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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 7:43pm On Nov 02, 2017

My husband and I applied for renewal via dropbox and got the dreaded mail asking us to collect our passports and schedule an interview.

Previous Visa
Location: Lagos
Purpose of travel: Business
Year issued:2015

Current application
Location: Abuja
Purpose of travel: Business

Na so we go our interview today. I gathered my "burden of proof" (thank you Zoemummy for your very detailed checklist) in a folder- very neatly arranged and labelled smiley The interview was quite long and honestly nerve-racking.

VO: Please pass your passports
VO: What is your relationship?
DH: We are married
VO: How long have you been married?
DH: 2years+

VO looks into her computer and types for a while then looks at us and goes "What of your child?"

In my mind I am like "Madam, I know where you are going- no worry"

Me: He is a US citizen and does not need a visa (Let the drilling begin!!!)
VO: How many times have you gone to the US and how long did you spend?
Me: Twice. Spent a week the first time and
VO: You gave birth in your second trip
Me: Yes

VO: How much did it cost you?
Me: About $15k in all (I had an excel sheet with my actual spend. I had done it to compare our proposed and actual spend in the US after we came back. This $15k included accommodation in US, flight tickets for DH and I)
VO: Do you have proof of this?
Me: Yes!

I reached into my neatly arranged folder, brought out the financial excel sheet and all my receipts. I handed over the excel sheet to her. She glanced through and asked for the receipts.

VO: How much exactly did the hospital charge
Me: $3000 and the Doctor charges were about $1500
VO: Do you have an ITEMIZED BILL?

At this point eh, my heart started beating so loudly, I could swear everyone could hear it!

Me: I was not given an itemized bill. These are all the receipts I was given
VO: No, All hospitals give itemized bills. Did you give birth in a Hospital?
Me: Yes, I gave birth at St.Francis Medical Centre
VO: All hospitals give itemized bills

hian- at this point eh, e be like say the heart wan comot from the chest...lol
Me: That is all I was given
VO: Did you mention at your last interview that you will be giving birth in the US?
Me: I was not pregnant at the time. I got pregnant way after that interview
VO: When was your child born
Me: He is not even one yet. (I told her the date)

She checked her system- maybe to calculate if I was saying the truth about not being pregnant at the time of interview. She started typing and typing and typing....

VO turns to my DH: What do you do? and What do you earn
DH told her

VO back to me: Where do you work
Me: told her. (it is a very well known organisation)
VO: What is your background
Me: I told her (I guess she asked my background because you would not think people in my profession would work in my organisation)

Aunty continued typing and typing.

VO: Are you pregnant?
Me: No
VO: Will you be going for medical care in the US
Me and DH: At least not now

VO: what are you going to do in the US
Me: I will be attending the xyz conference (the same conference i got the visa for)

another round of typing

She takes my passport and flips through it (I really am quite the traveller)

VO: What did you go to do in Tanzania?
Me: Presented a paper at a conference there
VO: What city
Me: told her

Type type type

VO: I will be approving your visas but I have made a NOTE HERE THAT YOU CANNOT USE THIS VISA TO ACCESS MEDICAL CARE IN THE US

Me: Thank you.



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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 3:26pm On Nov 02, 2017
Mehn...

These Abuja VOs are NOT smiling.

I had my follow up interview today.... Will post details soon
Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Fyorgyn: 2:23pm On Oct 31, 2017
1x24:

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Hello 1x24

I saw a thread on nairaland about two years by one oyibo "naija wife". I did a quick search on nairaland and found it again.

https://www.nairaland.com/2771035/niger-wives#44892930

hope this helps
Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 4:21pm On Oct 23, 2017
shrekandfiona:

I paid about 8K in all. No, he didn't ask for receipts so i didn't show any.

Don't worry you'll be fine.


Thanks a lot.
Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 3:39pm On Oct 23, 2017
shrekandfiona:

hi dear smiley my location is Abuja so all took place here.

I was sent a text and email to pick up passport and schedule an interview attached with the 221g form. So yes, i picked up my pasport before the interview.

I had the interview on the 1st of August, that same 1st in the evening, i got a pick up text and email. That means my visa was ready same day though I picked it on the 2nd. No I didn't ask the VO to fast track it as my travel date is still far.

So dearie, don't worry its just a follow up interview nothing like the 1st time. All the best...

Thank you so much dear. I am also in Abuja

I saw where you wrote that you were only asked two questions. How much you paid and if you are going for another missionary journey tongue

Biko, how much did you pay in all and did you show your receipts?

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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 11:25am On Oct 22, 2017
Hello @shrekandfiona

Did you have to get your passport back from dhl before the post-drop box interview?

Please you mentioned that you had y[img][/img]our interview on the 1st of August and your passport was returned on the 2nd. Did you ask the VO to fast track?

Did you have your interview in Abuja or Lagos?

Thanks

Mehn, going through your postsssss was very enlightening...Lol
Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 11:18am On Oct 22, 2017
ugoguchy:


Same thing here,my passport was returned and stamped cancelled without prejudice,i pray to share my goodnews

Amen!

Did you apply with your husband? Was he given? Mine wasn't.

Shrekandfiona also had a post dropbox interview and she was given.
Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 10:32am On Oct 22, 2017
ugoguchy:
I applied for renewal of visa via dropbox and i was told to schedule a follow appointment;my question is why was i asked to come for an interview,when i got the visa i was asked if i was going to use the visa for childbirth purpose and i said yes and d VO even gave me a form that had all the requirment needed for medical purpose,i used the visa to travel 3 times,vacation first and 2 childbirth and also i always tell them at the POE am here for childbirth,am a bit confused as why i was asked to book a follow up,beause i never hid my intentions,please has anyone had this experience and how was it ,i have my appointment for Thursday..

Hi, was your passport returned to you?

I was also asked to book a follow-up interview. My passport was returned to me and my expired visa was stamped "cancelled without prejudice".

I got my visa for a conference and used it for the purpose... travelled to give birth more than a year later.

I guess they just want to make sure we paid our bills.... Please see zoemummy's post for her own post drop box interview

Please lets know how your interview goes.
Travel / Re: U.S. Non-immigrant Visas: We’re Listening by Fyorgyn: 7:52pm On Oct 20, 2017
LagosNIV:
Hello Fyorgyn -

We do our best to accomodate travelers who have imminent travel plans, and sometimes we are able to print visas faster than 3 days. There are some parts of the process which are out of the control of the individual Embassies and Consulates, so sometimes we are not able to speed the process much. Let the consular officer who interviews you know that you would like to have it printed that day if possible, and we will generally do our best to do so.

Thanks LagosNIV.
Travel / Re: U.S. Non-immigrant Visas: We’re Listening by Fyorgyn: 12:55pm On Oct 20, 2017
Dear AbujaNIV and LagosNIV

Thanks for patiently answering our many queries.

Please is it possible to get one's approved visa faster than the stipulated three days?

I have a meeting to attend in the US on the 5th of November. I applied to renew my visa via dropbox but was sent a mail (14days later) to collect my passport back from dhl and schedule an appointment (221g). Unfortunately, the closest available date is November 2. I contacted the call centre and was told that 221g applicants are not eligible to request for an expedited date.

If I attend the interview as scheduled on the 2nd and the visa is granted can I get my passport back the same day?
Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 8:10am On Oct 20, 2017
kaakaa:


I doubt they will call you for interview, bc you used the visa for what you got it for and when you later went for delivery, you told the cpb, so no they wont call you.
You will have to explain to the cpb when you travel for vacation why you didn't complete your bill though, you can explain that you intend to sort it out on this journey as it was a discrepancy blablabla.

I don't know if this is exactly true.

I got my visa Sept 2015 for a conference. Went for the conference in October 2015 and stayed for just 5days. Got pregnant March 2016, travelled Oct 2016 to give birth. Sent notifications of intent AND declared at POE.

Applied for renewal as I need to attend a meeting in the US but was called for follow up interview.

Na where I dey now be that.

Point is, no one can predict who they will call and who they won't

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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 9:37pm On Oct 19, 2017
zoemummy:



So based on all the feedback I received during my last post..

Thanks so much for this very very informative post.

Please was your passport returned to you before the interview?

I applied for dropbox two weeks ago and got a mail yesterday asking me to pick up my passport and schedule an appointment. I will get my passport from dhl tomorrow.

I asked about 4 friends who had been interviewed after dropbox and none of them had to pick up their passports before the interview.
Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 10:38am On Aug 22, 2017
cutelass:


Saw you were in LA nov- jan (how is the weather)? extremely cold?

Nah... it wasn't that cold. Some days were cold (not "winter" cold- a warm sweater should suffice), and some days were quite sunny.



Also saw from your post, you got to hospital at about 1am and gave birth 17 hrs later...how long after delivery were you discharged and did you pay any extra? My reason for asking being that the bill sent by Dr M's assistant to me few days ago indicated 1 day for VD...don't know how that is calculated.

Yes! It's now one day for VD. I did give birth 17hours later... however, it was still within the same day. In addition, the baby is usually "monitored" for 24hours... so I did not need to pay extra. I gave birth at about 6pm and was discharged the next day.


Finally with the change in hospital management, are they still giving free umbrella stroller?

Yes, I got a free stroller.

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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 12:30am On Aug 22, 2017
cutelass:


used them last yr and will be using them again soonest. you don't contact the hospital, till you are on ground to sign the self pay contract. You rather contact the dr, he gives you all info you need before you actually visit the hospital.


Hello cutelass... how's our miracle baby?

You know, last year, when I was planning my missionary journey, I was leaning towards going to Texas until I read your post.

It was your story that drew my attention to Dr M and LA.

Thank you for sharing your miracle story.

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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 11:00pm On Aug 20, 2017
urblackpearl:


Wow! Thanks

You're welcome
Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 10:18pm On Aug 20, 2017
urblackpearl:


Packing for my missionary journey. Please advise on the items I should pack. I will appreciate any tips.
Ok.. so different strokes for different people.

First things first... please make a list. It is very important so you do not forget anything.

1. Documents

Very important... fit to fly, medical test results, employment letter (if applicable), correspondence with US doctors, receipts of payment where applicable, bank statements etc sometimes they ask and other times they don't. It's better to be safe than sorry

2. Food

Personally, I only took ijebu garri and powdered milk (difficult to find in the US) I was not ready for any unnecessary delays...

3. Baby stuff
My missionary journey was end of last year when dollar was hard to come by (no pta from bank or traveled... at a point sef even bdc malams didn't have dollars)... so I reckoned it was wiser to spend in naira as much as possible. I bought basic baby things in Nigeria o... baby soap, Vaseline, cream (I use shea butter), few newborn clothes and other basics

4. Mummy stuff

Your personal effects.



Also, people with L.A. POE experience should please share.

I entered through LA... look through my previous posts for my POE experience.


I plan going with 4k cash with additional 6k in my cards

I had $70 and a few pounds cash on me (yes! $70) but had enough money in my dollar and UK bank accounts

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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 8:01pm On May 24, 2017
On the issue of Nigerian banks and US citizenship...

It just occurred to me that the reason our banks may not want the complication of a US citizen's (baby) account is the Foreign Account Tax Compliant Act (FATCA)..

It is an interesting act that kind of compels foreign financial institutions (FFI) to provide the IRS with information on US citizens for tax purposes or risk being slammed a 30% withholding tax on all US sourced income.

Because of this "strict" penalty many banks are simply refusing to do business with Americans to save themselves the administrative headache of reporting the accounts.

CBN sent out a circular in January 2015 advising our financial institutions to comply with FATCA.

So, yes, even your baby's bank account has to be reported to IRS. For instance a six month old american citizen in Canada got a letter from the bank her parents opened an account for her that she needs to comply with fatca...lol.

See the following links for more info

http://www.myfinancialintelligence.com/opinion/fatca-why-financial-institutions-nigeria-should-care

https://www.quora.com/What-is-FATCA-Foreign-Account-Tax-Compliance-Act-What-is-its-reasoning-and-need

https://www.angloinfo.com/blogs/global/us-tax/2452-2/

http://ipolitics.ca/2016/04/14/so-now-the-cra-is-going-after-infants/

See the price our American children have to pay? Even if they grow up and remain in Nigeria they still have to pay tax somehow.


Note: I am NEITHER a banker NOR lawyer. I have no idea or experience how the banking sector works.

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Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by Fyorgyn: 1:17pm On May 23, 2017
VictoriaRi:


You are welcome.

Oh you can actually reapply immediately. A friend of mine did that (different circumstances though). She was going for a conference sponsored by her office and was initially denied. She re-applied immediately and explained her situation in the ds160. She was granted.

So, yes I think you can reapply and state your case clearly in the DS160

All the best
Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by Fyorgyn: 12:00pm On May 23, 2017
VictoriaRi:

I had my interview for a B2 visa last week to visit my boyfriend (American). Unfortunately however, I wasn't granted. Reason given was, I quote, '' You're a pretty, single lady and you work for yourself so you don't have strong ties ''.

Phew! So sorry about the refusal.

You do have an interesting profile... funny enough, that's where the problem lies.

It's great that you work for yourself and you are obviously doing well on your own. However, you work in marketing and advertising... it does mean that you can work remotely which is a red flag... think the VO was probably wondering what exactly would be your motivation to come back.

Many people go to the US on a B visa, get married and then adjust status... so the VO will have to be convinced that you do not have any INTENT TO IMMIGRATE.

see these posts from quora.

https://www.quora.com/Can-I-get-married-in-US-ON-A-B1-tourist-visa-and-later-convert-to-dependant-visa

https://www.quora.com/Is-getting-married-to-a-US-citizen-while-in-the-US-with-a-tourist-visa-legal-And-does-this-automatically-make-one-a-citizen

So, because it is a big possibility to get to the US and "change your mind" the onus lies on you to convince the VO otherwise.

My advise?
a. Can your boyfriend come and visit you in Nigeria? Have you been dating for long?
b. You can apply again (after he visits) and make a strong case in your form when explaining why you were refused.

All the best
Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 9:10am On May 21, 2017
cutegold:
Hello Guys. Anyone have a hospital to give birth in Los Angeles? Kindly help with name Nd cost. Thank you smiley

There is a lot of info on giving birth in LA on this thread- do a quick search and then ask questions for clarification if you have any.

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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 9:08am On May 21, 2017
cutegold:
Hello Guys. Anyone have a hospital to give birth in Los Angeles? Kindly help with name Nd cost. Thank you smiley

There is a lot of info on giving birth in LA on this thread- a quick search will help you.

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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 4:11am On May 13, 2017
TK Mama... how body na...



TripleKMama:
Darist her oh.
TKM Jnr turned 6mo yday so I came to check dollar rate. #OkBye smiley

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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 11:57pm On Apr 28, 2017
Austine2020:
I wonder why people always asks this question about driving in the US, U are in the US to have your baby,why driving? why cant they do what they came to do and leave to Nigeria and then drive as they like? instead of coming to foreign mans land with non immigrant visa and create one problem or the other for yourself in the name of driving,. What if u hit someone with the car? the next thing will be to put the blame on Devil,. I think people should avoid all these driving things and face what they come to do,. My Opinion though.

Sometimes, it is more convenient and cheaper (on the long run) to rent a car and drive especially in parts of America where public transportation is virtually nonexistent. My cousin stayed with family and almost regretted it afterwards. She was paying as high as $200 on taxi just to get to the closest mall or something.

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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 9:13am On Apr 04, 2017
TWoods:


Interesting.

Welcome back Twoods... e don reach one week (or more) since ur last post. I don miss you no be small...

I really do enjoy reading your posts smiley
Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 6:38pm On Mar 07, 2017
ojceskills:
Hello..Are your parents literate?? if yes then pick the option that they filled themselves because they would have been able to anyway..you just helped with the manual labor( I hope they reviewed your inputs though) but if they are not literate then you have to fill in your name as the person who filled the form on their behalf....


Hmm. My mum is very literate but I filled the form for her and indicated as such. She still went through it of course but the TRUTH is she did NOT fill it herself

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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 10:43pm On Mar 06, 2017
Babatwi:
Pls those that filled ds 160 form for their parents,what was your answer where they were asked if they filled the form themselves?

I filled for my mum and indicated so on the form.

My answer was NO.

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Family / Re: Why Women Hide Money From Their Husbands! by Fyorgyn: 2:46pm On Mar 04, 2017
Interesting but shallow article. I am of the opinion that the writer should have explored other reasons women "hide" money.

There is an age-old saying that "Every (good) woman should have a "secret stash" her husband knows nothing about.

Men and women are fundamentally different. Many men, bless their hearts, live for the moment... they believe if you have it, spend it! They are risk takers who can spend their last dime without thinking twice. A wise woman keeps resources aside because one day, the family business might need a cash boost, a job might be lost, the car engine might knock etc

Another reason women keep money is to have an "escape" fund. You don't pray to have a divorce or a bad marriage but many have used their "secret stash" to flee abusive marriages.

Women keeping secret stash is not peculiar to Nigeria alone. It's a really old "tradition" that has passed from generation to generation of women the world over. For instance, in this usnews article, the writer says her grandmother advised her to have one.
http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/alpha-consumer/2008/03/19/should-women-keep-a-secret-money-stash.

Almost every woman I know keeps a secret stash with very good intentions. I used to have secret stashes but recently I realized it wasn't really fair to my husband who is very open with me about his financies. I still keep money but it's not really secret. He doesn't ask me about it and he has no idea how much I keep aside. He just knows it's for contingencies. We have come to that understanding.

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Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by Fyorgyn: 3:09am On Feb 25, 2017
abujaniv:
Hello LEX4352. My advice to you is to save your money and never apply for a visa to the US.


Wow LEX4352... This is one weighty sentence.

The words "NEVER APPLY" struck me. A quick search shows your full personal details here on nairaland. Now, even if you want to go visit genuinely or even to study sef, you have shot yourself in the foot. You've been marked mehn!!!!

I don't condone illegality but one should learn to, as much as possible, avoid putting personal details on forums like this. Apart from making yourself an easy target for scammers, your comments can inadvertently put you in trouble, make you lose out on jobs, opportunities and even visas!
Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 6:25pm On Feb 03, 2017
mimimum:


I want to be sure that I can use my B1/B2 visa for birthing later this year. I got my visit visa in October last year with my little son, we used it for vacation in November without hubby. I wasn't pregnant at the time. Please help me, because I keep seeing B2 visa alone coming up here.

You should be fine. I got a B1/B2 to attend a conference in September 2015. I went for the conference and came back,got pregnant in 2016 and used it for birthing.

I did write a notification of intent but I don't think it is absolutely necessary especially as you've used the visa for its intended purpose.

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Travel / Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by Fyorgyn: 9:05pm On Feb 02, 2017
smog1:
Evening house, pls can kindhearted person(s) in the house kindly give me a comprehensive tutorial on how to fill a DS-160 form for family and schedule a date for them?
Thanks

The most comprehensive and reliable information (tutorial) is on
http://www.ustraveldocs.com/ng/ng-niv-ds160complete.html

Everything you need is there!

Also, the frequently asked questions (FAQs) on the site is an excellent resource ( http://www.ustraveldocs.com/ng/ng-gen-faq.asp#qlistgen9). Most
of the questions asked here have been clearly answered there. Lady G, Justwise can I suggest we add it to page 1?
Travel / Re: U.S. Immigration Questions: Ask A U.S. Consular Officer by Fyorgyn: 5:08pm On Feb 02, 2017
VisaOfficer:

This is similar to getting a movie ticket at the Palms: There are many tickets available, but you still have to wait in line to get one.

Regards,
VO

This cracked me up.

Thank you so much for your simple, clear and unambiguous answers.

Keep up the good work!

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Travel / Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 5 by Fyorgyn: 3:44pm On Jan 29, 2017
freshdad:
Good morning good people, please has anyone flown on Air maroc and how is there services as regards long layovers and all. DW is leaning towards them due to the shorter time of travel to JFK(spending less time up in the air). I would have preferred Turkish as there fares are almost the same as the air maroc but she doesnt want to sit in for too long as she is going to be alone on this leg.

Any help please?

I'm a very frequent traveller and a very cheapskate. As thrifty as I am I don't know if I'd ever ever ever fly air maroc again. I bought a one way ticket from London to Lagos and it was the worst journey I have ever embarked on.

To drop luggage at Heathrow was wahala... they were not organised at all. The plane from London was like the ones Aero use for local flight... I cannot even remember if we were given anything to eat and there was no in-flight entertainment.

When we got to Casablanca walahi it was like we were rushing for molue...very disorganized and all.

I don't know if you want to subject your wife and baby to the stress of air maroc. Quite frankly, you get what you pay for. It didn't pain me too much sha because it was a very very cheap ticket considering I was buying one way.

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