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Omonoba1981:
Thanks for the advice. I just book available TOEFL exam for June 16. Didn't get any closer date for Lagos.

I really wanted to make the September session. Is there any school that could accept TOEFL score of 80 with no limitation of band on each session/or that accept a D in GCE English language.

Omonoba1981,

Apply to schools like:
Brandon University Manitoba Canada,
The University of Winnipeg Canada,
The university of Manitoba Canada.

Omonoba1981:
What about if I write a SOP and indicate a plan to further to Bsc after the certificate course in Telecommunication.

Omonoba1981,

I'm sorry to say this, but applications that appears in this manner are very tough to win a TRV APPROVAL in as much no matter what you present to the visa officer as your intent to study will be far-fetched and meaningless to them.

I have been watching closely from the advices given to you by my bosses. But it will interest you to know that going for an ESL program as a pre-requisite course prior your enrollment into your academic program and coming from an English speaking country Nigeria is never easy for such application to scale through the sight of a visa officer. Why do you want to spend so much on ESL program in Canada? Why travel all the way from Nigeria to Canada just to study ESL? Why can't you undertake an IELTS/TOEFL exam and save your self the stress of putting your TRV application at risk?
Also, when going for an ESL program, you have to take into account that your sponsor needs to show funds excessively for both the ESL program, your first year undergraduate tuition and your living expenses which cost a hell lot of money.
The worst part of it all is that you will be issued a study permit based on only the length of the ESL program. Upon successful completion of the ESL you will then reapply for another study permit in Canada that will allow you to continue your undergraduate studies.... Which is another stress!

My advise to you is that, you apply to another university that will waive English proficiency requirement for you, or you sit for an IELTS/TOEFL exam and get this ESL requirement off your neck.
More so, DON'T apply for your visa with an 18 months program in a polytechnic, you will be automatically refused based on PURPOSE OF VISIT. Therefore, your best bet here is going for a direct Bsc undergraduate program since you are within the age bracket for a Bachelors degree Canada.

This is my advise!

All the best!

uyplus:
Please I don't understand what the ground of refusals based on family ties means. Can someone explain it to me please? I applied for a study permit on the 29th of April, 2019 and I am really scared reading all this family tie grounds for rejection particularly because, my elder brother is a citizen of Canada, he is married with four children. Can that be a family tie that can cause refusal?

uyplus,

Inorder not to derail the thread. Kindly check the link below:
https://www.nairaland.com/3948393/canadian-student-visa-thread-part/391#63425662

jnyuwa02:
What is your evidence sir for saying this is what CIC uses for SOWP?

jnyuwa02,

This young man! I definitely know you will come attacking me again. That not withstanding, the both views from Ratawu and goingforward are both correct! I don't need to start proving them, because you will keep on prolonging the issue until you win.
Moreover, such questions will be best answered on SOWP thread not here, as this thread is strictly for Canada study Visa.

frankrobbn1:
Goingfoward,

The figures shortlisted by you from cic webpage is correct. But you should also put into consideration if his kids will be enrolled into a creche or primary school over there in Canada, which requires a huge sum of money.Therefore, showing additional funds for just 4KCAD for adult dependant and 3KCAD for children won't be sufficient considering his tuition fees from NCC, flight tickets for a family of five. So, presenting just 10M will not fly here.

Omonoba1981:
To be eligible to make a request under the Access to Information Act or the Privacy Act, you must be a Canadian citizen, a permanent resident of Canada or an individual or corporation currently present in Canada.

Seem you have to be a PR to request GCMS

Omonoba1981,

Inorder not to derail the thread. Explore to the link below:
https://www.nairaland.com/4390108/canadian-student-visa-thread-part/85#66999561

annaliese88:
Yes. Exactly same steps and I have tried severally to no avail

That serious! I persist you try giving it someones else to help you out.

Omonoba1981:
I am planning to send in my student application, but got bad news from a friend who got his reject in 3 weeks. He seems to have put in a good application, but was rejected based on purpose of visit.

And he applied online and did his biometric in Abuja. The decision was made in
Embassy of Canada
Visa Section
Cinnah Caddesi 58
06690 Cankaya
Ankara
Turkey

Any reason why decision was made in turkey?

Omonoba1981,

Sorry for the outcome of his application. It's obvious that there are different offices handling the visa processing.

Quickly, Order for his GCMS NOTE using this medium: https://atip-aiprp.apps.gc.ca/atip/welcome.do?lang=en

Eichie123:
yeah he told me that there was some delay with the procees that was why he take him so long to get back to me

To cure your curiosity to know the progress of your application. Request for your cic account and password from your agent since he submitted your app through online route.

Eichie123:
i did my biometric 4 days ago

Eichie123,

Yes you were called for biometrics last week, if I may ask you this question again, who submitted this application? You or the agent? If it is your agent ask for the details of your application, so you can keep track of your application day to day processing since you're unable to track it using the tracking number that was issued to you at the local VFS tracker website. Ask for your cic account details of your application from your agent. Better still, patiently allow your agent to finish up the entire visa process while you leave everything in God's hands and wait for a positive outcome.

This is what I have to say.

All the best

Newman1010:
Since October? That’s not possible. Stop trying to track it and contact your agent, he is not telling you the truth. It take not more than 5 days to get a biometric request after application. Kindly visit your agent with some military men.

Newman1010,

Hehehe you guys don't seize to amaze me here with the bold words. Yes, the agent might not have being sincere with the applicant or maybe the agent applied recently for the visa that's why the applicant was called for biometrics last week. Either of the two might be the case here.

Eichie123:
same issue with me i try to track it no match found and i did online because it was somebody that did everthing for me

Eichie123,

Yours is different, considering that you made use of an agent, you should ask your agent the progress of your application since you are unable to track your application using the local VFS tracker.

annaliese88:
Submitted my paper application on the 10th of April at vfs Lagos. Both attempts to track my application using Vfs tracking info and linking my application online have been giving me a “No matched records” response.

I mailed CIC last weekend about my inability to link my application, but yet to get a response

Please does anyone have any solution to this? Or any prior experience like mine.

Appreciate your help

annaliese88,

It might be you're still missing out some vital informations you filled out on your IMM1294 form. A friend of mine was complaining the same, but as at last week when I helped out, he find out that he was doing the wrong thing and now his application is finally linked online. Have you tried following the below link step by step guidelines and you're still not getting it right?

https://www.nairaland.com/4390108/canadian-student-visa-thread-part/33#66255587

Eichie123:
it was am agent that did every documentation online and after some months i was ask to go for biometric so when i got there they gave me the biometric letter and i was ask to photocopy my passport date page and i did all that i finally did my biometric and the vfs officer gave me a recepit and there was a tracking number there, so i dont know if i can use the tracking number to check it out

Eichie123,

Oh! I see, you agent must have filled a representative form in your visa application, so all correspondence from cic will be sent directly to the agent.

Yes! Use the below link to track your application using the tracking number that was issued to you at VFS office.
https://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/nigeria/track_your_application.html

philoxy4:
Good afternoon gents and ladies,I need a clarification.I was reading through the canadian wesbsite on preparations to enter the border.I read a place that says i have to show the immigration officer i have funds to cover my study at POE.Will i have to print a new bank statement from my sponsor or the old one i used for application is sufficient?

philoxy4,

Immigration officers, at times does not request this from a student, it depends on the officer you meet at the POE. Many students travel with just PTA and were allowed entry into Canada. However, it's nice you go with your sponsor updated bank statement not the previous one you used at the time of visa application.

Eichie123:
Good everning guys pls i drop a question this morning still waitibg to grt respond, i ask how long will it take brfore i start tracking my application on online because i did my biometric last on tusday and i was given a tracking number which was on my recepit

Eichie123,

I'm sorry, if you asked a question and there wasn't a reponse. I'll quickly check back to see if I can find your previous questions. Meanwhile, Let me answer this first!
Yes! You can start tracking your application online immediately you have successfully submitted your application and completed a biometrics. If you submitted through paper route you are advised to link your application online to keep track of your application day to day processing using this medium:
https://www.nairaland.com/4390108/canadian-student-visa-thread-part/33#66255587

While online route, you can continue checking the progress of your application through your cic account.

All the best!

goingforward:
@Frankrobbn1,

Well someone here advised that its important for each person to do research on your own as well, even though that you may also seek to advise here, so i have been doing some extensive research about the entire Canada study process.

Still, No man is an island. In the multitude of counsel, there is safety.

This forum has been very helpful and still is with people like you here.
Gracias.
goingforward.

goingforward,

It's very fascinating to see that you're wisely making use of your time on research that will be of paramount benefit to you and the forum at large. Keep up with the good works as you are indirectly passing out relevant informations here and some day will turn out to be professional expert that will assist in helping out prospective applicants in achieving their goals. Once again, thanks for your wishes.

All the best!

Ratawu:
This is what the CIC will use for your Spousal Work Permit whether you like it or not


READ:
Minimum Necessary Income and Family Class Sponsorships
Last modified on May 14, 2017
Originally posted on March 5, 2017 by Steven Meurrens
Filed under Immigration Trends Tagged 133, LICO, minimum income
One of the requirements to being a sponsor in both the Family Class and the Spouse or Common-Law Partner in Canada Class is that the sponsor must on the day that the application is submitted and until the application is assessed have a minimum necessary income.

For most types of family sponsorships, the income must be equal to the minimum necessary income, which is statutorily defined as being equal to Statistics Canada Low Income Cutoff (“LICO“). The current LICO requirements are as follows:

Size of Family Unit Minimum necessary income
1 person (the sponsor) $24,600
2 persons $30,625
3 persons $37,650
4 persons $45,712
5 persons $51,846
6 persons $58,473
7 persons $65,101
More than 7 persons, for each additional person, add $6,628
For sponsors seeking to sponsor their parents and/or grandparents, the income must be equal to the minimum necessary income plus 30% for each of the three consecutive taxation years immediately preceding the date of filing of the sponsorship application. The current requirements are as follows:

Federal Income Table for Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship
Size of Family Unit Minimum Income
2015 Minimum Income
2014 Minimum Income
2013
2 persons $38,618 $38,272 $37,708
3 persons $47,476 $47,051 $46,354
4 persons $57,642 $57,125 $56,280
5 persons $65,377 $64,791 $63,833
6 persons $73,733 $73,072 $71,991
7 persons $82,091 $81,355 $80,153
If more than 7 persons, for each additional person, add $8,358 $8,271 $8,148
Canadians seeking to sponsor their spouses or common-law partners do not need to have a minimum necessary income.

Excluded from these amounts include, amongst other things, any amounts paid to the sponsor under the Employment Insurance Act, other than special benefits.

Looking Beyond the Notices of Assessment

Visa officers must accept Canada Revenue Agency Notices of Assessment as proof of income when a sponsorship application is filed.

However, the Immigration Appeal Division (the “IAD”) can look beyond the Notice of Assessment. In Motala v. Canada (Citizenship and Immigration), 2012 FC 123, the Federal Court stated that:

Ratawu, is correct here! This is what cic uses for SOWP.

goingforward:
Hi Frankrobbn1,

Sure there are other miscellaneous, however, education is free for kids up till 18years.
I think even at that it would not be up to 20million. I know people who did this and got it without having up to that.

I think that Okka should asides from the stipulated amount from CIC make provision for the following:


Return Ticket for a family of 5 *
Miscellaneous during the study (maybe 5k or 10kCAD)

If you do the math it doesn't get up to 20millon naira.

Use CIC as a guide and add some miscellaneous. ( So that they know that you are taking your family into consideration)

Also is your wife applying for SOWP or Visit, that again is another consideration.

These are just my thoughts.
Goingforward.

goingforward,

Well said!!! I can see you have some relevant experience here. Well at the first instance, I never cared to calculate the figure whether it's up 20M or not, but I know fully that 10M won't be enough for a family of five in Canada considering the expenses, flight tickets etc.. He may risk his application of being refused based on insufficient funds. To be on a safe side, the figure might not be up to 20M it's just to show his financial establishment. A bank statement of 15M will be his best sell here and once acquired his TRV, then his wife can apply through SOWP.

Ratawu:
Many people don't know that Canadian visa officers have now adopted the use of LICO for the spousal work permit application. If you rely on the $4000 for adult plus $3000 for each of the dependant,you risk refusal on insufficient fund.

Thank you for this point Ratawu. Not just that, the applicant needs to show funds in excess when travelling with a Family of five.

goingforward:
I am a bit confused with your response and i disagree.

For a family of 5 for 1 year living expenses is 10kCAD (for primary applicant) + 4kCAD for 1 (adult dependent) and three children 3kCAD each

This sums up to 23kCAD

In naira its about 6.5million. (1year living expenses)

Please, how did you arrive at 20million

Going forward.

goingforward,

The figures shortlisted by you from cic webpage is correct. But you should also put into consideration if his kids will be enrolled into a creche or primary school over there in Canada, which requires a huge sum of money.Therefore, showing additional funds for just 4KCAD for adult dependant and 3KCAD for children won't be sufficient considering his tuition fees from NCC, flight tickets for a family of five. So, presenting just 10M will not fly here.

okka:
Thank you for your swift response and advise.
If I wish to go alone first, what will pof amount look like?

What do you mean by NCC? Do you mean Niagara Christian Collegiate? 15M will be your best bet here as POF

okka:
Kindly help me out.
I just got admission offers from NCC and my processing agency told me I need to have up to 20m naira in my bank account as prove of fund for a family of five.
Although, I have a different position on this amount which I believe should not be up to 10m naira.
My major issue, however is how to get the amount that much to enable me proceed with the visa filing.
Your response is golden.

okka,

Your processing agency is correct! 20M is the ideal amount of money to cater for a family of five that's if you plan traveling along with them. Presenting 10M won't fly here unless you don't plan to travel with your family at once.
But I'll advise you apply alone, while your family can join you once you've acquired your TRV, think about it okay.

justwise:
How will you do that? I'm really interested in that part of your post.

I wonder why jnyuwa02 will be too sure of another man's case. We both argued this yesterday. I noticed he was taking the matter so personal, so I decided to let the sleeping dog lie.

jnyuwa02:
If evidence was all needed, then presentation of it would mean qualification for visa. Clearly we know you can present heaven and earth and still be turned down. But presentation of words to win the visa’s discretion in addition to evidence submitted, will carry one over. The right choice of words are very important in an administrative process. And in moving for reconsideration, you don’t say stuff like you were wrongfully denied no. You ask the administrative officer to reconsider his decision based on what you think were overlooked previously. They don’t like to be told they are wrong, only that they overlooked stuff. It’s discretion we are dealing with here! Power to act however he sees fit, is bequeathed to the officer here.

jnyuwa02,

This is just a mere debate which should be encouraged. we learn from each other on a daily basis.
We cannot all agree on the same point/position, it's what makes us intelligent beings. The ability to think and form our own opinion distinct from others.

But i get your point Legend!

Edited: Don't come attacking me again Lol!

HerMoney:
Hi guys, is it advisable to submit proof of ownership of a car as personal asset?

HerMoney,

It's not a reasonable asset to include. However, I have come across applicants here adding proof of car ownership and got approved. You can as well do same, If you think it will a positive impact in your application. Overall, it's not a tangible asset to applicant, as cic regards investments, shares certificates, buildings, landed properties etc... to a car as personal assest.

jnyuwa02:
No, no, no. You can’t state that your application was “wrongly refused” having paid full tuition. You will be refused again. They don’t like to hear things like that. It’s not a right, it’s a privilege. Rather you can argue that the High Commission reconsider their previous decision, outlining where or what you think was missed or overlooked in your previous application. You really have to be diplomatic about it. You don’t accuse them of been wrong. That is not how to invoke their discretion. Rather you invoke their discretion by asking them to reconsider their previous decision, highlighting areas you believe that makes you eligible for a visa that were missed or overlooked previously!!

Your other points are excellent.

That being said, some applications were wrongly refused by some Visa officer. Once the applicant can demonstrate documented evidence not just by words, the applicant claims needs to be independently verifiable I don't see reasons why a visa officer will refuse the application again.

I articulate your point Legend.

DrND:
I submitted this @attached. I got the award on 2016 October deferred it to 2017 September because I needed to give NDDC time to pay my fees before I apply for visa. But after waiting till June without them paying I had to go ahead and applied with NDDC as main sponsor and my uncle as Co sponsor. I was denied on July 31st 2017 after seeing the GCMS the VO made notes about the stranded students that my main sponsor (NDDC) left overseas and attached an article about it from premiumtimes. And the second note was the recent lump sum on my co-sponsor account.

I jejely deferred my admission to 2018 September and waited till NDDC finally paid on January 2018. The scholarship is worth 30kusd but NDDC pay the equivalent of 40kcad which covers my full tuition fees for the whole program and the balance 16,284cad was deposited in my Canadian account for upkeep.

I was sure I tackled all these in my SOP bfr applying on March 20th. Tuition receipts, account statements even attached a personal Nigerian account statement of 3 million.

I really don't understand the VO from Kenya reasons for refusing my app. It's so complex and ambiguous.
I am willing to reapply asap but I really need to hear from you guys and put up a SOP for vetting.

I don't have the resources to hire a lawyer oh.

Thanks all in anticipation any positive input.

DrND,

Sir! Your next visa application you will need to draft a separate rational letter of explanation arguing that your previous application was wrongly refused, having paid full tuition and living expenses deposited into a Canadian bank account in your name and an additional 3M in your personal bank statement and for the visa officer stating that they are unsure of you having funds for your studies in Canada was an oversight by the Visa officer. Also, argue that you're a genuine student and your purpose of visit to Canada is strictly for studies and you're applying in good faith and will depart after your authorized stay in Canada (Provide your home ties) what can compel your return back home after studies.

In regards to showing proof of relationship with your guarantor (NDDC), you can explain to them that you're BONAFIDE student that was awarded a scholarship by merit from NDDC and can't be stranded while studying in Canada as they have already shown commitment by paying up your bills.

By the grace of God, I see you getting it the third trial.

jnyuwa02:
It makes no sense. I fraudulently make bank statements and when confronted I come to a guru for a way out, while telling the guru that I submitted true bank statement? This is not logical. A person who submits fraudulent bank statement and caught will not reply to CIC. Or he will silently confide with his co-conspirators.

I dig your point bro!

drhammed:
Everything was complete then and legit. I could remember there was a public holiday around that time, hence it might be a major issue for the delay.

Sadly, they hardly reply to emails. One would have clarify this.

It implies that your application wasn't processed.

drhammed:
Sir, like I said they didn't send me refusal letter and passport not stamped. Why tick YES? I'm Kinda confused..

Do Canada embassy stamp passport when applicant application is refused?... The answer is NO.
As I and jnyuwa02 has deliberated on this issue, It might be that you submitted your application late and they never cared to review your app and decide to resend it back to you without processing it. In this case, your answer will be "NO"

jnyuwa02:
They go wrong, they are not infallible, in fact quite from it. I can guarantee it that this guy presented true statements from his bank, otherwise he won’t even have the audacity to place his question here.

You think so? Some involve themselves into sharp practises and when it's too hot for them, they come here to seek for advise from the gurus. So don't be too sure/guarantee for another man's case.