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i really dont understand white people,there is a palpable fear of islam,they dont want muslim mosques and if you ask every one of them the reason is because england is a christian country,a church which is not only fostering community cohesion but bringing those that would otherwise have become muslims into the fold is being fought,the funny thing is that i can bet you the asians are looking at that building and they will make sure they buy it and then turn it into a mosque,lets see what they ll do then.
this is not about anything but racism with a capital R and either they like it or not,the church will keep marching on,you either join the tsunami or get left behind, its a shame that the minority ethnic church in the united kingdom are not united

uplawal:
cos you dnt like your soul,honestly

cant you at least answer your name sister titialayo loool dont worry my soul is safe asll i am doing is making sure i preserve it and run the race of salvation to the end so that i can receive the same crown apostle paul and the others have recieved.that is why i am making it my personal mission to make sure both you and your husband abuzola will make heaven with me sister titi

uplawal:
@godslave,no not Abuzola,hes one of the reverts from christianity too,but a muslim till he die ,and he was not a yeye christian then, i think he was a pastor sef,

lol remember what ther bible says so many will call master master but he will deny them,are you sure your christian reverts where not muslims camouflaging as christians in the firs place?so he is a pastor i challenge him to name his church and parish i can bet you it is neither known nor reputable he s prolly a celestial or c and s pastor

uplawal:
look, u dey fool yourself in xtianity,better accept ISLAM before Jesus comes,so u dnt die in state of umbelief in your CREATOR and so you wont be forced to be a muslim when he comes or cos Jesus is coming to discipline umbelievers by SHARIA,thats why you see muslims preparing for it now,its gonna be dreadful then,he will rule by SHARIA(AL-QURAN) and nothing like yeye RAPTURE cos everyone including Jesus will die,Angel of death too will die, so just stop this your child play thing and save yourself from latter destruction okay,the better for you,godson, i urge you to get a copy of the holy QUR'AN and read it,God is the only one speaking directly to his creatures,may God guide you to the right path, amin.

sister titialayo,i am not an unbeliever,i believe that jesus died for both me and your and abuzola's sins,and he has washed away all our sins,all he is asking of you is to confess your sins and be born again and live a holy and blameless life.
jesus has already died and ascended into heaven as for the holy quran i have gotten the yusuf ali translation and i have read it,same as the bible and i can tell you that islam will lead you no other way but straight to hell.i am praying for you and i can bet you that you will still revert back to christianity once you see what a true born again and broken christian is compared to islam.

uplawal:
@babs,godslave,is just a dumb guy that thinks xtianity is the right way,hes so ignorant

sister titi a.k.a titialayo why r you calling me ignorant

babs787:
Could you please show me the verses where Muslims worship the above?

when praying,what do you face if not the sun and then bowing down to it,unless you are asserting that your allah only sits down where the sun is lol,you use the moon in this day and age for your sallah celebs,ou have the symbol on your minarets

babs787:
Proof please and I will post part from your people claiming to be inspired. Oya, start.

muslim men are enjoined to beat them if they are disobedient,they are never to mount the pulpit to preach no matter how learned they are in the intricacies of the quran,they cannot sit down with the men even husbands,in praying they are at the back i have the quranic verses and hadiths but its late and i have to go get some sleep

babs787:
Show me please with verses from the Quran, Hadith and chain of transmission.

lol chain of transmission indeed where u there when the hadiths were written so apart from relying on the testimonies of those who adjudge them freliable or unreliable how do you know because the way it is tested is mostly guess work

babs787:
Feed me please. Hope you know your bible very well before posting the above statement.

yes i do and i know mohammad in trying to validate his man made religion plagliarised a substantial portion of the bible

babs787:
Fact please and we will see which is warped.

now i know you r just having me on if you are asking this

babs787:
Ok. could you please spill that out? I mean facts. Baby girl

you need to go and learn about fistula sire,while doing that read quran 654 where your prophet was allowing the divorce of prepubescent

babs787:
Expantiate please because I dont know what you are driving at.

in every facet of the islamic way of life,women are not allowed to show their eyes,they have to be all covered up just like the times of racial segregation where whites and blacks had a seperate entrances to the restaurant,same is happening in your religion true or true?lol

babs787:
Like what sir?

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she is not allowed to lead the men in prayers,she is not allowed to sit with the men even her son in the privacy of her own hhome and has o retire to the back of the house e.t.c

babs787:
Feed me please.

start from abrogated verses especially on fighting unbelievers,satanic verses e.t.c

babs787:
Let me have it from the Quran or Hadith where we worship son.

you pray towards the sun and bow down true or false?

babs787:
Ignorance is really a disease. It seems this guy does not know how even Nigerians used to count days using moon then. Back in the village, they used moon to calculate days and there is a verse in the Quran that supports that.

i agree but they have moved on to using the internet,does tthe fact that they used to kill twins in the olen days justify moslems killing and bombings?

babs787:
Gather your tory well well uncle

i dont need to,the inherent falsehood in the quran and islam is doing it all for me without lifting a finger

babs787:
Facts please dude and let us get started and when done, you and I would go into your book and compare the allegations levelled up.
Good day

okie but all you have done is to post short open ended retorts you have not even scratched the surface in trying to conclusivelyjustify the assertions i have raised

uplawal:
@Babs787,yeah,pls lets meet on yahoo,titialayo25@yahoo.co.uk,thanks

titialayo we will meet on yahoo and i ll post some bible verses to you,i thot it was abuzola

Ogaga4Luv:
[size=13pt]but you've just exposed your inner feelings on how snoopy canine dog of all dog's became a muslim. . . .SNOOP DOGG is my MAN on myspace and rightway , iw send him a messege you' wanna-- ?? , i mean , you have been boasting and hitting your chest you can be able to catch his bullet. . . .

gimme a munite. . .iw return back to you. [/size]

i cant or wont catch his bullet because im not a proponent of violence,but i am sure he will be right at home with the likes of al zahawari,bin ladin and the rest of the islamic world e.t.c

btlasisi:
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It is clear from all your posts i have been folowing that you are simply an Islam hater. I have read a lot of posts on the xtianity thread of this Nairaland and discovered that you have not made any meaningfull contribution to the faith you implied to be propagating even when crucial issues are raised on the foundation of that faith.
Here is my advise to you: However you display hatred for Islam, it will continue to grow and attract genuine truth-seekers. Start to see Islam as a good religion and don't use the actions of few disgrunted elements in Islam as a yard stick to judge Islam, else you will be hunted for life by your own hatred on what you can not change.

hallo sire,first of all i am not an islam hater but i am an hater of falsehood, and contradictions of any sort,so if this and more applies to islam then you can call me an islam hater.
rather than asking me to see islam as a good religion,i will advice you to justify the inherent contradictions,intolerance gender inequality e.t.c in islam including the islamic extremist/martyrs which islam justifies then i will start to see islam as a good religion.
dont blame me if i dont go near a religion that teaches its adherents to cut off my finger tips and behead me because i am a christian,its like telling me to stick my head in the mouth of a saltwater crocodile in faith.
and by the the few disgruntled elements in islam are not that few,because they got their justifications from islam and millions of muslims actually subscribe to these views,hunted for life??so it has come to threats looool

uplawal:
@godson,Dnt let me slap you from the net,ofcourse i saw what he wrote,but he never abused you or said anything thats grievious,compare to what you wrote,and trust me,you done for, if u dnt stop all this

u called me godson today you must be in a good mood i wrote the same thing he wrote.are you threatening me or you r planning to make a quick trip to ijebu?dont worry i am covered by the blood of jesus and i invite you to come under back under that umbrella of grace too, we r waiting for you

Ogaga4Luv:
[size=13pt]Jealousy kill all christians---- .see this one have start complaining in the wrong time , man its too late . [/size]

are you for real??jelousy that snoop dogg is a muslim even though i am not resident in the united states,my one or two trips there and attending pentecostal churches in texas is enough to tell me that christianity in one state talk less of america wont miss 10 snoop doggs including every fan he has

uplawal:
hmmmm,i truely pity your soul,is that all you can brag about,and just to tell you,Alhaji Olabowale is not Noqueter,IGNORANT GUESSER

dont worry,your soul and body is still going back to redeemed church and the fold of believers where it belongs after your excursion with mohammad

iice:
[color=#9900ff]^^ In which universe did you watch it?[/color]

he/she obviously meant the trailer, GOD!!! black people and needless sarcasm

uplawal:
@godslave,and everyone who sees this will know you are a nothing but a deceiver and a liar,or you think you can confuse or convince readers with all those thrash up there?youre doing more harm to your self honestly if you dnt know,and you think all this rubbish you wrote is not insulting muslims?later you will all open your wide mouth and say muslims are this and that but you failed to realise the extent at which it can go,continue okay

i was going to advise you to calm down because of eje ruru,but i realised that u r prolly ready to die as a martyr so dont worry keep on shouting if you have cardiac arrest in the course of jihad you will get your own 72 male virgins in paradise.where exactly have i lied?you didnt see anything wrong in the one before mine did you?bet you didnt

na wa for you muslims o,so you are over the moon because snoop in his marijuana induced haze accepted islam.anyway i dont blame you gys really at the rate people are converting you prolly need all the help you can get

noetic16:
@ OP

the helper was definitely NOT the paedophilic, terrorist inclined idolator called mohammed

i tire o,

uplawal:
@godslave,youre so funny and a cheat,youre the first christian that will say angel gabriel of your bible is the holyspirit you claim,or when as angel gabriel become part of the trinity,i mean the third god,pls stop all this stealing from ISLAM by claiming our MALAIKA JUBRIL to yours.

i bet yu have been dreaming to say that to any christian for years havnt you?lol read my comments alhaji olabowale a.k.a noqueter made some reference to your jubril and i said as far as i was concerned your jubril is dead and buried same as mohammad,angel gabriel has been mentioned in the bible before mohammad was born talk less of creating his demonic pagan worship religion, we have the host of angels in heaven so why would i claim a demon who calls himself malaika whatever to deceive gullible muslims

Paschaldasilva:
My people are perished for lack of knowledge. Repent and be saved. Just because of miracle people want to kill themselves.

why dont you prove your assertion before making sweeping statements without any proof

nopuqeater:
@godSON2009: those who think will know that when Moses was preaching and then later fight the disbelievers, the disbelievers must have thought worse of him, just like you godSon is saying about Muhammad, above. Womanising with 13 wives, at most when Ibrahim married at least three, and Isiaqa married how many he married, Jacob married more than 1 wife, and David married many wifes and you even accused him of corvetousness, murder and adultery or fornication, yet Jesu lineage was drag through him, Solomon the wise had 700 wives and throw in 300 concubines. we can see that if any of these people wntyer paradise and is known as an elect of God, then Muhammad can not be remotely rejected![/b]

the difference in them and mohammad was that their time was well before mohammad,secondly while the bible was open and honest enough to acknowledge that the old testament was not perfect,tjesus christ came to correct many of these things as you would have seen from the new testament we dont do animal sacrifices again unlike moslems,we dont marry more than one woman anymore,we dont treat women like in the old testament e.t.c
mohammad was evil and bloodthirsty from the beginning of the medinan period till his death,that is not including all the various vices.for you to know if these people you mentioned suffered for their sins you should check their punishments in the bible.the child,the product of david's affair was killed by GOD even though he begged and fasted,david suffered for his sin,go and check how solomon died,he was aged and in ill health from his 60s or so in a time when people went past 100 years routinely.
most importantly every single one of them acknowledged every sin they committed,unless you are reaqdy to acknowledge mohammad's many sins on his behalf then he might enter paradise

nopuqeater:
Who knows better: Jesus or the Apostles? Of course it should be Jesus, unless you can drag what the apostles said under what jesus said. You cant disqualify jesus saying and place what the apostles said over it to demostrate the truthfulness of Jesus. If you do that, then you have said Jesus did not kbow what he was saying, lying or ignorant of the facts. If this is your position, you have single handedly destroyed Christianity and it is only a matter of time before the house of cards start thimbling down. If Jesus said the Comforter which is the holy spirit, the spirit of truth (speaking the truth, regardless of how bitter to others or even himself (As he did in Surah Abasa, Azhab, and others)), and he was a touchable and feelable entity which ghost/spirit without a solid body form will not, and that the comforter speaks (Quran and Hadith justify Muhammad), then any statement you made as to the apostles who are just improvising is wrong. You need to proof your statement directly from Jesus, not discredit Jesus while you attempt to lie against him by proving falacy from acts, peters, if each or both are not being coraborated by Jesus.

if you are eeking for someone to validate your dubious clims,then it certainly isnt going to be myself.firstof all to debunk your false claims jesus christ himself said that christians will do greater works than he did,so your assertion that jesus christ's words was being put under the apostle's holds no water and is a ver weak attempt on your part.
your own idea of the comforter fore told in my own bible and religion is totally different and parallell from your own literal idea of some walking breathing individual called "holy spirit"i didnt know mohammad came in form of human and spirit,he must be dual entities

nopuqeater:
Angel Gabreil is not dead yet. Your knowledge is shockingly amazing. The phenom, which is the holy spirit that Jesus spoke about, Jesus spoke about him as thus "he wil not speak of his own desire, but what he hears he will speak. he will teach you to all things, he will remind you of my truth, etc." these alone says that he must come as human being, a physical presence of some sense, having words that will remain in the memory of mankind. Muhammad fulfilled this. the ghost does not have any of these; voice, teaching, reproaching people about the real truth on Jesus. Most importantly, Quran by Surah Saffa verse 6 says that the duties of Jesus are two parters; Talking about Torah, correcting any mistake of its knowledge and interpretation, and announcing the coming of the messenger named Ahmad (comforter).

that is why i have severally explaimed that you are totally clueles in the ways of the holy spirit.the problem is that if you are totally ignorant of the workings of the holy spirit then it will be really difficult even explaining.however to help your knowledge i will advice you to post the biblical verses which "you think" is validating the ministry of mohammad,then we can examine and talk about it as for the works and functions of the holy spirit i suggest you go and read the brief description by jesus and then continue on to apostle paul's testimonies. i am not shying away from properly explaining the functions and phenomennon of the holy spirit but i want us to be focued and with clarity hence for u to produce the specific bible verse you believe poiints to your assertion as for your dead angel,i still repeat that your angel jibrin is dead,the christian angel gabriel is still doing the work of GOD almighty note that i never said angel gabriel is dead,i said your angel jibrin is dead check again

nopuqeater:
as to love or anxiety, etc; i know if am married my wife will be part of my love, a person i express emotional desire, longing and wanting towards, for my sexual needs, friendship, etc. my momma is another woman for a different reason who i express love on. i know who my lover is when i see her, in a sexual way. who is your COmforter by quality and job description as stated by jesus?

so this means you cannot come up with the specific names of these feelings like love e.t.c i though as much, your second exam is to actually measure it with a ruler can u measure the amount of love u have for your muma,your children,your wives e.t.c with a ruler or tape?
again,i will refrain from pandering to your follies i have not only posted the biblical verses showing the works and functions of the holy spirit i have shown where jesus christ made a brief intro and mentioned one or two functions,and what the apostles later said and experienced.i posted the actual time the holy spirit came down from heaven and what it has been doing i.e functions and then how this was confirmed in contemporary christianity presently.your own version of the "holy spirit"mohammad is dead,in fact his skeleon would have turned to dust by now,yet the holy spirit we know is still working 24/7
we own the bible
we own jesus christ who is our GOD the son
and he promised us our holy spirit which we have now.
so what is you muslum's business really??i thot ur quran was enough for you,why make forays into our holy book, looking for relevance?

nopuqeater:
@godSON: « #36 on: Yesterday at 09:24:11 PM » When people read your responses, objectvely, they will be able to see that you did not answer my question and unable to defend and or identify the Comforter as a Ghost. Therefore, I challenge your "time factor" by what Jesus said that Muhammad is the Comforter.

i scarcely call your reading/undersanding of my comments objective for obvious reasons lol i have not only identified the comforter by the name jesus called the comforter,i have also pointed to the verses where jesus christ outlined some of the functions.as f0r the time factor i have equally pointed to the time jesus ascended into heaven and on the same day literally the promised holy spirit ascended like cloves of fire upon the believers.so i really dont get your bone of contention in adittion mohammad was never mentioned in any way shape or form,and i dont think i have come across anywhere mohammad himself said that he was mentioned in a specific part of the bible you guys are simply hillarious.

nopuqeater:
If Jesus said he will come back in the life time of his disciples, not counting Paul because he was not among them, and Jesus has not returned even since then, which is close to 2000 years now. It is obvious that the timing and whom Jesus was talking about about this inevitable return is different from whom the Christians think they are (disciples were believers in God as jesus believed in God). I therefore propose to you in a simple manner of pue understanding if jesus was not a liar in the statement above, then a Comforter to be seem, felt, touched and speak long enough to gain audience so much that his very words were memorialized, and his movement is thriving, must not have been rejected because of a mere 500 years or a little more! Time is relative and a day with Allah is more than a day in ours; or even thousands of years of ours.

first of all i will not help you along in your delusional believe in mohammed being a dity of some sort,he was never foretold of in the bible at all.jesus christ who you are trying to align with by force was foretold of in the old testament.mohammad was not in the old testament in any shape or form.second to remove any ambiguities jesus christ described the holy spirit e was talking about in the functions and what he said came to pass even before mohammad was born and to show that it was not just stories the same holy spirit is still performing the fnctions of comforting of shwoing forth signs and wonders e.t.c
i will not keep repeating myself on the same issue for your pleasure,if you want to see my explanation concerning jesus christ and when he was coming back,his timing e.t.c then go and look at shuaibu's thread or the first page of this thread i have better things to do than humouring you by repeating the same point over and over again

nopuqeater:
@godSON: we leave homosexual sexual madness out of this conversation. two people who have intimacy with each other are either doing it legally as married husband and wife. or they are doing it illegally as male and female, both or one of them is either committing fornication because of the unmarried status or adultery because of te married status.

which one are you? you are married, then it is legal and you are calling the ant in Lagos girlfriend as a form of term of endearment or a seductive title. if you are not married to the girl in nigeria, you are a fornicator along with you. however if she is married, she is an adulteress, cheating her husband by exposing what she has for the man to you, who has no right to it. will you like it that somebody enjoys your wife, the same way you are enjoying the adulteress? am sure you do not want your women folks to be the cheap entrances for men around them, who have no marital bonds.

show me in your Bible where adultery and or fornication is praised as a noble virtue, just like marriage.

i am not concerned with societal values or constraints.i simply asked you to show me the biblical basis for marriage in the bible surely that should be easy to prove if i am lieing or not?
the dictionary meaning of fornication is, having sex before being married.
my assertion is that the word "marriage" was and is a sociological addittion which has being imbibed by society not a religious injunction.to prove my point i have publicly chalenged you to prove me wrong by showing me where in the bible we are enjoined to marry in the church or in a particular way before living together as man and wife, i went on to state that the only place the act of marriage was narrated was in genesis where isaac was to get married,and what the bible said was that isaac and the servant met a girl at the well,they spoke to her and she liked isaac,took them to her father's house and he blessed the union and the next is that they were husband and wife.

nopuqeater:
#!: Muhammad and jesus were both shephard as children. Even Moses was a shephard as adult. Which one of them is a stable boy and which one of them is a stable man and which one of them is neither a stable boy nor a stable man?

true,the difference was that jesus lived all of his life in austere and meagre circumstances,he shunned adulations of any sort so his was deliberate mohammad's wasnt anyway so mohammad was a stable boy

nopuqeater:
#2: Muhammad was a trader; and the means of transporting ggods from long distances were animals and a large herd of loaded animals was a caravan. if you are trader, a you a stable boy just because you head aforce of people who work under you and they drive your laden animals?

Is the owner or manager of a thoroughbread horse a stable boy? Is a hotelier a a house cleaner, cleaning the hotel rooms?

okie sorty of saying hausa and northerner right? mohammad was not a rich trader,he was a common stable by untill he met his rich wife who propeled him up simple,why is that so hard to accept!!

we call moslems ignorant because they worship multiple gods the moon+the sun+kaaba e.t.c
we call moslems ignorant because their women are still being treated like slaves
we call moslems ignorant because their women are still being objectified with justification from the quran and hadiths.
we call moslems ignorant because they dont seem to comprehend what we are comprehending in their quran i.e the confusions,contradictions
we call moslems ignorant because even though they have not been able to defend or justify the many acts of wickedness,destruction mohammad committed while on earth they still gullibly follow his warped doctrines and religion.
we call moslems ignorant because their old men cause female children untold gyneacological pains by defiling a baby girl and forcing them to have children they are not old enouh to bear thereby causing untold permanent damage.
we call muslims ignorant because they are still living in the ston ages, women sit at the back,never show your face in public while the men can.
we call moslems ignorant because what a man can do,a woman must not even try it talk less of doing better.
we call moslems ignorant because their quran and hadiths is crock full of contradictions,lies half truths .

explain and justify to us the significance of bowing down to the sun before accusing us of worshipping 3 GODS

explain to us the significance of using the moon for your sightings in the era of internet and satellite in space if not a ritualistic religious observance before accusing us of worshipping three GODS.
explain to us the significance of the gender inequality and why mohammad stole,killed innocent people,slept with a 9 years old,plotted assasination,and spoke from tboth sides of his mouth resulting in contradictions and lies before accusing us of worshipping THREE GODS

muhsin:
You of all people?

yes me,that is the beauty of christianity, unlike your religion

muhsin:
Who proves that?

havnt you been reading the papers where some of them have confesed to being sponsored and mobilised to attack?

Fhemmmy:
Explain pls

you wont hear it uttered from my lips,before everyone descends on me, but figure it out there is only one christian denomination that the head of their church listens to their sins and then forgives them

@poster
i agree and i personally think this is where doctrines place confusion and false teaching at the fore front of the christian church how can any human being forgive another human being of their sins?heresy

nopuqeater:
even though you did not explain how and why the Verses above are not lying, thank Allah Who has blocked your heart thereby ignorantly you have helped Islamic explanation, by your saying that the Bible makes statements that address specifics concerning both present and future. Muhammad (AS) happens to have been part of the future relative to the Bible. But you fail to correlate the verse as to the present when it was spoken expected to be fulfilled in the time of the disciples; Judas Iscariot being part of them. If there was a "he" that spoke for the disciples and their followers to hear, you would have had a point. but there was no "he" that declare any statement of authority of Mandate from God, speaking with that authority for and on behalf of god to Human beings.

without going on a rigmarole i have explaind how jesus christ described the way the holy spirit will operate i will post the verse again for yu to read so u will see that mohammad was never an issue in the bibe,

4On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: "Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. 5For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit."

nopuqeater:
the only who did it later, when knowledge has improved from the mediocrity of what Jesus said the disciples had, you had a man from the lineage of Ibrahim, father of faith (AS) saying he is a prophet to mankind; and his disciples/associates/companions were of all colors; african Bilal (RA), European Shuaib (RA), Persian/Asiatic Salman (RA), Arab Abu bakr (RA). Jesus did not have a single follower who is not from his nations of the israelites. he did not even preach and instructed his followers not to preach to anyone, except the 12 nations of the Israelites (lost in spiritual matters)

i am not competent to defend the actions of jesus christ because he workd in infinite wisdom,all i know is that apostle paul wh was a jew ascribed to himself the apostle of the genties, its like a white oral roberts or keneth hagin ascribing to themselves the titel of apostle to the black people 500 years ago.besides mohammad on the other hand had little choice at the start of his ministry,he was facing persecution according to him and needed soldiers who would fight for him,in that case colour or creed or tribe would have played little considerations as long as they can fight and fearless and ruthless and bloodthirsty

nopuqeater:
the world of Jesus being the 12 nations of Israel did not know that prophethood can come from the arabs, and bisbelieved it when Muhammad (AS) declared and finally arrived in Madina. You need to read about the presence of the Jews in Madina before Muhammad arrived. Why they went to Madina and what follwed upon the arrival of Muhammad in their city (Yathrib before it became Madina).Een today, you godSON do not believe that Muhammad (AS) was a mere prophet, and Comforter will be a big stretch for you and more than 50% of the world, in a world where the majority carries the vote.

well,you really cant blame them considering the fact that mohammad by his actions later on proved hem right that this kind of character cannot be a prophet, he womanised,robbed,killed in cold blood was merceless and intolerant e.t.c that isnt the markl of a prophet

nopuqeater:
I do not see in the qualification of the Jesus' holy spirit Comforter that he was to indiuced people to spea in tongues. You are the Christian, please argue this point very well, an argue the stated descriptions of the Comforter according to Jesus, as littel as you can and tell us which is the fact.

i dont need to because it has been highlighted in the bible i will simply direct you to the verses,

acts 1;4-5, 4On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: "Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. 5For John baptized with[a] water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit."

acts 2;1-4, 1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them.

acts 10;44-48, 44While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit came on all who heard the message. 45The circumcised believers who had come with Peter were astonished that the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out even on the Gentiles. 46For they heard them speaking in tongues[b] and praising God.

Then Peter said, 47"Can anyone keep these people from being baptized with water? They have received the Holy Spirit just as we have." 48So he ordered that they be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. Then they asked Peter to stay with them for a few days.

nopuqeater:
while you take holy spirit as a god, as part of your Trinity, an idea you cant describe very logically, worse you dont even know the nature of the holy spirit, or his name, etc (though you know the name of the father and that of the son). I on the other hand know that there is a holy spirit; he happens to be an Angel (you do believe that there are angels?) and his name is Jibril (you believe Gabreil is an angel?) an his job descriptions are well known to all Muslims.

i dont need to describe the functions or the holy spirit because the first person who mentioned this phenomenon jesus christ has done that,and the postles have shown its initial manfestations, the same manifestations we have been experiencing in the contemporary christian body,
the holy spirit is is not ,and has never manifested as a physical human being,but as an entity with specific actions,same as other feelings like love anxiety despondency e.t.c apart from the enlish meanings of these words can you tell me their original names and i will tell you the name of the holy spirit??, im waiting for their names maybe its in the quran or hadiths somewhere, your own holy spirit might be both an angel and mohammad,but the holy spirit according to the bible is here and with us till the present day.

while your own version of the holy spirit both the physical mohammad and the spiritual the angel jibril are both dead and buried ours is still alive and manifesting great works

nopuqeater:
godSON: while you lie through your teeth, playing too smart for your own good, i do hope that your heart speaks to your head, telling you that your soul disagrees with your popularity contest crowd syndrome that you find yourself. You need to cange your life from that of spiritual wretchedness to what will giv you spiritual life. then talks to your family and stop the fornication of boyfriend and girlfriend with the anti in Lagos. neither will help you against your God, but shall be reason for life in hell. a stable boy will not be condemned to hell because of his lack of wealth. neither will a hotelier receive mercy because of his wealth. Paddy will not be punished for his wealth or will that save him from hell,e xcept by his Belief in One God and Worship of that God without partnership ascribing to Him, and doing good as much as he can in goodness and avoiding evil for the pleasure of this Awesome God.

why dont you show me where it is in the bible that you must be married with a girl woman or female in order to be justified then??and i promise you that i will do so within a day and post the pictures on here, its a challenge because i know for a fact that it is not there in the bible so what is your point??
unless you are asking me to go do a nikai

nopuqeater:
godSON2009, in all your argument to defend the indefenseable, you refuse to present a single verse to refute what Jesus said about the description of the Comforter, which was clearly to be a human being with flesh and blood, walking the street. did you have a man at that time if you insisted that it is disciple that Jesus was addressing and no other people or generation? if the Comforter was to speak to the disciples only what he heard and not of his own desire, please tell me how did he do it whereby they heard his speech? and how in the world will one God be commanding another God to restrict his speech to only what he heard from Him, except he was not a God, but a messenger? Messengers from God are nown as prophets; which prophet came after Jesus? if none, then Jesus had failed again! Look am ignoring the timing, simply because I want to use it to ask you this; if the time is restricted to the disciples, then explain how you guys are still saying the same damn ghost is still talking to you, even after the singular occurence the event you said happend about 2000 years ago? What is this ghost saying to you today, if the naive little faithed people in the persons of the disciples did not have the knowledge to write them down, what about you modern man geniuses? Finally, would it not be prudent to say therefore that what Jesus said was not a future appropriate, but only applicable to its time of speech? I still wonder about the full person of the Comforter who was supposed to speak out load enough for people to hear, teach new materials, reminded people of what Jesus said that is true, separating wheat(truth) from shaft (false), and glorify him ( him and his heritage (his mother).

simple the same jesus christ who said that a comfoter and holy spoirit will come is the same one who described it here in acts,
1;4-5, 4On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: "Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. 5For John baptized with[a] water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit."

check verse 5, apart from the physical description of how the holy spirit will operate in relation to how john the baptist operated did john the baptist ever reffer to mohammad even vaguely in all of his ministrya big NO.

now how did according to verse 5 baptize?

immersing in water and then coming out.
how does the holy spirit baoptise,even untill today?the holy ghost comes upon you,just like water soaks you in it and you are baptised by the fire,that is why christians reffer to people being "under the aunction or influence of the holy spirit"

verse 2;1-4, 1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them.

if you check all through the old testament,this is not the first time that GOD has sent a message or protection in form of fireor wnd,althugh not the holy spirit then.if you check the two main distinctions in these bible verses is speaking in diverse tongues and the wind that blew in and fire, very important.as you can see the lord said it with his own mouth how the holy spirit will work and it happened that way on the day of pentecost,the way it happened was significant because it has been recorded in the old testament as a way in whch the lord has previously manifested.
you remember the tower of babel story in the bible where the lord made everyone confused by speaking in diverse tongues?
you remember when the israelites were leaving egypt and the cloud and fire protected them and showed them the way on the journey.
even manisfestations with prophet elijh