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femi4:That's plane English na.. See message translation When the Feast of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. Without warning there was a sound like a strong wind, gale force—no one could tell where it came from. It filled the whole building. Then, like a wildfire, the Holy Spirit spread through their ranks, and they started speaking in a number of different languages as the Spirit prompted them. Were they praying to received power ? |
An0nimus:I know buddy, I know. If one is ignorant of or doesn't pray and stir this power in him.How's that possible? How did he stir up that power without praying? Meanwhile, you cannot use what you're ignorant of. Isn't he considered powerless before the enemy?If you're born again today, and received the Holy Spirit, you are endowed with incredible powers as mighty as Jesus is, however, if you don't know you have this, how do you then use it? The fact that you don't know about the law of gravity does not mean it does not exist, but when you do, you'd know how to use it to your advantage. If you know you have power by God's Spirit and don't know how to get it working, does that make you powerless? But when you know... Guess what? You immediately put it to use.. Paul thought so too.. Gal 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world |
MuttleyLaff:He looks cultic here, no? ![]()
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MuttleyLaff:Mail pastor Chris then comments@pastorchrislive.org Thanks |
kay1one2:Maybe you skipped this line in the OP Jesus refers to power in our opening verse. [size=18pt]You received it when the Holy Spirit came into your life; you didn't get it through the effect of prayer. [/size]On the other hand, 'exousia' or authority means delegated power. The effect and the efficacy of authority depends on the power that's behind it.As for the praying and fasting thing to cast out a demon or do the miraculous, it's not that prayer gave you the power, it only stirred it up. 2Ti 1:6 Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands You can't have power without the Holy Spirit.
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Ishilove:Did the apostles pray before they received power? If yes, show proof. Put Acts 1:8 in perspective Thanks. |
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth (Acts 1:8 ). Some people say, "A prayer-less Christian is a powerless Christian". But power doesn't come by prayer. In the New Testament, the word "power" is frequently translated from two words, namely: "dunamis" which is the dynamic ability to cause changes and "exousia" which is authority. Jesus refers to power in our opening verse. You received it when the Holy Spirit came into your life; you didn't get it through the effect of prayer. On the other hand, 'exousia' or authority means delegated power. The effect and the efficacy of authority depends on the power that's behind it. We've been given authority in Christ Jesus to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power (ability) of the enemy (Luke 10:19). The "power" that's behind our authority is the power of the Almighty God. This, again, didn't come by or through prayer; it was bequeathed to us in Christ as our heritage. In Matthew 28:18, Jesus said, "...All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth". That word, "power" again is translated from the Greek word "exousia", authority. In the next verse He said, "Go ye therefore...." He delegated His authority to us immediately. Halleluiah! It's important for us to know what we have in Christ Jesus; we have authority in His Name! We have power to effect changes and live the supernatural life every day. I would to God that Christians would know this! What impact and changes we'll make in this world! You're fully equipped with divine power to preach the Gospel and change the world! That power is in you through the Holy Spirit. |
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But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me... (Acts 1:8 ). Due to the limitations of language, many have found it difficult to understand who the "Spirit of God" is. The phrase "the Spirit of God" has a totally different connotation from the phrase a "man of God!" The latter means a man who works, talks and does things for God; a man sent by God. When we say the "Spirit of God", we don't mean a Spirit that is from God, sent by God and does things for God; no, that's not the description. The Holy Spirit is God. The Father never leaves His throne; He's always on His throne. When the Father does anything outside His throne, He does it through His Spirit who proceeds from Him. So, the Holy Spirit isn't another Spirit that God delegates to do something; the Holy Spirit is God Himself. When we talk about your spirit, for example, your spirit isn't another spirit that serves you. Your spirit is you, the real you! Now imagine this: Acts 1:8 says, "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you...." So, we received that Holy Spirit who Himself is God, to live in us. If we take that lightly, our lives will be ordinary. However, when you understand the power and import of having the Spirit of God live in you, you'll live supernaturally every day. The Holy Spirit is the third person of the Godhead, not because He's number three, but because He's the third to be revealed to the Church. But the manifestation of the Holy Spirit came first; He's the first to actually be revealed in the Word of God, but He wasn't understood. Genesis 1 reveals the Spirit to us when the earth was a chaotic mass: "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters" (Genesis 1:2). So, the Holy Spirit is first revealed to us. In verse 1, the Hebrew word for God is "Elohim" - a plural word for God. So, you see, the Holy Spirit made the world, and created all things. |
kaen1317:Get any kind of proof for your above lies, even if it's from rumours bloggers, and then I'd give you $1,000. If you can't, shame on you forever. |
The Holy Spirit Is God - Sunday, April 26th . Pastor Chris But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me... (Acts 1:8 ). Due to the limitations of language, many have found it difficult to understand who the "Spirit of God" is. The phrase "the Spirit of God" has a totally different connotation from the phrase a "man of God!" The latter means a man who works, talks and does things for God; a man sent by God. When we say the "Spirit of God", we don't mean a Spirit that is from God, sent by God and does things for God; no, that's not the description. The Holy Spirit is God. The Father never leaves His throne; He's always on His throne. When the Father does anything outside His throne, He does it through His Spirit who proceeds from Him. So, the Holy Spirit isn't another Spirit that God delegates to do something; the Holy Spirit is God Himself. When we talk about your spirit, for example, your spirit isn't another spirit that serves you. Your spirit is you, the real you! Now imagine this: Acts 1:8 says, "But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you...." So, we received that Holy Spirit who Himself is God, to live in us. If we take that lightly, our lives will be ordinary. However, when you understand the power and import of having the Spirit of God live in you, you'll live supernaturally every day. The Holy Spirit is the third person of the Godhead, not because He's number three, but because He's the third to be revealed to the Church. But the manifestation of the Holy Spirit came first; He's the first to actually be revealed in the Word of God, but He wasn't understood. Genesis 1 reveals the Spirit to us when the earth was a chaotic mass: "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters" (Genesis 1:2). So, the Holy Spirit is first revealed to us. In verse 1, the Hebrew word for God is "Elohim" - a plural word for God. So, you see, the Holy Spirit made the world, and created all things. Confession... Dear Father, thank you for your precious Holy Spirit whom you've given to me to help me chart my course victoriously and excellently in life. The glory, beauty, aura and perfections of your Spirit are manifested, and displayed in and through me, to the world, in Jesus' Name. Amen. Further Study: John 14:16-17 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. ; 1 Corinthians 2:10-11 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Daily Scripture Reading 1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 22:1-38, 1 Samuel 26-28 2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Mark 5:21-34, Leviticus 26 |
How old are both of you? ![]()
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MuttleyLaff:Everything he does is sure an issue. WX, add this to list of cultists activities ![]() |
trustman:Hey... What pastor was referring to was simply,..... Darn! Read the last paragraph again... This time slowly. By the way, I'm watching the Loveworld Festival of Music and Arts carnival (Day 2) happening live in SA. See my mentor flexing, mehn...watch out for the impact of this program. Many shall come to the knowledge of Christ through music and arts. I'd soon share some videos.
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^^ Although you have a new moniker, it still doesn't mean you have a new mind or thinking ability different from the old. Stop twisting Hagin's words and quoting outta text to suit your cause. Seems you all need a mind refresher... Well, here we go. https://www.nairaland.com/1957135/midas-touch-balanced-approach-biblical It was a well discussed thread on the book (a feat Winsomex can't seem to do about any book he brings up)... A staggering 102page thread. A thread worthy of front page... And it sure did. Now, kindly go through it(I like to assume you had not have this discourse , as you now have a new moniker)... Locate the quotes you took above, read the whole text or page... Hagin, is and was a well bred teacher,(oh! I remember on that thread, nlmediator whopping WX on this issue) who checked the excesses of giving and it's teaching... In fact, let me water your dry mind a bit Throughout the history of the Church, there have been extreme applications of almost every basic truth or doctrine, including issues such as baptism, resurrection, the Trinity, ministry gifts, divine healing, and the walk of faith. The topic of money and prosperity is no exception. [size=16pt]There are those in the ditch on one side of the road who teach that Jesus lived in abject poverty, that money is evil, and that biblical prosperity has nothing at all to do with material things. And in the other ditch, there are people who are preaching that getting rich is the main focus of faith, that God's main concern is your material well- being, and that money is the true measure of spirituality. [/size]https://www.nairaland.com/1957135/midas-touch-balanced-approach-biblical#27284303 |
MuttleyLaff:Yeah... Right! https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/absurd.gif You must think I'm trustman |
Life Without Limits · Saturday, April 25th Pastor Chris Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life (2 Corinthian 3:5-6). The society can place limits on us; our family background can place limits on us; the nation where we live, our education, our job description, our business, our finances can place limits on us. Anything could place a limit on you. But our opening verse shows that there’s a life without limits. Someone might think, "Does such a life really exist?" Well, if you don’t know about such a glorious life, you’ll never live it. If you’ve never had it, why would you think there’s none? After all, there was a time it seemed impossible to fly an airplane, and many thought the speed was too much, and no one would survive in it. There’re many things that people thought were impossible many years ago that have become commonplace today. There’s a life without limits. And that’s the life that Jesus brought to the world. Notice again what the opening verse says: "Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God." The Greek word translated "sufficient" is "hikanotes." It actually means competence. Our competence or our ability to perform, is of God. This indicates an exchange here: God has given us His ability, or His own competence, such that when we function, we don’t have to function with human ability, but with God’s ability, which is limitless. What you have to then understand as a child of God is how to function beyond your human ability. Colossians 1:27 says "…Christ in you, the hope of glory." Now that you’re born again, you’re not an ordinary person. 2 Corinthians 5:17 says "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." Thus, old limitations, troubles, pains etc., are passed away, and all things are now new. You’ve been ushered into a life of limitless possibilities, unending victories, and eternal glory! Blessed be God! Prayer... Dear Father, I thank you for giving me of your own competence, such that I don’t rely on my human abilities, but your ability. Therefore, I can do all things through Christ who empowers and strengthens me for the supernatural life, in Jesus’ Name. Amen. further study: 2 Corinthians 4:7; But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. Colossians 1:29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily. 1 years Bible Reading Plan: 1 Samuel 23-25 Luke 21:5-38 2 year Bible Reading Plan: Mark 5:14-20 Leviticus 25 |
soye3:Don't mind him. It's well |
A little devotion with the lads ain't a bad idea now, is it? ![]() Kunle, I spot you joor...join us biko ![]() Life Without Limits · Saturday, April 25thBe right back. |
vooks:Eyaaaa... CE vocabulary [img]http://.net/i/759.gif[/img] Quit whining and crying over nothing But... Pastor Chris they said we copy everything from does not use the word orgasmic? Wow If he doesn't use it, how then is it a CE vocabulary? ![]() Get serious son! It's Saturday, go do something creative. Or, ruminate on the pic below, we might have a breakthrough ![]()
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WinsomeX:I knew they were deliberate, but you bidded some of us goodbye, in the illusion of you not being here to debate, but to warn folks. Glad you see clearly now, you and vooks almost turned this thread to whatsapp chat between two friends. Well, I'm here now. Thanks for the IV. Also, when you try to decipher people's intentions, endeavor to approximate to things they may have said. My intention for this thread is clearly written in the introduction and others posts.For the latter part of your post, me thinks you've deviated not once or twice or thrice. You've left the original book, quoted some other totally different things, but you have a way of bringing it all to Occultism. Now, it's the faith movement that's Occultic and no longer CE. ![]() The book is a well researched work that actually does not criticize the faith movement. Rather it traces their root. What a careful discerner will discover is that the faith movement finds its root in occultism and not the bible. Which is the trust of this thread. And which is my trouble with Hagin doctrines. Certainly not tithing.Hagin has no doctrine, what he preached are well furnished in the good book (vooks will call this CE vocabulary). You are yet to disprove any... Not even speaking in tongues, a topic sportsman gave you a refresher course on. I'll be watching |
vooks:Really? CE vocabulary? Are you this crude? Son! You are getting too old for frivolity. ![]() Check out sense 2, and what if I meant sense 1? You've constantly said I ignored issues and go the other way, but see how hypocritical you are... Of all I wrote, orgasmic caught your attention. Then what, you made an issue outta it "CE Vocabulary". Well, you both can now discuss it at length as occultism term, used in CE, I'd not be surprised. ![]()
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Folks be mentioning my name, y'all have my attention now. ![]() Winsomex my broda,I didn't bother downloading the book, but if it has Midas Touch in it, then it just got juicier. WX called Hagin a failure because of the book, and I hope this new book he's orgasmic about will make him eat a humble pie. Actually, to WX, Hagin would have been a star if not for his endorsement of tithing, and other teachings about giving. |
DeCleff:Go get a bible son! ![]() Satan stole rulership of the world from Adam, thank God for Jesus Sha... Whosoever believes in Him is no longer of this world. OOO is misleading a lot folks, but I'd pray for them. Meanwhile, can you explain what Jesus meant here? John 14:30 New Living Translation "I don't have much more time to talk to you, because the ruler of this world approaches. He has no power over me, |
![]() Only one name was given under heaven by which man can be saved. Was Olumba Olumba a part of the process? Lest I forget, the one who rules this world is Satan, not Olumba Olumba's son, except of course, they are working together. |
I'm not sure what you mean by 'cure'.. But Jesus has fixed the issue of sin. God has no problem with it anymore. The problem of sin is between you, the devil and your conscience. In other words, when you sin, you're on your own (prone to be attacked by the devil) , except you ask for forgiveness. But Paul asked whether we should continue in sin because Grace abound? God forbid he said. In all, nice write you have up there. ![]() |
You're having a misleading topic. Mind editing? FYI, it is not the Spirit of God, for He can't tell you your purpose here and go there and show you another 'distraction'. He's not the author of confusion. |
Luck is an event happening by chance. Your life is not by chance. Blessing is a result of grace. It is invoke on a person by another, or by the same person. Blessings are not by chance. It's a process. Miracle is the superimposition of natural events by a supernatural force. It is not explainable to/by natural laws Each of these three are very different from the other. |
The Kingdom In You! - Friday, April 24th . Pastor Chris And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you (Luke 17:20-21). The Lord Jesus makes it clear that the Kingdom of God is within you. What an extraordinary communication of spiritual truth! This doesn't mean the Kingdom is inside your body. It also doesn't mean it's in your imagination. First, notice He wasn't talking about the "Kingdom of heaven", which has to do with the work that He came to start here in the earth. Rather, He said, "the Kingdom of God is within you". The Kingdom of God is all of that sphere that is under the influence of God Almighty in heaven and in earth. That Kingdom is where God resides. That's big! Try to imagine how big God is; all the heavens and the earth are inside Him. He surrounds everything, and His presence is everywhere. If Jesus then says, "the kingdom of God is within you", He means you have the capacity to contain God Almighty. Not only is God in you, you also have His nature to contain everything: "He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men..." (Ecclesiastes 3:11 NIV). Is there anything you need to improve in your life? Look inwards, for the Kingdom of God is in you. Eternity has been set in your heart (Ecclesiastes 3:11), meaning there's no limit to the extent and reach of your abilities, and what you can possess with your spirit. Thank God for the privilege and power of prayer. Through prayer, we can transport ourselves to divine realms of glory, far beyond the reach of human minds and abilities, and live the Kingdom-life on earth. Glory to God! Confession... I carry within me God's divine presence to influence and affect my world, establishing the peace, righteousness, love, joy, health and prosperity of the kingdom, and revealing the victorious life in Christ. Halleluiah! Further Study: Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. ; John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? ; 2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. Daily Scripture Reading 1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 20:20-21:4, 1 Samuel 20-22 2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Mark 5:1-13, Leviticus 24 |
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Eliminate Fear! - Thursday, April 23rd . Pastor Chris Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you (Luke 10:19). There's no reason for you to be afraid of the devil, because Jesus defeated and paralyzed him, and gave you the victory. So, you've triumphed over Satan already; never be afraid of him! Jesus has the keys of hell and of death, which means you don't even have to be afraid of death. Death has also been defeated; it's last enemy that shall be destroyed (1 Corinthians 15:26). So, why would you accommodate fear? Jesus said, "...the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me" (John 14:30). This was the testimony of the Son of God. This should be your testimony as well. Every now and then, you should declare: "Satan has nothing in me! He doesn't have his doubts in me! He doesn't have his fears in me!" Thoughts of fear will cripple your faith, and stop the power of God from flowing in your direction. So, when negative thoughts - thoughts of fear, defeat and frustration - come to you, eliminate them speedily. Fear is a tormenting spirit that creates the perfect environment for Satan to intimidate and dominate people's lives. However, the Holy Spirit in you helps you deal with fear; He's the One that invigorates you with miracle-working ability in your inner man. He emboldens and strengthens you on the inside, dispelling fear of every kind. Perhaps, you've been having fears in your life - fear of terror, fear that something terrible might happen to you, stop the fear! The Bible says, "He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler (Psalm 91:4). Wow! This is the Lord talking here, assuring you that there's nothing to fear, because He's with you always (Hebrews 13:5). Whether in the nighttime or daytime, He protects you and takes care of you. Therefore, rid your heart of fear! Confession... The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? He's the strength of my life; therefore, I'm bold and courageous at all times! In the time of trouble, I'm shielded in His pavilion; I dwell under His mighty arm of protection! He's my refuge and my fortress, and I triumph gloriously in His Name. Halleluiah. Further Study: Proverbs 29:25 The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the Lord shall be safe. ; Isaiah 41:10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness. ; 2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. Daily Scripture Reading 1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 20:1-19, 1 Samuel 18-19 2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Mark 4:30-41, Leviticus 23 |
Dear lord! Very Barbaric act.. Meanwhile..the moral of this story is summarized below
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