₦airaland Forum

kikuyu1:
Aiyayaya!? Kush/Napata/Meroe/Axum/Yam/Nubia?? Africans were all over the earth from ancient times-Goel,how is your Tamil?

Here are S Cameroonian Bassas,whose language is very similar to Tamil!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWyAYGlFZjk

Here are Australian aborigines of NW Oz in the Arafura swamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLiJ5EhNKyo

ALL 3 LANGUAGES ARE MUTUALLY INTELLIGIBLE ACCORDING TO A TAMIL BUDDY-how did that happen? Coincidence?

Not a coincidence. Modern humans spread in world from Africa. It's a fact.

rvp2018:
You're incorrigible with cheap base insults because nobody buying your delusion about India greatness.

I'm rather hitting out on topics after topics that are being presented to me to somehow prove that India's in same league of African Union. I will win every argument in the end by default because that isn't true.
For India's greatness, as told before there are 10 tonnes of indicators to shatter your celebration of India's low GDP per capita (as if it moves up Africa's stature against India even an inch). I'm just not willing to make a jumble of childish arguments and have an objective discussion.

Google "Ad Hominem". You have Google to Google India's what you called "greatness" instead of taming me.

rvp2018:
India is a poor country with nominal GDP per capita like kenya..just 2000 dollars.Get used to it.

I won't be ever used to. India's GDP per capita growth rate is double Kenya. It's MER GDP per capita will be double & even triple of Kenya too soon. So, I will not get used to even India's income group. I'm even personally earning nearly 4 times what I used to some 5 years ago.

I can write tonnes of attributes of India what I actually can say get "used" to it coz any of Nigeria or Kenya will never be able catch up with them. Do I?

rvp2018:
Having good ppp or comparitivrly better living standards than Africa has only helped India in upstaging Nigeria for the world poverty title together with open defecation.So congratulations for handing the mantle to Nigeria.

It's my pleasure that you thinking that I will give any damns to Nigeria or whichever African/other country having higher/lower number of poor people than India.

There is a thing called "poverty ratio". You would see me, for a very good reason not ever mentioning Nigeria having lower/higher poor people. Seriously, Africa has more than 50 states populations from 1/6th to 1/700th of India.
If Nigeria has one poor on one non-poor, India has one poor on 40 non-poors. This status-quo never changed.

Or Burundi is probably better than PRC because PRC has higher number of poors than Burundi?

rvp2018:
As your develop, your GDP ppp will decrease, as goods n service improve in quality & prices will also increase, so yes nobody going to really talk about India GDP in ppp outside India, because ppp cannot be used to compare countries.

Not necessarily, certain countries survived Asian financial crisis after currency devaluation, India is one of them.

And I don't think any of my whippings will do any proper shape to your dumb mind and make you understand that nominal GDP is an inductor of financial power while PPP GDP per capita is used for development. No one uses total PPP GDP.


And why I said it has holes? Because GDP is about economic activity. GDP is about trade & not wealth. Indians have much higher money in form of accumulated wealth (liquidity, homes, buildings, vehicles & so on) like any other AP country what Afros can only dream of for a decade at least.
https://m.economictimes.com/news/economy/indicators/individual-wealth-in-india-grows-9-62-in-fy19-report/articleshow/71652515.cms

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_wealth

Stevoh18:
India is a poor country with problems similar to the ones that Africa is facing... Poverty, poor quality infrastructure, dirty streets, rapings/insecurity

I'm okay with it if it makes you sleep good at night. Google rape rates.

Stevoh18:
India is one of the most underdeveloped in Asia

Not even in Asia-Pacific, leave alone entire Asia.

Stevoh18:
stop bragging about military weapons reminds me of North Korea, poverty with military power

Besides GDP per capita, even North Korea is miles ahead in human development indicators.

Boasting of weapons coz economics & industrialization is something I don't even need to boast off!

tylann:
after nigeria india is the world poverty capital
india is also the world open defecation capital after nigeria

Much better at population ratios. The one compares a country with continental population & measures poverty in numbers is himself is a poor, uneducated & mentally stunted person.

tylann:
go deal with your rapings first before coming here to downgrade africans

Compare the rape rates.

tylann:
india has nothing over africa

These are only aid programs. What India has over is a long list that won't even let this thread last. Do I post a news daily?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-African_e-Network_project

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_foreign_aid

Kazikazi:
I was told the Brits colonized India for more than 200 years!
How can u accept a tiny nation in Europe colonize a large country like India for generations? Is it u were too weak?

We were never completely colonized before 1920. Our Marathas fought against Brits and even defeated them in many wars. But there weren't only British in India. There were French, Portuguese, Spanish and Moghuls and even Russians were trying to get control over India. Indian revolutionaries even recaptured small part of India and few islands during WW2.
I'm not going to be defend it anymore with apologetic approach. Our fault. We were supposed to defend our motherland what we couldn't.

kikuyu1:
Your neighbours need a good kicking;a strictly large scale raid with airpower,arty,airborne,specops and armour on a btn near your borders. Make sure you inflict at least 30% casualties without going more than a couple klicks into Pak to avoid escalation. Not an invasion but a real brigade live firex;basically a dominance display to show who's the boss.

They are getting very good amount of pounding already. Their military casualties since March are in three digits but they can't tell to world as they will have to react against a much bigger military. But Indian OSINTs are rummaging through their social media accounts to collect proofs. Here is a bit from my gang.

https://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/atleast-64-pakistani-soldiers-killed-in-just-5-weeks.81741/

We will wipe them off from map too but at appropriate time. We don't have anyone to back us unlike their American and Chinese allies. So we will have to be equally strong to be like them.

edon21:
I won't say that India is poor but I'll Say that they're really wretched.
if you don't agree then research

I never denied. I will even explicity accept that India is still poor. But against the standards it compares to. We can't be called poor outside Asia-Pacific or North Atlantic.

tylann:
africa is old but we have never heard any meaningful civilization like india which is still poor as africa despite having one of the best civilization phases in the past

India scripts disagree. They mention trade with civilizations of East Africa.
Anyways, even same logic may apply to China too. It isn't a developed country either.
Africans are older people than us but they didn't build giant kingdoms and universities. Persians, Chinese and Indians were first to do so but they could not industrialize (what made West rich actually).

Mkenya2019:
Nominal GDP is not about international financial power That right there is crazy. It just GDP in market prices converted into USD. The USD as global currency is taken as good comparator. Obviously IMF/WB and other institution have tried to come with PPP - by trying to determine prices of common goods and services based on local conditions - but it's not without criticism either - for instance hair cut in New York is not the exactly the same as with India (Quality of Good & Services ).

Nobody will classify India a middle income country based on their PPP - they will remain a low middle income - until their nominal GDP per capita exceed 4000 - which will not happen until around 2030.

Overall I don't see much difference btw India and Africa - they both have nearly 1.4b with GDP of 2.5-3 trillion. Their nominal GDP need to double to join middle income countries.

Seems that its impossible to shove this up in your mind that status of living standards of countries mismatch with their income groups defined by world bank. It's first time I'm facing an idiot who classifies countries on MER per capita just because it milks his dreams. Everyone cites PPP per capita.

You don't have to worry still. Even India's GDP (MER) per capita growth is triple of Africa. So we will enter WB upper middle income group before 2030 even at our slowest speeds.

Obiano13:
Indian poverty is a well known phenomenon globally! If you are trying to equate unsanitary Hinduass life with RSA life you be just common Thuggee! I saw an Indian thanking the British for colonizing and taking them to Europe as servants Really? Which kain caste be that woman and do you fall under the same caste Snob!



how is that your business? refute or no refute doesnt make a difference for someone in the Indian subcontinent. you have karachi next door to deal with leave Africa matter.

I don't have words to describe your state.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Please I have a question for you can you blame a country for being looted after independence when the vote for people which are criminals. Look at Nigeria and Democratic Republic of Congo I do not think you can blame the development world for looting these countries. If you go to a prison I do get the worst prisoners I vote for them as leaders what do you expect oh you get stuck illiterate I vote for them as leaders what will you get also if you put incompetent people in power just because of their tribe or religion what will you get. Look at a case like Zimbabwe where the former White ruler called en Smith told Mugabe in his face before election if you get independence Britain will milk your country 20 times more than when under apartheid. Isn't it true that is what led to zimbabwe's economic ruins.

Things aren't as simple as you think. Do you think that there was no corruption in West or there is some sort of magic wind to turn your country upside down? Corruption, savage and greed is everywhere in world. European people aren't some sort of angels. Their law & their existing luxuries only prevent them.

I don't say that third world can't do better. But your problems aren't as simple as you think. GDP is just an indicator of economic activity in your country. Not an actual well being which is your wealth. It is easy to increase GDP with time but not wealth which results in long term stagnation.

You can trade within country to generate GDP but for wealth, you have to have resource extraction tech or export finished product (made from indigenous or imported raw material). Becoming a part of global supply chain is most difficult part of nation.
It's like competition for getting a job. Countries who become integral part of chain by hook, crook, innovation, stealing, cheating, begging or bullying get benefited. For every growing country, many others suffer. India can't set up a thousand factories to make smartphones as world buys Chinese.

One more thing:

*Brits were blood suckers.

Mkenya2019:
HDI is not from WB or IMF. HDI is UNDP index that tries to look beyond GDP. Norminal GDP is use to compare countries. WB classify countries into LDC, LMI, UMI, and developed world based on nominal (usd) gdp per capita. GDP per capita (PPP) is only good to determine internal stuff within the country...like poverty level...but international comparison,...say btw India and Africa...you can only accurately use nominal GDP

I didn't deny that nominal GDP is the measure of international financial power. Development has little to do with government's international financial power. It is internal. For HDI, I said all indicators by SUCH organizations.

The few indicators which use nominal GDP capita fail greatly in reflecting realities. You can't call PNG or Solomon islands more developed than India.

kikuyu1:
I'm well aware of that! Actually you're too nice dealing with their 24/7 sabre rattling, posturing and proxy warfare in J&K. What stops you from squashing them once and for all-I have my strong suspicions but tell me.

BTW, unannounced India-Pak skirmishes are still going on. Casualties, real death numbers and timeline are kept secret and never revealed. We will come to know some 20 years later.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-would-be-a-southwestern-power-says-jaishankar/article29580988.ece

A new revised military doctrine is under contemplation regarding India's posturing too.
https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/new-military-doctrine-to-be-submitted-in-october/story-S0payhw9CgFs5FfeMqAMyI.html

A completely new posturing strategy is under draft for 2030 when India's economy will be next to just US and China. India aims to be a pole itself in a multipolar world of future rather than joining US or Chinese gang.

Indian government has formed Defence Space Agencies, cyber agencies, launching more & more spy satellites, funding more & more desi R& D projects and has been preparing to put all the forces under one command. India's defence exports have gone up 25 times and will enter top 10 too soon.


We are living in very intetesting times. Here in Eurasia, civil wars with modern weapons, terrorist groups, more and more states with nuclear weapons, warfare moved to space, multiple great & middle powers with nuclear weapons in immediate neighborhood (like Europe in WW2). Unlike during cold war & early post cold war, when no one could stand against US or USSR, today's great powers are close to each other. There are a lot countries with similar power levels or those levels close to great powers.

I bet you guys won't deny about the problem that any of you don't have two enemies with nuclear weapons in immediate neighborhood unlike India. We have to take care of one-sixth of humanity while taming them too, daily.

kikuyu1:
I'm well aware of that! Actually you're too nice dealing with their 24/7 sabre rattling, posturing and proxy warfare in J&K. What stops you from squashing them once and for all-I have my strong suspicions but tell me.

This is what stopped us. Just 3,000 kilometers away, American and British nuclear flotilas were ready to nuke us like Japan.
https://swarajyamag.com/politics/india-could-have-split-west-pakistan-in-1971/

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/reveal-names-of-cia-moles-of-1971-war-cic-393131
This is why we tested nuclear weapons in 1974.

For your information out of entire media bubble & propaganda, we didn't have any countries as "friends" (except for Japan & France).
India has faced direct hostilities from West, China (even Soviet Union before agreement of 1969).
Pakistan is still official non-NATO ally of USA and proxy of China and the West to keep India contained in its region. It was finally India's economic development after 90s that has somehow diluted this. Technological advancements after good funds in 2000 made those countries nice to us. We later on developed lot of military doctrines and weapons and are still doing. Will do till we have enough.

Now, West wants India to rise to contain China but doesn't want India to cross red lines either. India has some other thoughts.

rvp20182:
You cannot use GDP (PPP) to compare countries. You use it internally for stuff like poverty analysis. That is why WB/IMF use nominal GDP per capita to classify nations level of development. India definitely turn the corner - but it's still very much as poor as Africa. Sub-Sahara Africa obviously is doing very badly.

What I don't understand is why India is so poor yet it has been part of modern civilization for many centuries.

Most of Sub-Sahara Africa were cut off from rest of the world until 100-200yrs ago and in those 100yrs have made incredible strides...from walking bare naked..to having cities.

No, they use PPP & HDI to compare levels of development wherever I checked.

GDP (nominal) is translator of national financial power globally while GDP (PPP) per capita is indicator of well being internally. Nominal too won't be a long deal as India's GDP per capita doubles in 6-7 years.

And please understand that, I'm not trying to demean Africa in anyway. But calling the places "same" is a bit too much. My state only translate that India is catching up again fast which is factually correct.

The old Indian civilization is poor today for same reason Africa is today. Western looting machine in past few centuries. Technically, Africa is older than Asia.

Mkenya2019:
India and Africa are under-performing siblings...except India has nearly twice Africa GDP PPP.

Africa (2017)
Population 1.307 billion
GDP $2.19 trillion (Nominal; 2017) $6.36 trillion (PPP; 2017)
GDP growth 3.7%
GDP per capita $1,720 (2017; 6th)

India is slightly high at 2.57 trillion with population of 1.37B (11 trillion PPP)

In 2019, Indian GDP is close to $3 trillions and growing even faster ahead of Africa's $2.4-2.5 trillions which is a quite good gap.

Nominal GDP doesn't count for development but financial power of government internationally. That's why we use PPP whenever to study living standards of people. Check the Indian & African GDP & per capitas in 1960s, 1990s, 2010s and 10 year later.

Mkenya2019:
Goel,
Looking like Indian is very similar to Africa - the indian middle belt - nearly equal as poor.

You are using India's 2011 numbers & comparing them to Africa 2019? I'm tired explaining too much of it. As if fellow Africans who visited India aren't able to summarize it.

Obiano13:
Why trying too hard to link RSA and India? Are you RSA sef RSA is an African country, India is an Asian country. This thread pertains to African countries but not Asian countries. Your Indiass only welcome if you reside in an African country. fyi, rsa is the most developed state in Africa, more developed than India and Karachi. In terms of quality of life, almost all African countries except those in wars surpass Indiass, Gandhi!!!

1. In terms is quality of life, RSA has a high poverty ratio & inequality, inequality adjusted HDI well behind India.
2. No, I wasn't comparing RSA to India. Some other member was doing what I was trying to refute. RSA indeed is far ahead of most African states what doesn't go in mind of fools.

Stevoh18:

Come on, response & attack can stay limited to a particular member. This particular relevance can't be challenged however.

So basically, I'm not gonna get any response. RSA can kick the --- of any African country & India can do same to entire Africa or West Asia & Indo Pacific and you guys can't respond anything better except spinning it around.
Case closed

Obiano13:
Shouldnt your Indiass be more worried about pink policemen and basic sanitation Why should a low caste Indiass be in an African forum chest thumping about a country with problems no different from any third world country

Kazikazi:
The GDP per capita of India in 2019 is $2,016.In 1960 you had GDP per capita of $82.
In current figures,India is way poor than most African countries.
Botswana,Namibia,SA,Mauritius, Seychelles, Swaziland,morocco,Egypt, etc are richer than india

*2036 billion in 2018, 2019 figures are yet to arrive.

Where do they stand vis a vis all other human development indicators? AFAIK, GDP per capita is always studied in PPP for a reason as India's localised industry makes the cost of living in India much cheaper. Once again, Mauritius & Seychelles are Indian countries themselves.

Pick up their poverty ratios and inequality adjusted-HDI, even half of these handful of countries will shatter in no time.

Picking a handful of countries to boast of won't help you. Coz on average, Africa stands nowhere near India. Behind in terms of development indicators and far behind if we go ahead & cover technological aspects. India's GDP per capita is still growing faster than these countries. Even these countries with higher GDP per capita than India have multiple holes in their indicators along with no industrial base. India will leave behind them too like others.
There are tonnes and tonnes of indicators which you can go through and HONESTLY ask yourself, who has done better?

And now let's put all this nationalistic chest thumping aside and get on topic. As instead of replying to my question, you tried to brush it away by tempting me with ad hominem and telling me what YOU THINK about India.

I said no other African country comes anywhere close to South Africa. I hate this country for its anti-Indian political posturing multiple times. I usually try to insult them on other forums, here I've came across stupidity against them what they most certainly shouldn't face.

So, my point remains. CAN ANY AFRICAN COUNTRY STAND UP TO RSA? Can anyone of you?

India is far away in another league all together and if you think there's some sort of "competition" between India & Pak, you don't even have a clue about world around. Don't blabber about India because I won't respond. I don't think I have to preach much about it.

pacretus:
when I hear India, what comes to mind is poverty overwhelming population, jerks and a nation competing against Pakistan.

If you are a dirty pig and you know your mother is a who.re. mention me.

Not surprised, that's all what an I'll educated street genius would know about India. Afros calling India poor. LOL, my @$$.

AskiaHarem:
Your opinion......

LOL
Will your denial will make any difference to my opinion or facts? My opinion won't indeed matter for 13 years old African nationalists. No African country (except far away Egypt) can dare to challenge RSA for a war.

pacretus:
rivals like in terms of xenophobia or white supremacist.

In terms of technology. Aircrafts, shipbuilding, missiles, nuclear weapons & a lot. South Africa simply can't be compared to any other African country. It has made strides in nearly every sector.

pacretus:
Which exactly?? Don't feel too important coz they compared with you.

Indians don't need comparison by South Africans to feel important either. Our giant is bigger than naija, RSA or even entire Africa combined in everything except natural resources.

We know where we stand and our egos are shattered by west and our giant neighbor PRC only. And we don't have to make brainfarts either because of lot of practical demonstrations.

MiddleDimension:
why do you like lieing to yourselves?

so much respect to you guys but stop compating your country to Nigeria or SA. apart from those in N Africa, these two countries Nigeria aand SA do not have rivals in the whole of Africa.

i understand you have to be patriotic and defend your people. but the TRUTH still is that you really are not match for those two countries.

the Lagos economy is bigger than yours. and any other African Economy apart from SA, Egypt, and maybe one other one.

South Africa doesn't have any rival in Africa. Stop hyphenating your countries with them.

urahara:
Lmao , all these countries you have listed are mega importers . These countries import more than the whole of Africa combined.

The shopping list of these countries is much longer & advanced. There is nothing that Africa makes and they can't.

Nowenuse:
India is also a 3rd world country like Nigeria where women are groomed from childhood to please men. Women are taught to be better cooks than better Computer typists. Women are taught to be better home cleaners than critical thinkers.
It is a reflection of our culture.

Westerners & Chinese/East Asian people also had a similar culture in the past, but they succesful eradicated it through the industrial revolution and fight for women's rights.

The degree matters. This culture is still prevalent in smaller degrees in Asia Pacific and higher degrees in and higher degrees in Africa & middle east. India definitely has higher instances of it than West and East Asia but lower than Africa and middle east.

And stop using this "third world" tag as a symbol of poverty. Third World refers to the nations which were allies of neither side during cold war. Case is different that most of us were poor.

BTW, my comment on thread, they could better use desks attached with partitions or covers like they use in entrance exams. This one looks stupid.

fergie001:
World's seventh largest economy, a glorified shithole?

Now fifth. Fourth in 3 years as Germany is declining. Japan too will be hunted down 5-6 years to become third after US & China.

namiji2598:
INDIA and NIGERIA which is more of a shithole
like for Nigeria
share for india

Just ask Nigerians who have ever visited to India whether India is like Nigeria in common or not. Even our smaller cities.
Agree that it's not a very great place to live in but it isn't a $hitole either unlike shown by western propaganda machine.

Our $h!thole is glorified for various reasons that prevent us from falling into league of Nigeria.

Those poor rural areas are either very remote or used to be common during early 80s. Collapsing every decade on.

sulasa07:
Over population is a very bad thing,
Truly,O didn't know what was wrong with Nigeria b4 but now,that Ive known that Nigeria is the most populated Nation in Africa,I now know where exactly our problem evolved from
Nigeria=India, India=Nigeria

Not population and population growth has little to do with it. Countries with world's highest population densities are among most advanced in world while those with low are backward. Successful ones of them have population concentrated in particular region of their country. Because denser population makes infrastructure projects feasible what won't be possible in a vast and barely populated country. (Doesn't mean that you should let go it crazy high either. Nigeria can't keep 1 billion people with less than one third or less than one tenth of areas of India & China).

Your country STARTS to improve (and won't suddenly become successful) once you get hold on it (neither high nor low population growth).

vaxx:
It seems you childishly want another comeback. Your faulty thinking and unnecessary chest beating can best be described as an epic fall. you seriously had one. such an idiot .

My faulty thinking? Whatever I said was always supported by facts, stats & history itself and not brainfarts from WhatsApp universities.

You typed things out of thin air without even checking for factual accuracy and then started carrying out personal attacks, changing topics, using strawman arguments and so on.

Who wouldn't love to frequently call out such a member? You still are reluctant.

As for my "chest thumping", I told before that I'm a defense enthusiast and I hold a certain level of knowledge of technologies of military equipments (if anyone is interested) and geopolitics which is above average of a juvenile. It's my hobby (soon will be profession). I didn't claim anything outta thin air and there is no boasting involved.

I also have a community of people like me where there are lot of seniors to me with far better experience.

I didn't beat chest. I was debating while you jumped in & started calling it chest thumping (said I'm "overhyping myself" when you yourself were clueless. Basically, I'm not intelligent but you are an idiot.

kikuyu1:
Its always good to read sense but honestly why are you here? This is the calibre of too many posters here which partly explains why this thread will never die.

Noted, I shouldn't bump this thread again. I'm not gonna learn anything from this forum at least.

vaxx:
buffon ...What caste are you ? i have choosen to caste outside antiquated stratifaction.

We blow at caste, you do at ethnicity, simple is that.

vaxx:
so far it is you Goat from a cast society. it is understandable.

No, I actually collect mentally stunted samples from various forums and eventually go back to call them out. So stop bringing castes in between. Remember the argument?
So, you got anything real or same pathetic uneducated & unrelated logic of "age of the country" and conspiracies about historical economic data?


Anyways, I have a proposal. By end of this year, country by country: Ghana, Kenya & Nigeria, let's list up notable events/periods for the country this year as well as from independence. I need some familiarity with African news. I will post same about India if anyone wants. Especially for the people who don't have any knowledge and perception is based on juveniles in their locality.

obaaderemi:
Can you see how stupid you are? Because a Ghanaian/Nigerian guy knocked you out,you become suddenly so childish and abusive.

He never knocked me out. He was so incompetent, overproud & ignorant that he not only wrote things made up in his mind without any confirmation but was even trying to defend it actively.
I left because I knew he will keep on replying & changing topic to keep himself with last response in the debate.


As for Nigerians, this thread is a pathetic circus. Kenya & Ghana are ahead of Nigeria in most indicators and it's a fact.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
mumu....a product of a petty, wretched who-re! Dirty, smelly, piggy creature with a diarrhetic, cancerous mouth and odoriferous anatomy.
The whorish rape victim would have done humanity a great favour if she had heeded to the doctor's advice to abort a disaster like you.
Only an slowpoke and a product of statutory rape would reason through the anus like you.
Oya! Slither into your rat hole now that u have been served with a dose of what you bargained for.

What's rape rate of Nigeria?

NigeriaIsDoomed:
We are Nigerians, you can mess up with other Africans like Kenyans but not us. Efulefu Indian, Unamikot, ndi ara, onufia, olosho.
I don't know who uncaged you, stray dog!

LOL, anyone can mess up with anyone internet. Out of it, I'm a financially far stronger person than most people here.
As for entire Nigeria itself, my country alone is more than entire Africa combined.

Logobenz0:
Nigga fvck you and your poverty stricken shitthol.

Your ones is already far more fcked than mine, is getting worse every year.

Logobenz0:
Vaxx is Not a Nigerian. He's from Ghana you dick sucker.

Still an idiot!

So, hello all a-hole Nigerians.
Where is that dumbo vaxx these days?

RTSC2:
Look at this clown.
Talking to you about economic matters is even insulting.

The day Ghana would have a company like fidelity bank, then they have arrived.

I won't even bother to add the heavy hitters.

No matter how low India falls, it would never be as poor as Sri Lanka.

That is the case of Nigeria and Ghana.

1. We are not richer than Sri Lanka. Per capita GDP of Sri Lanka is double of India and also other things like HDI, literacy and poverty rate much better than India. India and Sri Lanka are like USA & Switzerland. Because Switzerland & Sri Lanka are smaller countries than powerful and large economies of USA & India.
2. No, India isn't falling. It's per capita GDP and all indicators are improving very fast.
3. Nigeria & Ghana are a different case study altogether. Nigeria's GDP united per capita is close to Ghana only because of extra circulation due to oil. Otherwise, it's a different and poorer country. (No offence intended at any Nigerian).

tintingz:
In india, elephants are their best friend.

Hello, I'm an Indian and elephants are very dangerous animals. Those who have elephants are a small community very skilled people with licenses. Elephants aren't caught & domesticated that easily and their transition to residential places is very restricted.
You won't able to handle an elephant once it gets spooked by any nuisance and how many lives & how much wealth it will threaten if not shooted down on the spot.

You Afros got even bigger elephants so you may know better how ugly they can make it.

Orissodiq:
lol.... Military nuclear capability indeed. U better clear ur Africa mind. Go and Google Pakistan �� military strength and nuclear capability. Only India can tell you the story

India has told the story by breaking them into pieces, making them run to UNSC for help and release our pilot unconditionally.
Go & google Indian military strength, nuclear capability, chemical & biological weapon capability, anti nuclear missile shield, reconnaissance capabilities, communication, seeker and missile capabilities, industrial capacity and economic might of India.

Comparing India with Pakistan is like lamp with the sun.
Pakistan isn't a competitor but a nuisance for India.
India vs Pakistan is like Russia vs Ukraine or USA vs North Korea.

samorobo:
I feel sorry that you don't know the two-faced demon you are dealing with..most espespecially that Indian kenya called RVP that had to switch to his goel account

I'm not a Kenyan idiot. Sooner you realize it, better for you.

samorobo:
to defend his second stupid nation India before vaxx.

Indeed, most stupid nation India is.

By default, my country doesn't need any defending against your countries. My country alone can devastate your entire continent without getting much damage on its own end. If my country chooses to turn hostile openly to any of Nigeria, Ghana or Kenya or any other African country, it will get isolated shortly and future will be in danger.

My nation's anti colonial moments were inspiration for anti colonialists of rest of world, immediately after freedom my country direct hostilities from USA (on Portugal) and Soviet Union (on Kashmir) and ended up turning them ally.

From nuclear to chemical, biological to conventional, fragmented to thermobaric, tactical to strategic, India went on developing every kind of technology and made a robust defense that made India invasion proof against any superpower or colonizer. It then started on pulling millions out of poverty every year while dealing with wars always on multiple fronts outside country and secessionist insurgencies inside country (finishing nearly all) and still facing while growing. From basic automotive to rocket science, India pursued nearly everything what a great power has at low income status early.

At a per capita GDP (nominal) of just $2,200 which itself is growing at very fast pace, India has much better HDI, other human development indicators and access to technology. While you guys still keep on running after other countries for aid, my country has transformed into a donor of aid. We don't have to compromise our national interests in return of nothing against foreign pressure.

Keep on your drama with your African fellows only.

samorobo:
IThe reason he wrote that is because he is pissed with vaxx on is analysis on india's economy.

Which analysis? What did he analyse at first place? He just googled Indian news and copied some faultline comments over Indian Central Budget FY2019-20 to keep his argument alive.

There was no "analysis" or conclusion involved anywhere.

What do you think? Nigerians trolling people here is actually pissing them off? No, they are even taking more pity on your ignorance. Especially for India, your trolling won't change Nigeria's status vis a vis India.

vaxx:
I don't free idiot , especially when i got the sense you are been back up with similar fool like you. .

Who

vaxx:
i actually don't care.

I don't either. Indians rarely talk about Africa in general. I'm the one exceptional who keeps on visiting other sides to know about their politics. Here, I got stumbled with a pathetic idiot.

vaxx:
Anyway i found so many pattern of thinking style between you lot and this clearly give a clue it might be the same person.

What are you waiting for? Just list up a couple of those patterns.
I'm confident enough that my pattern doesn't coincide with anyone.

vaxx:
honestly i still doubt you are still not the same person. you just sound like him now.

Stop wasting time on me then. I can't do anything about that. Quote that person only in response to me. Because I'm tired, found you extremly stupid and not going to reply to you anymore. By the way, this is me.
https://www.facebook.com/aman.goel.376043

vaxx:
You are very daft with this reek utterances. You write so many verbose even without having a thought of understanding your own message. but when i simplify it back to you, you edit it and choose to answer what you seems fit. very unfortunate and disappointing of the so called academics you claim you learnt. you called it lies becuse you can't provide the alternative, you call it lies because you continue to failed to defend your own garbage. I shorten my reply with you because it is not an engagement of intellect but purposely for rubbbing egos. when i see you have point and simply make point like men and not like a goat. count me on board again. ( using many words when not necessary is never my thing)

Just because your comprehension skills are too weak to understand what I wrote, it's not my fault in anyway.

Just at start of debate, I asked you to study Economic Complexity Index, Demographic Transition model, Great Divergence, East Asian renaissance and economic history of world.

You didn't know anything about it nor you bothered to research.
And blabbered here whatever was in your mouth.
World doesn't work in simple way what you believe. Make strategic studies your hobby and you will be wondered everyday.

vaxx:
Understand me goat, you have a poisonous reasoning, if you seems to have gotten a look alike friends who easily fall in love with your verbose. you are yet to impressed me.( many at times, your reasoning are faulty). you don't even argue anyway but simply interested in ego competition which I can help you to compound your problem.

Me being egoist? The education and knowledge I have collected over the years in my work field and my hobby is something you can only dream of. I'm not here to impress you or anyone else. However, for my "look alike" friends, you must agree that my pattern is different and I'm a different individual.

I keep mouth shut on topics what I don't know anything about. I don't give up however when someone is spewing bullsh!t.


There is a thing called "Debate Pyramid". Do study about it. Along with my arrogance, all insults, personal attacks and abuses I threw at you, I kept myself restricted in confines of debate pyramid. I only added arguments, didn't change them unlike you. You were continuously jumping from one side of argument to other and even changing them purposely.

Just start reading our debate posts since start, you will get how big irritant you were. Go and study that pyramid.

vaxx:
Total bullshit as usual.

Wow wow wow!
Me spreading bullsh!t? It's you who has been crapping from mouth literally, giving made up statements, one after other and either changing entire context or skip them from your post altogether.
Let me list up quite a few:
1. Countries with large population do grow (LOL).
2. China was never poorer than Africa (See economic history of 20th century).
3. Chinese GDP is bigger than USA & EU combined (LOL) as per "reliable sources".
4. India had "poltical instability" (LOL) and for this reason couldn't surge as ahead as China surged.
5. China & India have "historical advantages" (which and how they affect?) for which they are destined to be large economies.
And so on.

Running away here & there, you lost entire essence of argument (which compared India & Africa) and googled education budget & unemployment trending in India. You skipped Nigeria immediately because you know that Nigeria is decades behind and keep on insisting me to ignore where average Africa stands against India.

You skipped most of African countries, all of black countries and bringing up far North African middle east's middle income countries for comparison (what if I drop entire India and start bringing richest Indian states).

You knew that Nigeria or Africa on average doesn't stand anywhere near India in education. So you brought average year of schooling as education index and compared it only within "South Asia".

Even in South Asia, do you think Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Nepalis get better education than Indians. Have you seen face of their landscape and economic activities? India's literacy rate is above 80%, adult literacy rate is 90%+, 95% school enrollment which is second in region and most of top colleges and universities. Seriously, South Asia doesn't mean anything itself, it's just Greater Indian region with an identity crisis. You actually claimed that India is underfunded, I straight refuted it citing annual budget of $750 billions and then you came up with "South Asian" ranking totally changing context.

Indians file 45k+ IPRs annually in WIPO and 3.9k alone in USPTO making it second most innovative developing country after China and at par with East Europe on per capita basis. Enough how much education Indian private sector was able to provide at cost of public ones. Seriously, education is necessary for growth. But it's neither primary and has stages. Economic diversification is actual driver of growth.

The circular logic goes on that a great military power status can only be achieved by a giant economy. But great powers use their hard power & capabilities to boost economy. Doesn't mean that journey starts from military. India isn't investing any less on education. The budget however is having slow increase and so is declining as percentage of GDP with economic growth.

All of India's space budget, defense budget, education, healthcare and so on are declining. Government is spending all of extra revenue on rail & road infrastructure only. India needs to spend $4.5 trillions on infrastructure to maintain growth which is primary focus.


You didn't know either that Indian government amended the method of calculation of unemployment. The reason of unemployment, the demand of type of employment, average wages and even the life of an unemployment person in India is totally different from Nigeria or Africa.

Similarly for health. Hunger index doesn't translate to starvation or extreme poverty in India but underweight. A third of Indians are vegetarian and take low protein diet by their choice. Indian life expectancy would have been 72-73 with protein & without air pollution.

Indian standards too are different. The point I raised which has been skipped purposely in last two post, India is completely different place from Africa is perfectly consistent. India is in a totally totally different league of countries, different from which countries are trolling India here. Especially Nigeria.

vaxx:
This is where the advantage of having initial large number of population comes into play. china Start producing things, at a profit, both for domestic use and what others want. china stop producing things, at a loss, that she and other countries do not want. And the money starts to come in, she save and invest it to the critical sector.

How ignorant!! Seriously, how should I educate you? Was Denmark's example I gave you not enough? Small countries don't need trillions of GDP to qualify as rich. They too will set up smaller industries and bring profit for themselves. This small amount is enough to enrich a proportionally small country.

A larger economy isn't necessary a richer one too. Shove this up in your fragile mind.

vaxx:
India can become a rich country quicker than a smaller country.

Vice versa is also true. Growth doesn't have anything to do with size.

vaxx:
Tax incentive only can boost her growth.

Not necessarily. If government doesn't get enough revenue to work, everything will stall. India isn't completey libertarian economy unlike USA & Western Europe. Government still runs most of things.

vaxx:
the government offer low taxes, it can even raised t revenues through a property tax on the expensive, multi-million dollar houses of the ultra-rich of India . In return the rich spend - boosting the local economy' and turning India quickly and faster to a rich country than Any smaller country.

Indian government has already increased taxes on super and ultra rich of India. Seems that you again read a billionaire sponsored news article while googling faultlines of India.
India's ultra rich don't take risks of investing into new industries. They have a unique habit of savings that most certainly doesn't contribute anything to growth. Indian industries don't conduct R& take scientific knowledge from Indian government for granted. That's why Indian government increased their taxes from 35% to 42%.

Earlier Indian government was generating increased taxes from public and MSMEs (Medium and Small Enterprises). This time they kept our taxes unchanged and went after those lazy fats.

As India. MSMEs & startups too are keen on investing critical techs what government wanted to make them. Like semiconductors & chip fabrication, advanced electronics, 5G research and aerospace sector.

vaxx:
This is not an excuse,

I'm not giving excuses, I'm reasoning. India will most certainly have a bit of indicators close to other lower middle income countries.

At the same time, Indian will continue to outperform them in many aspects for its exceptional efforts. In the end, trajectory of India's all development indicators is upward only. It has to be evaluated, what to do and when. Rest I've explained above.

vaxx:
A good environment and a world class secondary school system populated by foreign teachers can help attract the best talent from around the world. This is what UAE is doing and Singapore.

Do you have any idea how much per capita expenditure will be needed for it? Versus the real result it gives? India doesn't need to import teachers either. Nor it needs to go crazy after secondary education till 95% of population has primary education.

vaxx:
india can easily become a large manufacturer and easily own financial centre like new york or Shanghai.

Easily my foot. Making such big financial capitals need tonnes of investments in infrastructure throughout decades.

And why? Why the hell people will dump their reliable products to buy new Indian ones? Answer would be quality control and cutting down costs. As quality shouldn't be compromised, shipping costs will have to reduced. That's why India is so concerned about infrastructure and making freight corridors within and outside the country.

vaxx:
well in India the number of income tax payer are very less.

India's direct taxpayers are low in numbers however doubling in every 2-3 years. Almost entire Indian population pays indirect taxes.

vaxx:
bullshit as usual, Chinese GDP had once be the highest in the world. just use Google.

Bullsh!t logic as usual.
According to you, Africa won't overtake Asia in population because
"What are you saying? Asia had world's largest population historically".
And China wasn't ever poorer than Africa because
"bullshit as usual, Chinese GDP had once be the highest in the world. just use Google."


Fact: China dropped out of list of world's largest economies in second half of 19th century and didn't even make it into top 10 till 1990s.

At various instances, Chinese GDP per capita was even smaller than Indian ones (mostly remained close however). Besides Japan & Philippines, entire Asia was far far behind Africa.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Income-and-Urbanization-Asia-versus-Africa-1950-2010_fig1_267386204

Chinese & Indians have seen massive famines, dire poverty and much more brutal imperial suppression by foreign powers than Africans have ever seen or will ever see. We even got large parts of our populations wiped out.

vaxx:
You like guffing. Britain is not historically advantage like China and India. therefore there is no similarities here.

Just clearly, DEFINE THIS DAMNED IMAGINARY "HISTORICAL" ADVANTAGE YOU HAVE CONTINOUSLY BEEN BLABBERING ABOUT"

And then explain how it plays any role. If you can't then just shut up. If being large once was a factor, China & India wouldn't even have fallen to weakness.

vaxx:
even the age difference is a factor apart from their economy power.

I'm wondering why I'm wasting time here? No point arguing with an idiot like you.

vaxx:
Africa is africa. nothing like contemporary Africa here.

Contemporary Africa refers to black countries. REAL AND CORE AFRICA.
Unlike them, Seychelles and Mauritius themselves are Indian settlements while middle income countries of North Africa are middle eastern settlements.

It came as a response of your reluctance to compare Nigeria/Africa with India because they are far behind. You wish to skip the most of Africa and handpick a very few countries in proximity with meditarian, I just refuted with what those countries actually are.

vaxx:
is there anything like contemporary Asia?

Yeah, Asia often refers to Eastern civilization. When you got to account whole one, you have to include entire Abrahamic civilization (Europe with West Asia) that translates to Eurasia.

Contemporary Asia refers to
1. East Asia
2. Indian Subcontinent
3.IndoChina and India superior (Dragon's tale, both regions together called Southeast Asia).
These come first in mind whenever you talk of Asia.
These too are the ones constituting most population, area & GDP of Asia.

vaxx:
show me evidence China was once poorer than entire africa?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_past_and_projected_GDP_(nominal)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_past_and_projected_GDP_(PPP)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_past_and_projected_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_past_and_projected_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

vaxx:
And let me highlight many instances African nations has been rated better than india.

1. You can't do that without cherrypicking. Very few nations and very few indicators.
2. Even that instance will have multiple holes.
3. That instance will be short lived too given at rate India improves every year.

vaxx:
and to stop at this silly argument, Tunisia, Algeria and Egypt are all by far at miles than india

Agreed on GDP per capita & HDI only but by miles? My foot!

They don't have any damn industrial base compared to India and are mostly commodity based countries. Even here, India will surpass them even at its slowest pace at a time frame of 10-20 years.