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I wish Baba Ijebu can host a game on the number of years this crooks will spend in jail. People will make large from the game.

I believe Badeh will spend nothing less than 20years in jail and most of his properties forfeited

viviangist3:
Holy Ghost Fire !!!!

I got fire extinguiser here lady.

Pls start today, post goodnews related update

Viviangist3 is fond of creating tragedy thread.

Vivian is a devil

Boko-haram sponsor in Ondo state and the Sunshine state is set on fire.

mustymatic:
You are anti-English

You are not making any sense either.

Sane peep will rather correct me.

Saraki and is irks are working round the government to run down the government. They can bring it on, the bad blood will run kirikiri and kuje prison, serving as the president there and commisioners come 2019

Where are Ekiti ans Edo women. They should held a nak.ed protest against NASS. These folks are anti-women

The vessels were bought from oils stolen from busted pipeline in Esravos. The govt should sieze all his properties.

This will send a signal to those who are evicting hard labour for militancy. The govt is not going to feed anyone fat because they choose to carry gun and threaten life

No pictures?

Then it didnt happen

Habakus:
You're the one lying to yourself. Where did i say that Boko haram has been COMPLETELY DEFEATED? Read what i wrote again and then reason if the Fg has told us that many times or not.

Didnt you say the Govt told you and your fellow IPADs that boko haram has been defeated?

Licence of any Power distributors who is not serving Nigerians enough should be withdrawn. They are nothing but saboteurs.

Someone should pls inform Ondo State government that there has been no light in Odigbo LGA, Okitipupa LGA, Ese-odo LGA and Irele LGA for the past two years. Some people were complaining about 4days blackout but here in Ondo state, there is total black out for good two years with no possibility of hope coming our way.

Habakus:
I didn't even bother reading the whole post since it's about promises. They tell us Boko Haram has been defeated,only for people who are dumb enough to go back there to be counted as casualties. Nigerians should know better than to live based on the promises of this government.

Stop lying to yourself. Who told you boko haram has been completely defeated?

obailala:
High nutrient hybrid grass seedlings are to be imported and planted in the reserves. The grasses are not being imported for the cows to eat.

The local grass the ranchers in Ondo state - Akure to be specific do not contain nutirents?

What about the hays goat seller buy from farmers?

Mr we should discourage anything like importation. I just hate spending money on stuff which can be produced locally. Grass are everywhere in the south.

lekkie073:
24 months.....
enuf time for fulani herdsmen to wipe out the entire middlebelt region

When others are seeing peaceful co-existence and business opportunity, you are here looking for inter tribal war.

Your mates will become billionares by planting grasses. Some will become billionares importing grass. Some will become billionaire selling herbivorous plants or feed or anything the cows can feed on other than grass. Some will become billionaires selling lands for ranchers.

But you want to become a loser of inter tribal war. Best of luck buddy in your vision

I hate the importation of grass part. For f.uck sake we have large reserved land which can be use for planting of grasses for the cows. Those selling goat, sheep and horses in the south western state buy dry hay from the market and it is enough for all the animals kept in store for sales.

The period of 18 months is long enough for us to have a field where grass would be planted to feed cows. Those ranches in Ogun and Ondo state do not import grasses but source them from surroundings, buying at cheap cost and improving the income of some local grass sources. Importation will only take our money to foreign countries. Job opportunities will be thrown to foreign nations. And our farmers will be left to increases the riches of other countries.

Government should separate some pieces of land in every state where people who have interest in planting grass can use at a token price. This will in another round provide opportunity for wealth creation.

I will not believe in this crook link

psucc:
I have a thought.

How comes that all the investigations carried out only carry the names of those left in PDP even when it is obvious that most of the 'saints' in APC made a last minute crossover.

What do you expect? That party like ACN or APGA should be investigated? Put reigned for 16yrs and EFCC is only investigating them. Not that EFCC concentrate only on the federal staffs. . .and since PDP members are the only perpetrators, they have to answer questions regarding their past deed.

macof:
see this man sha. . I wanted to give a lengthy rebuttal to all this nonsense but you not worth the time

Abeg leave matter for mathias

Rilwayne001:
Cc macof folykaze

I dont know who existed first o.

But Oduduwa is the one that first descended on Ogun chains down to earth.

MrAnony1:
Thanks for your response. Please could you continue by answering the questions following i.e. If nature is not intelligent, then how do you explain the existence of complex functional systems such as are goats?

Complex functional systems only exist in our thought. The system is what it is. . .vibrations and frequencies.

Thought is simply a relation of matter with matter, and is neither different nor superior to the hurtling of atoms against each other. This is a shock of material imparts creating vibration and reactions to matter. I see nothing complex in this than our mind making a mountain from nothing. The complexity is illusion.

On a short note, nature is the phenomena of material existence. This is include the sum of power, properties, the cause (birth) and essense of an existence.


As per if Nature is intelligent has to do with how we define intelligence. Intelligence has to do with salience and capacity of reasoning things out. . .and in particular, there is need for a brain. There is no evidence to show that nature is intelligent.

Naomite:
U clearly needs Devine understanding! I won't judge u or defend God cos who am I 2 judge u or defend d great mosthigh
All I will say is that, may he reveal himself 2 u and u'll will see how great and mighty he is and when dat time comes, may it never b too late and I pray he grant u his infinite mercy.
Shalom!

Thank. Now you can take your bullsh i t out of here.

You shouldnt have get near the waterside if you do not want to get wet.

Naomite:
What re u saying
Islam and Christianity aint from Europe. I don't know of Islam. But the God I serve is evidently ain't a dead God. And his name is "THE I AM THAT I AM" u can check ur bible 2 reminisce
Shalom!

The useless I YaM that I yam that cannot defeat human soldiers because they had Chariot of Iron or the one see Boko Haram slaughering your people like goat up North and do nothing to help?

Tocheagle:
My smart phone is smarter than d so called african gods . What do u expect frm broke deities that eat palmoil and kola frm ugly plates placed by the corner of a street .

There is nothing we expect from a dead Jew hung on a tree that couldnt wake up and save his Children been blown into pieces by Boko-Haram.

I guess Buhari was right asking you Christians wha you have done against the insurgency than make noise and cry to your dead God who hears you not.

SSpeter:
When I see people saying they are practising African traditional religion I begin to wonder what class of fools they belong to...these are some of the reasons why I believe they are useless

The topic attracted me. The introduction of the OP contain lot of flaws. ATR is not a religion like the christianity or Islam where you worship some non-existing God. God in ATR are simply natural phenomenon, natural forces and energy. The spiritual tenacity of ATR has to do with the inter-connectedness between these forces and individual person. The act of connecting with natural forces is praticed universally in Europe, Caribbean, Asia and North America.

However, the reason why I mentioned that ATR is different from Christianity and Islam is because there is absence of superiority fight. ATR has not claimed to be the best or tagged Asian spirituality been the worst.

SSpeter:
1 African gods didn't live to their expectations when our lands were invaded by the whites. We were conquered by foreigners in our own land. The whites came uninvited yet these gods stood like morons and zombies until its faithful became second class citizens in their own land.....what were the gods thinking? why didn't the gods act? Were they also scared of gun powder? Nonsense!!!

I am well pleased you said African Gods. Even if Europeans conquered most of African nations, it is on record that Ethiopia was not defeated. Ethiopia has traditional religion just like we do in the far west. In their Oromo traditional religion, they will give praises to Waaq from not making them fall. Italy was resoundly defeated and pushed back with their super firearm.

You should read about the Barbary slave trade where millions of white Christian Europeans were enslaved in North Africa by Africans. Was Christian God sleeping were his people were enslaved? Did Jesus bleeded to coma?

SSpeter:
2. African gods are just as lazy as africans. If an African man enters the shrine without cleaning the gods strikes him with madness and death...yet those same gods were mopping when lugard et al trespassed all the sacred places even drank beer and roasted chicken in shrines...where were the gods? we're they scared of the europeans? What about the sacrifices offered to the gods (human sacrifice et al) the whtie stopped all these nonsense yet the so called gods did not complain...where were ifa, amadioha, sango, ogun etc when the invaders looted their so called place of abode?

I dont understand where you are taking this superiority battle to. Is Church not a clubbing hall today? The holy house of God is turned to mosque, boko haram waste live in Jos. House of the most high was set on fire. . .even the government ban and close down churches. Is your God dead or asleep when all these were happening in his holy santuary?

The act of sacrificing human life for a God is present in Christianity. Christianity did begin with human sacrifice. . .Jesus is human and was indeed sacrifed.

SSpeter:
3. This is reason is why I believe Africans served dead gods. The head of the benin gods and other spiritual artifacts are displayed openly and shamelessly in European museums yet the gods don't understand. If the perpetrators were black I am sure the gods will strike them and their generations yet they couldn't do poo because the perpetrators were white.....

Idols are material representation of ATR Gods. This does not mean the Idols taken away are the same thing as the Gods.

A coin represent the value of a money. The value is the abstract entity called money and not the metalic coin.

Now what you called Gods are mere artifacts or material representaion of a God which can be displayed anywhere be it museum or on the street just like the Cross.

Jesus cruxification crown is dislpayed in the museum. A crosss believed to be the one Jesus died on is displayed in the museum. Seamless robe of Jesus are everywhere. So what is special here?

Simply google Christians relic in display in different museum and you will be shocked how your Jesus a s s is exposed in galleries

macof:
says the guy who has it in against Ijaws and Igbos

dude stop being a hypocrite

See this tribalist and religion bigot calling me hypocrite?

I have no hate for Ijaws and Igbos. I am advocating for peaceful Co-existence and not sentimental moves like Sabotage, civil unrest and secession noise Ijaw and Igbo are displaying. Afterall lot of them are my friends.

You are the hypocritical, double faced fela I have ever known. You today lash hard on the Christians for worshipping a tribalistic god who choose Jew only all to exhibit your hatred on Hausa/Fulanis.

You are such a wicked hypocrite who sing praise and part the back of pagan9ja while you are on the second round hating his tribe.

Hatred will not take you or anyone anywhere. Desist from it dude.

Democracy is dulling. I wish we are in Asian country like North Korea

Can this felas calm down and read the report?

Totalman1:
I feel very ashamed when I see people replying to issues based on tribal or religious sentiments. It's really a pity.
Young people should be more objective about issues that affect us all as a nation and not be defending these corrupt politicians because if their ethnic or religious inclinations.
Wether Wailers, Zombies, Ipobians or Ypodians, lets come together as ONE &,defeat these crooks in Power!
This can be achieved by our collective will and strategic actions.
I BELIEVE IN US!

I wish Macof can get some bitter truth and sense out of this small pieces.

macof:
this guy just likes argument.


is it not wise to learn from your flaws and that of others?
The Igbos who were always in alliance with the north found that they aren't people to have as political allies .... a sensible yoruba man will pick a lesson from this

You indeed have passion for Yoruba nation but you are guided with false informations. I think you should read some books dude. All along, you are not sincere with your argument.

On the first note, the Igbo forced themselve on the Hausa/fulani North and by theirselve put an end to the alliance by killing Alhaji Abubakar Tafawa-Balewa. The coup that took the life of Tafa and the Sardauna of Sokoto was led by Nzeogwu of Eastern Nigeria origin. The major actors were four Igbo origins. The coupist were made of junior officers who saw some act of corruption in the nation but all that was simply palmed face excuse because there operation leds to the elimination of majorly Hausa and Yoruba leaders. In this course, they left their own (leaking info to Azik) to escape to caribean.

Akintola was killed, he was a Yoruba leader. Tafa was killed, he was a Hausa leader. Other people killed were Alhaji Ahmadu Bello, Chief Festus Okotie-Eboh; the wife of Ademulegun, Mrs. Lateefat; the wife of the then Premier of Northern Nigeria, Hafusat; Zarumi Sardauna, the Senior Assistant on Security to the then Premier, Ahmed Ben Musa and the Government Driver to the then Premier, Ahmed Pategi.

The coup according to Achebe was tagged an Igbo coup against North. Even from the handling of the issue aftermath the coup indicates that there is tribal undertoning to the coup. They even installed Ironsi shey.

And you want us to allie with the east who backstabbed their former ally?

You want us to ally with the east who took civil war to us?

You want us to ally with a hegemonic hearted tribe?

The regional system of goverment which you thrived on was thwarted by them. And you still want us to follow them?

They have not ally with you, your land is no mans land. . .they want to dominate in your backyard and rule your house. What would be the implication if you ally with them?

At what point in history did Yoruba allied with the east? What was the implication? Why do you think if we allied with them things would be better than it is now?

Lot of questions are been raised. . .can you pls provide just answer to it?

Everything was going just fine and some Igbo put an end into it.


Alhaji Abubakar Tafawa-Balewa, the country’s first and only Prime Minister had been killed on duty on January 15, 1966. His successor, Maj-Gen. Thomas Aguiyi-Ironsi, the first military Head of Government, was also killed on duty on July 29, 1966. Gen. Gowon, who ruled for nine eventful years. Gen. Gowon’s successor, Gen. Murtala Ramat Muhammed, was also killed on duty on February 13, 1976.

I was listening to Ogunde song sometimes ago and my wife ask a question. She asked why Ogunde rained curses on Dimka because he killed Muritala. She was very curious about why Ijebus love an Hausa man Muritala, why they solidarily rain curses on Dimak who killed him. Why the Yoruba parapo cursed Dimka. Afterall he is not our son. We didnt show much this kind of love to Abiola. So macof, why? There lies your answer to Yoruba-North ally.

macof:
The Afonja who politically allied with the north, found out that the north aren't people to have as political allies. ... a sensible yoruba man will pick a lesson from this
Obj Atiku, was a wasted period for yorubas despite having an Owu man as President, Every Yoruba in 1999 knew Falae would have made a better president over a Yoruba/Northern alliance

Thanks for admitting 8yrs from 16 yrs reign of PDP is wasted. Even if the 16yrs is a waste, admiting OBJ tenure was poor sound good.

In the case of Afonja, blame your son for selling your property. I dont blame whites for slavery, I blame us for selling our people. Same applies with Afonja.

macof:
All through the previous republics and even to a large extent, the Military regimes. ..yoruba stood alone politically in opposition to the rest of Nigeria. .. yet we were the most sophisticated people, had the most developed region, least poverty and illiteracy and wealthiest personalities

so how exactly is political alliance with the north an intelligent move?

it would do you well to take out your personal Romance out of political discussion

Which opposition? We voted for Obasanjo. we voted for Yaradua. Yoruba activist saw Jonathan becoming President after Yaradua death. We voted massively for GEJ in 2011. And we voted same GEJ out when he marginized us, here we have Buhari.

I see us as key player and not opposition. We are fared all along because we are key players and not opposition..

Get your fact right

macof:
Yes I am Pan-Yoruba and I say political alliance with FELLOW southerners is far more profitable for Yoruba nation than anything from the north. ..obviously in ur shallow mind this is hate speech but this is only rational thinking. ..considering the flaws of every political alliance Yoruba have had with northerners. ..from the afonja era till now. ...silly Yorubas will not hear. ..especially the Muslim ones

And this another nothing but senseless argument.

There is something called ethnicity and alliance. At what point in history did Yoruba allied with the east? What was the implication? Why do you think if we allied with them things would be better than it is now?

Answers to those question is what you should provide. It will do better than the fantasy benefit which can ever come from West-East Alliance you are advising.

In history, the east thwarted everything they have to with west and formed ally with the North until things fall apart and see everyone as their enemy thereby cornerning theirselve in the jungle.

Maybe you can tell us about west/east alliance in the past, what we gained and what before it. Let us make the discussion educative.


You dont dare go to Afonja war. It was son who sold your people to the North to dominate your land. So Afonja should take the whole blames and not Hausa.

macof:
Yes I'm only concern about how the Yoruba nation would strive. ..not how individual Yoruba men become vice president or senate president or even president. ... GEJ marginalized Yorubas? how is the life of the common Yoruba man in Osogbo better now that A Yoruba man is vice president and a Yoruba man of Fulani origin is Senate president?

Your agenda cannot fly in Yoruba land. This is why Obasanjo has higher hand than Falae.

OBJ was the president of this nation, voted into power by the Yoruba backed by the North.

macof:
what's all this rants? where do I start from? most this is just bullpoo.
dude stop acting like you know me. .
I'm supporting asari? I'm supporting Gani Adams. .. do you take me for a puppet who doesn't have his own cognizance? must I follow someone before I think to know good or bad?

Mr I know you as Macof who have shown great support for Afenifere and the PDP militia group called OPC. I know how you support Gani, Fasheun, Falae, GEJ and extensive armed brother in Niger Delta like Asari. Stop hiding in sheep clothing. . .we know you are a tribal wolf.

macof:
address my short words and stop talking about things I never mentioned and giving long yarns just to seem intelligent to the gullible

This is the best you can come up with after your baseless lies have been shredded? You have no genuie reason hating on Hausa/Fulani, you have no point hating on Buhari. . . .your said points are baseless. You are just a tribal bigot.

macof:
pls o pls, there's a huge difference between Tribalism and Ethnic divide. ... Nigeria itself is already multi ethnic. ..there's ur divide...u don't expect a sane Hausa man to act all brotherly to a random Igbo over his fellow Hausa man. . it's simple human psychology. ..it's how we have survived till date...it's not hatred but looking out for oneself, northerners have after all given reasons for a typical Igbo or Yoruba to watch out. ..apparently the Yoruba nation is not as sophisticated and intelligent as we were under the Great Awo

Your argument is full of flaws.

Ethnicity has to do with identifying with people who share common ancestry, cuture and tradition. The fact that there is multi-facet ethnic group is what brought about what we know as CO-EXISTENCE under a political nation.

South Africa contain diversed Race ad multiple ethnic group. . .they are Africa economy power house because they choose to Co-exist.

India is made up of different ethnic group, races, and religion in there hundreds. They are making strenous effort to become technological world giant because they co-exist.

America is today the most diversed with different ethnic, nationality, race, religion. . .they are today world power because they choose to co-exist.

Every Nation in the world contain different ethnic group; the cruise of the matter is peaceful coexistence.

However, what you are show casing here is not peaceful co-existence among ethnic group in Nigeria. You are looking for ethnic divides, promoting ethno-centricism and hegemony. You are spearheading tribalism.

How about breaking the whole matter into three elements. Tomorrow, we will break it further to atom whereby Egba will attack Oyo and Ijebu will agitate for secession. History will always repeat itself.

In real politics, there is something called Alliance. There is no permanent friend/enemy but interest of the people. Baba Awo extended his hand to the Igbo for the alliance which they are not ready for. Awo had to take his hand to the North Sardauna of NPC.

Sardauna of Sokoto and Obafemi Awolowo used to be good friends. They visited each other and sardauna even adopted some policies of Awo. The North was never interested in partnering with Zik, NCNC, or the Igbos just as they did not wish to part Awo back in return. So it is the North-west game which the East played themselves out.

While Zik and the Eastern region were embroiled over the Prof Eyo Ita and the six sit-tight ministers, Awolowo and Sardauna continued to strengthen their alliance. The first branch of AG outside the Western region was formed in Kano on 4th October 1952.

The great Awo allied with the North which you, Afenifere and OPC are hating today. What a evil hegemonic. The North received AG in their political terrain but old thieving and heavily corrupt Falae led Afenifere are paying back with hatred.

macof:
if Africa had sensible leaders, we would have long reconstructed all these colonial boarders

You have not managed your region to any standard yet with OPC and Afenifere. Pls do that first.

macof:
the man threatened didn't he? he spew violent words out of his mouth to scare people didn't he? oh pls show a little shame and stop defending a man who will do anything for power even instigate killings. .yet has nothing to offer. ... a year is approaching now nothing to show for it

The man did not incite any trouble. Trouble brews because PDP rigged election. The statement you atributed to him is a balant lie.

Yes he is doing some ground work, trying to fix what you have destroyed for the past 16 years. We lived with no new roads, no new education, health and economic scheme for 16 years. And you are expecting him to fix 16 years problem within 8months. Are you for real?