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TheGoodJoe:
Why make a funny joke out of a simple explanation?

Simple, a Child born and starting his early days of football in Rosario, Argentina will play differently from a child born and playing early on the beach of Brazil.

This is a very simple point.

joseph1013:
Okay...we have agreed that Mikel will never allow us concede goals. Please how will we score goals? With a good defense, we may be guaranteed to have three goalless draws which gives 3 points. Unfortunately, 3 points won't take us out of the group stage.

TheGoodJoe:

When Arsene Wenger saw him, he was brilliant. That was not English development that attracted Iwobi to Wenger. Simple.

TheGoodJoe:

Having the opportunity to cap him does not mean he will play for us. We have asked the likes of Adarabioyo, Ibe, Aina and it was not given to us. So how can you believe a player who changed his Nigerian surname would be given to us.

As for Otigba, his allegiance is with us and he will get his chance soon.

Where is Iwobi? Capped by us.

TheGoodJoe:

Do you rate English talents highly?

Even in the Etihad Campus, Devante Cole, Andy Cole's son complained about the City coaches rating the Foreign talents better than them.

Note, Alaba is not English talent.

TheGoodJoe:

That early stage and influence plays a lot in talent. A player born in Brazil playing on the pitch with a lot of creative players will definitely have a different style of play with a player born in England playing technical football.

TheGoodJoe:

Iwobi is Nigerian born. The bolded talked about their development structure, right? So why are you talking horn skills.

Icon4s is talking about Natural talent. No horning the natural talent.

Arsenal signed Iwobi based on the talent they saw when he arrived from Nigeria. Not from what he horned in England.

TheGoodJoe:


Ross Barkley changed his surname from Effanga. Whether we approached him early or not. I doubt he would ever have chosen us over England.

If we do not approach, many will say NFF faults.

As I said before. If anyone wants to play, the best step is to pledge allegiance. We are even going far approaching and getting turned down.

TheGoodJoe:


Iwobi is Nigerian born.

Icon4s:
Firstly, they are the ones that segregate themselves by saying things like "I feel English blood flowing through my veins", "i have a dream of playing for the three lions" bla-bla-bla. Ola Aina and Adarabioye jst recently pledged their allegiance to England and u expect us to keep hoping on such players? Or we should send Buhari and Saraki to go beg them?

U said no Nigerian player is half as talented as Dele Alli, Ross Barkley & the likes. Are u for real?

Well, Kelechi Iheanacho has the record of the highest ever goals ratio (goals/min) in the entire EPL history. Neither of Dele Alli, Ross Barkley nor Jodon Ibe comes close.

Did you see a player named Alexander Iwobi play for Arsenal last season? A player that sent Theo Walcott and Oxlade Chamberlain permanently to d bench. Dele Alli, Sheyi Ojo, Jodon Ibe and Ross Barkley are nt even Arsenal materials.

In terms of goals scoring did any of Alli,Ojo, Barkley or Ibe come near Odion Ighalo?

You also forget that Victor Moses is a Nigerian


Come 2016/2017 season u will see the likes of Isaac (the beast) Success, Ahmed Musa and Kelechi Nwakali join the Super list of the Super Nigerian talents in the EPL.

Then this David Alaba u are always mentioning are u saying we have never produced a better player than him. The guy is now an Austrian. Forget him and lets focus on the ones we still have the opportunity of switching their natiomality.

In as much as I am happy some of them have pledged allegiance to Nigeria I will nt wail if any of them snubs Nigeria. Simple.

Icon4s:
Me, I personally dnt rate English players that highly.They only have good development structure. The individual talent is hardly there.

Look at all of them Dele Alli and Ross Barkley how dey flopped at d Euros.

forgiveness:
Bros, so you mean Naija blood is no longer running in their veins because they were born abroad?

How many home grown players do we have self that is half talented than Dele Alli, Ross Barkley, Sheyi Ojo and David Alaba?

forgiveness:
How many home grown players do we have self that is half talented than Dele Alli, Ross Barkley, Sheyi Ojo and David Alaba?.

Joniboi:
Barring any last minute change, head coach of the Nigeria U-23s Samson Siasia has submitted a list of 19 players that will represent Nigeria at the Rio 2016 Olympics.

The list of 19 players has one player in as standby although the name of the player wasn’t mentioned but the move we gathered was done by the coach to make up for any disappointment that could come from any of the expected foreign based in the team.

Daniel Akpeyi
Emmanuel Daniel
Sincere Seth
Kenneth Omeruo
Stanley Amuzie
William Troost Ekong
Saturday Keigo Erimuya
Erhun Obanor
Mikel Obi
Azubuike Okechukwu
Ogenekaro Etebo
Usman Mohammed
Shehu Abdullahi
Stanley Dimgba
Aminu Umar
Imoh Ezekiel
Taiwo Awoniyi
Junior Ajayi
Sadiq Umar

TheGoodJoe:

NFF suspended Victor Moses. So no way there.

Napoleon55:
I rate Eto higher than George Wear,just my opinion. And Babayaro did make African footballer of the year top 10 during his playing days,I'm not quite sure of the year,but I'm very sure he was nominated for APOTY top 10 once or twice

tbaba1234:
Ighalo is also out..

Siasia is going with Mikel and Akpeyi as over-aged..

Siasia should be calling replacements for these players.

tbaba1234:
Musa Muhammad has been stopped from the Olympics by the same club that does not even play him..
http://africanfootball.com/news/633620/Turkish-club-stop-Musa-Mohammed-from-Rio-Olympics

NFF is not doing enough. I think a first round exit is assured at this point. Getting to the second round will be a good tournament.

Icon4s:
That is one trade mark of the English press. They hype English groomed players alot.

If Iheanacho had been a son of the soil in England by now they would have likened him to another Maradona.

Me, I personally dnt rate English players that highly.They only have good development structure. The individual talent is hardly there.

Look at all them Delle Alli & Ross Barkly how dey flopped at d Euros.
See also how Nathan Oduwa of Tottenham Hotspurs performed below expectation at d U23 camp.

When Jodon "Aib" chosed to play for England i personally cared less. We have more talented home raised teenagers rising up d laders.

I join u in wishing him the best in life.

TheGoodJoe:
Jordon Ibe has completed his £15m transfer from Liverpool to Bournemouth.

Ibe had a medical at the south coast club on Wednesday and will now fly out to Chicago to join up with their pre-season training camp in the United States, having signed a four-year contract.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11743/10501885/jordon-ibe-completes-16315m-transfer-from-liverpool-to-bournemouth

I guess, Hybe was not all the Hype after all. Only flexing muscle for Nigeria.

Wish the young man the best.

Napoleon55:
We talking 'bout Taiwo not Messi,nevertheless I rate Eto higher than George Wear. What do u think is the reason why some find it difficult to rate Messi ahead of Pele or even Maradona.
And how many Ballon d'or has taiwo won to start with

Napoleon55:
This Taiwo vs Baba arguments is annoying,
Simply put this way,what has taiwo achieved for Nigeria to b considered the Nigeria's greatest'

But as for Baba,check.
NIGERIA:
FIFA U-17 World Cup: 1993
Olympic Gold Medal: 1996
Atlanta 96 football event,tournament's all-star team.
These 2 trophies alone eclipse every other individual honors Taiwo might have won.

CLUB:
Belgian Young Professional Footballer of the Year: 1994-95
Belgian Young Professional Footballer of the Year: 1995-96
Belgian First Division: Winner 1994–95
Belgian Supercup: Winner 1995
Chelsea
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: Winner 1997–98
UEFA Super Cup: Winner 1998
FA Cup: Winner 1999–2000

TheGoodJoe:
Chelsea was rated higher than Marseille from Babyaro till Taiwo's time. The EPL was rated higher than The Ligue 1 all through Celestine to Taiwo's career.

Stop dragging the argument with stories. I have shown you the club ratings. It is not my fault if you do not like it.

If you want to continue living in your dream world that Taiwo is better than Babayaro, you are free.

TheGoodJoe:

As I said, relying on strictly stats does not tell the story. You just put Flo as a 300,000 pounds attacker but Flo was bigger than that. He was a fine attacker and he was the lead striker of Norway.

There was a time Brazil did a tour before France 98 World Cup and tore teams to shreds. Back then, Romario was still in the squad. During that period, Roberto Carlos was the second best player in the World and scored some fantastic free kicks.

Tore Andre Flo and Ole Gunnar Solksjaer were part of the team who beat that great Brazilian team before the World Cup. I think the score line ended 4-2. The Norwegians put four past the World Champions and World Cup favorite. That drew a lot of respect for the Norwegians, Flo and Solksjaer.

Before Roman took over running Chelsea, Ranieri, current Leicester City Coach was the head Coach of Chelsea and he led Chelsea to the Semi Final of the Champions League and finished second in the EPL table.

Chelsea was a team with top Stars. Running posts can not change it. During Babayaro's stay at Chelsea, it was a higher rated club than Marseille and attracted bigger Stars than Marseille.

When we talk of Desailly, Dennis Wise, Graeme Le Saux, Babayaro, Geremi, Weah, Zola, Poyet, Crespo, Petit, Flo, Hasselbaink, and many more. These were respected names. Marseille could not boast of it.

Saying that Babayaro joined a small club is funny because it was a movement that begun. Babayaro was a big part and stayed all through. Chelsea went up from there. Babayaro was part of the Chelsea team that beat Real Madrid to the Super Cup. He was part of the team that reached the Champions League Semi Finals. He was part of the team that finished second Under Ranieri.

Babayaro = Legend.

Taiwo did not and never reached that level. During Babayaro's time until Taiwo's time, the French Ligue one were not up to the EPL in competition and is not till today.

So you are still trying to fight against the truth. Taiwo did not come close to Celestine's level in football.

There is a reason why there is Baba in Babayaro.

Icon4s:
In the absence of Iheanacho, Success and Iwobi i feel we now really need d experience of Ighalo in that attack. I dnt have confidence in the crop of attackers available for selection.

Icon4s:
Simon is out.

As disappointing as it may seem Stanley Dimgba is abt the only recognised natural winger in that team.

Yes Umar. Aminu Umar is another good Am/striker but he is nt a natural winger same goes for Imoh. Sisia would nt want to field non-wingers in both and left and right wings.

I have seen Imoh do well severally on the left wing.
The Right wing is where i have nt seen any descent player apart from Dimgba. Aminu Umar can play in the number 10 positon while Imoh plays as a LWF

Petrobros:
Bravo!

Little wonder you are called the First Lady here.
I can see you feel much better now.

My respect goes to you. Not every1 has d courage to do what you have done.

I am also happy Sir forgiveness has accepted the apologies.

That is the spirit.

And what ever u are going through may God strenghten u and see you through.

So Ola u have nt been to Atani in 14yrs!
Seun must hear this.

safarigirl:
it's been a stressful 3 days, so I've been temperamental and harsh. I apologise if I came off that way @ forgiveness

I haven't been to Atani in 14 years, that's not likely to change this year

safarigirl:
icon4s abeg no dey encourage rubbish. It's not funny, it's annoying and pathetic.

Forgiveness please stop these blind arguments, they make you look like a twelve year old boy trying to tell his 70-year old grandpa facts of the civil war.

It's a sorry sight and i'm honestly tired of your diaper arguments. The seniors may find your antics funny, but that should make you worried because that means nobody is even taking you seriously. Your arguments are in vain if no one is taking them seriously

Icon4s:
Note that Moses Simon is out as his club has refused his release.


Pending when d final list would be out this is my prefred set up:

......................Akpeyi

Musa..Omeruo..Troost-Ekong..Madu

.............Azubuike
.............................Mikel


Dimgba..........Etebor.........Imoh

...................Ighalo.


In d absence of Ighalo my attack would b set up in this form:

Dimgba.......Popoola.....Etebor

...................Imoh.

Mtchew. This team looks too average sef

Icon4s:
All these are part of public sector bureacracy and tussle for power and importance.

They will settle las las no worry.

terzurum5:
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SHOCKING! Minister unaware Nigeria Olympic team in US
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Nigeria Olympic team coach Samson Siasia


Nigerian sports minister has dropped a bombshell after he told a press briefing he was not aware the country’s Olympic team are training in the United States of America ahead of next month’s Rio Olympics.

The Olympic team led by coach Samson Siasia have raised alarm they have been abandoned in the USA by the authorities.


And sports minister Solomon Dalung has further laid credence to this claim when he said he did not know the team are training for the Rio Olympics in Atlanta.


“The issue of our U23 national team suffering in the United States of America is news to me. In fact I am hearing it from you (the media) for the first time,” Dalung stunned the reporters.


“They (Dream Team VI) didn’t tell us what they were there for and who took them there. It doesn’t mean that if somebody goes to the market and has problem then you will come and ask the ministry (of Youths and Sports). The question is who took them there? And what are they there for?

“Because they are U23 national team and they went to the US and they are having problems, does that become our business?


“When they were travelling to US from your information, were you told we that we were informed? Before you (the media) asked us to account for something you should know whether we were aware of it.


“So, if somebody has a birthday of his friend and he moves his team to go and play (there) you cannot come back to ask me to account for it. If they are throwing them out of the hotel (in the US), then they should know who took them there.


“They supposed to be given a letter approving they are travelling from the minister’s office. Then if they ask me I will tell you that I approved it and this is the reason.

‘So, what is happening in the US (as regards the U- 23 national team) maybe it is a story you (the media) are telling me”.

http://africanfootball.com/news/633406/SHOCKING-Minister-unaware-Nigeria-Olympic-team-in-US
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forgiveness:
L

I intentionally didn't include Oruma but I also followed him wella.

There is nothing like wiki skills I followed Marseille matches wella.

There was an era Olympics Marseille will bet Chelsea to a transfer market wella.

There was an era Olympics Marseille was bigger than Chelsea.

There was an era Olympics Marseille was rated highly than Chelsea.

All these was before the billionaire bought the club in 2004.

During Celestine Babayaro era at Chelsea, Chelsea was a small club in England and in Europe. Nobody knew Chelsea fc.

Chelsea became a bigger club after Celestine Babayaro left the the club in 2004.

So, there was no stars ever in Olympics Marseille?

Celestine Babayaro tried but he never wore a Jersey with a star.

You call him Baba but CAF called Taye Taiwo the one time CAF young player of the year.

TheGoodJoe:


So you believe in your heart that in 1999 when Chelsea had the likes Desailly and Andre Flo that Marseille would beat Chelsea to a player. Come on. The EPL was smashing transfer records.

Chelsea could secure the likes of Petit and Crespo. How can yoh tell me Marseille will beat Chelsea in the market when they were relegated and when they finished 11 in the league.

It is not true. Chelea had a stronger squad all through Babayaro's era.



Look at the link below. UEFA team ranking.


By 1999, Chelsea was ranked 16, Olympique Marseille was ranked 36.

By 2000, Chelsea was ranked 14, Olympique Marseille was ranked 38.

By 2001, Chelsea was ranked 12, Olympique Marseille was ranked 44.

By 2002, Chelsea was ranked 11, Olympique Marseille was ranked 46,

By 2003, Chelsea dropped to 25, Marseille was ranked 49.

By 2004,Chelsea was ranked 20, Marseille was ranked 40.

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method2/trank1999.html

Chelsea was bigger than Olympique Marseille by far before Roman's money.