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 Car Talk › Re: PICTURES: Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing Company by GAR3TH(m): 11:37pm On May 14, 2012*. Modified: 11:20am On May 15, 2012 |
[quote author=][/quote]Exactly what I've been saying the past few years about Innoson, Though we should give them credit, we shouldn't go as far as to saying "made in Nigeria" or Patronize them, because their cars are not nigerian. They are just like PAN an VW of nigeria. they did not design, engineer, consult or manage anything about the cars or buses. The only thing they did was buy assembly kits from companies such as Dongfeng Special Vehicle Bus Co.Ltd [china] who are the real owners, designers and engineers behind the cars and buses innoson produces. In other words all innoson "does" technically is replace the front logo with there own. Like I said I given them credit for creating the business but Nigerians and those on Nairaland should not spread misinformation. Innoson the company may be nigerian but the cars and buses they produce are not nigerian. Just like how Volkswagon of nigeria is a nigerian company but the cars they assemble are German. Dongfeng Special Vehicle Bus Co., Ltd. China https://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af298/ONLY1GAR3TH/dzft4w.jpg An Innoson bus made from an assembly kit from the Chinese buses company above https://innosonivm.com/uploadfile/20110418154722218.jpg 2 Likes |
| Car Talk › Re: PICTURES: Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing Company by GAR3TH(m): 11:25am On May 14, 2012 |
Invisible Man: From Readings comments on this article, I believe most bloggers on here are based in Nigeria and have not worked for foreign production companies in their life. General Motors here in the states does not manufacture their vehicle parts,most productions are outsourced to different companies all over the globe before they are brought back to GM Detroit plant for assembly. Why are you guys knocking down your fellow man's hard work? I consider arm chair critics as envious people.Yes true but there is a Big difference between outsourcing your own materials and products to other companies and countries to produce and buying parts abroad just to replace the name. Even if Ford, toyota and these other companies outsource their cars they are still engineered, design and tested buy that same company. Just like how peugeot and volkswagen outsourced their cars to Nigeria for assembly, Thoses cars were designed and engineered buy Peugeot & VW and not nigeria. What Innoson does is different as in they buy cars/buses [parts] that were design and engineered by a different company [Wuling motors of China, King Long United Automotive, Dongfeng Special Vehicle (Shiyan) etc] and put their logo on it. Its based on a joint venture agreement they signed with those companies so all they have to do is assemble it after they receive the kit. Its kind of how you assemble furniture that comes in a box, you didn't make the furniture you just assembled it. Non the less it doesn't matter since the company does employ nigerians and adds to the economy 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: TB Joshua Correctly Predicts Russian Plane Crash Of Wednesday by GAR3TH(m): 5:39pm On May 11, 2012 |
Most of his so call predictions are vague and not specific and are mere coincidence. Just like when he "predicted" heavy flooding in south east asia, but a person with a brain knows it was a La Niña year coupled with the fact that it was also the raining season in that part of the world. I could have predicted that myself even though i heard it from The meteorologist on TV first. Anyway if he want to be taking seriously he needs to add some description and detail to his prediction and not just some over simplified white wash. Till then many of us will consider him fake. 1 Like |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama Announces Support For Same-sex Marriage by GAR3TH(m): 3:28pm On May 10, 2012 |
But just for the record, like I said before on this thread and others, WHAT DO GAY PEOPLE 3000 MILES AWAY CONCERN YOU. DOES THE NIGERIAN ECONOMY CRASH BECAUSE OF GAY PEOPLE OR DOES THE PRICE OF OIL TRIPLE OR IS CORRUPTION CAUSED BY GAY PEOPLE? WETIN CONCERN YOU ABOUT THE LIVES OF SOMEONE ELSE 3000 MILES AWAY OR EVEN YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. NOTHING!!! people are just sticking their noises into arguments that wont even affect them nor the country. Thats just being an instigator and a bigot. If gay marriage is past or not or if obama approves of it or not who cares, life still goes on as usually and nothing will change. Hence why I and many others find it !funny that many people are so sentimental about this issue even though it does not involve them. this hole gay marriage thing is blown out of proportion by people who have nothing better to do. 2 Likes |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama Announces Support For Same-sex Marriage by GAR3TH(m): 11:41am On May 10, 2012 |
As homophobic as I am what i really cant stand is the utter Bigotry I keep seeing on Nairaland. Every time a gay thread opens you see people flood it with bible quotes, praising the lord etc. But isn't it the same Bible that also condemns polygamy, divorce, monogamy, lifelong celibacy, adultery, Gluttony etc because they are also sin. So How many Nairalanders are FAT, then in that case you are going to hell for gluttony. How many Nairalanders are divorced or remarried, well your going to hell because that is a sin. My point is you just cant pick and choose what is sin or what is not. You just cant say that Homosexuality is a sin and divorcing, polygamy or gluttony is not. That call being a Bigot, either everything that is stated in the bible is sin or every thing is not, Simple. 9 Likes |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: Obama Announces Support For Same-sex Marriage by GAR3TH(m): 11:21am On May 10, 2012 |
LoL so Obama states his opinion and some folks are wishing him wrong. So what if he support gay marriage, its HIS opinion and NOT yours. Just because another person's views are different from your views doesn't mean you should hate on someone. Second whats wrong with gay marriage? I myself don't see the problem. Its not my life nor my business so why the hell should I get involve. Why should I tell another person 3000 miles away how to live there lives. If someone 3000 miles way controlled my life i'll fly over there and kick their a.s.s Anyway some people just need to take a chill pill and take a few steps back before typing and ask themselves wetin concern you . . . 10 Likes |
| Politics › Re: Onitsha Port Set Ahead Of Commissioning By FG Next Month by GAR3TH(m): 9:48pm On May 09, 2012 |
karl max: Another GEJ ELection promise delivered haters take noteIt was President Umaru Yar’ Adua regime that renovated the port and it was the the ministry of transportation and the Ministry of Works & Infrastructure that continued the project not GEJ. |
| Politics › Re: Onitsha Port Set Ahead Of Commissioning By FG Next Month by GAR3TH(m): 2:48am On May 08, 2012 |
I'm still confused about this river port, as in why it has massive cranes when it has little to no cargo dock. and why there is a covered warehouse that takes up most of the lot. To me this looks like a river port that specializes in the transportation of agricultural goods or Raw earth materials. Since there is no way they can fit large quantities of commercial shipping cargo containers on that dock. Which makes sense since argicultural state like Kogi, Edo and Benue are in the vicinity. 2 Likes |
| Travel › Re: More Updates On The Lagos Light Rail Project & 10Lane Lagos-Badagry Express Way by GAR3TH(m): 10:45am On May 04, 2012 |
omar22: It doesnt matter most track layout are the same widthIn my statement I wasn't taking about the gauge, I was talking about the load bearing capacity of the track themselves and the infrastructure associated with them. Both Light Rail and Heavy Rail can come in different gauges, 1435mm to 1067mm and others. The real difference is that Heavy Gauge infrastructure can handle more stress, weight and high speeds than light rail infrastructure. Imagine if they built a rail bridge that has a live load bearing capacity of 4 tons [light rail] but instead a 20 ton subway car uses that bridge. The bridge will collapse wont it. |
| Travel › Re: More Updates On The Lagos Light Rail Project & 10Lane Lagos-Badagry Express Way by GAR3TH(m): 6:32am On May 04, 2012 |
I give up, I still dont know why You alway choose to argue with me even when the information is right infront of you. Anyway I'm going to sleep, I feel bad for your husbands, may god and my prayers be in his hands, amen. |
| Travel › Re: More Updates On The Lagos Light Rail Project & 10Lane Lagos-Badagry Express Way by GAR3TH(m): 6:26am On May 04, 2012*. Modified: 10:59am On May 04, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: ^^ This is exactly why Nigeria keeps rocking back and forth. What on earth has the purchase of 255 scrap rail cars from Toronto to do with whether this is LIGHT RAIL OR HEAVY RAIL? ROFLMAO!!WOW now i know for sure you are just arguing for the sake of it. How on earth can a 85200 pound subway car possible run on a light rail track? BECAUSE ITS NOT A LIGHT RAIL TRACK. How can a subway car Multiple units preform tigh radius turns on a light rail track? BECAUSE ITS NOT A LIGHT RAIL TRACK. How on earth can a subway car run high speeds on a light rail tarck? BECAUSE ITS NOT A LIGHT RAIL. hm . . .There are NUMEROUS sources that say exactly what you suggest, yet you have yet to produce one verifiable one to this point? Instead what you have conveniently done is try to suggest LAMATA is not a credible source for information? WOW . . . quelle suprise!The website was not updated, what was "updated" was that they added information on other projects they are working on. The page you link to was created in 2006 and was not "updated". Trust me I have no life  and I periodically check various websites on updates on various projects going on in nigeria. 1 Like |
| Travel › Re: More Updates On The Lagos Light Rail Project & 10Lane Lagos-Badagry Express Way by GAR3TH(m): 6:15am On May 04, 2012 |
You keep posting that same LAMATA webpage that was made in 2006. That Webpage of lamata and the lamata website in general has never been updated, hell many nigerian websited are never updated. Why are you posting a link made in 2006 for an issue that is in 2012. Second why should you believe me? There are numerous sources that corresponds to what I said. |
| Travel › Re: More Updates On The Lagos Light Rail Project & 10Lane Lagos-Badagry Express Way by GAR3TH(m): 6:05am On May 04, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: GROW a brain. The very company in charge of the construction tell you there that the system is a LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM, but here you are telling us we should not believe what the company says because YOU SAY . .. Attacking me will not reduce the stupidity in what you are suggesting we do here . . . i.e believe you just because you say so.What are you talking about, They are building a Conventional rail system, If they were building a light rail system then why in the BLUE HELL DID LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT BUY 255 SUBWAY CARS FROM TORONTO Link. Second It seem that you act as if you found out about the project today. This project has been in development since 2006. The Original plan was to build a light rail, Since then the plan has changed and today they are building a conventional heavy gauge rail with subway cars. Second the project is no longer call Lagos Light Rail, that was the original name back in the day, TODAY it is call EKO RAIL. You can even go to EKO RAIL's website. Its not my fault that LAMATA nevers update there website or that Journalist are to incompetent to know the real name of the project. Once again The name of the project is EKO rail, Previously in the past during planning it was once a light rail and LAMATA used it as a marketing term in between the change in phases. |
| Travel › Re: More Updates On The Lagos Light Rail Project & 10Lane Lagos-Badagry Express Way by GAR3TH(m): 5:30am On May 04, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: Again . . . .Then In that case sue LAMATA for "lying", sue Your cell phone company for "lying", Infact sue every company for "lying". Its not my problem so i'm not sure why your trying to connet me to it, Its just a marketing terms, simple. |
| Travel › Re: More Updates On The Lagos Light Rail Project & 10Lane Lagos-Badagry Express Way by GAR3TH(m): 5:23am On May 04, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: Again . . . .I as in you dont believe it but it is a marketing term. Pictures above shows that they are using subway cars and not light rails. Like I said its the same way Cell phone companies say 4G but its really not 4G. NO ONE IS LYING, ITS A MARKETING TERM |
| Travel › Re: More Updates On The Lagos Light Rail Project & 10Lane Lagos-Badagry Express Way by GAR3TH(m): 5:20am On May 04, 2012 |
Earlier last year LAMATA bought 255 H6 subway cars from toronto. They are currently being renovated by G.E. in Michigan https://farm3.static.flickr.com/2448/5720377959_0094187017.jpg https://farm7.static.flickr.com/6040/6313771831_8fac525a05.jpg https://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd423/twistaz/banner-1.jpg |
| Travel › Re: More Updates On The Lagos Light Rail Project & 10Lane Lagos-Badagry Express Way by GAR3TH(m): 5:12am On May 04, 2012 |
But it is not a light rail, They are using it as a marketing term the same way cell phone companies use "4G" as a marketing term, Btw 4G isn't 4G. Lagos will NOT be using light rail cars, they will be using single mass - 12 multiple unit Subway cars. Thats not a light rail system, Two different system and Different size and capacity means of transport. Below is a Light Rail tram holds about 30 passengers https://www.railpac.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/railpics-2325.jpg Below is a Subway Car [what lagos is using] Hold about 200 passengers https://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2009/12/500x_nycsubway.jpg |
| Travel › Re: More Updates On The Lagos Light Rail Project & 10Lane Lagos-Badagry Express Way by GAR3TH(m): 4:54am On May 04, 2012 |
Just so some people know the Light rail in lagos Light Rail project is a marketing term. The project is actually a conventional rail system that uses subway cars, so its not an inefficient light rail system. There are plans to build a rail bridge next to the 3rd mainland to connect the rail to the island. The proposed plans call for another cable-stay bridge but if they cant get the funding the most likely go with the a segmented bridge [3rd mainland look alike] |
| Politics › Re: Which State Is The Most Educated In Nigeria by GAR3TH(m): 9:21pm On Apr 29, 2012 |
What is Interesting is that the literacy rate for youths [15-24 years old] is much much higher than the adult literacy [15 and above]. In fact the youths were added to the adult category just so it can boost up the adult literacy. Just imagine how low the adult literacy will be if youths weren't added to it, shocking. Mind you that half of nigerians are below the age of 25.
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| Politics › Re: Which State Is The Most Educated In Nigeria by GAR3TH(m): 8:47pm On Apr 29, 2012 |
Here are the Literacy rates from the bureau of statistics http://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/uploads/latestRelease/de4f17834ea0c57a9e1f440d029aebaa460863d0.pdf In terms of literacy in any language Lagos scored the highest followed by zamfara, imo, Abia, rivers, akwa and the rest Interms of literacy in Speaking english Lagos, Imo, rivers, abia are the highest. Some LGAs in abia have 90+ literacy rates, impressive  Note that this data was conducted on a survey, [not sure how they conducted it] 3 Likes |
| Politics › Re: Fashola Inspects Ikoyi Bridge Now At 80% Completion. Pics by GAR3TH(m): 9:01am On Apr 29, 2012 |
The bridge will most likely be tolled. As far as pricing it will probably be higher than the lekki toll gate since this bridge does have "narrow" [2x2 lane] roads unlike the lekki expresway which is 3x3 lanes. If it was cheaper the people will rush the bridge and its 2x2 lane roads will no be able to handle the traffic of the lekki expressway. So what I believe is that the price will be high but not to high so some people who can afford it will take the bridge and decongest the lekki expressway. but what do i know. . . |
| Politics › Re: Dredging Of River Niger Completed – Obi’s Aide by GAR3TH(m): 3:09am On Apr 29, 2012 |
The Niger River Shipping Channel will be a minimum of 60 metres wide with a minimum depth of 2.5 metres [8.2Ft] http://www.terra-et-aqua.com/dmdocuments/Terra_121_4.pdf That confirms what I said before that large vessels will not be navigating the waterway but rather small River barges and transport ferries. 1 Like
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| Politics › Re: Fashola Inspects Ikoyi Bridge Now At 80% Completion. Pics by GAR3TH(m): 4:47pm On Apr 24, 2012 |
Nice pictures Naptu2, thanks. I added some of your photos here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=90758408#post90758408 |
| Politics › Re: Airforce Jet Accidentally Fires Missile At Building In Port-harcourt. by GAR3TH(m): 4:29pm On Apr 20, 2012 |
I thought NAF port harcourt handles military helicopters and not jets, its NAF lagos, kano, makurdi that handles military jets I have a feeling it was a Mil Mi-24 , which are commonly seen at NAF Port Harcourt and not a fighter jet. 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: Fashola Condemns Blocking Of Major Roads During Dame Patience's Visit To Lagos by GAR3TH(m): 12:35pm On Apr 14, 2012 |
What the first lady did is unacceptable. You just cant go around blocking roads for prolong periods of time. Even when Fashola's convoy travels they only block the road for a few seconds so he can pass, they dont block the roads for 4 or 5 hours like the first lady did. Even when Obama and the New York state governor pass my town they only block the road for a few minutes not half a day. |
| Politics › Re: Onitsha City Monorail By Globim International by GAR3TH(m): 11:45pm On Apr 13, 2012 |
I still dont understand why all these nigerian cities want to build monorails for. Monorails are extremely expensive to build and carries awaaaaaaay less passengers than other transport systems. In other words a Monorail is a glorified bus that runs on a 2 billion dollar track. Why Can theses idiots just buy buses or implement BRT systems instead of wasting billions on monorails. These governments are only building monorails for the name, NO SENSIBLE GOVERNMENT WILL BUILD A MONORAIL SYSTEM FOR TRANSIT. A metro rail, BRT or City buses are the only viable solutions. and like kobo said this is old news |
| Politics › Re: Governors Are Running Nigeria Broke- Okonjo-iweala by GAR3TH(m): 5:51pm On Apr 13, 2012 |
"when you point a finger at someone else the remaining 4 are pointing back at you" I agree with what she said but its a known fact that the FG is doing waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more damage to nigeria than the states are. Yes, Governors [states] are a problem in nigeria but the real problem is the FG. 2 Likes |
| Politics › Re: Friendly Caricatures Of Nairalanders by GAR3TH(m): 10:16am On Apr 13, 2012 |
Nice, you got some talent. I would enjoy it if you did more |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: North Korea Rocket Breaks Up After Launch by GAR3TH(m): 10:09am On Apr 13, 2012 |
The had rocket launches in the past in which ALL failed. So what makes this one any different. |
| Politics › Re: NLNG Head-Quarters Moved To Port-Harcourt (From Victoria Island) by GAR3TH(m): 7:02pm On Apr 12, 2012 |
odumchi: The issue is that there is equipment thats stored in the HQ that can't be flown. Think of it this way:I would assume HQ mainly handles the business white collar aspect of LNG and not the manual labor side of LNG. BTW NLNG has offices in London and abuja too, the Abuja and london offices dont handles NLNG Equipment form 2000 miles away, Just like the former lagos HQ its white collar paperwork. They already have a supply base and LNG plant in river state prior to the move. |
