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GEJ is a clueless drunkard who is encircled by WIKE (we intend to kill education) the politically confused tout and Okpuke (a good for nothing bastard 'Oku-epe' (the copse of Epe) the gluton who reasoned only when it about putting money in his plate.

Gej has lost his compeletely. I find out now that ASUU was right with this struggle. The government should sign this agreement and stop giving us cheap words.

9jadelta: all those things are bogus..

There is nothing more I expect from Nigerian atheist.

9jadelta: lets take the simple one that doesn't involve killing or guns.

So if chemistry teacher wants to show students how dangerous acid is, he will bath one student with it huh? What are animals meant for in research field? How about inanimate objects? The last time I check, bullet proof vest are tested on animal or inanimate object. So why cant we proceed on that?

Osanyin is not killing you. You are free to chat with it. Ask questions and it will answer you. How is this related to killing?

9jadelta: African Teleportation aka traveling in in seconds like ghostofsparta portrays it..

Where did Ghostofsparta said you will travel in second? Maybe 'FUTURE MUST' is now hidden in his sentence.

9jadelta: I CHALLENGE ALL PAGANS OR ANYONE THAT BELIEVED THIS AFRICAN TELEPORTATION TO TELEPORT HIM/HERSELF TO MY HOUSE AND DO THE SAME BACK TO HIS HOUSE

show interest here, i will drop my contact for the person via email... we can even create a thread for this challenge

That is for Ghostofsparta. He already challenged you guys. What you got to do is pick it up and it nice that you do such.

GHOSTOFSPARTA......you made teleport claim, it over to you.

FOLYKAZE: @ 9jadelta


The main point is said here Experience alone can decide on truth. ... Pure logical thinking cannot yield us any knowledge of the empirical world: all knowledge of reality starts from experience and ends in it. (Albert Einstein, 1954) You heard people making claim, you cant know if it truth or not without experiend it. Writing epistle here to discredit what you dont have hand to hand contact with is arrogance.

Let me start dealing with your points by bringing up what you called 'contradiction' in my post. Ghostofsparta mentioned 'YORUBA ADVANCE SCIENCE (YAS), I dont not see where he mentioned supernation or non-scientifical which you are trying to hold on. And note, like i have ever mentioned on previous thread, supernation is just a term used to describe a phenomenon which doesn't have explanation yet.....these phenomena are mostly attributed to spirits, or spiritual source. If you have understand naturalistic pantheism, you would have known that spirit is energy/natural forces in science worldview and what these people refer to deities are natural forces. They were explaining things to their best understanding just like lucifer is what we call planet venus today. So when critical observation and experimentation are lodged into this phenomenon, it become normal and add up to knowledge.

You are quick to call local medicine form of science. Pls can the old papa in the village list the chemical components in his herb concortion? If you are heal, they go to bush and get cashew, paw-paw and other leaves.....can they give you explanation on their medicine? To the best I know, they attribute everything to God. Pls how is this scientifical?

You left there ignoring incantation/spell and incision used for treatments. Thanks that you brought it up again when debriefing teleporting.

Incantation is a spiritual voice command prompt that reconfigure the cosmic ether, the natural flow of energy around us. You see everything there is, is energy. The solid things we call matter, it's just congealed energy. Really hard things, is just more of the congealed energy. The sound you are mentioning are energies huh? They cant be created nor destroyed but transformed. So why cant incantation work? Do you know songs can make little baby sleep? Do you know the song we listen to have impacts on brain? Why cant spell work pls?

Anyway, we disturb the flow of the energy in a manner that sets into motion a sequence of events that causes our spells/incantation to come to fruition. There must be years of training and testing before it works which brought about initiation. Now tell me if incision and incantation is scientifical. They are use in our today treatments.....let see you give logical explanation for both.

The silly question been asked is the same 'if we have these stuff, why are we conquered'.....pagan9ja gave answers, I did likewise. So dont expect me to go on in circle with you on this. Greediness and arrogance is our problem. We were divided against self. Dig more on that man.

Good to know you attest that some people including sweet mum still use herbs and chewing stick. There is a saying that the herbs that work effectively cost a penny.... I mentioned Yem-kem who is show casing our medicine to international standard. And if you follow my point correctly.... what have you done to change your world? Are you expecting people to do it for you? Are there nothing you can do than argument? We have intelligent scientist on this forum but have they tried to return home or their root and dig out knowledge for a well flourishing add up? We have called you guys to come and investigate this stuff so that you deduce theory from it and make something out of it either by upgrading or remodelling. Is it me that dont know the tools or how to detect electromagnetic field you wants to produce bullet proof kit? Pls stop the joke

Hey dude. I was banned by the anti-spam bot. And THANKS TO THE MOD FOR HELPING ME OUT ON THIS.

I was about to edit when the ban stamped me. Here are what I wanted to add.

Incense, music, other aids in spiritulity are aromatherapy, sound, etc-- all known scientifically to stimulate different parts of the brain.

Incantation or Spell in spirituality is neurolinguistic programming in science. (this is explanable bound of science from spirituality)

Herbs/brews/potions in spirituality are herbs, which biochemically act on the brain to produce and achieve the desired effects or heal ailments.

Energy manipulation is the main door post of spiritual acts when science said everything is made of energy on an atomic level; including thoughts and mind.

If people can do these when there was no logical explanation and critical analysis provided to their points, why cant we lodge in our scientifical knowledge into it rather than looking for already-made west fantasy?

@ 9jadelta


The main point is said here Experience alone can decide on truth. ... Pure logical thinking cannot yield us any knowledge of the empirical world: all knowledge of reality starts from experience and ends in it. (Albert Einstein, 1954) You heard people making claim, you cant know if it truth or not without experiend it. Writing epistle here to discredit what you dont have hand to hand contact with is arrogance.

Let me start dealing with your points by bringing up what you called 'contradiction' in my post. Ghostofsparta mentioned 'YORUBA ADVANCE SCIENCE (YAS), I dont not see where he mentioned supernation or non-scientifical which you are trying to hold on. And note, like i have ever mentioned on previous thread, supernation is just a term used to describe a phenomenon which doesn't have explanation yet.....these phenomena are mostly attributed to spirits, or spiritual source. If you have understand naturalistic pantheism, you would have known that spirit is energy/natural forces in science worldview and what these people refer to deities are natural forces. They were explaining things to their best understanding just like lucifer is what we call planet venus today. So when critical observation and experimentation are lodged into this phenomenon, it become normal and add up to knowledge.

You are quick to call local medicine form of science. Pls can the old papa in the village list the chemical components in his herb concortion? If you are heal, they go to bush and get cashew, paw-paw and other leaves.....can they give you explanation on their medicine? To the best I know, they attribute everything to God. Pls how is this scientifical?

You left there ignoring incantation/spell and incision used for treatments. Thanks that you brought it up again when debriefing teleporting.

Incantation is a spiritual voice command prompt that reconfigure the cosmic ether, the natural flow of energy around us. You see everything there is, is energy. The solid things we call matter, it's just congealed energy. Really hard things, is just more of the congealed energy. The sound you are mentioning are energies huh? They cant be created nor destroyed but transformed. So why cant incantation work? Do you know songs can make little baby sleep? Do you know the song we listen to have impacts on brain? Why cant spell work pls?

Anyway, we disturb the flow of the energy in a manner that sets into motion a sequence of events that causes our spells/incantation to come to fruition. There must be years of training and testing before it works which brought about initiation. Now tell me if incision and incantation is scientifical. They are use in our today treatments.....let see you give logical explanation for both.

The silly question been asked is the same 'if we have these stuff, why are we conquered'.....pagan9ja gave answers, I did likewise. So dont expect me to go on in circle with you on this. Greediness and arrogance is our problem. We were divided against self. Dig more on that man.

Good to know you attest that some people including sweet mum still use herbs and chewing stick. There is a saying that the herbs that work effectively cost a penny.... I mentioned Yem-kem who is show casing our medicine to international standard. And if you follow my point correctly.... what have you done to change your world? Are you expecting people to do it for you? Are there nothing you can do than argument? We have intelligent scientist on this forum but have they tried to return home or their root and dig out knowledge for a well flourishing add up? We have called you guys to come and investigate this stuff so that you deduce theory from it and make something out of it either by upgrading or remodelling. Is it me that dont know the tools or how to detect electromagnetic field you wants to produce bullet proof kit? Pls stop the joke

9jadelta: you have to prove this garbage real before i can accept it... simple

i want you to travel in a sec to my room right now, then we can talk business



seriously guys, we have leafs that could stop bulllet and we are still afraid of west? we have leafs that could make us travel in a sec and we still depend on oyel?

I have challenged mazaje so that we showcase this bullet proof charm. Where is he today?

I challenged logicboy on Osanyin (a machine with artificial intelligence built thousands of year ago), he bark around as if it going to kill him.

Ghostofsparta challenged all atheist on this forum...non of you guys were present to answer his call. So what more do you want? To bring video here so that you claim it edited huh?

Bank Manager: Are you calling the President a coward..?Is your father one??Mannerless kid.!

I agree now you lack proper home training and or possibily you were the one that choose not to be trained and mannered. Must you insult another person father here?

GEJ is the president of this country, he got duties which he must deliver....and if he is not delivering his job, he should be criticized. An eagle that cant hunt a chicken deserved to be disgrace publicly. We want active goat and not a dead lion like GEJ.

coolshegs10: People are funny or shud i say stupid? So wot u guys are trying 2 say is dat Jesus is in support of alcoholic drinks since he turned water to wine @ Cana?
This what can be best described as ''ignorance of the highest order''....u beta ask God for forgiveness for insulting d innocent pastor.

Definately you are not reading your bible and it seem you are the one silly here. Here are some verses supporting drinking of wines (strong alcohol) in the bible.

Genesis 27:28
God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine.

Judges 9:13
Wine, which cheereth God and man.

Psalms 104:15
Wine that maketh glad the heart of man.

Proverbs 31:6-9
Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.

Ecclesiastes 9:7
Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart.

Song of Solomon 5:1
I have drunk my wine.... O friends; drink, yea, drink abundantly.

Zechariah 9:17
How great is his goodness ... corn shall make the young men cheerful, and new wine for the maids.

Deuteronomy 14:26
....and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the LORD your God and rejoice, you and your household.

^^^^here is an instruction from God saying you can use your money to buy wine and stron drink. Shebi it your money?


There is one from apostle paul. 1 Timothy 5:23
Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

lol

They are calling on Kegites club internation. If you break my wine calabash, palm tree will grow from their church.

Fela said it in his song....vagabonds in power.... 99.99% of what we read about Africa are wrong.

He further said in one of his interview in Berlin that the europeans are making every effort to destroy all the facts and amazing thoughts about Africa. That is the reason if you check the internet today, you hardly find any discovery from Africa. The only ones they put on internet are fetish and not making any sense.

"Look, we're very backward. The African continent is degenerating into what I call the era of second slavery. And it's caused by a conspiracy of Western Governments on one side and illegal African Governments on the other side, operating without a constitution. My Government is like that, a military Government that runs the country by decree."

~ Fela Kuti talking to journalists at New York in 1989, before performing at the Apollo Theater in a benefit for James Brown.


@ Logicboy. Here what the Prophet of Afro pop said about your type:

"When you are a colonial boy, you don't know anything about your own culture. I saw that colonial education and upbringing, which America was involved in too, was very badly wild. History starts with Mungo Park `discovering' the Niger! This pushed me so much I said I wanted to die in the struggle."

Apart from atheism and christianity with what you read about other religion, what can you say about your tribe spirituality and culture? This is not about sharing picture where you wore traditional wears with pagan9ja. Come forward and tell us what you know about the deities in your tribe spirituality. Old granny in the village can make little herbs for treating ailments. She did this without knowing anything about modern science......and you here not respecting what she got in hand. You think darwin is flying here to help your nation out?

Western fantasy and ignorance have clouded whole Africa. It time we wake up.

This people wants to put sand inside the garri of those selling toy guns.

They should find another thing to make law on.

Logicboy03: Lol.....this is madness.

You are even brainwashed more than some christians.

Guy, the only alliance I have with you is that I respect ur traditions out of heritage.....other than that, your local advanced science is BULLSHITE!

This is stupidity. Jewish atheist aint stupid like you and others who reason like you.

Like I asked on 'Why African atheist are embracing buddhism over African spirituality', it is now glaring that your atheism is slaverish.

macof: I see light in this Issue Ghost is on.

Africans have always had a strange unexplained technique for doing things.
This techniques were never open to the public, it's always be reserved for specific cults that demand much devotion and a rigorous initiation.

A particular technique could be found only in one clan, in one village, in one tribe.
And it would have been a well kept secret to prevent targeted attacks.

Imagine Nigeria making use of such techniques in it's Science and Research

Prince (Dr.) Akintunde Ayeni who owned Yem-Kem international among others are really trying. He brought modern science into Yoruba spirituatiy. We just have lot of works to do in unity.

I once read this project 'Russian Billionaire Plans To immortalize Humans By 2045'. I still try to see if there is connection about this project and ORO (Consultation of dead ancestors through spiritual powers). Mehn....we need the revolution....and it should start now.

Thanks for bringing this thread up ghostofsparta.

If am to give answer to the title of this thread, I will only say that most Africans have inferiority mentality. This include atheists and freethinker at home and abroad. The way jewish atheists are involve in judaic spirituality is really amazing. The buddhist atheist too are not holding on other race spirituality other than buddhism (mostly those in japan) but the case is kinda different when Africans come in. I give whole respect to Africans in America. They have evolved African spiritual-science into modernity. I was happy when I read inventions from black Africans which had add up to civilization. But if you look at things from within, it seem Africans here are lazy. They either want the white men to bring up inventions or rebranding. The religious one on the other side are waiting for God or spirit to do it for them. Atheist basically are meant to argue and bash religion folks. Like a friend asked me, 'what is your recommendation now you have bashed and debunked me', he said. Just like the government is banning some import products, they have to recommend alternate at home here and draw efficient production of it so that people in general will benefit without outside aid. Africa produces many science graduates in different field.....what are they inventing today? The so called intelligent atheist from Africa, how are they going to make life better than arguments which cant hold air?

Lets use chewing stick for example. Our ancestors discovered this plant and deduced that it will be good for teeths. This stick was used for treating any teeth disease and for making other herbs. This was what they used before the europeans came. They brought toothpaste and brush arguing that chewing stick is too hard for the teeth. They also built up problems which aint real so that Africans will embrace toothpaste and brush over chewing stick. Now look at what we got today, a doctor told me chewing stick is the best. I then asked me why cant they extract the chemicals in this stick and produce our own paste. Here we go seeing old professionally trained health officer stammering because he got nothing to say. To the best I could think, he was expecting the white men to come and invent it just like other Africans. This applies to all atheists in Nigeria. They got quotes from darwin and argue like rocket scientist. But what can they offer or recommend? Nothing than cheap talk.

When I read some books sent to me by my AA friend, I read and cried. This book 'The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality?' By Diop, Cheikh Anta. and “The Lost Sciences of Africa by Van Sertima, my mouth was opened. I couldn't believe discoveries and inventions root out in Africa. From the book, the lineage of discoveries in science and technology dating back to 40,000 years before the white men came around.

- mathematics in Egypt. Pi, constructive angle and others found in their written documents. Binary digits found in yoruba community which gave birth to Ifa divination....more like computer of today. The numbering in Yoruba society involve advance multiplication, division, addition and subtraction which are done with the head.

- Egyptians are versed in astrological science. They documented movement of the sun and other planets. They divided the year into 12 parts and developed a yearlong calendar system containing 365 ¼ days. Clocks were made with moving water and sundial-like clocks were used. A structure known as the African Stonehenge in present-day Kenya (constructed around 300 B.C.) was a remarkably accurate calendar. The dogon of Mali knew of Saturn’s rings, Jupiter’s moons, the spiral structure of the Milky Way and the orbit of the Sirius star system. These West Africans people have not only plotted the orbits of stars circling Sirius but have revealed the extraordinary nature of one of its companions- Sirius B- which they claim to be one of the densest of stars in our galaxy. What is most astonishing about their revelations is that Sirius B is invisible to the unaided eye. There is this saying in Yoruba that 'obiri laye' meaning the earth is spherical.....how could these people know this without any intelligence?

- This book “Steel-Making in Ancient Africa.”Blacks in Science: Ancient and and Modern by Shore, Debra. reveal steel making among the Haya of Tanzania. Research done by Peter Schmidt and Donald Avery discovered that, ‘ 2,000 years ago Africans living on the western shore of Lake Victoria had produced carbon steel in pre-heated forced-draft furnaces, a method that was technologically more sophisticated that any developed in Europe until the mid-nineteenth century.’

- Music, political and economical structure among others had been a beautiful one even without white men.

Our destiny is in our hand. Inferioric mentality should be wiped if Africa should rise again.

What is religion, movement and atheism? Kindly give us your defination and we might help.

Religion could mean different thing to different people. It can also be used for an expression to mean different thing entirely. Example, football fans is a form of religion. So if you could define what you mean by those terms, we will know where to drive to.

If it evolution then it must be for an atheist. How about the christians endorsing it today?

It is glaring that the government will do everything to cover up any traces that points to them here. What exactly is that thing that pierced him? Is that hard to mention?

01mcfadden: We are all made to know that yorubas came from mecca.
We later heard oduduwa came with chain from heaven.
We dont even know which of these is true bt i sure know if he came from mecca,why are yorubas black?
Or are people living in mecca also black?
Yrouba's history is being distorted for real!

This is exactly what the Ooni was saying. Religion has clouded your mentality and this made you to force your history with Arab nomadic.

Yoruba people are not from Mecca. Go and study your History before you start wander like a lost goat.

The monarch spoke in Ado-Ekiti, Ekiti State.
The Ooni of Ife, Okunade Sijuade, has warned against any effort to distort the history of the Yoruba race so as not to jeopardise the people’s culture and misinform the younger generation.

The monarch gave the warning in Ado-Ekiti on Monday, at the launch of “Ekiti Historical and Royal Compendium”, a book written by all traditional rulers in Ekiti State.

Mr. Sijuade lamented that those involved in the distortion of the history of the Yoruba people had reduced the race to a “laughing stock’’.

He stressed the need to desist from such aberration, saying that persons who engaged in such acts would harm the interests of the Yoruba race if they not checked. He noted that those who were distorting the history of the Yoruba race were now being looked up to for knowledge and as role models.

The Ooni said that for centuries, the Yoruba race had no “other source than the cradle, Ile-Ife’’, regretting, however, that many facts about the existence of the race had been distorted.

Mr. Sijuade stressed that the Yoruba traditions had been denigrated in many ways, adding that such anti-social acts were carried out by some people for “personal gains, selfish reasons and individual satisfaction”.

In his speech, Afe Babalola, the Chairman of the occasion, pledged to intervene in the issues raised by the Ooni, saying that concerted efforts should be made to promote the development of the Yoruba race.

He, however, bemoaned the whittling down of the powers of traditional rulers in the 1999 Constitution, saying that it had debased the traditional system in the country.
Mr. Babalola urged traditional rulers in the country to present a common memorandum to the proposed national conference “on the need to have an institution that is similar to United Kingdom’s House of Lords’’.

He said that such an arrangement would enable the country’s traditional rulers to meet regularly and contribute to decision-making processes.

source

truthislight: Bros, i dey hail o!

Can i do anything here that will make sense to you considering your motives ?

like your name implies, truth is light. When there is light, I cant call it darkness unless I have eye problem. If there is anything you want to say, do it....since i can reason, I will know if it make sense or not

Op, you are wrong. Though what tithe mean to me could be different from yours. Tithe is the tenth of your produce and not your income. So it involve food, shelter and clothing. This should be directed to the people around you.....not pastors or church leader.

Deuteronomy 14:22-29
King James Version (KJV)
22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
23 And thou shalt eat before the Lord thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the Lord thy God always.
24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Lord thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the Lord thy God hath blessed thee:
25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Lord thy God shall choose:
26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Lord thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee.
28 At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:
29 And the Levite, (because he hath no part nor inheritance with thee,) and the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, which are within thy gates, shall come, and shall eat and be satisfied; that the Lord thy God may bless thee in all the work of thine hand which thou doest.


Isaiah 58:6-10
King James Version (KJV)
6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the Lord shall be thy reward.
9 Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;
10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day:

And this is from the same bible

Matthew 23:23
King James Version.
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Am going with anything that fit me either it from ABA or ABAKALIKI

Nigerian students with their white collar job search mentality. When will all these end in this country? When will company apply for graduates to employ before graduation of the said student? I have taken my mind away from this white collar thing.....self employment pays

His opponent should be arrested. This guy was killed for political reason.

The only thing our christians and muslims brother can do is hating each other as programmed while pastors fly private jets instead of reaching out to people

You want to air your voice? Pay the price

shadydeals: And you believe it's madness to express one's beliefs or faith?

It is madness when you express fantasy in your mind rather than experiencing it in reality.

A mad man dance around in rag....they even mock you when you put on clean clothes because they are mad.

Hell preacher only imagine how Hell is. From there they deduce hell temperature, numbers of prison there, people there and their messages yet they have not been to Hell once. Only in the heart......that is madness

shadydeals: so what's ur point, that they are crazy? mteeew.

That is called 'kolo mentality' in the spiritual underground.

Logicboy03: But between the Abrahamic faiths which would you choose?

Christianity though.

I prefer African spirituality than both. It beats them all. I will always walk with that than Abrahamic faiths

Sometimes when I reason about christianity and Islam, I wonder why women are into it. Christianity and Islam proves that women are first degree sex machine..... Islam took away their rights completely, they are mostly logs of hell fire, no reward in paradise than been Bleep there by martyrs,...... christianity silent them in public (though I agree there are some forms of reform here), the same women are vessel of sin (eve and dont look them romantically). To marry a lady now as laid down in the old testament, I can simply rape one and have her. I can wage war against my enemy camp, bash baby to stone, kill all men and animal but keep that good looking virgin to Bleep. Religion is completely an insult to womanhood.