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yeah, oshoms is my man lol

lol that would be the tiv tribe they are talking about, but the zule zoo ppl are tiv arent they?
and tivvies dont even do that anymore, so what the deal
maybe they banned it cos of the lyrics and ish, but even those are quite cryptic, small kids wouldnt get it lol

like the song, but not really feeling the vid
and the song is old, bout three yrs

the first poster is grossly misguided, in reading the post below, please remember that two kinds of differently but equal important submissions are being asked of her. the woman's submission might seem to be only thing mentioned, but if you are a mature adult, you will see that a reciprocity is being asked of the man, one deep and layerful in meaning. i found the article below to be excellent. submission here is something beautiful, i love and cherish you so much that i give myself up to you


[b]Submission of wives to husbands

Certain passages of Paul speak about authority and submission. In today's Church, influenced by feminist thinking, these passages are not at all popular. In fact, they are often edited by rectors during Mass so as not to "offend" females in the congregation. The passages are Colossians 3:18-20 and Ephesians 5:22-32.

Both passages start out with the thorny teaching that wives should be submissive to their husbands. The Letter to the Ephesians says:

"Wives should be submissive to their husbands as if to the Lord because the husband is head of his wife just as Christ is head of his body the church, as well as its savior. As the church submits to Christ, so wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Husbands love your wives, as Christ loved the church. He gave himself up for her to make her holy, purifying her in the bath of water by the power of the word to present to himself a glorious church, holy and immaculate, without stain or wrinkle or anything of that sort.

"Husbands should love their wives as they do their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. Observe that no one ever hates his own flesh; no, he nourishes it and takes care of it as Christ cares for the church—for we are members of his body. 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother and cling to his wife, and the two shall be made into one.' This is a great foreshadowing; I mean that it refers to Christ and the church" (Eph. 5:22-32).

No one likes the idea of submission. Pride rebels against it, and it is possible that being submissive could lead to exploitation. In our day it is believed that one who is submissive lacks dignity. Such a person is giving up his rights and permitting himself to be oppressed. Submission is for caves, not free people. It is to be avoided at all costs.

Yet women are told that they are the ones who are supposed to be submissive—and to their husbands, no less! Many modern exegetes simply dismiss these Pauline verses as historically conditioned. They argue that, at the time Paul was writing, submissiveness was a woman's lot, and the apostle was merely articulating this outdated ethic. Since women had no authority, the only thing they could do was be submissive. Authority was solely in the hands of men. Thus male authority is equated with power—the evil power of patriarchy.

It is a mistake to believe that these Pauline passages are theologically outdated, fit only for cutting with the feminist razor. Rather they should be understood in light of the <real> meaning of authority. Not only are we in desperate need of a good theology of submission, but we are in need of a good theology of male authority based on the teaching of Ephesians 5. Yes, wives are instructed to be submissive to their husbands, because the husband is head of his wife as Christ is head of the Church, but the husband is also instructed to love his wife.

What does love mean but to give oneself over to another? The husband is to <give himself up> for his wife as Christ gave himself up for the Church. This is a form of submission—a form as deep and as serious as the submission of wives. The husband's reciprocal submission to his wife is the only way her submission could make any sense. In the Christian religion, obedience and submission to another's authority is never due to tyranny or despotism, but to love and a covenant between persons that respects the freedom of each.

If these Pauline passages are historically conditioned, they are so only in that their author bluntly states the duty of the wife. According to that culture, female submission was nothing new. What is new (and entirely changes the meaning of feminine submission) is Paul's instruction to husbands.

John Paul calls the teaching of Ephesians the "Gospel Innovation" because for the first time the truth about men and women is revealed. A <mutual submission> exists between spouses.[20] The wife is not to submit to a spouse who lords his authority over her. Not at all! He is instructed to give himself up for her. In the Christian dispensation, husbands are expected to do something entirely new based on the example of Christ and the sacramental role of the husband in making Christ real in the world: fully to serve their wives—instead of wives simply serving and obeying them.

The most profound form of submission is to die for another. When a person dies for another, he has truly submitted himself to that other person. He has spent himself for the good of the other.

It is important to notice that the instruction to wives on being submissive to their husbands is not unqualified. They should be submissive to them "as if to the Lord." Submission is based on the one-flesh nature of Christian marriage, in which it is presupposed that husbands will love their wives as Christ loves his Church. The wife also has authority. She is the body of her husband, as verses 28-29 state. As the body is in a one-flesh unity with the head, she can and must call her husband to do what the head is supposed to do in the fulfillment of this living sacrament of Christ and the Church.

Husbands and wives do not have authority for the sake of exercising power over each another. If this were the case their relation would be one of constant tension and disharmony. Authority and submission exist to create a one-flesh unity. Authority exists to serve the bond. It is exercised for the good of the bond, so that the marriage will be a good marriage, so that the spouses can do what is good for their marriage together. The person who exercises authority does not do so for the sake of being served. It is exercised so that his <marriage> may be served.

What does all this authority and submission mean in practical terms? Let me give some examples. If the wife is in the habit of spending money in a manner detrimental to the family budget, her husband can require that she cease doing so—and she should obey. If a husband does not want to work and so is neglecting his duty towards his wife and children, his wife can require that he go out and get a job, and he should obey.

If the husband or the wife is becoming an alcoholic or a drug addict, the spouse should require that he or she get proper treatment, and the impaired spouse should obey. If a spouse is doing something immoral, such as using contraception or cheating on the income tax, the other spouse can and should exercise authority and require that this immoral behavior be stopped.[/b]

copyright:Monica Migliorino Miller

"frankly my dear, i don't give a damn" rhett butler (clark gable) to scarlett o' hara (vivian leigh) in gone with the wind

"toto, i dont think we're in kansas anymore" judy garland in the wizard of oz

lol why shouldnt they endorse the marriage just because they had a kid outside wedlock, puhleaze

my own is she shouldnt have worn white at all, who dash her virginity hehe, yeah they should prolly have had a quiet wedding with no fanfare hehe

oh how the times have changed. remember when coke was twenty naira
more importantly remember when a litre of petrol was 11naira
even more depresssingly remember all the hullabaloo about 40 naira petrol?

gone are the days of one robot chingum = one naira
sad sad sad

what about asamau , it means asthmatic child

five thousand naira?

*hisses*

lol mamaput, sorry see my entire speech about kneeling down

but YES, i so disagree with kneeling down hehe, i ruins the knees of your child, makes them very black lol

but how can they give you macaroni and beans?

lol do you go to cherryfield or is it cherrywood

no wahala, please can you include that, expantiate on it and say how much you would be willing to learn about hiv/aids and working in that field

actually mamaput whoever is coming to your house and saying 'come on get me water to drink' is not a serious person. in my (yoruba household), having guests is not a small thing, you have to come out and greet the alejo and serve them something, me i think it is just etiquette, abi you want them to die of thirst? it is not even a matter of being the child in the house, if my parents are talking with the person, whoever it is!, i will go and get the tray and serve them. if it is only my parents there, then my mom will serve them, it is not a matter of slavery at all. all this being said, it is very unyoruba and not to mention rude for another person to come to your house and be demanding stuff and worse yet send your kids about. even in my house, when someone did that, the silent insults that would rain upon your head would be plentiful. i think it speaks to the persons character and not a way of raising children, someone came to my house and sat around for a while, and then said 'arent you going to serve me food' when he came past lunch, he then proceeded to say 'make eba for two'. this happened like ten years ago and up till this day we make fun of him for doing that, and yes i did lose some respect for him that day

mamaput:
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What is kneeling down.

well kneeling down mamaput is a sign of respect for ones elders, so is prostrating. you have been saying that upholding your culture above others and belitting other cultures is wrong but you are in very danger of doing the same thing. i must assume that you are not yoruba otherwise you wouldnt be asking this question. me i dont see anything wrong in kneeling to greet someone, it is a sign of respect because yes elders are old and wise and sagely. the yoruba ppl are big on respect, note the way they talk to elders is different from the way they talk to peers. it is not a sign of subservience nor is it a sign of submission, it is simply a marker of respect, for me it is the same thing as handshaking, pecking whatever. a lot of my non-yoruba friends scoff at that, but that is their own cup of tea.
yes obviously not all elderly ppl deserve respect, which is why once a yoruba person is of age, you do not see him prostating or kneeling to any tom dick and harry, so you tell that if i do not even genuflect slightly to greet so and so, he is prolly not worthy of a young persons respect, so the lack of the genuflection is very telling.

i agree that this respect thing can cause some pain esp when you are the age when you realise a lot of older ppl talk shit and give unsound advice, but i look at the way my dad deals with elders, he does so with tact and i try to emulate, respect is also two fold as it is often said when a child has washed his hands, he may eat with kings, if you are worthy of respect, ppl will exhort, treat you more as an adult, listen to your opinions, ask for advice and generally say you well with other ppl, they will say 'omo dada ni' --->he is a good child. i know from experience that this is true

moreover with the issue of flogging, not every family abuses their offspring in such a manner. it should be the exception not the norm. because yes children should be discplined because they have done wrong, in all cases you must remember you hate the action and not your child. but some parents take it too far, when instead of giving a set number of strokes, they start lashing all over and everywhere. that being said, flogging is not for every child. my father would always talk to me in the tone that just showed how disappointed he was in me and i wud instantly burst into tears while my mom would be yarning and hitting lol, but i am way closer to my mom. you must ask for guidance on how to raise each child because they are all different

@honeyworld, my brother i dont remember promising you a job oh, abeg no put me in trouble, i will give your CV to my contact in the HIV/AIDS industry it is up to that person to decide if you fit what they are looking for and passing it on accordingly. i did not say there were jobs available now, but when contracts are over, they might well be, contracts could or could not be ending this june, please dont use this as a lifeline or let it be number one priority, its just a shot. okay?
meanwhile where is your HIV/AIDS experience. when i have more time i will change ur CV around a bit and send it back to you, but customize your cv to reflect what you know about HIV and AIDS and STI's etc, okay i will also send the CV to the contact person to be revised okay? what else pls just let HIV/AIDS be ur primary focus not making sure receipts were attached to payments

hehe i think she is a LovePeddler for american aid dollars

mrs sirleaf, the US will doesnt care that monrovia is named after james munroe, your future is with africa not your former slave masters, stop pandering to their desires, are you a househelp?

bobo poster, but your english is tres mal now
are you pointing fingers?

i disagree with number 2

i heard beyonce and kelly are half sisters lol

they are defn not cousins tho the knowles are her legal guardians

hez prolly still languishing in kirikiri
where is that bobo that accused diya of a coup?

one of the saddest days in my life is the day i found about the sosoliso plane crash, i basically ran mad, because you see those were my juniors on that plane, ppl i lived with for years and years and promised to return for their graduation. everyday after that has lost a certain spark. so rest in peace my darlings. till we meet again

happiest: it will fo sho be day i realise that i have found someone who loves me enuff to want to be with me forever

i love gorgeous!

nah men the above stories are not exaggerated at all!
the sexual decadence in nigerian universities today is just plain nasty
you can imagine they will organise a party bus filled with college girls who will go to an unknown destination to sleep party and do drugs with senators and co
someone even posted an advert for such on nairaland in the dating zone, check it out
my friend who attend igbinedion was regaling me with such stories, small girls oh, 16-18 and as many know igbins is the place for rich kids who parents cannot bear to send them abroad because they love them too much. my jaw was dropping at my friends stories because even at my college here (one of the most liberal in the US) you have to know where to look to find gist like that, it doesnt just come to you lol
what can i say, naija girls like good thing

are you sure you have five hundred?

lol please describe it to me
ive never heard of that

i would have recommended my secondary school but we only take ppl from jss1 (grade 7)

what are you looking for in a boarding school? what system of education, naija, british, yankerz?

are you going to graduate from here?

do you want boarding or day?

what experience do you hope to gain?some schools bully more than others?

do you hope to become more nigerian?