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danny360:
This talk is bullshit. "Try the feminine gender" so, females ain't supposed to be resilient or what The countries that are far ahead of us believe in developing leadership abilities and leadership qualities in younger people. Not making them look like cows and reducing their self esteem. If you treat my child like this I will kill you.

You type like a fanatical Catholic, and a cattle rearer who time traveled from the 13th century.

This is 2021 sir, and anyone that degrades you to the level of a lowland animal, by intentionally and repeatedly inflicting pain unto you deserves to be sued and jailed.

What useless discipline and perseverance are you going to achieve through inflicting of pain? That's trauma and it has altered your perception of life, and you seriously need rehabilitation. Please, I'm not saying this as an insult, as I'm into mental health.

There are far better techniques use to build this amazing qualities, and you don't need to treat one like a cow.

We are humans,

newuser11:
What the fvck man. That is fucking disgusting, mere thoughts of it is making me puke.

See this one.. This was said by many who identify as gays today.. Maybe you're yet to find your type of guy, keep looking

It's time for introspection. Have you tried the same gender? Maybe you're gay, who knows....

MaxInDHouse:
Has anybody ever seen or touched this so called black hole?
Omo you're still repeating the same thing!
It's just the force pulling all the objects they're trying to find but nobody can ever present the proof apart from the movement around the dead star. The same thing applies here if you're not interested in anything having to do with God you can't see anything worthwhile about him. There are billions of people living on this planet that will tell you what you're seeing in that telescope is a SPIRIT cleaning up the space, both the Scientist and the believer will argue till eternity because they can't move closer than what they're seeing through the telescope!




Here you go now telling me what your professors infused in your head about how WORSHIP began but can they explain why people (intelligent creatures) comes under one person to rule over them? NO!
Can your professors explain what can make people live together in peace? NO!
Can they explain why all other creatures have remained the same way but man kept improving in our standard of living? NO!
Can they explain what makes man think of health, security, education, transportation and so on? NO!
But they want to explain away how religion began simply because they don't want it. Omo you can't barb a part of your head and leave the rest unkept, if you're going to debunk the existence of God there is much to explain about how we came here and why we are different from all other creatures on this planet!


Tell me more, so in every geographical location on the planet people just wake up to start thinking they must continue living after death shey?
Let me tell you, it's because they're hearing voices from the spirit world telling them things they're used to but that only the dead knows the secret, that's why they believe that the dead are still around!




You see what i'm saying? That's why you need to listen to so many people first before you hold unto what those useless professors are telling you. Simply because there are lots of FAKE currencies in circulation doesn't implies that there is no legal tender. In fact a right thinking person should know that there can't be smoke without fire.
Of course false religions are rampant but there is true religion also, if you don't believe that no problem but try to solve those questions i asked above first.


The highlighted shows you're not thinking wide!
How many people globally do you think knows a thing about the black holes we were talking about? Well lesser than 1% of the earth's population. WHY? Because it add nothing to their value!
A group of worshipers have gone throughout the world and have gathered almost 9,000,000 people, infuse in their brains the love of neighbours, made them vow never to raise up weapons against anyone again, they settled all the racial disputes causing wars amongst other people who don't have the same line of thought as they do, and everywhere you go they're ready to welcome you as if you're home with your family. So in this same world where all the groups have failed to make peace reign in any gathering a particular group have gone round to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! Micah 4:1-3
So just say you don't know the same way hundreds of thousands in your home town never heard a thing about black holes, but as for a group proving the existence of God, that has been settled throughout the earth!


Ever since you were born have you ever observe a situation where an event occur and instantly you know the whole truth?
Come on my friend the first thing that goes around is lies coupled with lots of fabricated rumours. It's after a thorough investigation that the truth will come out and only the inquisitive ones will know the whole truth while majority will continue to spread lies or half truth abroad!
Before the lies the truth must be somewhere and some people will surely know it, if you want to know they'll tell you but if you're not interested they won't force it into your skull!

When you're sober, come back to this post and read it very slowly.

You'll be disappointed at yourself!!!

No need dragging this further, as it's wisdom to know when to put a stop to foolishness.

Shalom son!!!

Tranquillity360:
We don't have anything in common with yobas,not food,way of dressing,we don't think the same way.

No matter what happened or what fulanis committed,yobas will love them and hate Igbos.some may pretend but dip down they want your downfall.


I will rather unity with cobra than unity with yobas.



People that are been taught from birth to hate Igbos.


Umu ekwensu.

America is one of the most diverse nations in the world.

They don't speak alike, dress alike, of have same beliefs and culture.

Yet, they try to coexist as one United Americans.

Yet, you can't even love the next tribe because of cultural differences?

Tomorrow you'll join in the campaign against racism, yet you have so much hate toward your fellow country man because he's from another tribe.

Due to lack of education and ASUU strike, you folks have lack the ability to reason.

The northerners are really wise!!!

MaxInDHouse:
You're a baby when talking about intelligence!
Must everything be explained the way you want it? Can you prove everything Science taught you the same way gravity is explained?

Guy we have heard of black holes and the only proof Scientists could provide is the force pulling every object close by apart from this there is no other proof!

Not only do we know that black holes exist, we have taken the first ever picture of a black hole using the The Event Horizon Telescope.

This link might help https://api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/science/2019/04/first-picture-black-hole-revealed-m87-event-horizon-telescope-astrophysics

There is no denying the existence of black holes as it has been proven to exist.

So i put it to you again if you out of billions of people around you want to debunk the existence of God first of all you must explain why people from different parts of the earth before practice one form of worship or another before Western civilization got to Africa.

Religion began as a result of man trying to explain the unexplainable. When thunder struck, they wondered what made it happen - Thor was created.

Religion is a primitive tool which we used to fuel our curiosity in the unknown, hence birthing science that relies on provable processes for validation.

How everyone perceive this divine being is always synonymous to his geography. Through childhood folklores, stories and religious activities, a child is nurtured to believe in the hereafter.

Hence the reason I mentioned 'infant indoctrination' of which you're a victim.

Note the definition of the title "GOD" the "Supreme Being" meaning the force that's been pulling all sorts of people despite the distance and geographical location navigate towards the same line of thought "WORSHIP" we're talking about a gravitational force that's been driving all race towards the same end and here you are a mere little boy demanding a physical evidence when you're seeing billions going to the same direction.

Seems you're high on some kind of weed, right?

The diverse religions don't have similar line of worship, nor do they believe the same God, neither do they have same thought.

How are you going to explain the Christains, Islams, Buddists, Pegans, etc have same similar worship or have the very same idea of God?

That is what happens to lie, it comes in different forms in different geographical location. Have you asked yourself, why is 1 + 1 = 2 everywhere around the world, and yet the idea of God is so diverse that even in Christianitdom, there are still tons of diverse beliefs and ideologies of who God is?

And yet, no group has been able to prove the existence of this so called being or energy...

You can't just wake up one day and tell me it's the Bible and Qur'an that initiated "WORSHIP" NO!
Even cavemen back then do engage in some forms of worship, so what brought such a thought into their heads?
You have to explain that before you can convince right-thin kinging person that there has never been a SUPREME BEING!
Thank you!

No now, you're comparing a cave man to a modern human?

No wonder you're still stuck in the dark ages. I've already explained to you how religion began by these primitive brains, and you're showing you're even more primitive by using their stance as objective truth.

Dogmatism, brainwash, and illusions wouldn't help you.

Truth never change base on location, it remains consistent even in numerous conditions

When truth takes different forms based on location, know that you've been scammed.

Until Yoruba and Igbo come together as ONE, we're going nowhere in this country. The real enemies are out there, ruling, creating division, killing us, and we're busy dragging each other down.

The only reason another northerner or Fulani will emerge President come 2023, is because Yorubas and Igbos are still fighting themselves.

For my name sake, the seats are filled with these northerners who don't even know how to spell their name. From the top position, to the last, 90% accounts for northerners.

And the Igbos and Yorubas are still debating which tribe is more intelligent - misplaced priorities.

Take your time and read through the presidential address of President Joe Biden, and you'll see someone who's not just passionate about America, but it's ready to ensure all sectors are working and in order.

To create unity amid adversity, he has appointed both black, yellow, gay, lesbian, into positions of power.

But here, a president can set up a federal body without appointing one Igbo man. How do you expect the country to stay united with such actions? How will such a country move?

The future we dream of can only be achieved when Yorubas and Igbos occupy vital positions of power. When they finally come together as one brothers, not as enemies.

Cause these two tribes have been proven to be the best in the world - our accomplishment both home and abroad is monumental.

What has the northerners achieved if not to constitute nuisance on our roads?

We have the resources, the mental capability, and the population to compete with countries like the US.

Look at Dubai!!!

Dubai compared to us should be like comparing a rat to a lion.

But see how low a lion has fallen!!!

What we need at this moment is a leader who can unity these two tribes. Only then can we take back this country from enemies of Nigeria.

Nigeria is not the cause of your suffering, those in positions are. People will still attack me, but we move!!!

savageyoungboy:
I'm not a prophet but I know ur problem definitely have to do with money
Please don't commit suicide
Where there's life there's hope

I'm giving insight about death and suicide, and why suicide is not a good means since earth is paradise.

Learn to read before commenting!!!

Secondly, I think I'm the richest dude in this thread!!!

Only poor people think the cause of depression has to always be money.

BaEnki:
Hey there, seeing your write ups, I know the point you are coming from, I’ve been there before.

I wouldn’t want to discredit, or argue against your inputs, but the only thing I say is that, God existed, He’s existing, and will always be in existence.

Seek for him wholeheartedly, he will come to you
, show you himself, and shine His light on your paths.

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You have no argument here, and this is not a matter of belief but rather, proving your claim.

If you are 100% sure of the existence of an entity, proving its existence shouldn't be a hard nut to crack.

MaxInDHouse:
You're not a toddler so both of us will have to go into the laboratory (intellect) to perform the PRACTICAL!

Note that we are on faceless social media where everything we are going to do will be talks talks talks, so let's start using our brains to fathom the existence/non-existence of a unseen supreme being!

So having known the definition of God i'll ask you what do you think? How can intelligent creatures (humans) having different opinion and mindset think alike since you once mentioned "thinking faculty" in connection to opinions?

This gibberish is not the proof I asked for.

If you ask me to prove that gravity exists, I can do that without having to go to the laboratory.

The fact that anything you throw up comes down is one proof, which can also be demonstrated in a zero-G environment to prove the existence of gravity.

Gravity doesn't care if you believe in its existence or not, cause as you jump from a building, you'll crash to your death.

Outside space, where there is no gravity, the way the object interact upon impact changes.

That's proof!!!

Now I ask again, prove that God exist.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is sufficient for us that when "death" occurs, he who we say is dead, is no longer living with us.

And if he is no longer with us, then he must be elsewhere for the law is "A man is either here or there (elsewhere)"

So therefore if he is not here, then he is elsewhere.

Hahaha

You're a troll

Dtruthspeaker:
common son don't be sly. Once you talk about what we call the death of a person, which is when a person is seen to have vacated/departed this world called earth, You have Crossed into another Place which could be called Death or Nothingness.

Surely, you are talking about the Place "After the Vacation/ Departure from Earth which could also be called Nothingness as you choose to call it or "After life - Full Name "After Life on Earth" as I may choose to call it too.

Confident ignoramus, I give it to you aswear

When death occurs, there is no evidence of transmission of consciousness to another plane of existence.

Heck, this so-called plane is also liable to be proven.

You keep piling up claims you're yet to prove.

Dtruthspeaker:
Son, you started by presenting your knowledge about "afterlife" which in your own opinion is "Nothingness, void and emptiness".

Whilst I disagreed with you I did not however contest that knowledge of "afterlife" with you.

I however proved the Facts of creation, the limitations of creations, the Presence of a Creator and the Limited Knowledge a creation can have of its Creator!

A state of oblivion or nothingness is not afterlife.

You want me to ask you to define afterlife?

MaxInDHouse:
I never told you i have a proof of afterlife my guy, what i said is everything i do is what i know for sure it's outcome but when talking about things i don't know it's outcome i'll rely on GOD!
I've met many like you so your hostility towards people having faith is not new to me. Just say you don't believe in God and let's use our thinking faculty (using indisputable logics) to proof that God exist!



I never said i have any testimony, did i?
All i'm saying is there is a hope that God will raise the dead back to life again where we will live forever in PARADISE. But it seems as if you're offended with that so come out openly and let's talk about the existence of God before we can now think of whether to rely on his promises or discard it.
I am a believer and i don't need the Bible to proof to you that there is a God somewhere out there, if you're ready let's go LOGICAL!

Logical you say!!!

Prove that God exist!

peggywebbs:
Belief does not necessarily mean forfeiting logic. It is basically having awareness and consciousness of something outside our reality. First, admitting and acknowledging the non-material and it's possibility on how it influences our own material existence.

The fact remains that there are questions unanswered and our presence on earth is not mere coincidence. You can not rule out the fact that the views of the popular hold some element of truth. Even though some have been known to exploit this for reasons to feel superior or gather more followership.

Even before civilization and education came to our planet, our ancestors were spiritual beings. They still are and that is why you'll see some people tell you no bullet can pierce their skin. People do animal-human transformations. There isn't any logic to these things but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

We can't explain them for sure but they are as real as the table in front of you.

Relating to the topic, I do not believe that there is no consciousness when we die. There is an alternate reality from ours, I have seen it and it felt as real as day and night.

Let me share another experience I had. I went to spend some time in my friend's house. After playing game with my phone which I normally do to tire myself to sleep. I closed my eyes and slept. Next thing I saw was the wall I was facing to sleep. My friend she was sleeping beside me. I felt a movement in the room and then looked. The person took on her resemblance and was moving about the room. First she took a belt and it hit the metal part hit the bedroom fridge and then she walked towards the bed and then spread a cloth over. It touched my leg and that was when I jumped up. I was scared. Telling myself it was only a dream and I closed my eyes again and this time she started talking to me.

She told me that someone I was dating was coming and that I shouldn't give him face, if not I'll regret it and she laughed. I got up again and woke my friend up, I told her to stop talking to me. She was deep asleep like snoring. Well, she wasn't the one talking to me.
Two days after, the ex I hadn't spoken to in 2 years called that he was coming to Lagos and wanted to see me.

It wasn't a dream, I was very much awake

Coincidence is very common, which I've experienced myself.

I believe in the vastness of the universe, and our limited knowledge of it.

That is why I stated that I'm not dogmatic. I'm ever ready to accept new information provided it's grounded and proven.

I'm a lover of facts, not faith!!!

As long as you're yet to prove whatever assertion you make, no one is bound to accept it as truth.

Once again, your experience is just dreams, and I would advise a visit to a therapist or psychotherapist.

We have many people with numerous mental illnesses and they think they are sane.

I know because I'm a psychologist. We have many who suffer from different delusions and mental disorder.

With medications, they can be well.

peggywebbs:
Belief does not necessarily mean forfeiting logic. It is basically having awareness and consciousness of something outside our reality. First, admitting and acknowledging the non-material and it's possibility on how it influences our own material existence.

The fact remains that there are questions unanswered and our presence on earth is not mere coincidence. You can not rule out the fact that the views of the popular hold some element of truth. Even though some have been known to exploit this for reasons to feel superior or gather more followership.

Even before civilization and education came to our planet, our ancestors were spiritual beings. They still are and that is why you'll see some people tell you no bullet can pierce their skin. People do animal-human transformations. There isn't any logic to these things but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

We can't explain them for sure but they are as real as the table in front of you.

Relating to the topic, I do not believe that there is no consciousness when we die. There is an alternate reality from ours, I have seen it and it felt as real as day and night.

Let me share another experience I had. I went to spend some time in my friend's house. After playing game with my phone which I normally do to tire myself to sleep. I closed my eyes and slept. Next thing I saw was the wall I was facing to sleep. My friend she was sleeping beside me. I felt a movement in the room and then looked. The person took on her resemblance and was moving about the room. First she took a belt and it hit the metal part hit the bedroom fridge and then she walked towards the bed and then spread a cloth over. It touched my leg and that was when I jumped up. I was scared. Telling myself it was only a dream and I closed my eyes again and this time she started talking to me.

She told me that someone I was dating was coming and that I shouldn't give him face, if not I'll regret it and she laughed. I got up again and woke my friend up, I told her to stop talking to me. She was deep asleep like snoring. Well, she wasn't the one talking to me.
Two days after, the ex I hadn't spoken to in 2 years called that he was coming to Lagos and wanted to see me.

It wasn't a dream, I was very much awake

Coincidence is very common, which I've experienced myself.

I believe in the vastness of the universe, and our limited knowledge of it.

That is why I stated that I'm not dogmatic. I'm ever ready to accept new information provided it's grounded and proven.

I'm a lover of facts, not faith!!!

As long as you're yet to prove whatever assertion you make, no one is bound to accept it as truth.

Once again, your experience is just dreams, and I would advise a visit to a therapist or psychotherapist.

We have many people with numerous mental illnesses and they think they are sane.

I know because I'm a psychologist.

Dtruthspeaker:
All Glowry Belongs to The Lord. Thanks for the compliments!

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you have run back to the beginning of our discuss and seeing the end of your road, you wish to change the direction of it

In any direction you choose to go, you will and must run out of any valid and reasonable rebuttal to my answers.

So I permit you to change your earlier statements and your earlier course, but I stand by and with the answers I have supplied earlier if you can reasonably and validly cause me to "Fall"!

In the beginning of our discuss, you were after the existence of afterlife and a supposed maker.

Which I began by asking for proof, instead you apply red herring, and I pursued you bomba to bomba.

You gave an analogy of phones to prove the relationship between creator and creation, which I refuted since machines have no consciousness.

Due to your lack of understanding on consciousness, I advised you learn about it, but your emotions couldn't allow you reason sanely.

Now all of a sudden, I'm running back to the beginning?

What was the bone of contention?

Don't tell me you've soon forgotten because you allowed your emotions to take the lead.

Dtruthspeaker:
son, I wrote the book on "Falls" popularly called "Fallacies" which you do not know is
"Fall-acy" like "Legitimacy, Supremacy etc.

But, I understand, you are not able to validly and reasonably rebut.

That must be a joke!

MaxInDHouse:
Stop deceiving yourselves!
You are human just like everyone else here so your own thinking doesn't make you superior to others, as long as each person is living and meeting up with their target we are all equal.
So when talking about "thinking faculty" you're indirectly insulting your fellowman who is living his life without harming you in anyway!




You are the one getting emotional here my guy!
Coming to post comments on social media means you want to hear other people's opinion, and if you're not shallow minded you should be liberal. Simply say you hate anything having to do with FAITH is enough for your audience to know who should or shouldn't chat with you. But talking about thinking faculty abeg even madman in Yaba feels his thinking faculty is superb whereas he's caged in a room due to his inability to relate well with other humans!

So when next you're chatting with people think before you type because everyone has their personal opinion on issues, you can't just wake up one day and start telling people living their thinking faculty is not working whereas they're living their normal lives not contemplating suicide like some!

I said stop getting emotional, and you're trying to mask it with counter-attack?

These children sef

Like I said, a claim without proof can be dismissed without proof.

If you have nothing to support your claim or testimony like you prefer to say, then you're dismissed since you testimony can't be validated to be true.

If someone come and say you're a killer, and give a vivid description of how it happen, should such a testimony be held at truth without investigation and evidence to support it?

Testimonies or claims are meant to be proven, without it, there is no argument.

C'mon, you don't need to be a law student to know basic things such as this.

Dtruthspeaker:
Sorry son, it is not reasonable for me to partake in the vagaries of the understanding of the word "consciousness/awareness" for the consciousness of a 8 year old is not the consciousness of an 18 year old which is not the consciousness of a 40 year old which is not the consciousness of an insane person.

Confident Ignoramus

Dtruthspeaker:
son, I wrote the book on "Falls" popularly called "Fallacies" which you do not know is
"Fall-acy" like "Legitimacy, Supremacy, etc.

But, I understand, you are not able to validly and reasonably rebut.

I'm not dogmatic, but ready to accept new information and knowledge provided they are grounded and proven.

All you've been doing so far is to spew claims upon claims without an iota of backup, coupled with lame analogies that doesn't fit.

You said a creation much have a creator, who created the creator?

You said creation can't know the creator, the same way phones don't know their creator.

If the creation can't perceive or know their creator, how did you come about the knowledge of your creator?

You're still beating around the bush like a mad man

Are you okay?

Dtruthspeaker:
I understand, you are unable to proceed nor offer any valid and reasonable opposition other than to hide in the valleys of the different understandings of what "consciousness" and "awareness" mesns!

So this journey has reached its destination.

If you can't grasp a little bit of what consciousness is, then how do you think you'll handle this argument?

You'll be arguing out of ignorance and sentiments.

Study about human consciousness, and try to reason in regards to machine gaining consciousness.

Only then can you make proper analogies using your mobile phones or computer.

Perhaps then, you'll know how to argue better about creation vs creator.

MaxInDHouse:
Your stupidity exposed now you result to insults shey? I can understand.
If people who are living normal lives with hope are to be kept in psychiatric hospitals, please where should those who are contemplating suicide be kept o!

I never insulted you, rather I made a statement why I don't engage people who don't initiate their thinking faculty.

Unfortunately, you're the one insulting with the phrase 'your stupidity '

Infant indoctrination?
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa! If i was to propagate what i was taught as an infant, persons like you should be killed without fail because 99% of people living with suicidal thoughts often engage in TERRORISM. So the religion i was born into says persons like you shouldn't be allowed amongst those hoping for a bright future, it's either you're killed or locked up somewhere far away from normal people.
But Jesus of Nazareth says we should PREACH a message of hope to redeem persons like you who truly want to have life.
Guy if you're tired of life, just go to third mainland bridge and do the needful.
Nobody wants to die here like you!

See how you're getting overly emotional and defensive

Forget these emotions for now and be rational. I refuse to believe some folks are yet to attain some level of human intelligence.

Are you a sub-human?

Dtruthspeaker:
Thank you.
It is settled then, so we move to another New issue (Truth)!

The First Thing you need to know about Truth and Testimony is The law that "Everyone is Strictly and Tightly Bound to Tell The Truth" which is why every soul HATES A LIAR, EVEN A LIAR HATES A LIAR!

Thus, whenever a person testifies, he is Presumed to have said the Truth UNLESS there is reasonable solid evidence which reasonably refutes and rebuts the testimony given.

In the absence of any refutal or rebuttal, then the testimony is True and ought to be taken as True.

Chai.. If I start highlighting the fallacies in this erroneous comment, I don't think I'll go today.

peggywebbs:
Like I said, you are not a lawyer. This is what oral evidence is, it is evidence that is directly seen, heard and perceived by a person.

Now you are looking to corroborate, evidence that I gave but you are missing one vital element...Death. Unless you are willing to take a trip to the other dimension, you will either believe me or not. Like I said, I have given you my proof, I had a knowledge which nobody told me of and I have had different experiences not to believe in the after life.

The rest is up to you. You are the one looking for proof, there are many ways to go about it. You can join elon musk space program or you can ask death your question. But it is not my duty to convince you about the existence of the afterlife. I already believe it and I have my peace.

My postulations was never about the afterlife, but you brought it up.

Then I began by asking for proof of such existence, which you failed at by committing Argumentum ad populism.

Popular beliefs doesn't necessary mean truth. When you fail to prove your claim, testimony or assertion, be it in court, or in the laboratory, it will be dismissed without proof.

That's why your belief is called BELIEF!!! No proof required..

You just have to suspend your intelligence and blindly believe.