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LegalWolf:
Hey FxMasterz

Let’s clear this: the Question of the first King of Samaria is completely different from the King of Samaritans. Don’t confuse issues.

That Omri is the first king of Samaria is a statement that I’m unwilling to debate. But the first king of the Samaritans is a non-existent statement. And that’s why I said I don’t know and I don’t care to know because it does not exist!!!!

These folks never had a kingdom but priesthood all their history and according to them, their priesthood relates to the time of Aaron until today! I think I’ve given you reference for it, but would you learn?

Please go and call your teachers and let’s talk. Lol.

Cc: Future thief TenQ

Since you agree that Omri was their first king, then we can talk.

Omri was the one who founded Samaria. Before Omri, there was no such place called Samaria. As I said earlier, Samaria is the name of a place. The people who live in the place are called Samaritans the same way people who live in Lagos are called Lagosians. The term 'Lagosian' does not apply to any tribe. You're a Lagosian simply because you reside in Lagos. That's the situation with the Samaritans. The term does not apply to a tribe residents on a location. Shemer, who owned the mountain area which was bought by Omri, and whose name was used to describe the area as Samaria wasn't a biological progenitor of the people who live in the area. The same way the founder of Lagos isn't the father of Lagosians.

If you're in tune with the position above, then let's move to the next stage.

LegalWolf:
So what’s the Moses/Samaritan disagreement issue?

Modified: If you agree about the Samaritan history about themselves which predates moses, I think my argument is made. Now you've asked, from what I deduct from the future thief tenQ question that:

According to the Samaritans, Who is the First king of Samaria and give the approximate date when he reigned?

I do not know and I do not care to know. And could you tell me how that detracts from the basis of my argument?

cc: Future thief TenQ FxMasterz Sirtee15 advocatejare

My friend, I'll like to have the said Samaritan history that predates Moses. A cursory reference to the story would do.

In another vein, I feel like asking you that, since you do not have knowledge of such basics as the first king of the Samaritans, can I consider you a worthy opponent in this argument? I need all the knowledge you have on the matter because I'll be punching very hard on the topic. I wouldn't want to take advantage of someone who knows nothing.

Baolak:
You can call me name's, from now till eternity, i am not moved an inch! I insist, you come to ikorodu Garage round about and Heal the blind by just 'MENTIONING JESUS NAME' . I will be responsible for your transportation if you want.But do not be UNFORTUNATE to derail me again or my post like you have always been doing , IF YOU KNOW YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THE OPEN CHALLENGE just say it , dont strain my eyes with worthless epistles!

You're deceiving yourself. If the truth of the gospel cannot challenge you, won't you be judged on that day?

I should come to Lagos to what purpose? To prove a point? Laughable.

Did I call you names? No I simply described the true picture of your character. Don't worry, the judgement of God would catch up you someday. Remember, you've been warned!

Baolak:
You can call me name's, from now till eternity, i am not moved an inch! I insist, you come to ikorodu Garage round about and Heal the blind by just 'MENTIONING JESUS NAME' . I will be responsible for your transportation if you want.But do not be UNFORTUNATE to derail me again or my post like you have always been doing , IF YOU KNOW YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THE OPEN CHALLENGE just say it , dont strain my eyes with worthless epistles!

You're deceiving yourself. If the truth of the gospel cannot challenge you, won't you be judged on that day?

I should come to Lagos to what purpose? To prove a point? Laughable.

LegalWolf:
Lol, please point to where you answered my very simple questions. It seems I missed it…🤣🤣🤣🤣

Please don’t waste my time and point to it !!!!!!
Let me cc my Nairaland friends: FxMasterz advocatejare sirtee15 and our only future thief TenQ 🤣

Is there any need for me to answer your question again? You asked the question because I didn't agree to the Samaritan version of the Israel/Samaritan history. Now, I said I agree and accept the Samaritan history about themselves. Now, let's argue the Moses/Samaritan disagreements on this basis.

Didijiji:
I attend white garment and have never used the parish whatever

For brooms, you can be asked to prayer and sweep the church. We do that

For David Ibiyeomi, I can bet that he never saw or did that kind of prayer where someone is cocked in schnapp bottle and made a drunkard. I mean I can confirm that it never happened in the ESOCS church where he was a member. So it is still strange where he saw that

Okay bro.

Though the candle -broom I was talking about was not that the church members were asked to sweep the floor. That's not a bad thing. God could answer people's prayers just by sweeping the floor. In this particular case, they bound a couple of broomsticks to white candles. Then held the bound up with two hands while praying round the church auditorium.

I know that all white garment churches are not the same. That's why I laid emphasis on the word 'some'. I also highlighted the practices which made those 'some' unbiblical.

AntiChristian:
All these have been debunked here, but you'll always bring it again and again...

So many typos despite your Holy Spirit!

Oya, let's see the debunking. Where is it? I'm ready to go all length with you to expose the lies of Mohammed regarding Moses and the Samaritans.

TenQ:
Have you noticed how he avoids answering ANY question that will put him in trouble by exposing the truth?

I tell you bro. He knows the truth but he loves the lies.

Baolak:
Lol....Your name should be changed to Mr Predictable . Like i said you are not communicating anything to me but just rant's....I am not angry, you are the least of all people that can make me angry, i encounter your kind on a daily basis. Truth is i am actually amused at your level of gullibility while also enjoying your predictable responses. Don't resort to emotional blackmail, it doesn't work for me...
If Jesus used the river for baptism and also performed significant miracle's tied to the River...then who are you to start ranting or dictating to me about how i utilize the River?
Has OTIPOJU not shown you several biblical verses where the usage of candles and incense are pronounced? Instead of you to learn, you had the guts to be modifying the word of God to suit your low mental capacity, And like he rightly said 'that heaven you want to enter na candles and incense dem dey on there, and na White garment you go wear' that's even if you qualify.
Revelation 4; 5
5 'And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.'

Why did Jesus enter inside the water for baptism, or why did he use mud and River to heal the blind when he should have just mentioned ' in Jesus name ' ? Since you are more concerned about what Jesus name can or cannot do , Rather than engage me with factual biblical intelligent response.
Did you not also gullibly refer to God as being dispensational in your previous replies (I.E we have 2 Gods, Old testament and New Testament God).... 😂 I put it to you that you don't even know 5% of who Jesus is, AFRICAN MAGIC JESUS, is what you and your kinds know with fake tongue twisting jargons.
Its not a problem to me If you dislike White garment church doctrines , not everyone is wise enough to discern and identify salvation. However don't go about intentionally spreading fake informations expecialy when you haven't worshipped or spent some quality time with them. Abi is it your AFRICAN MAGIC JESUS that has also inspired you to lie?
Weather you like it or not white garment churches (Celestial and C&S) are continuously expanding and winning more soul's for Christ and there's nothing you and your lots can do about it.
Lastly, i am throwing you an open CHALLENGE to come over to ikorodu garage round about where we have blind almajiris in multitudes, i expect you to mention 'the name of Jesus' ONLY and heal them instantly!... If you can do that, i will stop attending C&S and i will relocate to your church and believe in your doctrines!

I'm sure you're trying to defend your source of livelihood. I won't repeat the scriptural basis of those biblical events anymore. You can go back and read.

Can you now tell us the scriptural basis for binding candles to brooms. The scriptural basis for Miss Parish Fragrance and those other things you do that have no biblical reference. John, the revelator who saw the candles didn't use them, neither did he teach them to in his entire ministerial life. You actually know better than John. Kudos to you.

You're not serving the true God. You can get angry for all I care. The candies you use are used for conjuring demons just as in all occult gatherings where they use them.

You better seek the Lord and find Him. What do you need rivers and candies for? You're giving me a challenge because you're ignorant of the fact that all believers, who walk with God can work miracles. All I need to do is to pray in the name of Jesus. I just finished praying for someone right now. She danced out of my presence feeling very elated.

Look, a brother in-law of mine was robbed in Abuja with juju. He was stopped by some passengers while doing commercial transportation in Gwagalada. The hit him with juju and he was just looking like zombie. He couldn't talk. Just stating blankly into the air. The wife called me from Anuja, and I asked her to put the phone in her husband's ear. I commanded in the name of Jesus for the demon spirit to leave him. In less than 5 minutes, I received another call that he has been revived.

How can a true monster of the Gospel be putting a useless challenge to the word of the Lord Jesus that says 'This signs shall follow them that believe. In my name they'll cast out devils." (Mark 16:17-18 Paraphrased). Only a servant of hell can tell me he is challenging that promise of the Lord Jesus. "Let's see if you can heal someone using the name of Jesus alone." Very satanic utterance.

Why do you think people flood those Ministers in hundreds of thousands - Adeboye, Oyedepo, Olukoya, Enenche, Ibiyomie, etc. It's because they heal in the name of Jesus alone!

If you don't believe, visit those places and take a video coverage of what they do.

Anyone who can put up a challenge against the word of God is an enemy of God!

LegalWolf:
Loooooooooooool. you don’t have answer to my question and you want me to answer yours… is that ment or madness?

Cc: future thief TenQ sirtee15

No. I didn't say you should answer mine. I said you should help me answer your own question since I do not know the answer. Kindly take the floor.

LegalWolf:
Lol, please point to where you answered my very simple questions. It seems I missed it…🤣🤣🤣🤣


Let me cc my Nairaland friends: FxMasterz advocatejare sirtee15 and our only future thief TenQ 🤣

My jolly friend, let's do it this way:

In the court of Law, Questions and Responses are used to unravel who between any two parties is speaking the truth and who is Not.


Since you seem to know the History of the Samaritans AND do not accept the narratives of the Bible and secular history, kindly answer the following questions
1. According to the Samaritans, Who is the First king of Samaria and give the approximate date when he reigned?

2. The History of the Samaritans are varied so I have compiled three of their traditional beliefs for you (Please answer only the one you consider to be true).
a. Is it true that some Samaritans claim that Elah son of Baasha was the first king of Samaria?: [b]if this is true, who is Baasha?
OR
b. Is it true that some Samaritan sources mention that Joshua built the city of Samaria as the capital of the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh: if this is true, who was Joshua?
OR
c. Is it true that in some Samaritan traditions, the city of Samaria was named after a man named Semer (Shemer), who was a wealthy individual in the region: if this is true, who was the king that purchased the hill where the Capital of Samaria was established?


Note:
We want to go with the history of the Samaritans by the Samaritans themselves according to you. We would use the Samaritans claims themselves to further expose Mohammed.


Note: my mission is to make you see the truth. Please look into this questions in all honesty if indeed you're sincere about validating the claims Mohammed made about the Samaritans in relation to Moses.

LegalWolf:
Empty rambling with no substance. You still didn’t answer the question. Or did you?

Denying the answers make you happy. Isn't it?

Your Mohammed has been exposed. There was no Israel as a region or landed area in the days of Moses, let alone having a place within Israel called Samaria. Was there anyone called a Lagosian before Lagos State waa created? Or you had someone called a Nigerian in the 1600s when there was no place called Nigeria? Except that is possible then Mohammed might be correct.

You turned a blind eye to the Mary, sister of Aaron problem too? These are just two of the numerous problems in your so called holy book. What would you do if we offload all the problems on your head?

Oh, I just remembered you're asking a question about Europeans writing African history. I don't have an answer for that, kindly answer the question and let's see how it correlates with the truth that you've been running away from.

TenQ:
See how the Spirit of Anger and murderous rage has possessed him?
Thank God for the anonymous nature of NL, many of us would have been murdered as a sacrifice for Allah

I tell you bro. This one doesn't want to hear the truth at all. He just wanted to kill. That's all. Had it been we were in a physical open debate, we would have been 'gonners' by now.

TenQ:
Dear FxMasterz and SIRTee15 ,
You have allowed ILegal_Wolf to do what he likes best: change the topic of discussion and argue about frivolities. No amount of evidence from the bible can convince ILegal_Wolf EXCEPT when he is forced to answer questions: which he would do everything not to avoid. He is aware that the Samaritans have doctored some part of their history, thus he want to waste your time as you'd be too focused on the Bible to give him an answer.
Press him hard on just one Question at a time.


In the court of Law, Questions and Responses are used to unravel who between any two parties is speaking the truth and who is Not.

Therefore, your best bet is to make him answer your questions like.


Since ILegal_Wolf seem to know the History of the Samaritans AND he does not accept the narratives of the Bible, he should answer you with sources the following questions
1. According to the Samaritans, Who is the First king of Samaria and give the approximate date when he reigned?

2. The History of the Samaritans are varied so I have compiled three of their traditional beliefs for you (allow him answer only the one he considers as true).
a. Is it true that the some Samaritans claim that Elah son of Baasha was the first king of Samaria: if this is true, who is Baasha?
OR
b. Is it true that some Samaritan sources mention that Joshua built the city of Samaria as the capital of the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh: if this is true, who was Joshua?
OR
c. Is it true that in some Samaritan tradition, the city of Samaria was named after a man named Semer (Shemer), who was a wealthy individual in the region: if this is true, who was the king that purchased the hill where the Capital of Samaria was established?


Note:
You want to go with the history of the Samaritans by the Samaritans themselves according to ILegal-Wolf
1. Is this date consistent with Before the Time of Moses?

2a. Baasha is found in 1 Kings 15:33 He assassinated King Nadab, the son of Jeroboam, and taking the throne for himself.
2b. Meaning that Samaria was built after Joshua and never existed before Moses.
2c. The city of Samaria couldn't have existed before Semer (Shemer) as king Omri bought the hill from Semer 1 Kings 16:24

Either of these TWO questions lead you to ONE conclusion.
Samaria NEVER existed before Moses
AND
Quran 20:85
Said He (Allah): "Then [know that], verily, in thy (Moses) absence We have put thy people to a test, and the Samaritan has led them astray."
AND
Quran 20:95
[Moses] said, "And what is the matter with you Samaritan?"


The Quran 20:85 and Quran 20:95 are BOTH False: Is Allah a Liar and Fabricator?

Thank you TenQ. We would apply your style. But from the way he has become robotic with shaky European African analogy, he already has his tail between his two legs.

I'll await his mention and apply your suggestion.

LegalWolf:
LOL - I sense fear of defeat and failure. You know your position is logically indefensible.

First answer the question - WHICH VERSION OF HISTORY WOULD YOU PREFER: THE EUROPEAN ONE THAT CALLED YOUR ANCESTORS SAVAGES, MONKEYS AND UNCIVILISED ANIMALS OR YOUR TRIBE'S VERSION. AND PLEASE GIVE REASON (S) FOR YOUR ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thereafter, we will decide we will decide where we want to take you to with it.

Fear of what? If you think I'm responding to you for your sake alone, you're deceiving yourself. I'm responding so that everyone especially misled Muslims seeking the truth can find answers in what I write. I have already done a lot of justice while you kept asking robotic questions about Europeans and Africa that has no meaning.

I'll expose your Mohammed further. I can see you do not love the truth.

A Samaritan is someone who lived within the border of the place called Samaria. That means there's no Samaritan without an area called Samaria. Just the same way there's no Lagosian without an area called Lagos.

Now, tell the world how a Samaritan was with Moses and Aaron when when they were still on the way. At that time, there was no place called Israel, let alone having a place called Samaria. I guess Mohammed was a time traveller who saw the Samaritan city and the Samaritans living in them in the future ever before the place called Israel was founded.

Let me join this argument too into it. The story regarding Mary the mother of Jesus being the sister of Aaron in your Quran. The falsehood of this claim is the most obvious and thoughtless. That's because Jesus Christ was born at a time when the Romans ruled Jerusalem. He was born into the family of David. David himself lived about 1,200yrs before Jesus. Aaron lived about 800yrs before David. As I said earlier, Aaron never stepped his foot into the nation of Israel. Mariam whom Mohammed called the mother of Jesus was the elder sister to both Moses and Aaron. Since the mother of Jesus lived during the Roman empire, this means Moses, Aaron and Miriam the mother of Jesus lived in the days of the Roman empire. They were all in Jerusalem. They lived after David. Ceaser Augustus was their emperor. Herod was king over Moses and Aaron in Jerusalem.

And if you want to take it back. That is to put Jesus and Mary together in the time of Moses and Aaron, that means Jesus was born on the way to Canaan. Or perhaps He was born in Egypt ever before Israel became a nation. You and I know that such a position is gibberish.

I don't know how you guys reconcile this historical blunders to keep on believing that indeed the Almighty God wrote the quran. Or is your Allah not almighty again?

MohammadSAW:
I don't discuss Islam with INFIDELS !

You can only kill infidels. You don't care whether they'll become Muslims in the future or not. Allah can't save them, neither can he judge them after death. He has to use you to kill them so that he can be happy. He can't kill them himself too. For that killing you'll receive 72 virgins in paradise. Kudos to you. What a god?

If you don't discuss Quran with infidels, how do you want them to know the truth? I understand anyway, since there is no truth in your religion, there's nothing to discuss.

redsun:
That guy's days are numbered. Putin's tentacles will soon spike his food or blood He should never have given up his attempt to take over. However, whatever he's facing is the repercussion of his bloodthirstiness. He's a bloodsucker, and those that kill by sword, they say...

That's the mistake that man made. Such a mission should never be aborted because if you do, you would surely die. So, he was supposed to carry on and achieve his aim. Now, his life and that of his generals is in danger because of his folly. Even a civilian like me already got disaopointed in the man the moment I heard he aborted the mission. He shouldn't have started it then. If he starts, he must finish or else there's just one option for him - death.

LegalWolf:
PLEASE SFTU AND ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION - WHICH VERSION OF HISTORY WOULD YOU PREFER: THE EUROPEAN ONE THAT CALLED YOUR ANCESTORS SAVAGES, MONKEYS AND UNCIVILISED ANIMALS OR YOUR TRIBE'S VERSION. AND PLEASE GIVE REASON (S) FOR YOUR ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Simple as ABC and stop whining!!!!

Let me cc my Nairaland friends: FxMasterz advocatejare sirtee15 and our only future thief TenQ 🤣

The question makes no sense! It has no bearings with rhe matter we're discussing!

Let ma break it down for you.

The Europeans are outsiders who want to write history about another continent called Africa. The matter we're discussing is quite different. We're talking about tribesmen who disown a supposed clan. If you want to make analogies, make them logically equitable and absolutely comparative. Haha!! Aren't you a lawyer?

Bring a parralel analogy and I'll answer you!

But let me go a bit further to expose your Mohammed.

Samaria is a land area where the 10 tribes were located after the kingdom was splited into two. Samaria isn't a tribe. It is the name of a place in israel. Israel has only 12 tribes. When they were journeying from Egypt, they were only known or identified by their tribes. Israel had not been formed as a nation yet. They were just a group of 12 tribes journeying from Egypt. I hope that's clear enough.

There were no cities, towns or villages yet because they were not yet settled. There was no Gilead, Bethlehem, Rahma, Samaria or whatever. In the days of Aaron, they were only on a sojourn through the wilderness into Cannaan. No city or village yet. No town. For anyone to be called a Gileadite or a Samaritan, it means that individual belongs to an area in Israel called Gilead or Samaria respectively.

You should then ask yourself if those sojourners from Egypt pre-named a city Samaria ever before getting to Canaan, and then started calling some people Samaritans ever before they settled in that future area called Samaria? Moses and Aaron never entered Canaan themselves. They died on the way. That's to say, they died ever before israel could settle down and allocate land unto themselves. Now, tell us how they created the land of Samaria on their way to Canaan, and then pre-empted the settlers of Samaria as to start calling them Samaritans on the way.

SIRTee15:
TenQ already did a topic on it in the past but they ignored it.
Once u bring prove, they will vapourise.

Lol. The ones here on Nairaland particularly have a serious aversion for anything that smells like truth.

LegalWolf:
So, at the end of the day - you prove the obvious: you’ve got not intellectual capacity to answer two simple questions. Or do you want me to repeat them?

Stop dribbling and face the challenges poised at you. Everyone can read my responses to you already. If you have no capacity to counter my responses, go ahead and bring evidence for your Samaritan that was in Moses' entourage enroute Canaan!

LegalWolf:
LOL. It’s even your audacity for me!



So in essence, you’re just gbaing - vibes and in sha Allah with no substance. I should provide evidence for a claim you made… Lol, who were your teachers in school?

To my mind, your entire claim lies on the fact that absence of something (I.e non- mentioning of Samaritans) is proof that it doesn’t exist. Isn’t it? Lol!



Loooooooooool! This does not answer my simple question - would you prefer the European version of your history that your ancestors were uncivilised savages or your tribes version of your history’. It won’t take more than two lines.

PS: from your post, I’ll address inconsistencies in your thoughts process but please answer the simple question.

Let me cc my Nairaland friends: FxMasterz advocatejare sirtee15 and our only future thief TenQ 🤣

Lol. Dribbling as usual. You should face the challenge and stop making mindless references to European African analogy that makes no sense.

The absence of a Samaritan mention in the history of Israel is the absence of the Samaritan himself.

Give evidence to prove your Samaritan myth and stop dribbling. Even the Samaritans themselves pointed out that their existence was only as far as the time Israel splited into two Kingdoms. Now, how come Mohammed saw a Samaritan on the way to Canaan when Israel had not yet become a nation, not to talk of splitting into two Kingdoms? Please answer the question and stop dribbling.

SIRTee15:
There's no archeological or historical evidence to suggest Samaritans existed as a single entity prior to the invasion of Samaria by the Assyrians.
Nobody was called a Samaritan and no tribe were called Samaritans prior to the foreign invasion of Israel.
Do they exist as a different group or called by another name prior to 720 BC? Yes, but definitely not called Samaritans.

Samaritans themselves admit they are from the northern tribe of Israel. They only differ in the date of the split from Judah which they said occur during the time of prophet Eli when he moved the temple to Shiloh.
So if we are to admit their narratives, then we will assume Samaritans emerge in around 1000 BC which is 500 yrs after prophet Moses, so don't think your Koran has been rescued from it's blunder.

All ancient historians confirmed the Assyrian invasion of places like Samaria and meggido and exodus of captives. However, there were remnants who stayed behind as confirmed by the bible itself.

And Hezekiah sent to all Israel and Judah, and wrote letters also to Ephraim and Manasseh, that they should come to the house of the Lord at Jerusalem, to keep the passover unto the Lord God of Israel.

So the posts went with the letters from the king and his princes throughout all Israel and Judah, and according to the commandment of the king, saying, Ye children of Israel, turn again unto the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, and he will return to the remnant of you, that are escaped out of the hand of the kings of Assyria.
2 chronicles 30

These group, together with later Israelites returnees during the Persian empire formed the people called Samaritans.

2. Your 2nd questions shows u are a poor student of history. U need to understand history is never black or white, there a plenty shades of grey..u sieve thru to know the truth and facts.

Most Nigerian culture had mainly oral tradition with little or no written records of their history. This leaves room for exaggeration and supernatural folktales.
U can't just believe everything u are told.
For instance Oranmiyan staff is 18 feet tall, we were told he was a giant thus the reason his staff was that tall. In that case, we can assume Oranmiyan was the tallest man ever at around 20 feet or more. That doesn't make any sense.
Same way it won't make sense if u were told the oldest man in your village is 160 yrs old, u will take the info with a pinch of salt.

There is a reason written records usurps oral tradition.
Now if u looking for written records by racist and ignorant people about your people not backed by any reality on the ground....well good luck.

But I can show u written records of Portuguese who visited the benin empire and described the town as very clean with paved roads, street lights and effective drainage system.
There are records that showed west Africans produced cloths, textiles, soap and glass as far back as 15th century.
In fact, West Africa's biggest export to Europe prior to slave trade was textiles. It was when they banned cheap West African textile and soap into Europe to protect local producers that attention shifted to slave trade.
This are documented evidence by Europeans themselves.

I think we should even create a thread dedicated to this Samaritan argument and debunk this Mohammedian myth once and for all. How can anyone with sound knowjeh of Israeli history bekueve such nonesense that a Samaritan was in Moses' entourage from Egypt? The same way Mohammed referred to Mary the mother of Jesus as the sister of Aaron, obviously mixing Maryam and Mary together. I'm surprised that educated folks such as Lukuluku69, Drlateef, Vanessa7 legalwolf and antichristian cannot see through this falsehood.

TenQ:
Of course,
The average Christian is not aware that
1. Muslims are commanded by Allah and his prophet Muhammad to humiliate Christians and Jews and deny them their rights
2. Muslims are commanded by Allah and his prophet Muhammad to force Christians and Jews to pay them heavy Tax (Jizya) or else face execution
3. Christian and Jews are called Najis, Filthy, Pigs and Monkeys by Muslims according to Allah and his prophet Muhammad
4. Muslims can legally murder any Christian or Jews without fear of Retribution according to Allah and his prophet Muhammad

In love we educate Muslims to lead to their salvation and Christians to know what Islam truly is.

No wonder legalwolf is so vile in his posts. He must throw in one insult or the other to make his points.

gaskiyamagana:
You are kidding your brain not mine.

You're deceiving yourself. Not me. The narration is very plain in the Bible. Go read it! Anyone who has read the passages knows thst your friend is a lying mule.

LegalWolf:
LOL! You always lack substance...



Your rebuttal has absolutely no bearing to the question. As lawyers would say, the issue is a very narrow one and kindly help by providing very short and simple answer to my questions. I have now repeated them below.

Question:

1. What is your evidence that the Samaritans are falsifying their own history and the Jewish version of Samaritans history is correct? Please be concrete in your response.

2. Do you believe that the European version of your history is correct (that is you were an uncivilised savage) while your ancestors version of your tribe’s history is false?



Quite irrelevant to be honest.



Still no single shred of evidence in the bible for 'Adamic Seed' postulation you made, or is there?

Let me cc my Nairaland friends: FxMasterz advocatejare sirtee15 and our only future thief TenQ 🤣

1. The evidence that they're falsifying their own history is that no Samaritan was mentioned in Israeli history before the time of Omri king of Israel. You should provide evidence to the contrary to prove your own claims. Otherwise, you're the one whose claims carries no substance. You're the one to provide evidence of Samaritan history in Israel dating as far back as 3,500yrs to prove that a Samarian was indeed among Moses' entourage. I even made it easier for you. Provide evidence for a Samaritan in the days of Rehoboam, David's grandson. Stop dribbling me.

2. I have told you that your European African history analogy is thrash. We're not talking about someone telling another his history. We're talking about supposed tribesmen having conflicting stories about one another.

LegalWolf:
Lol, God bless your heart 🤣🤣🤣. You’re such a young boy. So the Samaritans are falsifying their own history and the Jewish version of Samaritans history is correct, isn’t it?

Let’s bring it back home, you believe that the European version of your history is correct (that is you were an uncivilised savage) while your ancestors version of your tribe’s history is false? Does this make sense to you?



Hahahahaha… in essence, you’re just pure vibes. Not a single biblical verse to support your claim. Do you now see why I treat you all like a filthy bin of abandoned trash? How fo you expect me to have conversations with you folks?

Let me cc my Nairaland friends: FxMasterz advocatejare sirtee15 and our only future thief TenQ 🤣

Your European-african analogy has numerous fault lines. While the Europeans are strangers from far away lands trying to write about Africa, Israel is a singular nation with the Samaritans claiming nationhood with Israel! If Israel cannot write about Samaritans, then Samaritans are no Israelites! The Samaritans ate claiming to be Israelites, and the Israelites say they don't know them. Do you want to force them on the Israelites? Bring your historical reference dating as early as Rehoboam's time, where Samaritans are mentioned in Israel's history as confirmation of their Israeli nationhood. Remember that, Mohammed even inserted Samaritans into the narrative as far back as Moses. I should be asking you for historical records dating as far as 3,500yrs.

Believe me, Muslims are very confused. That's how one Muslim was asking for validation for Mohammed when atheists started saying that Jesus Christ never existed. He was then asking if Mohammed existed as a challenge to the Atheists. It never occurred to him that if Jesus never existed, even Islam is in shambles.

If you want to know about Jesus' sinless nature, so many references abound in the Bible. Very numerous. Pulling them out for you is not hard but it would be of no use to you. Jesus Christ is called the second Adam for a reason. He is not a continuation of the first Adam because He is another Adam who came to terminate the adamkc nature and impart the divine nature into those who believe in Him.

Can you confirm from your Quran that Jesus was born of the Spirit of God? 'Allah said he blew his spirit into Mary's vagina'. That should give you a clue. Can you confirm that Jesus was a sinless man according to your Quran? If you can confirm these two, there's no need for further biblical references since you don't believe the Bible.

AntiChristian:
Who's talking about defense here?
I should go and compile all the abuses against us here?

Sorry!

You should get the abuses that were made without a reference to your books. We read straight from your books and tell you verbatim about who you worship.

Not the kind of lies you peddle about the Bible.

Where God cursed people because of their abominations, you claimed God assisted rapes. Where Israelites destroyed another Israelite town for their wickedness, you cried God supports violence even when God wasn't involved. Israel to Israel o. Not even Israel to another nation.

People took wives given to them by fellow Israelites to preserve their tribe from extinction, you were shouting rape. You mean Israelites were actually raping Israelites?

It's obvious you've been scouring the Bible for incidences and infractions similar to that of your Mohammed. When you found none, you decided to peddle lies like your Mohammed did about his Quran.

Mohammed was a confirmed rapist and paedophile. He was a caravan robber who also commited many murders. You want to find the replica of that in the Bible, and when you couldn't find, you have to spin some lies from Bible stories to make your Mohammed look good.

Keep deceiving yourself. Both you the liar, and the Mohammed you're lying for would suffer the same fate. And listen, the only difference between you and Mohammed right now is time.

AntiChristian:
Stop telling lies! You all have been abusing Allah, Islam and Muhammad!
And why should we defend Allah every time you vituperate nonsense?

No be every time we get time for your nonsense!

In what way did we abuse Allah and Mohammed? Was it not from the direct quotes from your books that we find the things you cannot defend?

LegalWolf:
Please what is your source for this postulation?

I do not want a repeat of David never heard the name Samaritans and your other wild claims. Please help us with a source.

Let me cc my Nairaland friends: FxMasterz advocatejare sirtee15 future thief TenQ

David never heard the name Samaritans, I repeat. Those Samaritans that are talking are just making things up. There's no historical record on any Samaritan even in David's time. Please unhearth any archeological find or historical records dating as early as the days of Rehoboam, David's grandson. Let's even leave David. That's still far away. Let's Get that of Rohoboam. During the days of Rehoboam, king of Judah, Jeroboam was king of Israel. Get this record and let's lay the matter to rest. Israel has a recorded history dating over 4,000yrs. The Samaritans are falsifying history in order to make themselves true Israelites when they're not. They should tell us which tribe they belong to. Israel has 12 tribes, and Samaritans are not descended from any of those 12 tribes. That's why the Jews dissociated themselves from them. They regard them as gentiles. It's impossible for an Israelite to regard his fellow Israelite as gentile. Absolutely impossible. In John 4, the Samaritan woman made a false claim that Jacob was their father. Jesus Christ Himself knew that it's a claim made to make them belong.

Now, back to the matter at hand. I have just told you the Biblical position of the question you've been asking. The Bible is my source for this postulation. That's why Jesus is called 'The Son of God.' He carried the divine nature, not the Adamic nature.

LegalWolf:
Hey potential thief …. I’m curious, does the gift of God under your doctrine includes salvation? How do you reconcile original sin - the preposterous idea that we inherited the sins of Adam - applies to Jesus as God (in your religion)? Didn’t he inherit the sin from Mary?

cc my Nairaland friends: FxMasterz advocatejare sirtee15 future thief TenQ

The sin which we inherit is in our nature. It's called the Adamic nature, and is passed on by man's seeds.

Jesus was incubated in Mary's womb but was not conceived by man's seeds. He was conceived of the Holy Spirit. Both the Bible and the Quran agree that Jesus was born of the Spirit of God. Both the Bible and the Quran also agree that Jesus was a perfect and sinless man. While the Quran cannot we explain sinlessness of Jesus, we're aware that He was sinless because He wasn't born of the Adamic seed. He didn't have the Adamic nature.

gaskiyamagana:
If not pointed out you will continue to attribute evil to Islam and Muslims. Some of you who have not read this are many on NairaLand and we will be silencing them with this from the Bible, one by one like you have been cornered.

While the passage above shows punishment by Israelites to fellow Israelites for forsaking God, Mohammed went on an acute journey of sexual pervasions.

There was no rape incident in the passage quoted. Antichristian is a liar. The people of Israel almost annihilated a tribe in Israel for raping a woman to death and commiting abomination in Israel. After they have severely punished the tribe, they found out that the tribe was in danger of being wiped out. To preserve the tribe, they allowed the few men that remained in the tribe to take women from a tribe of Israel that was not part of a national vow (the vow was that no man in Israel would give his daughter to a Benjamin for wife). This means the tribe of Benjamin would soon go extinct. To guide against that, the Benjamin were allowed to go take a wife of the tribe that want part of that vow. There was no tape incident recorded. The guy is a liar like his Mohammed.

TenQ:
LegalWolf will NEVER answer ANY Islamic doctrinal question! He will just be twisting and turning NEVER making a direct response to the question posed to him.
He thinks displaying his shallowness like this make him look smart he doesn't know that such disposition make him look Ignorant.

One would have expected a Lawyer to use the sharia to defend the ayah of the Qur'an but unfortunately, he is empty of knowledge of Islam

Your observation is right. Legalwolf neveranswers any question.poised from the Quran. He just dots around the thread shouting TenQ this, TenQ that without touching the subject matter.