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Abakelawal:
Upcoming parents pls teach ur children how to respect people's religion so dat dey won't have Same faith like mannerless Deborah

Stop the lies, she never disrespected any religion. She was killed for mentioning Jesus

Abakelawal:
Am a Muslim but hv never in my life insult Christianity... Infact my best friend is Christian and I due go to church if she invite me what is there.
But y do Christian like insulting Muslim? 2017 my agric teacher suppose teach us for like 1hr but he didn't he was busy insulting prophet Muhammad (SAW) just like dat without reason... Same thing happened in my nursing school one of our lectural was busy insulting our prophet just like that... I think dis Deborah's own will served as lesson we will do dis 1111111111 times.. Islam religion of peace

You guys will continue to bring more insults on your religion until you guys begin to act with civility. everybody don tire

lookingfly:
will all the killings stop the insult that's being heaped on your prophet, Allah and religion now as it stands. Since this incident, there has been more insults coming in. I think we're not animals that kill each other at the slightest provocation. Christians get provoked by you guys trying to claim you know the bible more than us or even claim the bible is a lie. You don't remember these read lines oooo when it's other people's religion but when it's yours you want to intimidate. Do to others what you want them to do to.

This is the greatest problem they have. They want others to be sensitive to them but they can never be sensitive to others.

Like I've said earlier they really goofed on this one this time around and they will pay dearly for it

9japride:
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Imagine allowing such fanatic to pilot a plane? So a passenger says something offence about he's religion, he can plunge the plane into the sea just to teach that passenger and anyone who supports such a lesson.

Na so dem stupid reach o, that is how 9/11 happened in America. Bloody thirsty terrorists

007Marvel:
Alright tell is what she said please. Have had people translate it for me and none ever made reference to her insulting your prophet! Perhaps this people are sentimental, I would be nice to hear from a core Northern! Would you mind translating what she said?

She never insulted any prophet, read the sultan statement. Her offence was mentioning name of Jesus. This was stupidity and intolerance at it's peak. The Muslims will surely pay for this mess this time around cos the girl was unjustifiably killed. Reason some of their clerics are coming out now to condemn it.

They got this one wrong this time around.

haslaw:
Why don't you come and say it to my face coward.

You guys are just blood thirsty and not fighting for any prophet as you claim.

It's called terrorism

This is the most lawless set of ministers ever.

Shame

haslaw:
You are liar and a bigot. That place you mischievously wrote etc was where she blasphemed.

In this modern world, there is nothing like blasphemy, those who are living today are more important than Prophets who have died centuries ago. The world is laughing at you people's stupidity

Herbephe1:
It's really pity that she was not conscious of her environment. She was given birth to in sokoto ,yet she didn't know them. She should have apologized and retracted her statement. Unfortunately she's not smart enough. She wasted her parents money on her. This is not the first time this kind of thing would be happening. It happened in kano nothing happened. Even the prophet muhammad left mekkah to medina in order to avoid being killed. I'm a muslim,and school in the north. With the little months I have spent there,I have known them alot. They are very aggressive, infact I don't argue with them when it comes to religion or political matter. Sometimes I stay indoors and pray (observing solat).
A friend of mine once told me that if tribal war were to break out,that he would be the first person to attack me, since then I got to know that, these people are something else. When you're in Rome behave like Romans. I'm not saying you should practice their religion or culture but do not condemn it. When you're among the blinds pretend to b blind too. Ire ooo

Apologized for saying Jesus made her pass her exam? You can't be serious. This is is just silly intolerance here

So she no even abuse any prophet after all.

This coincides what the sultan said that her offence was saying Jesus was the greatest which is not even 100% true as she just affirmed her faith by saying Jesus made her pass her exam.

This girl was unjustifiably killed. May her killers and all those in support never know peace

walebs147:
This one individual calls himself a pilot. In aviation school, you did sociology, right, in order to behave yourself in society and have moral scruples? That initial statement of yours presupposes that you are a terrorist and Nigerian plane passengers especially Christians passengers should henceforth stop boarding the planes the likes of you JAMIL ABUBARKA fly to avoid a repeat of 9/11 in the future. In April the CEO of Starling Bank likened the resurrection of Jesus to Agege bread. The Christian Association of Nigeria CAN only told him to recant his statement, or did anyone lynch him like Deborah? No. Had Christianity not been a religion of peace, the whole of Nigeria would have been plunged into crisis by now. Any religion that permits killing of innocent people is not of God but of the devil. Deborah Samuel you're no more but those who had hands in your death shall die more gruesomely than you. Adieu Deborah.

That is the reason for the rebuttal, his career is at stake now. Even his employers won't take him serious again as he's become a huge risk.

This is what happens when you don't think before making careless statements

logiccal:
Oga, she did insult HIM.

How is someone who is no longer living insulted?

He will soon deny this tweet

xpiranza88:
If this man can restructure the country when he wins am ok with that alone....not those that promised restructuring entered government and denied they ever said so

Somebody that cannot think before tweeting naim wan restructure, I laugh in calabar

EcomPlus:
Atiku is not man enough to take the kind of hard decisions needed to salvage this country from imploding & so not fit to be president.

Disowning that tweet is & will prove to be his greatest undoing.

PDP better be wise & dissociate itself from Atiku to stand any chance of dislodging APC in 2023.

The guy no think at all, even those who tweeted in support of the stupidity are now doing rebuttals.

If he had left that tweet, he would have scored good political points. Tambuwal is even smarter.

Magnoliaa:
Capt. Jamil, why you dey lie? Which out of context? Who you wan sue? Mtcheeeeeewwwww.

This one na damage control sha. You've posted what you posted and people already know. I hope it'll not negatively affect your profession.

The guy suddenly remembered he will travel this summer

No matter the rebuttals the whole world is now aware how dangerous they are.

Some of these dumb fellows are not thinking before they tweet. Looks like when someone remind them that a particular time they will need visas to some western countries or travel that they will be denied entry hence their rebuttals

Foolish people, Dem no get sense at all

All these men are women, Dem no get liver. No strong convictions

bjdon:
Iam 100% with you. There is no way she should have been killed as that is total lawlessness, but what she said was quite wrong and would have offended a lot of Muslims. We all need to show respect and sensitivity to other peoples religion and customs. Even in the developed world, for example UK, if you wore a shirt with the inscription ' Bleep the queen' and walked around Central London, it won't be long before you get a punch in the face!

You are a liar, no one will get arrested or even punched for abusing any queen, the world has left Nigeria behind in all those nonsense. Even the guy who slapped the french president was not touched at all. You guys should be ashamed in this century talking this nonsense. There are movements and associations calling for the abolishment of the British monarchy and they are still enjoying their lives

You guys are backwards. Period

LegendHero:
This thread is opened by a chronic Islamic fanatics and a potential terrorist.

So because she abused the prophet, we can then justify her murder by senseless people? Haba nao.

If the Ifa worshippers too now start killing people for blasphemy, do you know how many of people like you will die because every day we blaspheme against their gods too.

The Muslim fanatics put their religion above anything else. They are the ones pulling the nation backwards. I still remember the cleric who was abusing dangote for not building mosques in the north and building factories instead. We get problem no be small living with such humans

Stormtrooper11:
If we break up, it will result to instability in the African continent. I believe the country has to tame the North. I don't understand why the Southerners are scared of the North and always trying to please the North.

The south is actually stronger than the North but they don't know. They don't know how powerful they're. The North actually can be tamed and their power checked.

The Uk system of four countries operating as one country is the way to go. If one part want to practice Sharia let them be and let those who don't want to be under Sharia leave to another place with no Sharia.

I always pity those living in the north who are non Muslims, Dem they try o.

NNTR:

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Who your lots of cloud certifications epp?
I have no desire to know you.
I dont want to know a cup half empty somebody


_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

All through the banter I never threw any insult. Let's learn to choose words carefully when people don't agree with us. Those words of truculent or whatever and half empty were not necessary

NNTR:
Argument is about trading of ignorances, I dont do arguments, as I have no ignorance to exchange for other people's ignorances traded here.

It is a fact that people do get jobs with certification, as opposed to saying, flat out that certifications won't get anyone jobs. That is not just only an irresponsible remark to make but it's also not correct

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Our problem as Nigerians is that we want short cuts and we don't tell people the entire truth. Lots of people have spent thousands of pounds on certifications and got no where. That it happened to some few does validate that truth. Time had proven again and again especially it the IT sector that project experience and working with people over time to negotiate conflicts and requirements is a winner in the job market any day any time. There is a reason why its github profile that gets software developers jobs and not paper work. I only wanted people out there not to be carried away with all these successful stories of not getting experience and getting jobs. And most times there were other factors that some of these successful people don't say. There are also some transfered skills from one sector to another which can also be a factor. It's left for anyone to belive whatever they want but think of the resources people spent to come to the uk and still be struggling for years just because of one data proven factor that they ignore. Am done

NNTR:
Look at the above in yellow highlight, to see why I pointed to your truculent attitude

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

You can't pitch what you don't have. You gerrit? except you want to tell lies which is what many folks do

NNTR:
An example of green-eyed of a person who is jealous of the success others have enjoyed and/or are enjoying

Yeah know the truth that having certifications gives you half a chance of opening doors for interview selection
Didnt the so call folks get their way in easily without necessarily having field experience. Hmm?

You dont act nor come across as be from the tech community though
From whom did you read, say that just getting the certificate is enough? Hmm?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

I don't owe you explanations of my credentials but have got lots of cloud certifications. You don't know me neither do I

NNTR:
An example of green-eyed of a person who is jealous of the success others have enjoyed and/or are enjoying

Yeah know the truth that having certifications gives you half a chance of opening doors for interview selection
Didnt the so call folks get their way in easily without necessarily having field experience. Hmm?

You dont act nor come across as be from the tech community though
From whom did you read, say that just getting the certificate is enough? Hmm?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

So you are now down to half chance for interview selection lol. You Don dey talk true small small

hustla:
My house mate, with 0 experience in anything IT or DevOps got job in AWS DevOps on the back of an AWS SAA Cert he was advised to write and trainings he took on ACloud Guru and Udemy
Certs you a foot in the door, and you can then explain yourself and prove you have what it takes

His MSc was in Mechatronics so what will you say about this?

There's this babe on US Twitter who went from being a paralegal to obtaining an AWS SA Cert, ITIL and ServiceNow, she now earns north of $100K.

I will look for a link to her page and share it

EDITED

Her website
https://www.intechshetrust.com/about-me

Her twitter
https://twitter.com/princessxap

Many people joined her evangelism, got certs, got foots in the door and are earning large

Congratulations to them, na this kind advert dey deceive people and they are still where they are. Even you yourself know the truth. Like I said before folks can believe whatever they want. Cloud technology some years back was still relatively new and folks could get their way in easily but nowadays with everyone brandishing certificates everywhere how many are truly getting their way in now. Am also in a tech community of cloud folks and suddenly folks started advising themselves to stop using past questions to prepare for cert exam but rather get hands on to even sit for exams. Folks are beginning to know that just getting the certificate is not enough. You guys can keep advertising and let people decide whatever way they want. The results will always there as a justification later. Let's look at the data and prove so if many folks are really getting jobs just with certs

NNTR:
Thanks for the humble and honest admittance that certificates opens the door.

Experiences comes in varied shades and forms, which you might articulate you obtained from going on a training course, hands-on knowledge, volunteering with steering committee project(s) at church et cetera

You must sell this training course sha by force by fire

hustla:
What the people arguing above don't realize is that they're all right and the argument in itself is a pointless one

The guy is not right. Certificates don't get jobs

Viruses:
Bros calm down.
The argument is that you won't get automatic employment by presenting your certificate. The certificate can put you at an advantaged position but you will still need to pass interview to get the job.

If you have certificate and someone without certificate performs better than you at interview, they will take the person and leave you with your certificate true or false?

The guy knows what he's doing. They are the ones confusing people so folks can patronise them for training. Na business things, na the people wey go fall for their scheme I just pity. I was almost a victim until a friend opened my eyes

NNTR:
You're so far wrapped up, you dont realise the goof you made, which is, you saying, certifications dont get anyone jobs, its only experience that does. Smh

Professional certification(s) are often stated as prerequisite

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Get that straight, certifications can't get people jobs, they will have to lie in interviews to claim they have experience when they don't. And God help them if its a contract role, they can't last more than a month or 2 because they will be found out and booted out of the Job. Don't deceive people here. Naija has done so much damage to us thinking its about reading to pass, reason folks struggle in the uk. I pity those following your advice

NNTR:
Listen, quite a lot of the Naiyja community do the fast track course with Dr at his training centre at Holborn, and get jobs pretty much soon after. I wear many hats. Have certifications in varied fields, so I am not sharing what I know, coming only from an IT perspective

I dont suffer gladly posters that dont like to own up in goofing. Certification will get you work, if you know what to do, how to do things. Period.

PRINCE2, ITIL, ISEB, BCS et cetera enhances your chance of getting picked for interview selection

You got your position either through in house promotion or vacancy created by exit of ex employee(s)

Having being certified by a professional body, is evidence of you being able to do the job, its then up to you to articulate all you know all you've learned to the interviewing panel

Even going through an Agile scrum training, is enough grounds to use when going about explaining what hands on training you have

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

You are very wrong. Certification is no proof you can do any job. Stop misleading people here. I know your type, you are the kind of people misleading people by selling all sorts of fast track courses and lying to them that they will get job in weeks after getting certified or doing a course. All na wash jare. Interviewers and recruiters in the uk are now aware of such gimmick.

Anybody following your advice will have himself to blame. Shior.