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very soon benin republic, gambia, niger, chad, senegal and even mali will be rejecting visas from nigerians.

[quote author=Aloy`Emeka link=topic=332079.msg4702681#msg4702681 date=1255125943]No. It doesn't mean he should be crucified if he is innocent.[/quote]u know u are right even though i am not supposed to say it. you say it as it is

okunoba:
@Andre Uwe, u can`t be more right, Igbo people are not responsible 4 the stupid act of some Igbo officers, it`s also true that most Nigerians usually celebrate coups, the only coup I can think of which was not celebrated was the Murtala Mohamed one.

Where I have difficulty is how u cannot see any ethnic sentiment in the coup especially when all the people killed were non Igbo`s and the majority of the coup plotters were Igbo`s.

I also disagree in your assessment of Ironsi`s action or inaction regarding the coup plotters. When Dimka staged a coup which resulted in the death of Murtala the head of state at the time, he was put on trial with his fellow conspirators and executed within a month, Ironsi had six months to do the same. Obasanjo and Diya did not kill anybody or stage a coup, they were only accused of planning to stage one, completely different situation from the first coup where the prime minester and many top politicians were killed. Ironsi could not have been oblivious to the consequences of his in-action knowing dam well what was at stake.


Regardless of all these nothing justifies the killings of so many innocent Igbo people, The whole of Nigeria and that includes Igbo leaders, owe the descendant of these people an apology 4 not doing enough to protect them in their hours of need. The leadership at the time failed us as they have continued to fail us.

okunoba:
I don`t understand y some Igbo`s find it difficult to be objective any time the issue of Biafra and events that led to it is discussed. It`s a fact of history that the majority of the 1966 coup plotters were Igbo, Yes they had few non Igbo`s , but that doesn`t take from the fact that it was mostly Igbo officers running the show.
It`s also a fact of history that not a single Igbo top brat  was killed during the coup, while the North lost alot of their top politicians and military officers and so did the west and midwest.

A fellow gave the excuse that Igbo leaders or leader was not in the country, but as Dayokanu rightly wrote, did all the Igbo leaders leave town and if that was the case they must have been warned of the coup and fled town making the coup look more sectarian. 

It`s also a fact of history that an Igbo man Gen Ironsi who took over power after the coup refused to execute the Igbo army officers responsible 4 it. Knowing dam well that the Northern leaders wanted the coup plotters to be executed 4 murder and treason which was the law of the land at the time 4 such crimes.

Another person gave the excuse of  resisting arrest as the reason y the Northern leaders were killed, but that excuse doesn`t hold, when u resist arrest even in that jungle we call Nigeria what happens is that u are over powered and hand cuffed, u don`t get killed 4 that.

If we wanted to be fair and objective Igbo`s should be asking the same question must Nigerians have been asking, y did the coup plotters only killed non Igbo`s, y did Gen Ironsi refused to execute the coup plotters  who should have been killed according to the law of the land.

Another key point is Y did Igbo`s in the North celebrate the killings of Northern leaders especially when they were living in their mist.

All these said nothing can justify the senseless killing of poor Innocent igbo people who had nothing to do with the  first coup and the killings that came with it. I think the North owes the Igbo people an apology 4 the mas secare and we Yoruba`s also owe them an apology 4 the action or inaction of some us our leaders before the war and after. The Yoruba leaders being the neutral ones in the conflict should have done alot more to force the government to protect the Igbo`s in the North. Awolowo`s decision to give just ten naira to every igbo bank depositor, regardless of what they had in the bank before the war, was cruel and inhumane, this single act of Awolowo to me is unforgivable. At the same time the yoruba race can`t be held responsible 4 the action of one it`s son`s, the same way that the average igbo man in the North shouldn`t and couldn`t have been held responsible 4 the action of a few crazy igbo officers who decided to eliminate non Igbo political leaders of the day.

God bless you richly

nigeria would have been a very nice place if we had just 1000 of you.  what frightens me is how we have replaced one set of tribalists with a different set of younger generation who are mostly interested in re-writting every history and events to suit their tribal and ethnic bigotry.

i like your balance and grace in reporting things the way they are.  you should expect NL resident tribalists to attack you though.

Theblessed:
That's not the ISSUE. The issue is, CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOURS! If there's no demand, there won't be supply. If a married man would stick with his wife at home and keep his BIG WALLET where it should be - in his wife's hands, these silly girls won't be displaying their little tits about, ok! Well, as little harlots they won't display them for free (when madam is in-charge of the wallet) that's obvious and you know it too.  Because the man uses the POWER OF HIS WALLET to entice them, they are obligated to provide him with the EXCITEMENT he is seeking outside his BEDROOM. So now, blame it on the wife!

you obviously missed the point again because you are looking at this issue with a biased mind.

once again i must make it clear to you i do not condone or endorce adulltery.

my point is adultery in nigeria is not mainly because some old fat man has money to flash from his BIG WALLET on some mini skirt wearing "silly small + tits displaying girls".  nigeria is a morally bankrupt environment that allows these things without frowning on it.  majority of the people are at it. men, women, religious, godless, poor, old, educated and illeterate.  i dont know what you do or maybe you are in some convent so you dont go out.

do you remember the thread of the poor man with the american visa lottery? do you remember the thread  on the man that killed his wife lover in calabar or somewhere around there?  these are not some men sleeping with some tits displaying girls as you want to potray.

as i said somewhere on NL nigeria is one massive sodom with a matching abortion industry mostly used by your "respectlable" married women.  far back twenty something years i can only remember 3/4 of the married women i knew at work not having boy friends cos they were deeper life and assemblies of God women. these included managers and officers who didnt need the money so dont come here pulling a fast one becos it has gone worse.

 look for the thread on hotels and streets in abuja too.

where did you learn that men should give their wallets to thier women as a lifestyle?  you are definately something else

Theblessed:
Well, as you said variety might be part of it but you failed to see there are certain corners a married woman would not want to reach in her bedroom business with her husband that, these little harlots would be too obliged to reach because, they are paid/wined and dined for it.
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The ACROBATIC display a respectable wife would not dare think of performing - these girls would be too obliged to perform in order to keep the man coming back for more. Doubt it?? Please, don't. If the men here can be honest with themselves, they would own up to it.

Generally, men are visual people and they like excitements - that's the only way you can engage them in things.[/size]

you read too many women magazines ma

wbb

o boy if the boy beat the lady he looses the tight to be married

only 20yrs i beg go sit down jare

ohisng:
@spONE and snowdrops!!
Make una dey shame!!!
If u guys dontv have tangible things to say, be quiet!!
What contribution have u made to the state that makes u have mouth diarrhoea!!
Una own too much

i beg clap for adams

God help u

olabs and abusola what sayest thou on these evil matters?  where are the hajias to speak on behalf of these girls?

sylve11:
what a sad story!

that is wickedness and to know a young fellow did this is unbievable

Theblessed:
[b]So happy to see a sister that stood up and vocally shout down evil.  God bless you!  Its the culture we inherited that makes women think, without a ring in their 3rd finger they are worthless. Who said so?? Its about time women shrug off this mentality and stand up head above their shoulders - look our men in their eyes and say "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH OF YOUR BULLSHIT, RESPECT ME AS EQUALS, OK!".  

Thanks my sister for hitting the nail on the head. Based on what you'd just said above, I think this challenge has just slipped off our mothers' hands and now, its up to young mothers' to change this culture by inculcating in their children first of all, the idea of equality in the home.  Get your boys to make their own beds, wash the dishes, hoover the house, clean the kitchen, clean toilets because they too eat and pooh. Just as you train your daughters, train your sons the same way too.  Deviate from dividing tasks in the home between 'sexes' lines e.g. a male role as against a female role.  No, no, no everybody should muck in and get the job done, period.  This way, women would begin to dismantle all the cultural negative ideas of the past generations that had not only hindered, restricted and also limited womanhood.    

The problem is that we women don't realise how powerful we are - we have the power to change this archaic culture that has never done us any favours, but we don't know it.  You see, we made men - we carried them 9 months in our bellies and push their big heads into this world baby, we have the power to show them where to sit if only we stick together. Rally around sisters and change the system to suit us for a change, don't we deserve it.[/b]

madam please tell me in few words are these foolish nigerian men sleeping with ghanaian or cameroonian women?

Mandigo:
Nigerian Men cheat because they can! they have willing accomplices everywhere so don't blame them for infidelity, just like prostitutes work because they have steady clients if they discover the business is not lucrative they will look for something elase to do.

I had a fling with a girl once (I am married by the way) and as part of our discussion she was telling of how her fiance was unfaithful to her impreganted someone else and she was really bitter about it. Meanwhile this discussion took place while we had just spent the night together and our relationship was ongoing while she and her fiance were engaged.

So please lets not judge the men.

Mandigo:
Nigerian Men cheat because they can! they have willing accomplices everywhere so don't blame them for infidelity, just like prostitutes work because they have steady clients if they discover the business is not lucrative they you need the canelook for something elase to do.

I had a fling with a girl once (I am married by the way) and as part of our discussion she was telling of how her fiance was unfaithful to her impreganted someone else and she was really bitter about it. Meanwhile this discussion took place while we had just spent the night together and our relationship was ongoing while she and her fiance were engaged.

So please lets not judge the men.

u need the cane man

are u nigerian? have u lived in naija?

geonuel:
i totally agree with you guys, not only being denied visa to order country is the issue on ground but checkout the educational system of the country.
[b][b] Naija is blessed but we have bad leader.[/b][/b]

where does nigeria recruit its bad leaders from?

u try

ugly rubbish.

benincitys:
oh god help our people

amin o

stbaby:
Extra-Marital Affairs is tremendously destructive for everyone involved in it, it has ruin many families, homes, and marriages. It has taken many men captives, and these men though do not like what they are doing but somehow do not know the way out. I have come not only to tell you that you can stop it but also to put i your hands the relevant tools to be used in stopping it.

Here are five things you will do right away.

What to stop

Stop the emotional affair.

Stop the fantasy process.

Stop the freedom fantasy.

Stop rehearsing the rendezvous.

Stop “oh, well” thinking. You know the drill. You’ve gone this far, like a kiss or a touch, so “Why not?”

What to start or re-start

Start talking to your spouse, not about your spouse.

Start marriage counseling.

Start distancing yourself from the other person, i.e., emotionally, physically, and verbally. Place a moratorium on contact of any type with the other person. If you are in a work situation, minimize contact and ask others to be present at all meetings.

Start talking to yourself. Remember, the slippery slope to an affair is rationalized at every step. Examine your rationalizations in the light of the hurt and pain acting on the temptation will bring.

Restart

“The Fidelity Principle” - Most of us start out with the ideal of being faithful to our spouses. Recommit to it. If you’re religious there is the value of being faithful because that’s God’s ideal for marriage. The third principle of fidelity is to be faithful to yourself, “I will be faithful because that’s the kind of person I am.” The real test of this is when the spouse has an affair and you avoid the temptation of a vengeance affair because you remind yourself “I will be faithful, even if you’re not, because that’s the way I am.”

To Have These Tools Placed In Your Hands Visit http://www.gethimbacktips..com for more tips and tools for avoiding and recovering from extramarital affairs. You can also visit our Marriage Skills Buidling Blog at http://www.ebonmaritalbooks..com

stbaby:
Extra-Marital Affairs is tremendously destructive for everyone involved in it, it has ruin many families, homes, and marriages. It has taken many men captives, and these men though do not like what they are doing but somehow do not know the way out. I have come not only to tell you that you can stop it but also to put i your hands the relevant tools to be used in stopping it.

Here are five things you will do right away.

What to stop

Stop the emotional affair.

Stop the fantasy process.

Stop the freedom fantasy.

Stop rehearsing the rendezvous.

Stop “oh, well” thinking. You know the drill. You’ve gone this far, like a kiss or a touch, so “Why not?”

What to start or re-start

Start talking to your spouse, not about your spouse.

Start marriage counseling.

Start distancing yourself from the other person, i.e., emotionally, physically, and verbally. Place a moratorium on contact of any type with the other person. If you are in a work situation, minimize contact and ask others to be present at all meetings.

Start talking to yourself. Remember, the slippery slope to an affair is rationalized at every step. Examine your rationalizations in the light of the hurt and pain acting on the temptation will bring.

Restart

“The Fidelity Principle” - Most of us start out with the ideal of being faithful to our spouses. Recommit to it. If you’re religious there is the value of being faithful because that’s God’s ideal for marriage. The third principle of fidelity is to be faithful to yourself, “I will be faithful because that’s the kind of person I am.” The real test of this is when the spouse has an affair and you avoid the temptation of a vengeance affair because you remind yourself “I will be faithful, even if you’re not, because that’s the way I am.”

To Have These Tools Placed In Your Hands Visit http://www.gethimbacktips..com for more tips and tools for avoiding and recovering from extramarital affairs. You can also visit our Marriage Skills Buidling Blog at http://www.ebonmaritalbooks..com

stbaby:
Extra-Marital Affairs is tremendously destructive for everyone involved in it, it has ruin many families, homes, and marriages. It has taken many men captives, and these men though do not like what they are doing but somehow do not know the way out. I have come not only to tell you that you can stop it but also to put i your hands the relevant tools to be used in stopping it.

Here are five things you will do right away.

What to stop

Stop the emotional affair.

Stop the fantasy process.

Stop the freedom fantasy.

Stop rehearsing the rendezvous.

Stop “oh, well” thinking. You know the drill. You’ve gone this far, like a kiss or a touch, so “Why not?”

What to start or re-start

Start talking to your spouse, not about your spouse.

Start marriage counseling.

Start distancing yourself from the other person, i.e., emotionally, physically, and verbally. Place a moratorium on contact of any type with the other person. If you are in a work situation, minimize contact and ask others to be present at all meetings.

Start talking to yourself. Remember, the slippery slope to an affair is rationalized at every step. Examine your rationalizations in the light of the hurt and pain acting on the temptation will bring.

Restart

“The Fidelity Principle” - Most of us start out with the ideal of being faithful to our spouses. Recommit to it. If you’re religious there is the value of being faithful because that’s God’s ideal for marriage. The third principle of fidelity is to be faithful to yourself, “I will be faithful because that’s the kind of person I am.” The real test of this is when the spouse has an affair and you avoid the temptation of a vengeance affair because you remind yourself “I will be faithful, even if you’re not, because that’s the way I am.”

To Have These Tools Placed In Your Hands Visit http://www.gethimbacktips..com for more tips and tools for avoiding and recovering from extramarital affairs. You can also visit our Marriage Skills Buidling Blog at http://www.ebonmaritalbooks..com

wbb

african nations never learn anything.  what will they possibly gain from this apart from driving ecowas countries away.  every where else trade blocks are being formed and you this happening

unclebee:
please, how do i cope with a non repentant woman?

you repent for her

MrCrackles:
Na wa o o o . . . . Odikwa serious!

na really odikwa serious. imagine angolla. why do we need visa to visit another african country? reminds me of having to pay £11 for an egypt visa when i was very convinced my green passport should carry me into any africa country for just one day.

i hope they get to pay for visa to come to naija too?

babyx:
@whitestrud, u have a point there. He doesnt have to ask for it if he dont need it.

what would he possibly need it for? i once had a foolish email from a girl i know back home. it turned out her boy friend took the password changed same and started sending everyone that knew her rubbish.

he forgot the girl could reset and reclaim her address without going through him. you have some small minded people about

denex:
Don't mind this new breed of morons and local champions that are tainting our generation.

I want to test her, I want to test him. Let anybody come and test me and they will live to regret it.

new breed/ generation?

MMMMMMM . why does he want password? bobo dey insecure but knowing some naija girls can do and undo you can see why his insecurity is manifesting.

dont give him though. he should work on his trusting issue

Pastor AIO:
all this xtian versus moslem nonsense is getting very tiring now.  

If it keeps up like this I'll probably just pack my bags and go to another nija forum.

It's tedious and boring and i do not believe that there are people that live such a pointless existence that all they have to contribute to  a forum on religious discussions is a moslem/christian antagonism that is not even conducted rationally.

Maybe the atheists are right after all.  Religion does corrode the brain.  At least the type of religion that Nairalanders practice.

FUNNY REV. U BE BABALAWO PASTOR.

Abuzola:
Pastor saying all this for that matter, maybe you cling to christianity without knowing the fundamental principle, how can you even think the atheist will be right

TRUST U NOT TO MISS A BAIT LIKE THIS

manmustwac:
The christian fundamentalists will go over to the islamic section and try to prove them that thier god is the real god and that thier islamic god is the fake god. The Islamic fundamentalists will come over to the christian section and try to prove that thier god is the real god and that the christian god is the fake god. They can all see the faults and inconsistencies in each others relgions but not thier own. Its only us athiests who can see the faults and inconsistencies in both religions.

MAN MUST WACK, NO WORY NA YOUR BELLE BE YOUR GOD ABI?

babaearly:
Christians should have a seperate board for wholesome christian discussions with a CHRISTIAN MODERATOR.

VERY SENSIBLE SUGGESTION.  YOU WONDER WHY OGA SEUN HAVE NOT DONE THIS

suchislife:
I wonder most of the ladies these days are marry for money not for love. My own view is that, there is no woman who want to suffer in man house. Even ladies they don't want to know how the man source for the money, but they are ready to spend it with man. Ladies and Genttle men i would like to hear your own contribution to this issue.

WBB

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