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mcobex:
Is the account truly fraudulent or has any fraudulent transaction? If yes then be ready to dance to the Reggae/Blues but if it is not then go to your bank and ask them to explain to you(so you know what to tell cic). I know cic hardly go wrong with issues like this. Best of luck

To the bolded words, That was what I said earlier, " they hardly go wrong" But jnyuwa02, said he has seen before, so I have to watch and see what comes after this

[quote author=croyance post=67069108][/quote]Congrats!!!!

jnyuwa02:
It is not risky at all. He wasn’t denied. Application was returned and no denial letter. A denial would have carried a denial letter along. He answers yes to a question that should be no?

It's better to play safe that's my main concern. Anyway! You've point sometimes if applicant application is wrongly filled, not properly signed as expected or submitted close to date of resumption the embassy returns back the applicant app without processing it.

Biakwa:
Good morning Frank,

Can I proceed with Express Entry process while my wife student visa is still in process?
Is there consequence if I embark on it, even at long run?

Expecting your response as usual.

No consequences Biakwa, you can go ahead and proceed for an Express entry while your wife goes for studies. It's a good idea.

jnyuwa02:
It seems to me that the time for your conference elapsed before the South African visa to attend the conference that you applied for could be processed. So it seems the embassy never acted on your application and returned it to you. If that is the case, I would say you have not been denied a visa and your answer should be “No.”

Don't you think ticking "NO" is risky here?. Considering the fact that applicant application was delayed and returned back to him.
The applicant can still tick "YES" and quote the date of the refusal, this should be better than ticking "NO" even though there wasn't a refusal letter in the sealed envelope that was returned to him.

jnyuwa02:
It seems to me that the time for your conference elapsed before the South African visa to attend the conference that you applied for could be processed. So it seems the embassy never acted on your application and returned it to you. If that is the case, I would say you have not been denied a visa and your answer should be “No.”

Don't you think ticking "NO" is risky here?. Considering the fact that applicant application was delayed and returned back to him.
The applicant can still tick "YES" and quote the date of the refusal, this should be better than ticking "NO" even though there wasn't a refusal letter in the sealed envelope that was returned to him.

DrND:
Please gurus in the house I need help on how to tackle this @pics attached.
This is my second refusal. The first was based on recent lump sum in my uncle's account who I used as Co sponsor and the second reason was based on my main sponsor NDDC leaving scholars stranded abroad.
NDDC has paid my full tuition(23,716cad) and has deposited 16,284cad as my upkeep.

In this second application I submitted school fees reciept, evidence of money being deposited in my Canadian account and I also added my Nigerian SOA with a closing balance approximately 12kcad.
I am geological sciences graduate and I hold an offer from memorial university to study oil and gas engineering.
I have been working as an assistant geophysicist after I finished my NYSC.

I seriously need help from the house to decipher what the VO was really looking for and I will love to address all that again in my SOP,

I was shocked seeing this. Well, Sir! It may interest you that payment of upfront tuition is not a prerequisite for visa approval. But it is really ridiculous after paying full tuition and having living expenses in a dorm account and the visa officer is still unsure if the applicant will have funds for their studies in Canada. I also wondered how they expected you to show proof of relationship with guarantor (NDCC Company) after going as far as settling your first year bills. For ticking insufficient funds for reason for refusal was an unfair judgement on your application sir. If I were to be you, you can hire an experienced immigration lawyer and request for a judicial review on your application, while a new visa officer reviews your application, this route takes a longer time like 6-8 months before a decision can be made and will cost you 450k-500K in naira.

Meanwhile, how was your sponsorship letter like, did they give a tangible reason for sponsoring you abroad? What they stand to gain in this sponsporship and the length of the sponsorship?

ayeopare:
Perhaps, @Aallizzwellwole only moved the money into the account and moved it out few days later, just to print a statement for submission.

ayeopare do you think that could have been the reason for saying the applicant submitted a fraudulent bank statement? I don't think this is enough to falsely accuse an applicant. Moreover, embassies has no right whatsoever to know the factual amount (available balance) on your bank account. They only make calls on code to the bank that requires a YES OR NO answer from the bank officals requesting for the authenticity of the bank account, the transactions carried out but NEVER request for available funds on the account as it is not safe to release your balance to a third party. If an embassy is unsure of the statement (the available balance) you submitted along side with your application, they will request for an updated one to know if truly you have spent the money, often happens when an applicant is instructed by the Canadian high commission to pay their first year tuition. This took place in the past, but haven't come across it happening of recent. I mean requesting for an updated bank statement prior to issuance of a visa.

All fingers crossed and lets watch how it goes.

jnyuwa02:
Very sure. I have seen one person wrongfully accused of submitting fraudulent bank statement last month. He had to get a reference letter from the bank and reissued statement in authentic looking letterhead. And another person told he ticked no on the answer to question whether he had been refused a visa before, but record shows he has been denied USA visa. Both refuted strongly the administrative letter. Both were eventually denied but did not get a ban.

This sounds interesting. If that be the case, then the applicant should go ahead with the previous advise I gave, and let's see the outcome of this application.

jnyuwa02:
It may surprise you, but they play guess work all the time. It psycholigical work at play many times. Sometimes they have evidence, sometimes they don’t. I have seen them accuse people of submitting fraudulent bank statements a few times when in reality it’s a real bank statement submitted. I don’t know why they do that. Perhaps because the bank statement submitted looks made up.

Are you sure about this? Well, I haven't come across such before and haven't seen an applicant that was accused of submitting a fraudulent statement that scaled through. Most of them were given a straight up 5 years ban.

Cc: Aallizzwellwole, Please endeavor to come back to this forum and let us know the outcome of your application. As I'm very anxious to know what come after this.

jnyuwa02:
The bank statement you submitted, where did you get it from? Did you pay a bank employee to issue it to you or did you personally make it from your computer? What is the authenticity of the bank statement? Is it real? Come out honestly if you intend to gain any help here.

It baffles me alot bro because the Canadian embassy are too big to play a guess work with an applicant app, they must have already gotten a strong evidence on ground with them before contacting the applicant of being into fraudulent act. They don't falsely accuse applicant with serious issues like this. Well, I have given my advise, it's left for the applicant to take a step. The outcome of this, if found guilty is a 5 years ban, which has already tanished the image of the applicant from traveling to Canada and other American continent.

Aallizzwellwole:
Hello Gurus in the house.. I really commend yours effort, the shared experience and advice given to me, which has been the driving factor that kept me going.

Please I've come again to seck your advice, I received a message from the embassy yesterday that

"In the current application package, you submitted a bank statement purportedly issued by FirstBank that has been determined to be fraudulent"

It's my personal bank statement Of account not that of sponsorship bank statement and I was given seven days altematum to respond to this information and my application will be judged base on the respond I provide to them ... Please I want you guys to put me through .
I will be very happy to hear from you soon. Thanks

Aallizzwellwole,

Did you truly submit a fraudulent bank statement with your application? Why I asked this question is because, It's very rare for Canadian embassy to falsely accuse an applicant of being into sharp practises of faking a bank statement without having strong evidence on ground, the embassy must have made series of calls to the bank branch from which the said bank statement was generated or the headquarters at Victoria Island Lagos to know the authenticity of the bank statement prior contacting the applicant via email and giving a 7 days ultimatum to respond.
To cut the long story short, if your hands are clean and aren't involved into sharp practises. Simply walk straight to your bank and request for an updated bank statement from the day of your application submission till date and a bank reference letter to be addressed to the Canadian high commission - stating that the said account number has being in existence with the bank and that the said bank statement is not fraudulent but has been running with the named customer, attesting on your behalf that you are their customer since this day till date, and your available balance is...., with the signature of the Authorized manager of the bank at the end left and right side of the letter. With this, you will be fine.

All the best!

kylexy61:
Ladies and Gentlemen!!!

My TRV has been approved

Oh my God! Thank you soo much

York University, MASc Civil Engineering

Online Application: 16th March
Medical Request: 4th April
Medicals done: 9th April
Medical Passed: 14th April
Approval/Passport Request: 26th April

Tomorrow would have been exactly 6 weeks since I applied.

Toronto!! Here I come!
#DreamsDoComeTrue

Congratulations man!!!

Bieber78:
Lol I was refused but not on insufficient funds I was refused on

I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay based on travel history ( I have a virgin passport though)

I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay based on your family ties in Canada and your country of residence

I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay based on your purpose of your visit ( I did not include SOP)

Am 19 and am being sponsored by my parents I really don't know what is wrong with the Visa officers I have 5 siblings in Nigeria

Pls can anyone help me to tackle this for me I reapplying. My uni resumes by sept thanks

Bieber78,

Sorry to hear your application got refused.

Don't be in a haste to submit, Quickly order for your GCMS NOTE : https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/welcome.do?lang=en

jnyuwa02:
Third parties sponsors have scaled through without paying a dime. You must have not been paying attention to the testimonies here. It’s all about the overall credibility the applicant is able to convey to the VO. Why sponsor is sponsoring him and if there has been evidence of past support from the same sponsor if shown, is almost a slam dunk. If he can wait till May and June, I am all for it. But he has what it takes too to apply now in my best opinion. Every month that passes the application processing time is shooting up and some people that applied in June last year missed resumption.

True! A winning convincing letter of support, past previous support and proof of relationship with sponsor will make this scale through.

Setemiola:
please someone should help me with..student permit application form.

please very urgent.

Setemiola,

Use the below link to get your forms. Firstly, you need to download the updated version of the acrobat adobe reader inorder to have access to fill the IMM1294E.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/student.asp?countrySelect=NG#applications

goingforward:
Thanks @Frankrobbn1.

I considered that, but Ph.D. is more of a reserach, i run a business and i need management experience plus global network/partnesrhips, ( which are my strong points in my SOP), to launch my business to the next level.

We are going into a new line of business hence my going for this.- An EMBA program.

My Msc was done online in Information Systems Mgt.

With all these, do you still think that the VO will not see a career progression?

goingforward.

goingforward,

It not always easy, you might have a point but a visa officer won't be seeing it from your own perspective and genuine interest, this happens most often. You need to present a justifiable reasons for going to Canada for a second masters degree, provide proof that you own a business which requires you to go for an MBA in Canada and argue why Phd is not your choice at the moment. With this, it might be an approval.

mcobex:
NO, it is not possible/legal to stay in Canada without doing what you went there for(studies).This is one of the reason why cic is getting more and more strict with applicants from Nigeria. So, how did you prove you have enough funding for your studies?
NB: PLEASE IF YOU KNOW YOU DONT HAVE FUNDS TO STUDY IN CANADA PLEASE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE OR WAIT TILL YOU HAVE ENOUGH, INSTEAD OF MAKING THINGS HARDER FOR THOSE THAT GENUINELY WANT TO TRAVEL FOR STUDIES

mcobex,

Bro! You dey vex o Hahahaha . Setting my eyes on this post I had to burst into laughter. Menh! At times the questions some people ask here is quite humorous. These are the set of people that makes things so difficult for the genuine students from Nigeria. Does he think Canada is an Asian countries like Malaysia, Indonesia etc.. where one can travel with the intention of studying and on reaching there, fly into labour market(Hustling). That is not done in Canada. Well, you have given the best advise, so it's left for him.

Topsonhandsome:
Good day everyone... Please is it possible to stay in Canada legally if one is granted a student visa but fails to start schooling immediately because of funds.

This might lead to you being deported from Canada because the school in which you're accepted will send all correspondence about your appearance in school to IRCC and once that is done you will be found wanting. Don't try it.

goingforward:
Hello Nairalanders,

Just to ask, I have an Msc. and i am going for an MBA. i hope that it shows career progression , i have been reading here about how impoertant it is to show career progresion.

Please advise.

Thanks.


goingforward.

goingforward,

I can see purpose of visit dropping off, Having a MSc (Master of science) and going to Canada for an MBA (Masters business Administration) shows no logical progression. You're simply undertaking the same academic level to that already completed. The Visa officer will tag you as not a genuine student that is using study permit as a means to facilitate entry into Canada rather than educational advancement. So, Your best bet here is to go for a phd.

goingforward:
So sorry for your refusal @gbemiigbal.

It's a good thing that you are seeking advise to satisfy the VO.

But i have a question. @Frankrobbn1.

What of if a company is the sponsor and the funds came in from a recent business (reoccurring) and one is able to provide the receipts, invoices of the transaction. Will this be sufficient to satisfy the VO on cash lodgment? There is still funds to run the company even after the fees amount.

Please gurus in the house help!

goingforward.

goingforward,

No problem here!. Once the origin of funds can be accounted for and evidence like reciepts, invoices of the transcations carried out are provided on file with explanations. It WON'T be tagged as a lump sum deposit by the Visa officer.

gbemiigbal:
@jnyuwa02, @frankrobbn1 here is my gcms as asked. I have answered all the queries to my ability even the one they didn't query. Pls is someone willing to help check it out? I need to submit my Wednesday. Thanks

gbemiigbal,

To the best of my knowledge your gcms note is simply saying that you have limited compelling reasons for study in Canada. Why you decide not to complete this program in Nigeria since it will reduce cost and wouldn't warrant you leaving your spouse and kids back home to a foreign country. The Visa officer is equally questioning your intent for not also completing this program in the US other than Canada considering your relavant travel history with them (US).

Also, there are traces of lump sum deposits (Loan) money into the bank statements you presented before printing the statement of account.

Edited: In respect to reviewing of the letter, I wish I could be of help here, but I am currently having a tight schedule and much letters to review from prospective applicants.

chuksdewigs:
please guys, who do I address my statement of purpose to..asin what address do I have to use

chuksdewigs,

Due to the recent contradictions of where study permit applications are being processed, it's best you address your letters to:

Deputy High Commission of Canada,
4 Anifowoshe Street,
Victoria Island,
P.O. Box 54506,
Lagos, Nigeria.

gbemiigbal:
Find below the gcms notes. The first note came in from Accra VO then London VO before i was finally refused.

I have answered all the queries, will just need someone to help take a look at it. Thanks

Sorry I'm unable to access the PDF file you sent to me, could you please share it as a JPEG.
Thank you!

Edited: Never mind! I just find out you already pasted one. So, we will work with it.

jnyuwa02:
Anything scanned is not original as it is merely a transmission. Original means the exact hard copy issued by bank. By that accord, all online applicant’s submission is not original documents. Even originally submitted documents can be inauthentic. CIC’s focus is not whether things submitted are original, but whether they are authentic. I submitted original letter of admission and still CIC had to confirm directly from my school whether they are authentic. VFS Abuja collects bank statements whether they are original or not. Mine was an emailed copy.

jnyuwa02,

Well, that's not enough to say it looses it originality. As for CIC confirming from your school the legitimacy of your offer might be due to your full funding from USASK, this has to do with funds and CIC don't take it likely when it comes to such aspect, they wanted to be sure if your claims were true and whether your acceptance was aunthetic. Moreover, I also learnt that once an applicant has successfully secured admission into an institution in Canada, the offer letter will be automatically sent to CIC database.

Clahws:
In the link shared, it says you have to be atleast a canadian Permanent Resident before you can order for your GCMS note.
How long before I receive a response on GCMS note?

Clahws,

It mustn't be a Permanent Residence of Canada, a citizenship , a Visitor, or a student that is legally residing in Canada can as well help order this note for you. You will need to input their address on the form, phone number, full name, your date of birth, sign and date the form then resend it back to them to order the note on your behalf.

Or better still, simply download the form using this link:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/transparency/access-information-privacy/forms/request-5744.html

Request for the person's address over there in Canada, his full name, phone number and fill the remaining part of the form with your details, then complete payment using your master card in Nigeria.

It takes 30-40days to get a GCMS file.

Clahws:
Please How do I order for GCMS NOTE.
I was rejected today based on 5 different reasons to believe that I will not leave Canada after completion of program:
1. personal Finance & Assets.
2. Purpose
3. Family Ties
4. Current employment situation
5. My passport will expire before the completion of program

Clahws,

Sorry for the outcome of your application. You can order your note using this link:
https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/welcome.do?lang=en

Also, the below link will go a long way in addressing the reasons for your refusal before the arrival of your GCMS NOTE.

https://www.nairaland.com/3948393/canadian-student-visa-thread-part/391#63425662

Lastly to question No 5 - Your passport expiration date doesn't have any negative effect on your application once it has a 6 months validation, your visa will be issued to you based on the validity of the passport since it will expire before the end of your program. While in Canada, you can then apply for a new passport at the Nigerian embassy/immigration office there and extend your study permit till the end of your program.

All the best!

sogima:
Please how does CIC send information about update?
Is it through email?
Or Text?

Yes they do through email!

ayeopare:
Yes boss, the bank officer phone number was well stated on it, with my account info.

Then you're set. No problem Bro. All fingers crossed. I hope to hear a positive outcome on your application.

All the best!

OriEyeLe:
Good evening house, Well through app I linked online, I already saw a refusal(second refusal) but no correspondence letter yet since afternoon. I want to thank everyone in this forum for the help and the much needed knowledge I have gained on thisbwonderful thread..switching to USA for good. Thanks you all

What!! What went wrong brother? You have gone a long way in this, you don't have to quit now. Remember winners never quit. You can pm me and as well share your profile to the house.
I'm very sorry about the outcome of your application. Be strong

ayeopare:
Thanks boss, I applied via paper route. The bank letter of introduction was also sent to me by email, but the bank officer phone number is well stated on both documents

ayeopare,

Is this a bank statement from a Canadian bank?. If yes. No worries, visa officers believes more on Canadian bank statement than a Nigerian bank. I know of an applicant that submitted his application last year without a bank statement from Canada, but included a reference letter from the bank stating how much the sponsor (the brother) has in the account and CIC accepted it.
So, no worries okay!

jnyuwa02:
You are good to go, don’t panic. Many submit photocopy bank statement and are good. In fact if you are filing online, the scanned original bank statement you are submitting is not classified as original as it looses it originality by been scanned. You are good!!! If CIC has any questions about your bank statement, they have a way of checking in with bank!!

Legend are you sure about the bolded words? Many?... Why not say a minority of people .
Also, why do you say that submitting an original scanned copy of bank statement looses it originality? I have to refute this because an original bank statement bears an official stamp, signature and bank seal affixed to it. When scanned, it appears exact as the original copy.