, see God Almighty (disambiguation).
El Shaddai (Hebrew: אל שדי, IPA: [el ʃadːaj]) is one of the Judaic names of God, with its etymology coming from the influence of the Ugaritic religion upon modern Judaism. Shaddai was one of the many Gods in Canaanite religion. El Shaddai is [b]conventionally translated as God Almighty. [/b]While the translation of El as "god" in Ugarit/Canaanite language is straightforward, the literal meaning of Shaddai is the subject of debate.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Shaddai

The first bold stated that he is one of the Gods of canaanite religion. How can Almighty be one of the Gods? What then is El?

Been conventional doesn't make it total truth.

I suggest we pick things from this site....http://www.knowingthebible.net/the-meaning-of-el-shaddai and there is special thread for this
https://www.nairaland.com/1508769/christians-god-idol-hills we can debate that there. Thanks

Jesus....the dead man on the cross.

MEILYN: you know, reading is the biggest problem you have. You will do anything just to gain points, even lying and misinterpreting people. Smh for you.

And you cant point it out? False accusations....you beaten

NativeBoy: More weasling. Perhaps you can also show that Psalm 46 was edited in 1610. The KJV translation began in 1604.

I said manipulation, rearrangement and placement. Is that hard to grasp?

Before you accuse others of plagiarism, look to your own acts. You plagiarized on page 6.

For the benefit of followers of this thread, here is the excerpt from the article you tried to pass off as your own. The quote is towards the end.

http://www.informafrica.com/afrikan-consciousness/religious-slavery/christianity-scam-exposed-myths-fairytales-superstitions/

whao. Great site. Never know such site exist. Lies from you.

I have my refute cache and written strikes. I do not copied like you.

We can't keep going back and forth like this. You have lost your integrity. You tried at all costs to undermine the KJV translation and even the meaning of El-Shaddai. You chose to ignore the fact that the conventional meaning is known by scholars to be "God Almighty." Instead you chose to insist on a weakened theory that its meaning is "god of the hills."

God of the hills is there on wiki with links. Who are the scholar that stated that El-shaddai mean God almighty?

It is clear that you will contort facts, latch on to weak information for support, and putting forth conspiracy theories, just to continue to make it seem like you know what you're talking about.

Please try to explain your blatant plagiarism. I don't see any citations.

You answered bro. You left the argument of Jesus dying for world.....you ran toward El-shaddai and evidence were pointed out with it etymology. You said i am correct on kjv counts. So what is your point? 3hit and you still crying.

macof: In santeria they say Sango keeps humans alive.

He want electric seizure in his brain so that he start epilepsy. Or the electric charge in his heart to stop functioning so that he choke to death.

Sango operates within natural balance so that he is alive without asking him for worship or threatening him with nuke. Sango made him alive today cuz it regulates all his body system. There are numerous evidence electric charge is on his skin and it proven that without it, he is useless but he keeps denying it. Some christians are completely brainwashed.

macof: The month and day date is wat isn't certain. Everyone knows it's 1564 now

The month is even accurate but different days. But we all know it 1564. The guy dishonesty is alarming.

NativeBoy: Sounds now like you're bargaining. I didn't clear you from anything. You are still dead wrong in trying to pass off as fact that their was an edit in the 46th Psalm. Then you went on to accuse me of plagiarism when it was you who plagiarized.

I also noticed that you haven't responded to the issue of Shakespeare's precise birthdate or my question about your plagiarism. I suppose I'll have to be honest.

rearrangement and placement is not there? You are dishonest.

To prove me wrong, provide another bible version with exact 46 and 46 counts with the word shake and spear specifically. Your dishonesty is boring abeg

MEILYN: erm, i never said the counting was wrong, or did i?

abeg shift. Your teeth broken. Go and heal that . next

MEILYN: .

FOLYKAZE 1

MEILYN 0

Your rant here is completely baseless. Bark at the real ball. Prove to me I lied. Ode

MEILYN: Mr Man go and sit down, u no get yarns. You talk with certainty.

You sounding like warri guy. Lol.

Your boss cleared me dog.....now bark yaself.

NativeBoy: You are correct that the KJV has 46 from top and bottom. The point is that you cannot present this as evidence of intentional edit since a bunch of other bibles have had either of the words at position 46 from top or bottom?

I am correct again? Lol correct implies truth. And your flagbearer will call me liar. Chai.

Let take it slow bro.....

There is this thing I come across in the book of revelation which I dont take serious until a friend back it with points. 'saith Amen'. Before I dont take things like that serious because I do think amen mean jesus until my friend informed me it refering to Ramen (egyptian god). That was the first day I heard anything about Ramen but I took a little step ahead to make more findings on his points. Do I know the intention of those translators? Nope but it certain that there are clues on that point.

On this said point. Something suspicious is there. There are many manipulations in kjv which are not in other translations and shows that this fishy thang in psalm 46 could be there manipulation work.

NativeBoy: Foolish of me to think you understood what italicizing text means

You want to make it appear special and direct my attention toward it. You should have add link abeg. No points

MEILYN: You are always here to clean his dirty asss , Folykaze is a factless human being, he likes assuming things. No wonder on this thread, you have correct him more than 50times. Folykaze is a liar, a big liar at that.

When I am corrected either on this thread or another, I thank macof and welcome for more because Iron sharpen Iron. I am not omniscient.

Now you have been proven that you are a puppet who bark at what you pointed to without verifying and reasoning out your points. Were you not saying you haven't check or do the counting yourself but you can praise him over something you didnt have ground for. Guy you are embarrassing.

NativeBoy: In fact, before you accuse me of plagiarism, you should have been able to determine the words were not mine. First the paragraph was italicized. Second, the transition from my words to the highlighted text is highly awkward.

Btw, would you like me to point out where YOU plagiarized?

You said you found this as if you draw it out of your bible. Why didn't you add links?

MEILYN: Folykaze, show us proof that shakespear was 46 when the kjv was written. Forget about the counting now..

Psalm 46. Pls do the counting here. Abi get your little bro to help if you cant count.

1 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
2 Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;
3 Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake *46 with the swelling thereof. Selah.
4 There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.
5 God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.
7 The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.
8 Come, behold the works of theLord, what desolations he hath made in the earth.
9 He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear *46 in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.
10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
11 The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge.

http://mobile.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+46&version=KJV


Abeg is 46 and 46 counts not producing shakespear. Pls get yourself into something before barking around.

NativeBoy: Good point. No one knows for certain what year Shakespeare was born. It is insinuated from the year of his christening. For FOLYKAZE to try to pass this off as fact, he will have to know for certain the year Shakespeare was born.

your lies is getting boring. William Shakespeare was born on April 23, 1564, in Stratford-on-Avon. http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/122

NativeBoy: Allow me to be as clear as possible. You are stating conspiracy when even it has presented to you that some bibles have either of those words at 46 and the other word within one or two words away. How can you say it was edited when previous bibles already had either of those words at those locations? The only way you could know is if either of those two words were not in close proximity and then in the KJV the words were 46 from the top and bottom.

Just admit that you cannot use this coincidence to undermine the integrity of the translation of the KJV.

46 and 46 counts with the exact word positioned is an evidence of edition

NativeBoy: Wow. Now you accuse me of plagiarism. I think you will find that I have been consistent in citing other people's work in by italicizing it. I even said "here is another one I FOUND". This is distasteful bro.

Just because I didn't call you on it. I saw a post you passed off as your own on another site. The nerve you have.

bursted. Do the count and lets roll. Raged is not same as shake as shakespear is not ragedspear. Hit me when you got chance.....

MEILYN: My friend am on mobile, so its very difficult to know what is what, secondly am on mobile so typing and bringing facts from okoko-ejigbo is also difficult. Anyway, the counting point is a piece of s.hit, you just like jumping around, from spear-speare, now the counting is your problem huh? Show us proof that shakespear was 46 when the 1610 kjv was written?

And you think I am on computer? I am using nokia phone. So dont tell us poo here.

I have provided the guildline. 46 and 46 counts in psalm 46 produces shakespear only in kjv. Then refute me or go to apologetic sites for deceitful clues.

Get your bible and do the count abeg

macof: And that's where knowledge fails u

Orunmila is ur friend and so am I
Am sure u Igbo, Sango is same as Amadioha go ur village, ask questions.

Electric charges in his body makes him alive today. Yet the fool keeps foolishing his foolishness.

MEILYN: I never said so. And erm, why should i bother myself about what sango means? I aint gat time for that shit mehn.

What the hell is this in the color bold?

MEILYN: I agree with you, God is the God of mountains. Mountains means Nations. I wont say more than that.

Idol is image or object representation.....mountain represent your God. Your lies is really great just that it easy to burst

macof: Guy I care not about shake...unless it's milkshake
Ur Lord KJ messed up

So let's move on

The guy wants to inform us shakespear is now ragedspeare. And that my points should appear 46 and 46 counts should not be relevant because the 1count difference. Simple math is missing in me.

Christians lies and deceitful coverup through stealing is really embarrassing. I dont know what to call christian version of taqiyya