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PoliticsRe: Jonathan Sets Up Committee To Examine Work Of Ribadu Committee And Others by FrankC3: 12:42am On Nov 16, 2012
My friend, it is a standard practice for government to come up with a white paper after a report is submitted. These guys are the government, not any committee, unless you want Sahara Reporters to take you for a ride. They are the same members of the FEC, not external members so what is problem with that? Actually, why many reports submitted to the FG has not been implemented is because no white paper has been issued on them. So in all ramifications, this is a welcome development.
PoliticsRe: Will You Support The Return Of Barth Nnaji As Power Minister... by FrankC3: 12:31am On Nov 16, 2012
Hardfact: Sorry sir, the average Nigerian who lives on less than a dollar a day, really cares about how much he has to keep sacrificing for basic amenities likes power, which nobody expects to be free even if it were Freetown. Same logic, nay trick Nig politicians always emply to hike costs.
Sir, do you live on one dollar per day or do you know somebody who does? Even a begger was arraigned for taking off with about 250k collected from beggars cooperative and you are talking about one dollar.

Even the low income earners spend much more than they will ever do in the new pricing regime if they continue generating power for themselves. Unless there is something else i am not getting, he really brought freshness to the terrain. My only argument is that we should work hard to build systems and structures and not personalities. Yes, I also agree that good people built those systems. Nnaji seem to be one of such good people and he needed more time on the saddle to make his reforms part of the culture of the system.
PoliticsRe: "We (ACN) Helped GEJ During 2011 Presidential Election-tinubu by FrankC3: 5:07pm On Nov 13, 2012
lacasa: Ɣou F.O.O.L

It was Sani Kaita (a PDP stalwart) who said "the country will be ungovernable" fσr GEJ, & not northerners.

And he said ​ so​ after the party shunned the pre-agreed zoning fσr GEJ
Guy na war for you oh! You even dey call the guy fool sef... I thought Sani Kaita was the guy that won us a red card during one of our world cup games against Greece? Never knew he is a PDP stalwart too..lol
For the records, it is Lawal Kaita also said around March this year that Nigeria will divide if power does not come back to the NORTH. His primary constituency has never been in doubt. He flaunts his North first philosophy is all his interviews and is not a new face.
PoliticsRe: Credibilty Of The Ribadu Report! by FrankC3: 9:53am On Nov 13, 2012
take dat: You people should stop this habit of condemning those who try to criticise actions of the government. I have the right to question government policies and I don't depend on any politician unlike some of you.
Ribadu himself confirmed that the committee encountered serious problems while trying to recover government debts from Multi Nationals like Addax petroleum and co. Will you deny that you didn't know the data available from NNPC cannot be reconciled with that of CBN or Ministry of Finance. We were all privy to such information during the House of Rep probe panel where government agencies gave conflicting figures. Abeg don't patronise me with your sycophancy
I only asked for proof and you are writing an epistle. I am not saying that you are wrong, I asked for a proof that you are saying the truth, a link, even to your favorite sahara reporters.
You criticize government? You actually don't do that. You attack the GEJ led Federal government. If you are really after 'criticizing' government, show me a thread where you have ever strongly criticized ACN governors or your own state governor or even your local government chairmen, or are they not government in your estimation? Or they are saints and do no wrong?
PoliticsRe: What's Your Opinion On Dr. Doyin Okupe by FrankC3: 9:45am On Nov 13, 2012
canadaik: I have been hearing a lot about this man from news in naija, wat was his offense exactly ? Could someone pls explain ?
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His only offense is that he punctures the lies and bloated ego of the ACN and CPC peeps. He seem to be a good match to them, hence their headache.

By the way, if you call him an attack dog, what exactly is the difference between him and Lai Mohammed and Yinka Odumakin? I guess their offense with him is that he is a very strong voice and is throwing lots of sand into the mix of the ACN and CPC. period!
PoliticsRe: Salami agrees to retire, Gives Conditions by FrankC3: 9:38am On Nov 13, 2012
Which condition did he give? He just accepted the term of an internal panel earlier set up to reach a middle ground on the issue. The OP is making it out as if Salami just said 'ok, guys, i can only retire when you guys grant me A, B and C'

If anything, this was the exact thing the last Judiciary panel on this issue recommended to him which was communicated by a panel led by the present CJN.
PoliticsRe: Ngozi Okonjo Iweala Behaves Like God - Ifeanyi Ubah( Capital Oil And Gas) by FrankC3: 12:26pm On Nov 12, 2012
Can these ACN folks just shut up! You people are sounding annoyingly confusing and desperate by the day. Lagos crowd gathered in January this year behind Bakare to shout from the Gani square that the people that milk this country through subsidy should be prosecuted. Now, Ifeanyi Uba is being prosecuted and he turns around to accuse the head of the very office that can provide a real proof of his defrauding the subsidy scheme. He did not really accuse her for anything, but for politics which i don't understand. Now the same people are shouting that NOI is a thief. How?

Let me ask again, is this battle really against corruption or against GEJhuh Do you people even have a moral stand? Must everything be used to play politics? I am getting more convinced that the fight against this government has nothing to do with getting us a better Nigeria but to run down the President and return power to the part of the country that you people are more comfortable with,
PoliticsRe: Credibilty Of The Ribadu Report! by FrankC3: 12:14pm On Nov 12, 2012
take dat: The committee was not made up of Ribadu alone but has eminent personalities like Agbakoba, Ighodalo and others, so we should stop centralising it on Ribadu alone. That the task force added a clause that government should verify and reconcile some figures does not make the report inconclusive. They only added the clause because some corrupt government agencies such as NNPC, DPR who are enmeshed in corrupt practises did not give the committee accurate information as well as the multinational oil companies. To buttress this point we should cast our minds back to recent probes of the oil and gas sector such as the House of Reps were the data given by CBN does not tally with those of NNPC and the Ministry of Finance and vice versa. So trying to balance the books of these institutions is highly impossible because of the corrupt and porous system we operate in Nigeria. The only advisable thing which the committee did was to advice the government since it has all the powers to get the information by itself.
Rather than concentrating on key issues such as the ever growing crude oil theft, stopping the NNPC from making illegal deductions from the federation account, to stop NNPC from converting of its dollar earnings to Naira and so on, the government is busy discrediting the whole report through Okupe. Whose interest is the government protecting, IOC's, corrupt government officials or Nigerians?
Where did you get this from? You people are sounding more desperate as the hour passes by...
PoliticsRe: Presidency Intensifies Efforts To Discredit Ribadu Report. by FrankC3: 12:17am On Nov 12, 2012
Afolabs101: Who are these Northerners? Name them and bring attention to them. I'm not attacking anyone, but it's a dirty system, Abacha, Danjuma, Obasanjo, Etete and Jonathan are all involved. You should stop making it a tribal issue, like I'm trying to attack Niger Deltans and protect Northerners. They are all as corrupt as each other, Ijaw, Hausa, Yoruba and Ibo politicians. This monumental fraud and corruption transcends tribe or ethnicity, so stop trying to make it a tribal issue.
Who is talking about ethnic coloration here? My argument is that people with your opinion don't sound sincere when they attack GEJ for restoring Malabu license to the owners in line with a settlement reached by companies invlolved when you have said absolutely nothing about the man that gave him and many others the license in the first instance. You are asking me to name them? The question is how come we know more about Etete restored license than other licenses given out around the same time? Are you sure you are not being used as a pawn in a battle far bigger, more complex and more grand than you can fathom? Is this battle against the wholesomeness of sitting Presidents to give oil blocks to individuals on discretionary grounds or particularly about Malabu restored license implemented by GEJ? Can you articulate your position in a more conspicuous picture let me understand?
PoliticsRe: Presidency Intensifies Efforts To Discredit Ribadu Report. by FrankC3: 11:16pm On Nov 11, 2012
Afolabs101: The difference between Danjuma's case and Etete's is that Danjuma didn't award himself an oil block, he wasn't even in Government when Abacha "dashed" him. Etete illegally awarded an oil block to a company he secretly controlled. Now I'm not saying Danjuma's case is right or fair as I believe a transparent bidding process is what should happen.

If FG wanted to appease Niger Deltans after Danjuma's silly claim, they should have awarded blocks to upright Niger Deltans who had invested in the industry and made a name for themselves like Lulu-Briggs, Tonye Princewill etc, and not a shady ex petroleum minister who was convicted for money laundering in France.

I'll make noise about what is revealed to me, today I know about Malabu's shady deal with the FG. @taharga, let us know what Northerners constitute this 90%, that's a start undecided
Do you know the meaning of the word 'discretionary'? It means that the President has the Power, guaranteed by the Constitution of Nigeria to legally give license even to a one day old baby. All it takes is for the President to decide to do this.

And for the qualification of Etete, there are more less qualified, more incompetent and more corrupt Northern owners of oil blocks. Are you really against this system that give oil block to individuals or against the one Mr President restored to Etete? Remember GEJ did not give this oil block to Etete, he only restored it. Somebody actually gave it to him in the first place. Why are you not attacking that person also?
PoliticsRe: Presidency Intensifies Efforts To Discredit Ribadu Report. by FrankC3: 10:46pm On Nov 11, 2012
The deliberate misinformation presently going on is so obvious. The strategy is to use the media to fight back any attempt to change the existing structures and processes. The opposition political parties, the entrenched interests and some obviously uninformed youth seem to agree that the government must leave thing as they are. Check from the oil subsidy protests to the attack on the Minister of Petroleum and that of Finance. The agreement seem to be that the President and his ministers are the enemy, the system is not the problem at all. They seem to be saying that if GEJ, DAM and NOI are out of the scene, Nigeria will be well. You will see some of their agents here on NL with one line statements line: 'GEJ is the corruption Nigerians need to fight'. ACN, CPC, oil marketers, International Oil Companies, Henry Okah, Adamu Ciroma, the Northern Elders Forum, El-Rufai, Dino Melaya and Tunde Bakare seem to agree totally that GEJ is the problem with Nigeria. The system must be left alone!!

Their logic seem to be that if GEJ sentence all oil subsidy fraudsters to the prison (it doesn't matter if it is the President that does that), arrest the present NNPC leadership, sack NOI and DAM, bring in people whom Tambuwal's team call the guys that understand PDP manifesto, somehow recall Justice Salami, restore subsidy payments and probably promise that he won't be running for office in 2015, he will suddenly become uncorrupted. This particular logic championed by the Gbawes of NL and El-Rufai of Tweeter seem to believe that the rot started before GEJ but the solution is to jail ALL the people who has stolen government fund but leave the damn system alone!! You notice how they don't mention PIB bill before the NA.

Even the assignment given to Ribadu to help study the oil industry and identify how government lose money and how to ensure it stops ended up in controversy because in their estimation, there is no need to stop the loop holes. All that was needed was to arrest everybody and sack DAM. It doesn't matter if bogus ( and unverified figures) figures were used to achieve this. Just jail somebody but leave the structure and the system as it is.

Unfortunately for this group who are presently capitalizing on Nigerian's cynicism towards every effort of government to push for their own agenda, GEJ is not a man they can get to bend with such strategy. The system must be restructured. the loopholes must be closed and subsidy must go. That is the real fight against corruption and not what these people has made us believe. Everybody wants Madueke sacked, nobody is asking for her prosecution and that of Lukman and OBJ and Buhari and all the way up because they all once occupied the same office. The reason is simple- GEJ, Madueke and NOI are trying to change the system they feed on. Let Nigerians be wise for it seems that some people are using them to fight against themselves!
PoliticsRe: Groups Demand Okonjo-iweala’s Sack For N2.7bn Subsidy Fraud by FrankC3: 9:51pm On Nov 09, 2012
jusuph: what's fast about dat judgement , when a finance minister sound like unregistered company took a N2.7bn thru sombody from her ministry n claim non none of her biz in dat, so we ( nigerians ) shud hold that "somebody"responsible. Is that statement logical? My bros ur girlfrnd go dey enjoy u o cos u mumu well well.
You really believe that N27b could be paid to an unregistered company? That in itself will be a tough call in the most corrupt country in the world- Bangladesh.
PoliticsRe: Police Station, Churches, Attacked In Yobe by FrankC3: 9:34pm On Nov 09, 2012
And according to 'smart' Nairalanders, GEJ has just ordered another attack...
PoliticsRe: UK Guardian - Nigerian Army's In A Shocking State by FrankC3: 9:27pm On Nov 09, 2012
It is so unfortunate that in this age and time, a normal human beign will believe this 'report'. When it come to peace keeping operations and ground troop capability, Nigerian troops are among the best in WORLD, not even Africa.
Take it or leave it, this story is planted to drag our men into Northern Mali quicker than Nigeria military strategists have planned. UK is a member of the UN security council, I need to hear the exploits of their men in NATO backed operations. I am not interested in 'what they did with the Americans'
PoliticsRe: Doyin Okupe Is A Disgrace To Nigerians - CPC by FrankC3: 8:56pm On Nov 09, 2012
honeric01: Abeg go park for garage jare, as if we don't know you all. another soul-less devil coming to defend and derail.
Calling someone that you met on an internet board names says a lot about who you are. Real men don't throw insults around. They solve problems along the line of their principles and belief.
Even if you are a teenager, you are in a melting point of opinions and ideas and your online attitude is not the best around. I advice you to grow up. Insults is meant for people who either have no idea to canvass or do not know how to canvass their ideas or feel that they are somehow superior to the other guy or ALL of the above.
PoliticsRe: Doyin Okupe Is A Disgrace To Nigerians - CPC by FrankC3: 7:05pm On Nov 09, 2012
honeric01: Souless devil, wetin u no understand for this article?
You called him a 'souless devil' because he expressed a different opinion? How different are you from the Buhari followers killing NYSC member as part of protests for 2011 elections?
PoliticsRe: Ribadu Report Didn’t Follow Terms Of Reference - Okupe by FrankC3: 10:17am On Nov 09, 2012
omoabike: Chief,
Are you aware that there were consultants and auditors from PricewaterhouseCoopers Limited (PwC)involved in the work of the committee?
So I do not understand what you are saying. Have you read the report at all or are you one of the people who elRufai said don't read?
The report have been circulating for sometime now online and I will advise you to go and read it rather than listen to what you are told.
Were you the one that posted PWC and other consultants to the committee? We know the name of members of this committee.

I have maintained from day one that if you have a dirty job to do, Orosanye is not the guy to engage. If you have ever had something to do with Federal Civil Service when he was at the helm, you better know your stuff and have the right attitude. Steve is one hell of a process guy. He believes everybody can do it if the process is fool proof.

Let me repeat again, if Rubadu was given such an important assignment and he did not conduct independent figure verification and revert back to government for verification, he has failed woefully. Yes!! Okupe is terribly right. It is only in Nigeria that a committee come up with a report that indict a $100b worth organization without verified figures to back it up. ACN propaganda machine and other individuals brainwashed by Lagos press can never see anything wrong with it.

As i will always advice, people should learn to gather information for themselves and make an informed judgement and not base it on whatever NL or LTV pass on to them. Imagine, somebody is still calling this 'work in progress' a report and is even calling for prosecution of people indicted with unverified figures. What an embarrassment!
PoliticsRe: Why Nigerians ‘ll Ask Jonathan To Run In 2015 – Okupe by FrankC3: 6:51pm On Nov 08, 2012
rusher14: For some reason these achievements are not on the internet. Just like i have seen a cyclop but i didn't have a camera on me at the time.
Every time we have a failure of a leader we always have bootlickers such as yourself telling us about a borehole drilled in Gombe as the achievement the president deserves a medal for.
Please show me the Federal government's presence in Lagos at least this is where I live.
Have hospitals become better since he came into power? remember Patshey's need to RESt in Germany.
Note the president has been in power for about 3 years now.
Who in government that has looted or mismanaged funds is in jail now?
Free and fair election is not something to laud a leader for even if it happened under his watch because those are meant to be default events.
Do you celebrate the fact that your child did not steal today?
Have tou had a relation lose his/her life or property from violence (Boko Haram)?
I think it's time people like you begin to tell the truth.
A society can only be called a success when there is an equitable distribution of health, wealth and happinness.
A leader can only be regarded as being successful if he has done well with these parameters.
I don't do insults on a faceless public forum. I see it as a sign of weakness. If i have problem, I take it headlong. I did not also put this up make you agree with me. It is my opinion and I am very much on ground to know that it is true.

Lagos you say? Tell me what in Lagos is not Federal government presence. From 3rd mainland bridge to the Apapa port to majority of the infrastructure on the Island. Wait, let the good governance tour get to Lagos, that is if ACN propaganda machine will allow it.I just advice that you don't swallow what Lagos press is feeding you with. Mitt Romney learnt the hard way that Fox News and their likes are not always right.

I advice that you travel out of Lagos and SW to know that this country is far bigger than island and mainland. Follow the good governance tour with an open mind and come up with an independent appraisal of government. That guy up there just listed things that affect him and for which he cast his vote and he is 100% accurate. It is your responsibility to point out why you voted who, measure their performance against those very yardstick. That is what that guy has done. Prove him wrong if you can. Many people like him are presently observing the ongoing gang up. Just like the last election where GEJ lost election to Buhari on Nairaland but won on the field, the same will happen again in 2015 if he decides to run, especially now that people have something close to them to point to and he has accumulated enormous victim outlook by the virtue of Boko Haram and the present National Assembly aggression. Nigerians that vote are watching and they are in the majority.
PoliticsRe: Tambuwal Defies Party Summons Over Clashes With Jonathan by FrankC3: 3:21pm On Nov 08, 2012
Democracy is a system of government that throws up political associations called political parties whose major responsibility to the democracy is not to grab power but to research ideas, canvass those ideas, market them to the masses so that the masses can buy into the ideas and vote them into power to implement them. Tambuwal should know that the HoR has a role to play in a democracy, so does political parties. Lower oil benchmark is basically a conservation economic concept and this is normally built around political party ideology. Massive government spending vs saving, prioritization of infrastructure vs education... these are ideas. This National Assembly cannot reject benchmark derived from a particular algorithm that have always served us for years without really requesting for that formula and changing it. It smacks of myopia. This very formula that gave the executive this benchmark was used over the years and has always been approved. Is the problem that the formula is no more realistic? If yes, request for it, make your input and adjust it to reflect conservation vs spending logic and not this grand standing.

The big question that those that cheer the present National Assembly adventurism is this: is it right for the national assembly to be the one deciding on oil benchmark prices, waiver options, economic performance indices and the likes? These guys should know that they are LAWMAKERS, not policy makers.

This is the more reason why political parties need to develop themselves and be stronger to be able to reign in members who veer off their idea path. Should GEJ fail to achieve his programs that are calculated based on this benchmark, PDP also have failed. The same way that Bush policy is widely seen as GOP policy, so people should know that you can not call for a better politics if you don't request for better political parties.

Yes, our government must improve and be more efficient. These are done via government programs and policies and these policies are contained in political parties manifesto. So Tambuwal's statement shows that he does not even understand the meaning of democracy and the role of political party in it. It will be foolish imagining a Democrat Speaker opposing Obamacare. We want our democracy to mature like that of Americans but we are willing to cheer on a renegade because he seem to be attacking GEJ.
PoliticsRe: Why Nigerians ‘ll Ask Jonathan To Run In 2015 – Okupe by FrankC3: 2:51pm On Nov 08, 2012
RICHIE BOI: Absolute Rubbish! angry
None of you have really refuted what he has said. The truth is that GEJ has been good for Ndigbo and they can prove it. When the elction campaign starts, GEJ will point out these things which an average Joe in the street can verify and then, it won't be absolute rubbish.

The Good Governance tour has been to Kwara, Nassarawa, Benue and Plateau and we can see what the FG is doing. These things are not on internet, they are on ground and the REAL people that vote see it.

The fact is that at the pace GEJ is going, in 2015, he will have strong proof that we can trust him for another 4 years if he decides to run. The only thing that any logical person can have against GEJ is that he is not very charismatic or inspirational, not performance, not grit. He has actually taken tougher, more guided and intelligent decisions than our other recent leaders. When all these noises and soundbites settle down, Nigerians will chose their next president.
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Congratulates Obama On Election Victory by FrankC3: 5:13pm On Nov 07, 2012
mathskill: Always trust the Nigerian politician to display hypocracy.When everyone knows he donated to Romneys election.
My friend, you sound amazingly ignorant. Which 'everyone' knows this? Gov Romney CANNOT accept campaign funds from foreign lands. It is illegal!!
PoliticsRe: Ribadu Report: C'ttee Did Not Verify Some Data; Diezaini 'draft' Statement Right by FrankC3: 4:31pm On Nov 07, 2012
BERNIMOORE: @frank-c
pls read the last words of the last paragraph



''sources quoted the said letter'' there is no truth about the said-letter! 'unknown sources' remains invalid! but what i/we saw last friday really shows that some people are taking Nigerians for granted, Nuhu ribadu said it boldly that orasanye 'Never participated for even one day' in the assignment,and that he was busy travelling throughout until Mr president call for the report,the same day (friday)orasanye flew in from abroad,this is a person who is suppose to 'deputise'the c'mmitee chairman, and in the process,he got appointed into NNPC board,thereby showing that Orasanye if not only there to rubbish the report but to tell Nigerians 'that they can go to hell' it is a shame on an elderly man Orasanye with grey hairs to show his true color as a thief,an impostor,and a fool at whatever age he is now,fool for nothing.
Im proud of Ribadu's comment without fear that 'Oransanye should have resigned from the committee with that new NNPC appointment' but when someone does not have a shame, how will he show it?
As for Mr president watering down what happened between the duo, it shows that he is not in control,and his action shows how weak he is in the face of fact, maybe he wants it resolved internally,or he is sitting on a gunpowder that he dare not allowed to be touched,well time will tell.kudos Ribadu!
I am sorry, you sound very biased. The same Ribadu also said that Orosanya has interests in Addax Petroleum. Orosanya has demanded that Ribadu back up his claim that he is member of the board of Addax. If you are really about facts, why not demand for this proof to be sure that Ribadu is not the one riding on sentiments to take us for a ride?

On Orosanya's membership of NNPC board, i don't think you understand how it works. He was appointed less than 2 months ago, while his committee is meant to appraise 2002-2011, so how does that compromise him? The same Presidency that appointed him into the committee appointed him into NNPC board, so where is the compromise there? Actually, appointing a fresh hand into the board serves the committee interest. The other option will be to involve old members of NNPC board who might have served during the time period under appraisal.

You may use uncouth words on Orosanya, but i will advice you to apply break there. No body else have really ever accused that man of corruption. He is one hell of a clean guy that the tag doesn't fit him. If you care, check his records. After his many years of service in the civil service, this is the first attempt to drag his name to the mud.

I think that you should make up your mind on this 'sources' thing. On one hand, you believe that Mmadueke is planning to doctor the report because the 'sources' said so but you are very unwilling to believe the same source when 'he' says that there was a letter.

It is pretty obvious that you don't understand how things work at the top level. A committee is formed and commissioned with a letter. They turn in a report with a letter too and this very letter is what the 'source' said was where Ribadu made his recommendations.

While i believe that we all have to fight corruption to a standstill, i strongly advice that you people stop riding on this popular sentiments to exact political advantage. You can not call Orosanye corrupt with Ribadu while being angry with the Aluu students killers.

The question remains, if we asked Ribadu to help us do this job and he did not reconcile facts turned in by the government agencies concerned (if the sources' are to be believed) has he really done justice to the assignment given to him by me and you and this country? If the Ministry should be the ones reconciling the figures, why the heck did they set up the committee in the first place? Does that not make Orosanya to be right that the conclusions reached based on this report is flawed because the process is flawed?
PoliticsRe: Ribadu Report: C'ttee Did Not Verify Some Data; Diezaini 'draft' Statement Right by FrankC3: 11:32am On Nov 07, 2012
take dat: No matter the excuses given by the ministry and nlng, Ribadu's report has come to stay. The inefficiencies and maladministration in the oil and gas industry was common knowledge to all even before the Ribadu committee was constituted. The report only gave us figures and how to plug the leakages in the industry and recommended reprimands to those who have benefited or stunted the growth of the industry. The reprimand is the reason why some are hell bent on frustrating his effort
I think some of you guys should just accept that you are not really after a corrupt free Nigeria or even a better Nigeria. You are just after President Jonathan for some reasons. Before now, you and Gbawe has posited that Orosanye and every other person calling for sanity has been compromised, including DAM just because they opined that process be followed. Now, a letter from the same Ribadu to the Minister has even recommended reconciliation and independent verification of the figures, the very same thing that DAM said that nearly got her crucified by you people.

I agree with you anyway,that the petroleum sector should be restructured, but not to the advantage of the very people presently championing this anti Madueke/GEJ campaign. If you have really worked in a sensitive committee before, you will know that there are stages and independent verification of figures from the very people you are meant to reform is a key part. What Ribadu's report did from my understanding was just to gather inputs of NNPC, PPMC, etc and compile it and forward it to the Ministry while urging the Ministry headed by the same Mmadueke that you guys hated to conduct independent verification. How is that a report to be relied upon? Now you see why Orosanye said that the process is flawed. And also, if we trusted the Ribadus of this world to perform such a sensitive task and they omit the very heart of their assignment which is independent figure verification, I am afraid i have to agree with Orosanye that they should be man enough to tell the President that they are not ready with the report and the process as it were was flawed!!

I strongly feel that if we have half as much information as most of our leaders have on their tables and desire to move this country forward, we will not be behaving differently from President Jonathan and his team. It takes maturity for DAM not to release this letter to the press when the campaign of calumny against her was at its peak.
PoliticsRe: Isreal Sold Non-Functional Drones To Nigeria For $240m by FrankC3: 10:27am On Nov 05, 2012
Do not be deceived. This looks more like business scramble to me. I don't know about the cost of military hardwares but just like every other thing, you won't expect the country to buy a hardware at a price quoted by the manaufacturers unless they sign a contract directly with the coy which also have its pros and cons. Maybe, just maybe, this Hassan guy is losing too much business to his Isreali competitor.
There is a standard procurement procedure and there is what is called Acceptance Test. There is also many components to some procurements like trainings, logistics support, etc. Military contracts are handled carefully.
And on non-functional drones in Benin, does this guy really know what he is talking about? Where is the control center for those drones? Who are the trained professionals at the military to manage them. These are valid question and trust me, you will never get answers because that is just the nature of the military. Even FOI bill can't help you here.
Finally, Isreali drones are one of the most advanced of UAVs available today. It is one thing to procure them. It is entirely another thing to operate them.
BusinessRe: Can You Fast For A Whole Year To Become A Billionaire? by FrankC3: 5:05pm On Nov 04, 2012
babysnogls: In my church, there are people we call 'PARTNERS WITH CHRIST'. They fast every day of their lives breaking only in d evenings. They pray for themselves and intercede for d church, everyone. If these ones have been partners for years, what are we now talking about? To be a bill? I'l do it! Only make sure i eat fruits and gd food in d evening wen i break.
Is your pastor one of the 'Patners with Christ'? Just asking sha...
PoliticsRe: Jonathan Has No Credible Opposition For 2015 by FrankC3: 1:22pm On Nov 04, 2012
pressongodsay: The devil himself is tired of the way nigeria is been govern.
That, my friend is good news because GEJ has frustrated the machinations of the devil that even the devil's most potent means-propaganda- is failing.
PoliticsRe: Disagreements As Ribadu Committee Submits Report by FrankC3: 6:07pm On Nov 03, 2012
thelastPope: One thing I do not agree with is the idea that the anti corruption fight is about sending people to jail. If you want to start to dig out the past and send people to jail, this country will not move forward in the next 50 years. This was the major mistake the military officers made in 1966. If you are going to kill people, you have to kill them all. If you don't kill them all, you will end up with civil war just like we had in 1967! The same mistake Gideon Orkah made in 1990 that led to the failure of the coup. Now, it is even most difficult because the population of the country has grown and the leadership structure has also grown. If we are going to focus on sending people to jail now for the past, we will achieve nothing but chaos. Why? Because the tribal, partisan, socio-cultural and religious divide is far too complex for that kind of drive. To think that just last year, people came together to choose presidential candidate based on tribes or geopolitical groups is proof enough that we will not achieve anything with that drive. Even NL, though not a true reflection of grassroot Nigeria, does support my point.

I say this to say that one of the good thing about this committee and its report is the fact that Nigerians will become more aware about what has been going on in the oil industry for ages. The reason those criminal activities have been on over the years is mainly down to the secrecy that was prevalent there. Now that information is coming to light, I can assure you that 60% to 70% of the problem is already solved.

Already, Nigeria will pay far less subsidy this year than what was paid last year and the year before just because the subsidy issue came to light. We must support these committees and their reports because it is a big first step to solving the whole mess. Forget about the disagreements among the committee members. It is actually healthy for them to disagree. If they didn't disagree, I would have suspected the whole committee was compromised.
On Ribadu, I think he is a dynamic man who wishes to do well for Nigeria but from first hand information of his days in EFCC, the guy has zero leadership skills. Especially as regards bureaucratic structures and processes. That is why I never supported him for president. He needs probably another few years to mature but I think he is one of our future leaders in this country. Unlike El Rufai, Sanusi and Buhari, he is not so tribal. (Everyone is tribal to a small degree). The president has done the mature thing. Now we can block some more loop holes and believe me, ask people in Abuja, government money is not flowing as usual and people (especially politicians e.g. NASS members) are not happy at all at all.

What some of us need to do is to develop advocacy tools from these information coming out. We must build advocacy groups that will mount pressure on government to continue to be transparent at all levels. I know this is difficult to achieve because of the partisan nature of many here.
Very few have the intellectual depth to understand this very point i have always repeated to friends, and sincerely, this is one of the reasons why I am rooting for Jonathan after supporting Atiku during PDP primaries. GEJ's anti-corruption war is idea driven, not braggado driven.
Anyway, there are categories of GEJ bashers- one group belong to 'Lie' Mohammed and CPC team who believe that the only way the fortune of their party can increase is if GEJ is run down. More of the former than the later. They don't really understand the meaning of opposition. The other groups are the deceived youths who have been frustrated by the system and taken to pessimism. To them, every thing happening out there is scam, they are not sure of anything, their father, themselves or even their names and they vent it on the visible symbol of authority they can identify. The others are just ethnic warriors who think that GEJ have diminished the chances of their ethnic group being there, hence they curse and swear and insult...
All in all, any normal human being that take 10mins to think about the best anti-corruption strategy will agree what you jus posted there.
FamilyRe: Does Your Family Eat Together With Housemaid by FrankC3: 5:38pm On Nov 03, 2012
If you'd really read the white man's perspective to slavery as early as 1920s, you'll notice the same line of argument featuring here. I once told a friend that whites would have had it worse were it to be blacks that had them as slaves.
I don't have maids, my wife don't feel they are necessary but i always embarass most of my friends who do with the way i relate with the maids when i visit their houses. Heck! Some families don't even allow maids pray with them!!!
To me, how i tread another human being, irrespective of whom he or she is, is the real measue of my character.
PoliticsRe: PhD, MBA Holders Apply As Truck Drivers At Dangote Group by FrankC3: 5:03pm On Nov 03, 2012
For those that just activated #Nigeria_bashing mode, please note that Airtel just appointed one Mr Segun as her MD and Mr Segus just have a Bachelors Degree from University of Ife according to the report.
You can't finish B.Sc. Rush to UK and runa six straight year program from M.Sc to PhD and expect to come back and take the job of a man who has been with PWC or Accenture or even MTN for the same lenght of time.
While i agree that the unemployment rate is high, i also think that individual decisions are important.
PoliticsRe: Kogi Flood Victims Protest Diversion Of Relief Materials. by FrankC3: 4:22pm On Nov 03, 2012
Musa who is the camp leader accepted that materials meant for the victims are being sold in open market and still has the guts to blame sabotage. From the report, and his statement, the accusation is correct. And this guy is just one of them, probably from thesame community. Not NEMA or any special govt official. This is pure wickedness!!!
Who then can be trusted with this kind of assignment? FG released money to State government, state government released it faithfully to one Dan Musa and he embezzled it. The problem with Nigeria is Nigerians, not even government. Tomorrow, Dan Musa will open an account on Nairaland to blame govt.
PoliticsRe: Disagreements As Ribadu Committee Submits Report by FrankC3: 9:50am On Nov 03, 2012
kulutempa: Steve Oransanye is a bloody disgrace and has not iota of integrity. He is serving on a committee which is looking into the activities of NNPC where he is a member of the board and he thinks there is nothing wrong with this? He is simply a worthless human being.
It is always easy to insult everybody and call them names but i think it is better to undertstand where they are coming from. For your information, this is an adhoc committee and people don't resign their appointments when called to serve in an adhoc committee. Even Ribadu did not resign ACN membership, Agbakoba has vast interests in maritime law while Gerald Ilukwe is still Galaxy Backbone M.D. So why should Orosanya resign?
I think you don't even know Orasanye because if you do, you will know that in this country, we still have men with principle and ideas on the way forward and not just career critics.
PoliticsRe: Disagreements As Ribadu Committee Submits Report by FrankC3: 7:31am On Nov 03, 2012
Maxymilliano: What a show of shame, guess Ribadu is used to running a one-man show and having his way, it is puerile of Orosanye to choose such moment to express his reservations, which is more like an eye service to me.

Good for the president to ignore such inanities, what matters is the desirable effect, I hope he get down to brass tacks without much delay and muster the courage to implement some of the recommendations with far reaching effect.

I also hope he will spare us the idea of setting up another committee this time to harmonize the recommendations of the various committee.

Nuff said.
Is it not really simple enough from the history of the actors? Ribadu has never been known to be a team builder or a team leader. I think he believes it affect efficiency. Check his records, Ribadu arrests suspects even before investigations finishes. His methods has been historically unorthodox and make no mistake about it, he achieves results. His method shields him from the inefficiency of the beauracracy.
For Orosanye, anybody that knows him will know that he is one of the most principled, process based and fearless civil servant this country ever had. Take a look at his days at the Head of Service. He built majority of the service structure in civil service today, so he had always been a process person and will naturally argue with Ribadu's methods.
Actually, if you look at the committee, you will notice that core professionals were drawn from different fields for this assignment. Ribadu himself is a core professional, very technical too. When you have an all technical committee like this, it is always better to drive it with a man/woman with strong leadership skills. Ribadu has never had that.
To my mind, there is no contradiction here, Orosanya was being true to type, so is Ribadu. But i believe that Ribadu could have managed this team better while achieving his desired result. First rule in leadership is never allow your team to be fragmented.
And to Mr President, we all have a lot to learn from his crisis management. He managed the situation well, while allowing all to save face. He is a thorough team leader.
Now, Ribadu's report has been accepted. Orasanya's inputs can still be accomodated. The collection of these form the report of the committee. This will further expand the discussion points that will lead to concesus. Most importantly, their harmonized findings must be taken seriously and as Mr President said, ALL indicted must be brought to book, but more importantly, the system MUST be made to be more fool proof.

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