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shaybebaby:
Coco DID share her experience at Uni and you dismissed it.

She wanted to have a post alot of people are eyeing so definitely some will try to demoralising her......Men face that everytime.

Everything is fair in war.....just because she decided to dwell on negative comments and let it affect her is her own fault solely.

Marginalisation would have been if she wasn't eligible to contest or vote.

FreeIgboho:
Societal structure itself is to be blamed (including traditions, customs, culture, expectations, conditioning, etc - which were of course set by the dominant sex)..
Reformed to what? You may start by giving the female child EXACTLY the same rights as the male child in her father's house including the right to propagate her surname (have all or some of her children bear her last name) - which is basically the only reason Nigerian parents prefer a male (if they must have only one child).

That the problem choosing selectively... How about she tell her father not to accept bride price or anything from the man so she can have the right

FreeIgboho:
And that's why they are crying marginalization yet you are saying they are not marginalised, when the results clearly shows THEY ARE! The females are not be blamed. The paternalistic society is to be blamed and needs to be reformed and that is what they are fighting for. Nobody is asking you to hand over anything

The female are not be blamed.....but the men are to be blame for all this right

Reformed to what exactly because I don't understand.

FreeIgboho:
Learn meaning of the word "systemic". The prevention is systemic. The evidence is in the results. Any desirable sicietal achievement you see lopsidedly excluding one group is evidence of systemic exclusion.
Example, you may say all one needs is pass an exam to get in - ignoring that some people have been systemically programmed to fail the exam.

And the question is who are the people who program them to fail

Is it the men that tell the girl child all she needs is to get a rich man and that all??

The female have themselves to blame for this and not we men..

Nothing will be handed over to you....you must fight for it because that life.

Hyerin:
Because it didn't happen to me, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Are you stupid? There is empirical data that nullifies all your points! It's even in abundance sef. You're just an illiterate because your write-up literally makes no sense and you can't back it up. Next time you make such ludicrous claims, provide statistics supporting them.

then again, child marriages is a thing in the north, do you live in Nigeria at all? Or are you typing from lala land?

Am I stupid

Like it ain't worth it.....typical foolish woman

Two words....then insult.

Hyerin:
I see that this thread was created to incite the never-ending gender wars but anyways...

First things first, it's quite ironic you proudly claim females are not marginalized in a third world country (with its widespread poverty and ranking 133 in gender equality index) which is heavily traditional/custom-based and religious (the two being major culprits for female subjugation).

According to Statista, literacy rate in urban areas in Nigeria is 86% for males and 74% for females and this is not even factoring rural areas, to paint an overall picture of the differences between education rates for both sexes because let's face it, the gap would be much wider due to traditions, customs, religion etc that relegates women to just the kitchen and marriage alone. Take the north for instance, were it is acceptable to marry off girl children at the onset of puberty and education not being emphasized/encouraged for females. That, In and of itself, is marginalization. Make no mistake though, the north isn't the only region were females are barred from accessing education. So your point doesn't hold much weight.

And to prove my point:

Access to education for school-age girls in Nigeria is also low. Statistics from Nigeria’s Universal Basic Education Commission (UBEC) showed that males had higher enrolment numbers for basic education as of 2018. Also, in the 2019 West African Senior School Certificate Examination (WASSCE) in Nigeria, only 48.30% per cent of the total number of candidates were female. However, Nigeria girls have shown incredible excellence in potential. According to UBEC, females had the most basic education promotion and completion rates. Also, 50.23% of the candidates who got five credits inclusive of English and Mathematics in 2019 WASSCE were female.

Source: dataphyte.com

In the area of work/job, how is it much easier for a female to get one and not a male? Can you provide statistics or a study that supports your line of argument? Because with the crippling economy and high unemployment, how is it possible at all for ANYONE to get a job.

A simple Google search is all it takes for you to not be ignorant.

Findings further reveal a gender discrepancy in economic empowerment. According to the United Nations Development Programme, Nigerian women only earn 77 cents for every dollar that men get for the same work. This means that a Nigerian woman would earn ₦7,700 for a ₦10,000 job. In fact, even though women comprise slightly less than 50% of Nigeria’s population, they account for over 70% of those in extreme poverty. Another manifestation of the economic inequality experienced by Nigerian women is financial exclusion. As much as seven in 10 Nigerian women do not own bank accounts and more than half of them are financially excluded. Also, while women accounted for most of Nigeria’s agricultural workforce (75% in 2014), they represent only 13% of agricultural landowners.

Source: dataphyte.com

And even when they are employed, females still face discrimination. This is an abstract from a study:

[b]The need to reduce the gender pay gap is an ongoing concern in developing countries. One aspect of gender inequality that is often neglected is the gender pay differential in the public and private sectors. In Nigeria, the structure and employee entry into public and private sectors differ significantly and could constitute a source of pay gap. This study decomposed the wage gap individually in the public and private sectors in Nigeria in 2009 using the Blinder–Oaxaca and quantile decomposition methods. The findings point to a smaller gender pay gap in the public sector compared to the private sector, due to better educational qualifications and higher income stream arising from longer stay in the workforce. Discrimination accounts for a significant portion of gender wage gap, although it is larger in the private sector. Women selection bias is a prominent factor in the private sector, while it is not much of a concern in the public sector. The results also show the existence of glass ceiling in the public sector and sticky floor in the private sector. Policies to address discrimination against women either in wage setting or hiring process should be introduced in both sectors. Increased participation of women in the private sector through creation of women-friendly jobs should be promoted in order to close the wage gap. Mandatory compliance with minimum wage regulations in the private sector should be enforced to attract more women to the sector and therefore narrow the wage gap at the bottom.[/b]
Source: link.springer.com

A quick Google search nullifies all your points


In the area of politics

[b]There are multiple factors. Some are related to the political party systems and structures. For instance, the high cost of politics prevents women from standing for positions. Often women don’t have enough money to pay for the mandatory expression of interest and nomination forms required by political parties to run for positions on their platforms. In addition, election campaign costs are exorbitant. And poor access to education means poor access to gainful employment. Unpaid labour burdens, unequal inheritance rights and outright discrimination also mean that women are less likely to be able to afford to follow through the process of getting leadership positions.

There are also societal factors that impede women’s representation. They include cultural or religious norms surrounding marriage, indigeneship – a concept that recognises only ethnic groups native to a particular state – and the structures that portray women as subordinate to men.

Even educated women face hindrances. They encounter gender stereotypes that assign leadership to men, sexual assault, pay gaps and unpaid labour, including child care and housework, placing them at a disadvantage.

There is also a lack of political will and effective government action.

The media give poor coverage to female candidates. It’s not the same as the coverage men get. Women candidates are often subjected to gender related electoral violence, threats and hate speech because of the perception that women want to get what is traditionally men’s.

Why is representation of women in politics important?
As about half of the population are women, their participation will create a balance of power between genders. This is an indicator of development in any society. Over the years, I’ve witnessed a rise in the number of women serving in elected and appointed political position, the world over. But that is not the case for Nigerian women.

The full and equitable participation of women in public life is essential to building and sustaining strong, vibrant democracies. When women are not participating in politics, it’s less likely that policies will benefit them. Women need to participate to bring attention to issues that uniquely affect them, and to change attitudes towards gender.[/b]
Source: theconversation.com

A quick and simple Google search



In the area of Marriage

You lot act like you're doing women a favour when you marry them. You literally do not. Both women and men are providers in marriage because most households are dual-income. The wife literally has more burdens because she majorly takes care of the kids, cleans the house and still goes to work. You men are so whiny, grow up!

A simple Google search nullifies all your points. You're just an ignoramus.

All this are just tools to keep on limiting the girl child.

Let talk about the North.......we aren't that naive to fact even the male child are not educated as well??.....the almajiri system affect both gender.

The educated family among them don't marry off there child of at 15yrs or pls show me any educated man in the north marrying off is child at 15yrs.

You can keep playing the Victim card but please next time speak about your own experience.

Where you marginalised in your family

Did your parent marry you off at 15yrs??

Did your parent stop you from going to school

Swinger60:
You didn't remember the girls that are married off at the age of 15years and denied education.

You didn't remember the wives that their husbands banned from working. so, they depend solely on him while it fuels their ego. (they annoying thing is both families will support him and ask wife to listen to her husband)

And, I read where you said women depends on men for everything, what of the home where the woman is the bread winner nko? And, the husband stiill wants to be worshipped as alpha and omega, if wife rebels, then, she is not a good a wife.

You also forgetting that a girl child can get herself raped just for being a girl. and, all blames will be on her with comments like, why did you eat his money? why did you go to party? why did you go to read alone at that church, school? etc. Why did you give him his number? with this kind of breast and nyash, that's why the uncle raped you. and so many bla bla.

You said men pay "child support" in this country or in another planet? Nigeria that a man will wake up one morning and send his wife and children away without any financial support till those children grows.


Abeg, plenty talk dey tire me biko.

I don't understand you male genders in this country, always fighting and arguing over anything concerning the female gender.

Share your personal experience stop telling me hear say......where you marginalised in your family??

Did your father or husband stop you from working

In a home where the wife is the bread winner and the man want to be worship......she has a choice to leave him.....stop sounding like women are helpless.

We are in a civilised country pls.

pocohantas:
From your thread, they are in every prestigious sector except engineering. Please don’t discredit your own research. I like to think you logically put it together.

Lol....I will pass it ain't worth it.

If someone as successful as ini edo can be so dull and is still wallowing in the victim mentality sickness.....what else

pocohantas:
And punish the ones that say Nigerian men are the only ones working and providing for 99% of homes.






sorry o. We have just gotten to realize you men even notice we are doing well educationally and career-wise. The Op even said the female entertainers get paid MORE than the males. Meaning it is normal that they are buying houses na.

Let me bookmark this thread.

The future is…



I am beginning to see that Nigerian women are hardworkers. That Nigerian women make up majority of the banking sector. That Nigerian women are not jobless and dull.

Most importantly, you can get men to agree with you by making them think they are disagreeing with you.

God bless Nigerian women.

Abi oooo.....that why we have more olosho ds days.

Very hard working.

pocohantas:
Wow!!! So Nigerian women are not jobless after all. This thread is eye-opening.

God punish anybody that says Nigerian women don’t work.

An God punish anybody that says Nigerian men are marginalising the women/girl child.

What is the point of sending a female child to school and empowering her if at the end of it all she still feels marginalised.

Right from my primary school in the early 90's till this point I always competit with ladies on the same level ground...nothing was given to me freely because am a man.
Is really annoying that people like ini edo and co will always come out to play the same old card of African female child/women are marginalised....this am a woman change is a total nonsense because is fellow women that mocks themselves.

I will be analysing every sector and section of social life to prove this old lies wrong

Education
Just take a look around you and tell me which female child is actually stopped from going to school because of her gender......Right from my primary school untill university there were more female student than the male......we receive the same quality of Education so were the marginalisation??

Work/job
Currently in nigeria is easy for a woman to get a job than a man.....Apart from the engineering sector which is dominated by the male most sector is dominated by the female(banks,medical,hotels,entertainment)...so were the marginalisation.

Politics
Nobody gifts anyone an elective post anywhere in the world rather you fight for it....Men fight for it with blood and sweat so if a woman wants to hold this post she must be ready to fight not expecting to be handed over on a platter.
If a woman should come out to contest for elective post in this country even her fellow women won't vote for her....so were is the marginalisation

Entertainment
Is no news apart from music which men dominant the movie industry is dominated by the female who make more money than the male....people like ini edo won't question why they are paid more than there male colleagues in the same profession.

Relationship/marriage
Today in nigeria if you can not provide for your family u are useless man.....even in ordinary relationship a lady will expect you to provide things she needs..No money No love yet they still complain and play victim card.
They can't date broke guys but will expect well to do guys to date a lady who can't even do a 1k sub for herself......they only have the right to choose but not men......were is the marginalisation

In marriage you pay to marry her,you provide shelter, food,clothing etc...if the marriage crash you pay child support.....A full adult totally dependent on another and still feel she meant to be equal with him......were is the marginalisation


State and federal government pays equally to both gender on the same level
Private sector pays equally to both gender on the same level.

I have a lil sis.....there was nothing I enjoy or had that she didn't get from our parent.....I challenge any lady here to tell me how she was treated inferior to her brothers.

What is the point of sending a female child to school from primary to higher institution and at the end of the day she will be totally dependent on the man and will always feel she isn't given enough to be independent.

The moment we start debunking the lies and stop victim mentality the better for the next generation of girls.....this lies is the reason why most our ladies are unproductive and lazy.

Help the female child by letting her know she can do it on her own.....she can competit and no one can stop her except herself.

Women stop spreading the message of victim mentality/marginalisation to our girls this 2021 not 1960.

Apus:
So you don't know Relationship is now a poverty alleviation program and a means of survival for most of them. It's the reason most of'em double date. Don't be too excited when she doesn't make demands cause she just might be sourcing it from another maga.
So, my guy, it's a norm especially if you want to save your relationship.

Save what....Money wey any of her generation work for me.

My mama no born fool.

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar
They can only say that to a weak man

Bro sometimes this ladies don't deserve to be treated calmly with open hands they will surely abuse it.
Na me cause am.....is my fault honestly

Even my parents that Labour on me from 0 don't even have this mind set ooo

This statement have being really bothering all day so i just want to ask here.

Does a gf or fiancee have a right to tell her bf this

"Am suppose to be in your financial plans"

She saying if am planning my financial spendings she deserves to be included no matter the amount.

This statement really sounds awkward and irritating to me but I just want know if that the new norm.

So gentlemen what your take on this.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
You yorubas have always been tribalistic, you voted against Jonathan because osibanjo was a vp candidate,don't expect other tribes to vote for tinubu now

Ooo really....you people voted against Peter obi nah.

untribalistic tribe lol.

muzzafar:
Mark my words tinubu will never be president

Ehya tinubu won't be president lol.

But let me tell you for a fact we yorubas we support our own come 2023.....Tinubu isn't good but I will rather vote for him than atiku.

WesternOligarch:
Traitors are in all regions and tribes....but the problem with we Yoruba's is our inability to punish and ostracize them and make an example of them, FFK's father wasn't punished for his treachery but instead was profitable in it, thus FFK continues in the family business.....it doesn't have to be violent or involve bloodshed. My father once said that you can kill a man without taking his life.

Go and read how FFK father died.....then u will understand he actually didn't benefit from his treacherous ways.

Lol.....Nigerians voted for her cos of her bumbum ahead of Mike who was far intelligent and smart.

I gave up on Nigerian youth that day mercy won.

Who can cope with a woman/man that is obsessed with his/her look and social media.

Mercychen:
That man should be watched closely.
What he's doing is not right. It's highly unethical.

There are behaviors and manners expected of a teacher. Comportment.

No one likes strict teachers.....there are still some of my teachers in high school if I see them today I will do them something strong due to there level of wickedness.

The best way to teach a child (not teenagers) is with love and lil strictness.

Those kids will always be happy to go to school.

Ezemarcel:
I hope he is not making mistake....

I remember when I was robbed back then in school at about 2am in my house..

In the morning while I was on my way to school ,any tall black guy I saw on the way to school that day resemble the thieves that robbed me..

Emotions can be deceptive attimes

But if it a fulani man....you won't ask this.

Keep protecting the evil one among you......until you fall victim.

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OnlyDeCapPlease:
Very scarce in Nigeria.

Easy to say "grow together". Most Nigerian women will shame you if you start looking at her money too much as part of family income. Leave matter.

U said most.....so just look for the few one that are different that all.

Bro u are free to follow the first go and get rich f crew but we all no is never a guarantee for successful marriage.
Go check top billionaire in the world marital status....then you understand more

I laugh anytime I see guys talked about going to make money first then you can have any woman.

Only a foolish men with low self-esteem attract women with money........ Money can never make anyone love you.

Just have something doing has a man....be able to pay your bills then look for a lady who cool headed and has something doing and grow together.

When you are rich is very difficult to find someone who GENUINELY LOVE U or NO PEOPLE WHO GENUINELY LOVE U.

There is alway a motive in everyone mind.... Never forget this.

Daniel61111:
Abeg leave am...if u wan buy used keke its safer to go for Bajaj & not TVS.
2yrs old TVS keke na trouble u wan buy 4 urself.
Wia is ur location ?

Ogun state

Daniel61111:
Used keke no get 2nd hand value...ask someone else
Also used keke no good to give out on hire purchase

Am not giving it out on hire purchase.... just want to get for a junior brother to have something doing.

So I got one TVs 2019....the owner used it for 2yrs and want to sell for 300k.

Bro is it wise to get that since I don't have money for new one.

Daniel61111:
Run oooo....never ever in your life buy a used tricycle for Hire purchase Business.
I rather you go for a new one....except na you go dey run the business personally.

Is that the used keke are not good or is not good to give out as higher purchase.

Please I need advise on if is wise to buy a fairly used keke for business.

The keke have been used for 2year.

And how can I know if a keke engine is still good... thanks