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ak47mann: so ogonis are no more Nigerians? because they still share the same flag and anthem or else you are now their spokes man...What are you talking about? They declared independent autonomy, meaning they are Nigerian but self Governing...What are you getting at? |
All these pro Biafra groups seem to just be milking money out of the Biafra movement. What is so hard about declaring Biafra? Ogoni said they will declare Independent autonomy in May and in August it happen. Bakassi said the same and a few month later did it, Same with south Sudan, Kosovo, Montenegro etc. But with Biafra, its been decade after decade. No new country created but rather a new pro Biafra organisation created even week, Really. |
rdokoye: Just admit you were wrong and move on; don’t try and shift the goal post, because your initial argument was about funding for the project.I'm not shifting the goal post. All I'm saying is that there is no way Fifa's Goal Project will ever fund an international stadium. Its not what the program is about nor is it what they do. Either the government is involve and they pay for the stadium or the government is not involve and Fifa builds a training pitch and facilities and the newspapers are blowing things out of proportion. I think there will be less confusion if people actually know and research what Fifa goal projects are. |
BlackPikiN: Ohh f0rk!!!Fifa Goal Project is funding the project but the Fifa Goal project does not build/fund large stadiums. They construct and fund Football pitches, facilities and programs to develop football in the region, they DO NOT build or fund large stadiums. So its either the newspaper is blowing things out of proportion and their just going to build a pitch and some facilities or the government is building a large stadium with fifa assisting. http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/footballdevelopment/projects/goalprogramme/index.html |
kutchs: And you think the international stadium when built can not bring about this ur so called development? Listen serious govts do not concentrate all attention on one sector alone, diversiication is key to national development. Pple have kald for international world class sporting facilities to improve the dev. of sports in the country, why u cant view this in line with dat call is only known to you. I will say good job Obi, bring it to fruition and my Imo will tap in.Can you care to explain in detail how building a multi billion Naira stadium will lead to the development of Roads, schools, drainage, potable water, Security etc. Also can you care to explain how Anambra can afford to build a stadium with a yearly budget of only $65 billion naira ($400 million)? Do you know how much a world class stadium cost? Like I said misplaced priorities!!!! |
Complete waste of funds and misplaced priorities. I still dont understand why these people build stadiums that no one can even afford to watch, just look at NPL matches. When the bulk of Anambra is yet to see any sign of development the state government will rather waste billions on a stadium. Pathetic |
@Onlytruth The OP stated that the whole reason why the Southern Protectorate was merge with the Colony of Lagos was because the British wanted to use the resources of the southern protectorate to develop Lagos. He believe that colony of lagos was poor and lacked funds which is completely incorrect. not only was Lagos the economic trade Hub of west Africa due to its ports back in the 1900 but it was a well developed crowned colony. The colony of Lagos was annexed to Great britian meaning the people of lagos were British subjects and enjoyed the rights of British citizens. The colony of lagos also had its own executive council who governed lagos. On the other hand the protectorate of southern Nigeria was not Annexed and remained a protectorate. Being a protectorate the people living there did not have british citizenship but they were ruled by british. Even after the merge a small Legislative Council was set up just for lagos to help the british citizens of Lagos Colony to enacting Laws and scrutinising estimates and expenditure seperate from the South protectorate. Hence why after the merge it is call the colony and protectorate of southern Nigeria. So to say Lagos was a the parasite in the merging is wrong, the were self governed and a economic hub. As early as 1886, when Lagos Colony was separated from the Gold Coast, an Executive Council for the Lagos Colony was established. But Frederick Lugard had reduced the powers of this Executive Council to the status of a Legislature. In 1906, when the Lagos Colony was merged with the Protectorate of Southern Nigeria, the competence of this Legislative Council was extended to cover Lagos and the Southern Protectorate. In order to compensate the inhabitants of the Lagos Colony who were de jure British subjects and enjoyed the rights of British citizens, a small Legislative Council for Lagos Colony was introduced for the purposes of enacting Laws and scrutinising estimates and expenditure. The Legislative Council consisted of ten official and six unofficial members.http://www.onlinenigeria.com/links/LinksReadPrint.asp?blurb=633 |
mbatuku2: Abi o. Some people just want to do copycats without knowing if it's the best for them. No wonder you see some silly nigerians building houses with black roofs! You dont build houses with bad roofs (tar)in the tropics. Black body absorbs heat. You should build with a material that can reflect heat back to the atmosphere, not absorb it into the building.Actually its not tar its Asphalt shingles that homes in the USA use and they come in different colors, not just black. You can use Asphalt shingles in tropical zone as is the case with Florida, Texas and a few Mexican surburbs. But like someone already said, clay roof tiles are the best options mainly for the material properties. But what I find striking is that many Nigerian homes dont have insulation of any kind. Insulation is not just for cold climates its also for hot climates. It helps keep the cool air inside of your home longer and reduces the chances of thermal bridging. |
It all depends on the type of metal your using and if it was treated or not. But in many Nigerian cities and villages they seem to use cheap untreated metal that will barely last a year. not only does metal rust but it also absorbs heat radiation easily and in a wet, humid and hot climate like Nigeria I'm not sure why people use it. Many homes in the united states use asphalt shingles because not only are they cheap but they also have a long life span. Also the "paper" that someone mentioned earlier is either Rigid Insulation or A water proof membrane or a combination of the two. |
According to the British government the colony of lagos was the city of lagos at least in the beginning. It was though that Lagos might make a suitable alternative as it had a good harbour and as they had recently aided the king their in his battle for the throne......The Royal Navy set up a base their in 1861. Lagos would prove to be a strategically useful and became a large commercial hub in itself [/b]as traders realised that they could expect the protection of the Royal Navy to protect them from pirates or other troublemakers. It would also demonstrate Britain's commitment to the area to other European nations interested in colonising the area. The French were trying to expand their influence and from the 1880s the Germans would also try to move into the area. Britain's military and commercial presence in the area was enough to allow them to claim a protectorate over the area at the Berlin Conference of 1885.http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/lagos.htm Slaves freed by the Royal Navy when they captured slave trading vessels in the 1830es settled at the coast of western Nigeria, a.o. at LAGOS; British missionaries and traders followed. In 1851 the Royal Navy interfered in a local power struggle, deposing King Kosoko. In 1861, Britain proclaimed a PROTECTORATE over Lagos to keep Kosoko from coming back. |
Obiagu1: The map was British not a Nigerian map and was made before you were born.Thats my point, It was the Niger Coast protectorate that owned the bayelsa area, they never bought that land from the Royal Niger company because they had always owned it. That is why I said the creator of your map made a mistake, The Royal Niger company never owned the bayelsa area. Also the map is dated 1898 and the amalgamation happen in 1900. So this map was made before the merge and before the british started buying back the land, meaning the map creator made a mistake. |
Obiagu1: You are only trying to be mischievous by claiming that the history was confusing. It's as clear as black and white unless you have issue with comprehension. I wasn't claiming the history was confusing I was saying some off the information on the internet was wrong. Some website were taking about the colony & protectorate of S.Nigeria but they kept writing Protectorate of S. Nigeria. If anything I'll admit I was wrong because I'm not like these other Nairaland fools who continues an argument regardless. On your second point, if you can't read, can't you see too? The map I posted showed clearly that the remaining part of Royal Niger company not yet in control of Niger Coast Protectorate covers just a small area that is Bayelsa. Niger Coast Protectorate included the whole SE, Calabar, Port Harcourt, Ibibio land, Edoland and Warri etc. Get your glasses Mister! The remaining Royal Niger Company was given up forming Protectorate of Southern Nigeria (just a name change from Niger Coast Protectorate). This is what I'm talking about, various articles state that the Niger Coast Protectorate was located in the Niger Delta and the Royal Niger Company controlled the mainland. It even states that Onitsha was a primary port of the Royal Niger protectorate . Also postal system in Akassa, Calabar, Burutu and Lokoja were part of the Royal Niger Company postal system. I think your map is incorrect and had the two mixed up. |
Obiagu1: See a new map above your post. (Thanks Remii for the map, I've been looking for itYes I saw that map on an article on Nigeria Village Square. Other articles kept mentioning the colony and protectorate of S.Nigeria as the Protectorate of S.Nigeria, Hence the bit of confusion on my part. Also The Royal Niger Company owned land in the SE, SS, SW, and parts of northern Nigeria but only the land in the SS and SE were merge, another reason for the confusion. But to say the colony of lagos is a parasite is misleading, the Main reason the British colonized Lagos was because of the port and the economy. Also based on your argument wont it be the Amalgamation of 1900 be the blame. Since the Niger Coast Protectorate (oil producing SS) who produced the oil and the Royal Niger Company (SE & Non oil producing parts of SS) didn't? So technically going by your logic its the Royal Niger Company (SE & part of SS) who are also the parasites.... |
Obiagu1: Stop grasping at straws, you are not part of Southern Nigeria Protectorate!Um i'm not yuroba, I'm esan. Anyway I think the main focus of this argument is what amount of land the colony of lagos covered, and I read a few articles that conflict each other. I think some of the articles may have been confusing the colony and protectorate of souther nigeria with the protectorate of southern nigeria they may have been |
Obiagu1: You're just twisting history.How I'm i mixing things up? To Simplify.... Southern Nigeria Protectorate = Merge between Niger Coast Protectorate and Royal Niger Company Royal Niger Company = current day SW,SE and parts of SS Niger Coast Protectorate = Parts of SS (Bayelsa and rivers area) Lagos Colony = City of Lagos and land around it Also your map doesn't show any inland territorial borders? |
Obiagu1: Is Ilorin part of Colony and Protectorate of Southern NigeriaNo, the point of that quote was to show you that the British (Royal Niger Company) did control all of yorubaland and that the Colony of Lagos was only limited to Lagos. |
"After two final incidents, the bombardment of Oyo in 1895 (Ayandele, 1967) and the capture of Ilorin by the Royal Niger Company in 1897, effective colonial control was established throughout most of Yorubaland." http://www.onwar.com/aced/nation/ink/ibadan/fwestafricanwar1877.htm This is the same Royal niger company that also controls much of southern nigeria |
Obiagu1: No it does not include SW. The Colony of Lagos covers SW.No your wrong, the south west was part of the Royal Niger Company after the British captured the area. The Royal Niger Company was later merge with the Niger Coast Protectorate to form the Southern Nigeria Protectorate in 1900. The colony of lagos only included the lagos area and not the entire SW. |
I thought the Protectorate of Southern Nigeria did include the SW expect for Lagos. The Colony of Lagos was not the entire SW but on the city of Lagos and the area around it. |
xcitedjay: do you think that if they had made all these things you mentioned(qualifications, merits, years experiences, Education level, Job expertise, Licensing etc) the criteria for Nigerians getting their independence we would be where we are today?Yes, like I said instead of them to keep blaming the oil companies why dont they blame the government, by holding the gov accountable and making sure they develop the region. If the government actually develop the area investors from different sectors will invest in the niger delta, creating a diverse economy of different sectors. So they wont have to worry about fishing or oil job but they will have a variety of job sectors to choose from. Years experience is the amount of years you spent working at a particular sector or job. Job employers look for people who have more years of experience because it means they had many years of hands on experience and knowledge in the field. Education level is what type and how many degrees you have. Someone with a PHD has a better chance of getting a job than a person with a bachelors or secondary school diploma. Also some degrees are accredited by a rating board and some degrees are not. |
So a company should be forced to hire someone just because they are from the area? What ever happen to qualifications, merits, years experiences, Education level, Job expertise, Licensing etc. So we should just hire 20 people no questions asked? Since when do you blackmail a company to hire you? What about those factories in lagos or anambra that make billions of dollars a year. so they should hire you just because your a local? seriously... It is not a company's responsibility to help the unemployed, that the governments responsibility. I still dont understand why many Niger Deltans have so much hatred towards oil companies when they should focus that hatred toward the government and force them to develop the area. That way you can create jobs but also grow a diverse economy made up of different industries, instead off everyone focusing on one "oyel" industry. |
Illuminati is just a conspiracy, a badly made up one. I still dont understand why some people believe this is real. |
gboss4sure: You said 75% completion, so why didnt i start seeing improvements in powers supply then as i am seeing now?Because it was 75% complete as in construction of the power plants was not complete. how will they generate electricity from power plants that are still under construction? warrior01: you wrote this? Never knew you're this stupidExplain to me how and why my post "silly"? |
Funkymallam: Lies in HD!NIPP projects reach 75% completion http://www.businessdayonline.com/New/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3112:nipp-projects-reach-75-completion-&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=565 The National Integrated Power Project (NIPP) was conceived in 2004 http://www.nidelpower.com/main/index.php Elueme: Bros, ok nau, we don hear.. Na both GEJ and OBJ even YAR ADUA go take the credit.. Are u ok now?No, I'm not happy because I know it will continue..... |
taharqa: Guy plz get yr info right. Obj only completed a few of d NIPP projects(and even dose plants dat were completd cud nt deliva power to d grid cos they 'forget' to connect gas facilities to them). When Obj left, Yar'adua did virtuali nothing to complete d projects(infact he stoppd it cos of d Power Probe tin, remember?). GEJ is nw completing d project, upgrading Transmission nd Distributn infrastructure nd supplying real power to people as well as Privatising d sector, nd here u are trying to tk d credit 4rm him yet u guys wud blame him 4 evri wrong time in d coun3(even if most happend b4 he came to power). By d way, if oda presidents hv bn continuing Projects they met as he is doing wud d coun3 be in its present state?But this is what I'm talking about that people pretty much give their favorite political office holder in nigeria way to much credit. You guys are acting as if GEJ is doing this all by himself. Upgrading the transmissions and distribution infrastructure has been in the works for close to a decade and the road to privatization of the power sector has been going on for a while. The NIPP projects, even though it had it hiccups, was still in development for years. I mean I understand that GEJ is your candidate of choice but don't let your love for GEJ blind you of reality, Somethings already took place before he took office. And its not just GEJ, you will see it with Fashola, Ameachi and other politician people love blindly. BTW I'm not one of those people who blame or insult GEJ like you mentioned. I am simple a fact checker, I do it to the politicians I admire and to does I don't. There nothing wrong in investigating the truth. |
wesley80: How long does it take to build and fire a gas plant? Start counting from 1999, we are now in 2012 that makes how many years? How do you cite power plants without making any provision for gas to fire the plants or an adequate grid to distribute generated power? isn't that like running an olympic relay race without a baton? Now who has solved all that and is refusing to be dragged back by poor planning and the rest excuses? Open your mouth and repeat after me; Geeeeeeee Eeeeeeee Jayyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!The projects didnt start in 1999 they started in december 2005 - early 2006. Second Building a power plant take years and with any large scale project you are guaranteed delays. I also assume their was some corruption through the years, this is nigeria we are talking about. Also from what I read their are provisions for adequate gas supply to the power plants. All Power plants will be feed gas through pipelines from nearby gas fields but whether they were executed is a different story |
bigdoo: Nigeria should be producing at least 18,000 MW of electricity to ensure adequate and interrupted power supply. Pakistan, which is about the same as Nigeria in population currently generates 17,000 MW but has the capacity to generate up to 21, 000 megawatts.Not even close enough for adequate power supply. Pakistan has a similar population and similar development status as Nigeria and produces around 14,000Mw. Even with that Pakistan's "blackouts have reached a peak - reportedly up to 16 hours a day in urban areas and as much as 22 hours a day in the countryside". Though 9000mw is an improvement, it is not much to be celebrating. The Energy Commission of Nigeria (ECN) projects that electricity demand in Nigeria will peak at 107,600 mega watts (MW) by the year 2020. The Government truly needs to work harder and stop playing games!!! http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/140257/no-end-in-sight-for-pakistan%C3%ADs-energy-crisis.html http://sweetcrudereports.com/2011/09/21/nigeria-needs-107600mw-to-sustain-vision-20-2020/ |
edicolove: Hahahahahaha! I wish you know how you sound and how those reading your post regard it. A man who didn't see light during OBJ and Yaradua time is telling you he is enjoying good light now and you are desperately trying to convince him GEJ should not be commended but OBJ. Comedy unlimited. Lwbmb!From what I remember reading OBJ was the one who commissioned the project and I also read that NIPP reached 75% completion during Yar'Adua's administration. During the present and past administrations the power plants was and still are under construction. But according to you, we should give GEJ all the credit even though he had nothing to do with the NIPP expect for being the one in office when it will be completed? That like the final runner in a relay race getting all the credit for finishing even though his teammates also ran with with the baton in the race. My point is you and a few other people on Nairaland give GEJ waaaay to much credit. You also denounce and repudiate the positive things past administrations and opposition parties did. GEJ has projects of his own but not everything completed or commissioned by GEJ is made by him. |
[color=#006600]yes and no. No because many of the same corrupt leaders will still rule the split nations and splitting wont solve our infrastructure or economical problems. At the same time yes, because it will stop many of are social problems and will build a society with a closer bond and culture. Also there wont be an ethnic or regional need for power so the public can focus on actually getting better politicians in office. |
Bliss4Lyfe: @ Junkie the Arewa Elder are best positioned to answer dat.Arewa Elder? You do realize that i'm Esan right? There is nothing wrong in fact checking or holding someone accountable. BTW the video posted above is from one my youtube channels. ![]() |
Bliss4Lyfe: It is not who awards contract onn Newpaper pages but who executes the projects that count. GEJ will take all the credit for projects executed on his watch on all newspapers and in person when he goes to commission them.If i hear OBJ again...Then in that case, according to your way of thinking, obasanjo, yar'adua and GEJ get credit for the road since it took place under their watch as well. I dont hate GEJ, I actually like they guy, but what I really hate are these GEJ brainwashed drones who continue to type rubbish. If anything these clueless drones are just ruining GEJ's image on the internet. |
edicolove: Hahahaha! Onitsha-Owerri road done over five years ago? Now you are surely in lalaland. Did kobojunkie mosquito bite you? LolThe contract for the road was awarded in 2002 and construction started afterward. http://allafrica.com/stories/200207250081.html |
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