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MonsieurCoder: He was joking, where is your sense of humor? he was only trying to answer the questions how any typical christian would.

Almighty cover up. Were you not the one saying I am not an atheist? Lol. And you about to cover the ass of Gamer. Pls do you know the meaning?

You also want to cover someone that boldly say Old testament is for US. Anyway he is Igbo and probably a lost jew. Lol

jayriginal: Do my eyes deceive me?

Are you not the person that made the below post?



Notice how the first involves distance and the next involves cost? So when someone tells you that he is far away, it is unacceptable to you, but its alright for you to use the distance to America as an excuse not to collect your money. Right?

I mean, you expect to get your million dollars how exactly? Did you imagine there arent people able to perpetuate more clever hoaxes than the one you are bandying?

Ok, let me show you why you shouldnt even take yourself seriously. You said this

Note pls. I applied for it. It not them calling or begging me to come. So your whole argument is baseless.

There is no atheist in Nigeria or what? The test have been cost free (except your t-fare), is that comparable to flying in and out of state without a clean certainty that you will be given room for it....you see the difference? Common stop this insincerity with fact.

ghostofsparta: Everyone, wait a minute...going through MonsieurCoder's post, I discovered aManfromMars is religionist presenting himself as an atheist here:
https://www.nairaland.com/1506288/dear-christians-how-did-devil
So I'm right to have joked you - martian pagan hunter



And yet his signature is: Igbo|Gamer|Atheist

Lots of fakesters on nairaland ever since.

Logicboy called him Judas. Chai....imagine he is refering to old testament message directed as us. I once caught him insulting his ancestors calling them dumb and folks of folklore. The guy is fake.

MonsieurCoder: @ghostofsparta and @folykaze where do you guys reside?

I am currently in Ondo state so location detail is up to Ghostofsparta

ghostofsparta: @FOLYKAZE
In as much as your hypothesis is a brilliant one, an explanation I find sensible, how can one explain a version of APB where the firer himself gets injured? What I mean is A man x grips his loaded pistol aimed at target y who is rendered with this type of ABP YAS. Immidiately man X pulls the trigger, the bullet will have it path reversed inside the muzzle, thus resulting in a catastrophe that get the firer injured. To me this metaphysics way beyond the league of science as we know it.

Lets understand one point bro. Spirituality can be reach only through quatum physics, advance mathematics and chemical science. In science worldview, spirit is force/energy and like I explained Orisa in one of my thread, I called them natural force base on their patakis. So the manipulation and usage of this thing are base on critical observation and analysis.

The hypothesis I wrote there is about Ayeta (bullet deflector). I think what you are refering to in your post is Afobun. Like it name implies, it burst gun into pieces and I dont think the bullet change project direction and hit shooter. The only thing that can give answer to all this issues is detecting electromagnetic force around this charm. If we can find it, the hypothesis for Ayeta will work for Afobun with little furthering reveals. The explanation I can give here on Afobun is that since gun uses force for firing bullets, the person holding this jazz too hold a charm that produces force. The best way for understanding this is through knowing all about thunder and lightening. There is relativeness between lightening/thunder and Afobun. Lightening is caused by a build-up of charges of force in clouds as they move through our atmosphere. The clouds discharge this charge into the ground. This electrical energy is caused by the same kind of interactions that result in
static electricity between you and your clothes. Thunder results because of the air around the lightning becomes super heated and expands and contracts rapidly......which cause the bang or explosion.

So just like Ayeta that it effectiveness might work through electromagtic force, Afobun must produce enough and much more or greater electromagtic force than Ayeta, and it must be in a very close range. So instead of deflecting the projectile when it already outside the bullet-way in the gun, the force of the bullet and the jazz force collide inside the gun with the projecting bullet force. This just like lightening and thunder cause explosion from the collide of forces inside the gun and might lead to the bursting open of the gun itself. So the injury the holder or shooter have will be shock and scattering of the exploding gun pieces. This is the best way I can explain it.

There is another bullet jazz I heard about.....if you point the gun directly to the charm, it wont function and if you point it to another target that do not have this charm, it will function well. Right I dont have explanation for this.

ghostofsparta: @folykaze check up to read and reply my modified post.

which of your post are you refering to specifically?

rationalmind: .



You don't have to resort to insults. People won't always have to agree.

I still don't agree with most of the things you said but the mere presence of the insults pissed me off replying.

If you were the one that made claim that eating razor blade is a common knowledge, wiegraf would have asked you to prove yourself and if you ignore him like he did, he will turn to bashing, insulting and praising west world including his lord Darwin. Now the ball is in his court, all he can do is searching helplessly for the common knowledge uncommonly and when he cant find help, he employed insults. Typical way of nairaland atheist. They are all losers and barking dogs

Hey Amanfrommars.

What on earth do you want Ghostofsparta to do that can convince you on this? To start shooting you guys to kick start gun fight so that you attack back and see the activeness of this jazz?

You might insult or split hell out but lets try to understand something. Like Ray Mcblue said in one of his post, 'I cant join the league illiterates and touts unless they get educated and organised.' I stand to correct him on this statement that what if this people have little knowledge within them, how can you help them? Why cant you educate them?

Get this straight bro. No matter what, we both agree there are little civilization here before the white men came. This civilization is an evidence that there is knowledge here but why do we ignore it for it to vanish? Lets take a very good example from chewing stick. When the white people came, they brought brush and toothpaste as alternate telling us chewing stick is too hard or such so we should ignore it. After a long period, they again told us the chewing stick we ignore is the best ever because it contain chemical components that make the teeth strong and defend it against bacterias. This same chewing stick cost N5 or nothing compare to the price of toothbrush and toothpaste. Despite the value and benefit in this stick, some cut it away as weed but I am proud that is what I am using up till date which is fine for me. We have the chewing stick, do we have to wait for the white men to rebrand and modernize it for us? For hell sake, what do you get educated for? Do you expect me that have little knowledge about science and cant go beyond integrated science of secondary school to modernize chewing stick either by extracting the natural chemicals in it for tooth ache treatment or normal toothbrushing..... Do you think I know about how to make paste with this chemicals in chewing stick? Bro this is exactly what we are calling you for. Atheism shouldn't be about bashing religion and God but how you can develop your environment and at least give room for alternate or recommendation for ex-faith holder to look up to.

A critical example of person that modernize Yoruba knowlede is Prince (Dr.) Akintunde Ayeni, who took to the profession,
which has brought fame to his family and entire yoruba people. Events preceding his formal education
revealed traits of a great traditional healer and was born to an Ifa priest. Apart from being a product of a family with traditional antecedents, he was born with a leaf & some cowries
clutched within his palms meaning he was initiated into Ifa cult and traditional medicine.

Prince (Dr.) Akintunde Ayeni believes that there is no ailment that is incurable as taught by Ifa. So from what he learnt from his dad, he is capable
of using herbs, roots and water to treat and heal any ailment. Dr. Ayeni has
the opinion that sickness that afflicts man can be traced to physical sources
and spiritual sources. Withi this knowledge, he went to higher institution and study fishery science where possibily he got much knowledge about science and he patched this with Ifa. This is how Yem-Kem was giving birth to. Yem-Kem brought in machine and rebrand local herds for international standard. Isn't this achievement? Why cant he rely on western western western?

There is also a project on sickle cell from a Yoruba traditional medicine practitioner which have been tested in WHO and works great. I think there is problem in the final phase but if we build in our research on this herbs, dont you think sickle cell will be history? Now tell me, what is the benefit of your education when you cant make things out for yourself than relying on another person for survival? I cant help but laugh reading you calling me person with inferior mind. Who is inferior in mind between you and me? Isn't you that cant see good thing in yourself expect west? I can list continuous number of Traditional medicine practitioners working on local medicine but educational ability and fund are hinding them back. When you are educated, what then is it you are doing than bashing religion all around?

Lets move a little bit away from medicine....bullet proof jazz works fine. Ghostofsparta and me have called on you guys to confirm and investigate it. The best you can do is bash me instead of verifying the authencity of our claims. To the best I can, I have explain the naturalistic possibilities in it. That is if this jazz produces electromagnetic force then it truth. How do you want me to detect electromagnetic force when I dont know much about physics or have apparatus for this? So just tell us how your atheism will benefit religion folks if only you can do is bashing. Aint you a loser then?

This is all I am about. Bashing haven't yield anything. You need to use what you got to get what you need. The locals against foreign though you need rebranding and upgrading the local if and only you want to be free from oppression. Cheers bro

aManFromMars: Confusion, mass confusion.. black man is finished.

tell us you are not in Nigeria or have tight schedule then lets know you got nothing to offer. Just answer a call.....simple like ABC

Ajibam: we can share the light of the Gospel.. we are the salt of the world

who among you is light.....catholic or protestant?

rationalmind: Hahahaha, shey? I tire o. I also equally dismiss jazz out rightly until I read the story the story of shina rambo. His personal confession. Since then I'll say my stance is agnostic on it. Just try to do a quick google search on it n read.

Its difficult to dismiss the existence of jazz but as platteon said, maybe there are natural explanations we don't just quite know for now. Not that we will just claim they are bullshit when we've not even witnessed one.

I didnt read about Shina Rambo. I have seen him and heard his confession directly from him when I was still a christian. Everything he said were wield. I can boldly say the name of the church, the pastor that invited him, the theme of the programme and location for anybody around this vicinity to confirm this I am saying. But since I dont know who Rambo was when robbing, I seriously doubt the man claiming to be Rambo.

However, that do not kick against my experience on jazz. It is very common in Ondo town during Ogun festival.....like water in basket without licking, putting nail in nose and vomiting it through mouth, and many other stunts. Now nairaland atheist call it all bullshiit because west haven't say anything about it.....and when the challenge come to their face, they tell you fancy stories. The worst is if you provide them video, they will still discredit it.

I am of the opinion that logicboy or any other bark at atheist should be present for this. Producing video wont satisfy this Darwin slaves as they can claim it act or edited.

rationalmind: Yea, there is a point which is that, until you do it, I will never take what you said serious about people doing it everywhere.

Maybe I didn't explain how my friend really told me. He said they were in a joint drinking when an old man came to meet them claiming to possess various charms. He told them the charms he had and they all started laughing at him. The man told them he can prove it and they agreed only on the condition that someone neutral will do it so it doesn't appear he's just playing tricks on them. They all were afraid to test it until someone summoned up courage to put the charm on his left hand and eat the razor blade. It was a new one they just bought. He told me the guy ate it and spitted nothing.

This was what I told you and you dismissed it saying its common knowledge and various videos on youtube show people doing it. Good. Then you should also do it yourself. Remb it was also that guys first time of ever eating the razor blade.

Lol......wiegraf, see how you make yourself foolish? It is common knowledge but you cant do it. How is it common knowledge then? You called this silliness when challenged to prove it common knowledge and you babbling around like a chicken that lost it mother. Smh.

Mr President: At a very young age, you boys are already diabolic. Imagine two nitwits threatening me with idolatry

I dare you both in the Name of The Most High God.

Ignorance is really a disease. Eshu is not a monster that attack person around or suck blood. And you were saying you know much about Yoruba history, spirituality and culture but you dont know what Eshu is? Seriously if you dont encounter Eshu, transformation wont come near you cuz Eshu Odara mean divine messenger of transformation.

You know the reason I asked Eshu to meet you? When Sango asked Eshu the reason he trick and cause chaos everywhere....Eshu replied saying 'I WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE THINK'. You dont want to think? I person needs challenges before success. Business men needs it as challenges make them think and restructure. So dont be scared man......just get knowledge and reasons. Lol

The Mod and the super mod selecting those topics have displayed that religion section is the den of bigots and sycophants. Is this all christians can do?

wiegraf: I didn't watch the video, this is common knowledge. What in the world makes you think it's not hard? And these are really silly questions, is there a point? Or are you one of those geniuses that gets ideas from jackass or dirty sanchez?

Lmao....i dont know if you to take you as a liar or silly person..... How do you know there are videos about this when you didn't watch it?. this is common knowledge but it not very common. I cant eat blade and wont dare to cuz I know it effect. Rather it common knowledge to you......will you eat it? Dont worry you will be safe.

wiegraf: People didn't start eating glass today. A simple youtube search should yield ample results

Yes.....wiki puppets here again. If it not on wiki, then it shouldn't be accepted. Lol.

Modern science is when you follow due procedure, you get the same result no matter who you are. Pls can you watch all the video on person eating razor blade and let see you eating one?

Ranchhoddas: too much fringe(sci-fi) ...i want you to explain the physics of chewing bottles and not getting injured.

lol. Really bro. There are difference between witnessing or knowing something and understanding how it works. Nobody is claiming to be highland of knowledge here. We learn everyday anywhere. I think continual investigation should provide the answer you asking for.

One thing I just want you to understand is that spirituality and science are on opposite sides of a coin. Like Sagan said.....spirituality is not only compatible with science but it the profound source of science. Those making herbs dont know what chemical substance is but there own is to pluck paw paw leaf and cut some tree back....from there, medicine come. No lab or any scientific analysis but this things work fine. If only we can keep seeking, questioning and investigate....we will get somewhere.

wiegraf: What nuggets do you speak of?

He said look beyond what you see and light the candle instead of cursing the dark. Dont wait till Darwin tell you what you got to do......only mo.ron cant use their sense till other come and dig out the reality that stupidity brain cant see.

druid06: @Plaetton ( Btw, I'm trying to fathom what that moniker means )

How would you explain in scientific term how a traditionalist be it a native doctor giving some protection for cutlasses, knives and broken bottle attack.

This might be out of context so you should bear with me. I used to have a friend who on occasion brags about how impenetrable his hide his towards machetes and bottles and I actually though he was being silly until there was a bet.

The bet was we were going to physically attack with a sharp machete on his azz ( Since that part of the body usual heals quick and contains mostly fat and has very few blood vessels ) and he accepted. I wasn't prepared to go with the bet but he urged me on and so I gave it a try thinking at the back of my mind that what I'm about to do might possibly land me in jail for possibly assault, manslaughter or murder but I was so intoxicated and I went further with my bet.

First, I landed him some small jabs on the bottom area just to be careful and nothing happened. He urged me on and even called me a biitch ( The dude has a weird sense of humour ) for landing such little blows and I got upset and landed more blows harder each time with the machete and nothing seemed to happen. I proceeded to his hand, legs, back region, abdomen and there was not a single cut.

Others dude with me then proceeded with their newly sharped machete on this dude and he was just laughing hysterical. Some minutes later after we've been exhausted with the sheer feeling of disappointment of losing our bet, we all proceeded to exam him and there was not a single scratch/mark on him. His azz and the whole body parts even looked better...lol.. He even bragged about being impenetrable to bullets, shrapnel and whatnot.

How would you explain such miraculous ordeal. Is it Science, meta-physics or his believe in his spirituality?

Also, I've seen individuals who chew broken bottles while swallowing the remnants and there's not a single wound in the mouth region. I have seen a dude who breaks bottles on his head for entertainment and just the fun of it. I've seen people eat kindling charcoal and walk or stand of makeshift fire and there's not a single sign of burnt skin.

I have a video of this I recorded while testing this. It clean and intact bro. Let me confess this to ya.....the cutlass we used when testing this charm cut deep during the first test. I have the video too. We had to return this thing and the priest add some things of such which i dont understand to it. After that, we tested it with razor, no cut.....the guy was bold to eat and swallow razor, nothing happen. I was really scared and cant eat no matter what you give me....i wont eat razor blade. I bought another razor to confirm this over and over again but still same thing... .the guy was eating blade, blade do not cut through is skin. It was this that motivated us to record the video. I have the clip on my memory card and will try to upload it.

Seriously I dont have and cant explain this. The priest asked us to get just a leaf which is very common here. I dont know what other thing he added to this but what I know is that it work. Even though it have explaination, this priest though went to modern college or what is it called but not a university graduate that can know anything about physics or chemistry.

rationalmind: hmmm, good work bro. I'll work on it as well and let you know if i come up with anything. by the way, shey davidylan na scientist na.

I want trusted open minded person and not those who attribute everything to God.

wiegraf: Ah, you address nothing as usual. And to compound on that...










I recommend programming your doll to comprehend simple english from brainwashed "brainwashed wit heads". Actually, it already handles your reasoning for you...

One last time, just for effect

How does this answer the call fool? Pls bark somewhere else......or show us you human who want answers to your questions.

rationalmind: Got all you said bro. Just that i noticed your willingness to accept all other explanations but not supernatural.

Get this straight bro. I think what most call supernatural are things they cant explain. If you know the knowledge surrounding this, it becomes normal thing. Despite, everything in nature is super to me and deserve my respect.

Here is what I wrote on the bullets proof charm.

Bullets are generally made of lead with a copper casing. Both these metals are diamagnetic. When a diamagnetic substance moves through a magnetic field, it generates an opposing magnetic field. This will slow down and deflect the projectile. The stronger the field, the better it deflects. Using a superconductive wire to make a large coil, you could generate a strong enough field from a torch cell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction
4 fundamental forces... the link shows a chart with order of; Gravity -> Weak -> Magnetic -> Strong......Gravity is BY FAR the weakest of the four fundamental forces despite, our massive mass earth is pull and balance by this force. The electromagnetic force between, for example, two protons is something like 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times bigger than the gravitational attraction.

In fundamental interaction, magnetic forces are the second strongest. If this were true you can have magnetic levitation of big objects. Bullet is nothing in this case as enough electromagnetic forces can drop it or deflect it.

Here is another article related to Bullet proof juju...# http://nextbigfuture.com/2010/03/uk-reports-progress-to-electric-armor.html

This especially explain bulletproof juju if truely it produces electromagnetic forces.

Another one is http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_armour
Note: in the wikipedia link I gave, it stated there 'It is not public knowledge'.

The question now should be 'Could a practical electromagnetic "force field" be made'? Well A kevlar jacket already does this. the atoms in the jacket repel the atoms in the bullet without coming into contact using the electromagnetic force.
The problem now is how are we going to detect 'magnetic field' and it radiation on this charm?

Answer: If this charm is tested and proven perfect then there will be room for investigating physics and processes through which it work. Im not a scientist, do not know how to detect electromagnetic force or have apparatus for that but will appreciate it if scientist from Africa can employ their necessary apparatus and intelligence to rebuild our land. By this, in the nearest future, we gon be free from every oppressions. I dont think we should expect the west to tell us what and what to do. We got our own knowledge and resources.....we can make something out of it.

rationalmind: You mean a talking wood can be understood from the standpoint of physics or a person disappearing can be understood from the stand point of physics or african bullet proof can be understand from the standpoint of physics. I'm struggling to understand you.

I'm not saying these claims r true. I'm just saying, if true, I don't think physics can explain them.

Physics can explain it only if we observe it critically. Especially the bullet proof jazz, like I said, I am not versed in science so I only got tips on the subject. I dont know techniques or have apparatus for measuring electromagnetic radiation around this charm. But if it truth that this charm produces electromagnetic force, I am very sure the explanation would be easier. I will try and drop the tips I wrote about it here.

rationalmind: Lol, I think ure taking it too far. What is the herbal cure for gen.ital warts? What's the herbal cure for herpes? What is the herbal cure for cataract? You can glorify herbal medicines as much as you want but trying to discredit modern medicine (white man medicine as u prefer to call it) is what I don't agree with.

lol. Wtf? Which kind disease are these? Never heard of them.

To the best I know, herbs are working fine and that doesn't mean it should stop all diseases just like amalar pill cant stop malaria in this country once and for that. That doesn't mean we should discredit what belong to us for western medicine....

I was a good testimony for medicine when my right hand broke...that was when I was in 10. Doctors is the general hospital only ask for amputation and you know women are easy to be carried away with fear. Until my dad return from travell and transferred me to one traditionalist for the hand. What they did got me into lot of pains.....also the medicine just dont make sense to me but it work fine and perfect. Now my hand is working fine..... No operation, no lab or anything but work fine. I am not disputing or kicking against western medicine but the fact must be said about other continent medicine too.

feb242: Ok, let me save you the flight. Help me understand this? If Juju had so much power. Why aren't the fetish priests billionaire Wallstreet tycoons. If Juju had any truth to it the white oppressors would be the oppressed. No one would need weapons. Governments would just align themselves with powerful fetish priests & wage supernatural wars on one another. You attributes coincidence to supernatural occurrences & believed in imagination is very convincing, it's called hypnosis. Nigeria is suffering tremendously because of this while other developing countries like Singapore have eradicated malaria, became an economic power house all based on human ingenuity, a largely atheist society putting their priorities on progress, modernity & government accountability. These are the priorities Nigerians need to concern themselves with. Lack of Government transparency is a greater threat but as long as there is this distraction, corruption will continue.

Xti.....you want to save the flight after I expose the silliness in Randi bet with this escaping game? Here are the answers to your questions.

- money is not everything gaddem. Wande Abimbola was recognised in vatican with due respect. He is a Babalawo and got enough to feed himself. He even prayed to the pope......man shouldn't survive with money alone....power, respect and popularity works too.

- slavery is universal. Go and read about slavery in America so it nothing new. The defeat on Africa is that we were used against ourselves.....we are ourselves problem.

- Ogun is weapon and medicine . I dont know what the heck you saying.

- How many time will babalawo ask your politicians to start praying with local deities? You want them to put knife on politicians throat or what?

I didn't say anything is supernatural. Quit lying on me. Everything I see in nature is extremely super. You guys dont think with your heads when discussing with others. The numbers of malaria pill and vaccine stop malaria? Has the development in medical sector improve our life span? Yet your ancestors had made herbs and traditional medicines which work fine, do you use it? So why blaming them for your diseases? Note, we can only reduce it, you cant completely clear disease. Even your white men cant do that. Africans medicine is still the best as far as I know until you prove to me your white nonsense is better.

wiegraf: Where do I do that you mo.ron? What in this universe ever gave you the impression that I defend reincarnation in Buddhism? What exactly is wrong with you?




Who told you harris believes any of this nonsense? Are you so foo.lish you cannot grasp something so simple?? He subscribes to the philosophy, not the nonsense about walking around after birth..



Err, what the mess do I care what Darwin believes.

Kayi. Do you need some prophet to tell you how many times a day you're allowed to take a $hit? Believe it or not there are many of us around who can make up our own minds for ourselves. You reason like this yet you somehow think yourself an atheist??

Also, you seem to be looking for a god. Again, why in the world do you claim to be an atheist?





Folly, as usual, you're far too silly to spend much time on. Look at how many times you've made me use the word 'foo.l'.

To round this up I'll add I don't subscribe to rubbish, foreign or local. I obviously have more respect for people who respect their own local gods more than the jewish skydaddy, very commendable, but that in no way means I have to subscribe to their nonsense as well. Not at all.

Your folly puts us in danger, time and again. From invisible bullet proof belts that got us enslaved to juju that can make me run faster than ussein bolt. All the clowns that think they could slaughter another human being and suddenly blood money get their ideas from your nonsense, just as those xtians that kick their kids out of their homes for being witches get their ideas from xtianity. Whether you think that is truly your religion or not matters not, just as with xtians or muslims and their various factions; silly beliefs garner silly results. You base your philosophy around nonsense then who are you to claim their own version of ifa/etc is not the true version? If your nonsense claims are possible, why not theirs?

The most pervading problem sef is the case of those who do not do any work, rather they sit around waiting for juju to solve various problems and refuse to think. This is likely even worse than the blood rituals etc, which are perpetuated by just a minority. Same thing xtians do by wasting time praying, etc.

If you were simply extracting the useful bits of this philosophy, say the humanistic moral values and what not it'd be a different story, but that's clearly not what you're on about. You're no different from the xtians you deride, and the fundamental ones ie. Just as foo.lish. Also note clearly, secular xtians are a hell of a lot more reasonable then you, as would any secular believers of any of deities, local or otherwise.

What I do subscribe to is the scientific method, simple. Black, white, male, female, young, old, it does not discriminate. It doesn't even care about opinions, deny all you want but well, it's objectively verified. It powers the device you're using to read this post regardless of your m.oronic opinions, unlike your drivel. Please reply me, and everyone reading this post, using jazz. That would shut me up, no?

If anything could make me faster than ussein bolt, ie if it were even possible, it would be discovered in a lab somewhere. Explained coherently as well. Not by your babalawo and his 100N. Only a foo.l would think otherwise, history alone confirms that. But do enjoy your folly.

lol. Frustration from a militant nairaland atheist. So you got boiled been called fool? And what do you call me on this and other thread? Dont shed crocodile tears here.

Come out clean for the prove you ask for. Stop hiding in shame and poles against your brainwashed wit heads.

wiegraf: No, don't waste my time with you pure, refined dross. You deserve absolutely no, I repeat, NO respect. When you can confirm your claims then I'll take you seriously. Else, join the queue. I still have to read the koran fully, as apparently I cannot dismiss it as utter nonsense until I read the whole book for myself. I can't dismiss any claims that are obvious nonsense it seems. Actually, going by your mo.ronic reasoning, nor can you, see?

bla bla bla sheep...have you any wool?

wiegraf: I do know about talking dolls, invisible bullet proof vests and running faster than bolt. They are all....surprise surprise... impossible. Except to, of course, gullible, foo.lish monkeys like you. I hope that's clear. I hope you don't expect no challenges when you make asinine claims like these, else I think you're in the wrong place.

Now, you show me how any of these things are not nonsense rather than claim some esoteric knowledge or you shut up. You may not have noticed that you and @folly have not addressed any single meaningful criticism yet, yes? So, I'm waiting.

Let me just reiterate, baboons like you deserve no, absolutely NO respect for perpetuating your unadulterated drivel. If you were extracting the useful bits from this, just as secular xtians use 'love thy neighbor' and ignore the rest, it would be a different story (admirable even), but alas that's not the case.

And if you think my not knowing the intricacies of your nonsense amounts to anything to me, well, you may be confused. I don't know those of Islam or xtianity as well, and I'm quite proud of it. Again, I'm not going to waste my time on your drivel, get in line. Wtf do you think are?

The call is there for you to answer for ground on debunking it. Just answer and stop ranting.

You asked for prove and this is a call. Where is your physical prove of reincarnation in buddhism you were arguing in support of? And when are you going to tell us about hausa spirituality? Foolish noisemaker

free2ryhme: Una no see beta name na babalawo ( native doctor ) na oracle giver una d code take write dis pRogramme ? I am cerrtain the programme has a babalawo lineage

babalawo mean the father who practise mysticism or father who have esoteric knowledge.

There is nothing like native doctor....that is white man tool to destroy our social and spiritual structure.

feb242: As a jazz musician & atheist I admit that much of the knowledge I acquired regarding improvisation can be traced to African traditional beliefs of posession & music. I think yoruba belief should be celebrated & studied as a rich heritage. However, supernatural belief is still a deal breaker for us. I encourage you to investigate every supernatural claim & if you can truly verify that the miracle occured, the james randi foundation is offering 1 million dollars to anyone who can substantiate a supernatural claim. So don't post it here, go there & then cash in on your supernatural claim.


http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

Randi is as foolish as the people bringing it up. I have checked on this site and applied too. So you want me to fly to US with a typed letter for posting, record video and wait till another six month for processing. After that you fly in and out of America for screening and others before the final challenge. Can you finance flying to America pls? I dont know where some people keep their brain when discussing with others.

rationalmind: I read about it n was amazed at the striking similarities. But then, there is a way we can verify its the osanyin talking and not someone playing tricks. We can totally isolate the osanyin whilst inspecting it thoroughly ensuring there's no recorded stuff playing in it.

They are scared of Osanyin.....just like kid scared of bullman.

They are free to investigate and verify there points but non can come forward for that. Smh for this childishness and cowardice

Mr Troll: You didn't answer any of my questions.

Your answer to the call hold all answers to your question. It is in Ghostsparta call bag......answer the call and pick answers for yourself. How can you argue on something you dont know? This is a call for you to know it first....answer it.