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babyosisi:
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boring boring

This is too funny

@Iyke-D

Many Thanks.

Once you have taken Lauryn's advice, tell her to stop eating lots of beans, egg yolk and clean her intestines well well to prevent her from having embarrassing stinky farts.

@Omofineboy

I am not completely disagreeing with you about OBJ's performance, but you have to give the man credit were he is trying. All you are doing is pointing out his flaws.

omofineboy:
@Gnature,

Thanks for your response to each point I raised. But you do know a leader is responsible for all that happened in his govt, thats why we are calling for IBB's head.

1. No food- whats the meaning of food thats available and people can't buy, this is a simple economics theory, when supply is low, demand is high and prices go up, no food.

You have contradicted your self here. You said "what's the meaning of food that's available and people can't buy" then you say "supply is low". Supply is not low. The problem is people cannot afford to buy food.

You need to blame his economic policy not food availability. The problem is not that there is not enough food, the problem is that people can't afford to buy the food.

There is plenty of food in Nigeria, but what is the point if you don't have a job to buy the food in the first place ? So that is were the problem is. Providing employment, and paying livable wages so people can afford to buy food. Stop saying "No food" - it is very misleading.

omofineboy:
2. Employment- we need to take the stattistics of graduates unemployed compared to employed graduates, am sure the jobless will not agree with you, the fact that we have jobs doesnt mean everyone has.

How can the jobless agree with me ? If 100,000 people are looking for jobs and there are only 200 openings, the over-whelming majority of the people remain jobless. OBJ has created some jobs, but the rate of unemployment is so high that it is bearly noticeable.

omofineboy:
3. What Other prove do we need to say that OBJ is a disappointment as corruption is concerned, just wait you will have plent proves

Go and read what I wrote. You need to criticize people constructively and not just base it on your opinion like I have stated.

omofineboy:
4. Commercialisation of Education- when I entered University I paid 250 naira as my fees total, how much are they paying now in Federal University, under OBJ,State University?

So you are saying that the universities should be charging 250 naira for university education ? When you went to school, the government had enough to subsidise your education, that is why you paid 250 naira. When OBJ took over power, he was paying our creditors $100 million dollars a month to service our debt. When you attended university, how much was the federal government paying to service debt ?

omofineboy:
5. Fuel Price- This is only single determinant of Nigerian Economy becuase all other indices are built around it, am suprised you agreed to increase, I said up lets consider the masses of this country not a few who control the most.

I agree with the increase, but not the way OBJ did it. He did it every 6 months or so, that was a complete mess. Like I mentioned earlier, that was the price people were paying for it anyway on the streets.

omofineboy:
6. Mass Retrenchment- in other countries that are not as rich as Nigeria, there is what they call social security, you have access to food and shelter even if you don't work, so what does that takes out of Nigeria, do u consider the social and economic implication of the retrenchment on Nigerians, for every sacked worker there at least 5 nigerians that will suffer so what about that.

Did you read what I wrote about this earlier ? If you have a business, would you hire 10 people to do work that can be accomplished by 3 or 4 people ? Would you ?

You mentioned earlier that education costs too much. Well, part of the reason why government can't subsidize it is because throughout the federal ministries, the government is paying salaries of 10 people's work, when only 4 people are required to do the work. Constructive criticism my brother, constructive criticism.

All the man has to do is pay them terminal benefits and give them job training.

omofineboy:
7. Whatever growth OBJ redcorded in his 8 years reign, he has wiped if off by corruption.

There has been corruption, but there has been some progress too, even if its just little progress (like GSM)

omofineboy:
Meanwhile I like your presentation, you are very objective,

Thanks

omofineboy:
just that I hate inept leaders, leaders that are bereft of ideas, capitalists and corrupt ones like OBJ. I am sure hes going to jail, I talk about this becuase am sure not only him but all of them, IBB, ATIKU, all who stole our money just wait and see. Also you wont know about leaders until when they leave position of power anf authority. Thats why he doesnt want to go. You will how interesting post May 29, 2007 will be. God keeps on beyond that time. Thanks anyway.

You are probably right, I'm sure he has stolen money and might face jail time. But that still does not mean we should not credit him for the little that he is doing. That is the point dblock is trying to make.

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otokx:
Most of them carry the money quick quick to england, south africa, US and recently Ghana

@otokx, you cannot blame OBJ for the stealing taking place at the state/local govt levels. If anything, you should be crediting him because it is a federal agency, the EFCC, that is going after the thieves.

otokx:
and the roads are worse than when he came, nepa is worse than when he came, the mortuaries are better than when he came, the prisons are worse than when he came

Yes, these are areas were he has seriously under-performed. To be honest, almost nothing was done between 1999-2003, when mostly PDP members were made ministers.

omofineboy:
OBJ is the worst President Nigeria ever had.

Reasons

1. He is as corrupt as IBB e.g. Presidential Library, Ownership of Transcorp

What prove do you have that OBJ stole public funds to build his Presidential Library ? OBJ does not own Transcorp, he bought Transcorp shares. You can accuse him of having a conflict of interest, but as long as he did not use public funds, you can't say he's corrupt.

omofineboy:
2. 300 billion budgeted for Roads, no road to show for it

This is really appalling. OBJ needs to audit the books at the Ministry of Works. But the 300 billion was not stolen by OBJ himself was it ?

omofineboy:
3. PTDF Money stolen by Atiku and Obasanjo

This appears to be true, although its still a bit blurry

omofineboy:
4. NNPC missing money

The books need to be audited, but you still can't link OBJ to the missing money

omofineboy:
5. Fertilizer deals to Obasanjo Farms

omofineboy:
6. Commercialization of Education

There are rich people in Nigeria that can afford to send their children to more expensive schools. These are the people sending their kids to the private, more expensive universities. Also, having private schools frees up more space in public schools.

omofineboy:
7. Killing of Odi people

Very tragic indeed, but remember, Abacha did worse.

omofineboy:
8. ZaKI-Biam Killings

Also very tragic. You can't hold OBJ directly accountable for all these killings

omofineboy:
9. Religious Riot that killed most Nigerians in Kaduna

And you seriously think OBJ should be held liable ?

omofineboy:
10. Increament of Prices of Petroleum Products from 20 naira to 65 naira

But this is how much people pay for it in the "black market" anyway isn't it ?

omofineboy:
11. Mass retrenchment

You cannot have a public sector were 10 people are doing the work that can be accomplished by 3 or 4 people.

omofineboy:
12. stealing of funds through NEPA

OBJ stole the funds ? He needs to hold people accountable, but don't blame him directly

omofineboy:
13. COJA Stealing by Atiku and OBJ

Speculation

omofineboy:
14. Life presidency Project

Very Good point. I agree with you here.

omofineboy:
15. No security of Life and Properties

This is a serious flaw of OBJ's administration. There has been too much lip servicing on this issue

omofineboy:
16. Removal of Gov Rashidi Ladoja for no crime

Blame Oyo State house of Assembly. You keep blaming OBJ for everything.

omofineboy:
17. No food

There is plenty of food in Nigeria. People just can't afford it.

omofineboy:
18. Highest rate of employment ever

This is not true. The man has created lots of jobs through the private sector.

omofineboy:
I can give u many reasons why OBJ is worse, as far as I am concerned we have never had it so bad, go what people talked about is macro economics improvement how does that affect my life when i don't have food, go and ask people on d street, they know better.

A lot of the problems you mentioned have been there before OBJ became president. He inherited most of these problems. I do agree that things should have improved more since he has been there.

To a certain degree, I see where dblock is coming from.

Omofineboy, Listen, dblock is not saying OBJ is a saint, what he is saying is that he is a little bit better than others. And I don't agree with those that say corruption is greater under OBJ than any other administration in Nigeria.

OBJ's government has more transparency than the likes of IBB, Abacha etc. Go to this website :

http://www.fmf.gov.ng

You would find details of the money shared between the federal, state and local governments of Nigeria from 1999 to date.  Do you know how many threats he received when he insisted that the revenues being collected by the states from abuja should be made public ? Do you ?

The thing is that, OBJ's government has more transparency (I am not saying 100% transparency), so the media is able to disect it better than others. When Abacha was in power, did you have any idea that he was gradually stealing money to the tune of $3 billion ? When IBB was in power, how many people were arrested for corruption ? We heared about OBJ's 200 million shares in Transcorp while he is still in power. How much of IBB's money transactions was anyone aware of when he was in power ? But you know things were taking place though right ?

People don't realize that a lot of information about the dealings in Aso Rock gets carried by the media. When others were in Power and you didn't hear any "200 million shares", believe me, there was a lot going on that you and I did not get to hear about.

Think about it - How is it that in the history of Nigeria there has never ever been Admirals court marshalled before until this administration? A lot of previous Navy Admirals have been taking bribes from oil thieves in the Niger Delta for years. It never got reported, so people are not aware of it. When it is not reported, people think it is not happening. This is not true.

Does anyone know that the Naira has been appreciating ? In recent memory (1980 - present) please tell me when was the last time you have seen the Naira appreciate to the Dollar.

How about the sacking of Ministers? In recent times, how many rulers of Nigeria have sacked ministers as OBJ ? OBJ sacked one housing minister because she allocated a lot of the houses in Ikoyi and VI to members of his wives' family. Now, how many rulers of Nigeria (from 1980 - present) has ever done that ? Or do you think this is the first time something of this nature has taken place ?

OBJ has spent a considerable amount of his time fighting to hold on to his throne on power by completely eradicating his opponents; as well as showing favoritism towards some politicians and this has seriously kept him from being able to deliver to the people as he would want to.  The man is far from a saint, but at the sametime, we should give credit were credit is due.

Cool pictures Lauryn.

OMOGE #1

No offense, but please use commas (,) and period/full stop (.) when writing for better clarity.

Many thanks.

DaslEek,

Please don't pay attention to akintos. You have spoken eloquently of your intentions/aspirations and I commend you for that.

How can someone be studying computers in their last year without doing any practicals ? Like I said, you have made complete sense. You are very ambitious and I applaud you for that.

I hope your plans get fulfilled. Good Luck.

It is really painful how these Nigerians are giving our country a bad reputation.

God Bless Nigeria.

Seggzy

This is the travel section. Post this in the Job section please.

Many thanks.

Thanks so much Josboy.

Yes, I heared about this airline too. It's should cost less and save flight time. I just hope it doesn't turn out like that World Airways saga.

All the best sha.

amaka1:
errrm nope still feeling a little lost I'm afraid.

biko u fit translate all that to English, abi Igbo if English no go do ??

@amaka1

I am just as lost as well. DaBlazer, Please translate what you wrote to english so we can understand it.

Many thanks.

lafile:
whats d fuss about tribes? i am yoruba. my wife is from edo state. my mum is ijaw. her mum is Ghanaian. i grew up in delta state. dated a few ibo girls when i was single. and believe me whatever problems u can get from someone of a different tribe u can get from someone from your own backyard. it just depends on how much u know the person. end of story.

Great example of inter-tribal success story. Thanks for sharing it with us

@inprecise

Have you taken the funds needed to build the new capital into consideration ? All realms of Nigeria's government; local, state, federal, are starved of funds for development.

The youths in the Niger Delta are demanding more of the oil money, We don't have enough universities to accomodate the well qualified high school graduates every year, Our highways need fixing. Even the current capital is not where it is supposed to be (phase wise) according to the original planners.

And you are thinking about buliding a new capital. Need I say more ?

Beautygyal:
now i no why u named yourself as loveSTINKS!

@Beautygyal, girl you are something else

amaka1:
DaBlazer!! abeg spellcheck is there for a reason my friend.

all this shelling!!!!
na wah o!

@amaka, You just took the words out of my mouth.

@DaBlazer, have you ever heared of using comma (,) and period/full stop (.) while writing ? Please endeavor yourself.

Lord Have Mercy !!

@iice

and here I am thinking you are stuck @ home with the cataarrr. Na waa for you oo my sister. Nice to know you are having a good time sha

Donzman:
I see Sista has met her match, someone that actually has the time to match her post for post. I believe we all knew Sista was prejudiced against whites but for whatever reason, she keeps denying it anyway.

@Donzman

What an observation

@radiant

We need you today, not tomorrow

I am all for inter-tribal relationships, but I agree with whomever said we should try and understand the other tribe thoroughly if one must marry from another tribe.

@mamaput

You raised an excellent point on the role one's family plays, using the fact that we don't have welfare assistance in Naija. Solid point.

iice:
Spy talk ke? maybe we should work in CIA or something lol

lol

Yes bodi go tire as you are recovering. Take chicken noodle soup (or its alternative) and get some rest.

What happened to "Sis" ?

iice:
@GNature, sorry jare, we are just talking about somethings. What do you want to know?

How are you masef?

@iice, I'm doing okay, trying to keep warm.

oo No, no need to apologize. I thought y'all were speaking pidgin, aahh, then I said, haba, which one is this one oo, then I said GNature, mind your own business, atleast they are not talking to you.

You should have told me that una sabi spy people talk in the first place.

@iice, how D cold ? Feeling better ? You seem more upbeat than the last time.

@iice and aloib

Na waa for you two ladies oo, I can't even understand what you are saying.

Abi una be spies talking in codes ?

I know you are thinking "mind your business" right ? OK i'm gone

@Radiant

It is really nice coming across a lady that loves soccer. Girl you are awesome

I agree with bluenubian, I still think more Nigerians reside in London than Houston

@bhola

I forgot to add - God bless you with wisdom ooo !

Chei, I am very impressed with your feedback. Kudos to you

Thanks so much Bhola.

I will add more to this once I finish this sandwich    just a minute please


Bhola, what an excellent analysis ! One of the most important things you pointed out was the "knowing yourself well" issue. I couldn't agree with you more. Part of the problem is that, these ladies just settle for anything, perhaps out of the desperate need for a man. Self awareness is very very important when it comes to relationships as you have intelligently pointed out.

The difference in culture is as equally important. There was this non-nigerian lady married to a Nigerian man I read here on Nairaland, they live in D.C (or its suburbs) in the U.S., they have three kids together.

She says her husband is a good provider, but does not buy her flowers, he does not arrange spontaneous candle light dinners and so on. She said giving her flowers would make her feel wanted. She just put the man completely down as unromantic to her.

Like you said, the issue is cultural difference. Back in Nigeria, once we marry a woman (for the most part), we feel we have proved that we love her. But this lady still needs flowers to prove this. I don't see anything wrong with buying your wife flowers, but she needs to communicate this to her husband and realize that she is married to a man from a diiferent culture and act like a grown up.

Your advice to these women na true advice ooo ! I hope they can read this sha.

@must_a_far

Thanks so much. I am waiting for Bhola's response before I comment (so I don't have to comment twice).

Hopefully her internet situation will improve before the weekend runs out.

The place sounds wonderful. 200% better than Naija !

I see were you are coming from. Plus, less fun means less distraction so you can face your studies.

So once school starts in November, does that mean we will see less of you on Nairaland ?

Abi o kan ma neglect mi (and iice and others) just like that ?

Thanks for the advice jare about the school thing.

@aloib, I have never heared you say anything good about that place (except for the educational system). Is this true or do I have a wrong perception ?

Okay let me be blunt, besides the school, what else do you like about the country ?