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vooks:
[s]Last Wednesday I referred a buddy of mine this strange Oyaks exhortation to prayerlessness. He is a long time ardent fan or Oyaks, always ceaselessly sharing how 'powerful' and 'wise' he is. The divorce saga somewhat slowed his adoration but he was still praising him.

Oyaks point as readily regurgitated by Gombs on another thread here is simple; believers have power of God they received at the baptism of the Spirit and prayers don't add nothing to it. A prayerless Christian and a prayerful one have the same power. I aksd my friend just as I aksd Gombs what the essence of prayer is in that case. Gombs as expected played dumb, ignored it. My friend on the other hand went on a day long soul searching trying to make sense of the piece. So we met yesterday and he told me he is convinced that's a doctrine of Devils; teaching prayerlessness. That's what Oyaks did in an attempt to debunk an old cliche 'a prayerless Christian a powerless christian'. Funny enough, he contradicts his own teachings on James 5:16

If only CEC sheeple thought through the garbage they are routinely served some would open their eyes like my friend. Of course pride comes into play. You just don't believe you can be wrong after all these years. Then you have numbers, the thousands of tongue speakers all around you. How can they all be wrong? You seek refuge in numbers.[/s]

It's obvious you're trying to outdo the devil in lying. Pastor Chris never taught a Christian should not pray, in fact he's written nooks on prayer, tapes on the power of prayer and I can gladly mail you some.

Pastors Chris taught that you didn't get power because you prayed, the Holy Spirit that you received brought in the power. Prayer stirs up that power. It's like have fuel in your generator...if you don't power on the generator, you won't have power to light your house or electronics.

Prayer in this line is the act of powering on the generator, (stiring up the power in us by the Spirit of God), when we pray, we make power available. You don't pray "o Lord, I need power over situations and circumstances"

Stop making up stories to suit your failed cause. It's unhealthy and belittling. Check out other ROR where he taught about prayer... Now you're saying he's teaching prayerlessness.

https://www.nairaland.com/393253/rhapsody-realities-daily-devotional/16#12382863

https://www.nairaland.com/393253/rhapsody-realities-daily-devotional/16#12413300

https://www.nairaland.com/393253/rhapsody-realities-daily-devotional/2#5647646

https://www.nairaland.com/393253/rhapsody-realities-daily-devotional/16#12462066

How many more do you want? Note, those links up there were not for you to check... But for readers who you subtly try to mislead. This is the same man who organizes prayer times and points for his brethren every Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays for over 2 years.

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Just to let you know that some of us have close contacts with CE members so please when responding to these things don't do as if you're writing to novices on your activities.

You never stop your deceptive stratagem. I fear for you. You know nothing about CE except old wives tales and WX's threads. Don't even try going judicial with me.

Clearly hero- worship of pastors thrives in CE. Members are therefore PRESSURED to give toward their birthdays.

Oh well... Winsomex, this is another pointer for why CE is a cult.

Is giving towards your Pastors' birthdays not usually driven as a group thing? Because many of these things are unwritten should not make you defend your sect unreasonably.

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vooks:
Winsomex,
There is an old thread here on ROR. The question was whether the publication is fraudulent. And as usual, Joagbaje attempted a lame defense of it.
https://www.nairaland.com/860680/rhapsody-realities-really-scam

I ran into a lady who supplied me with the devotional and she was disillusioned.
Like MLMs the ones committing to distributing the most and the ones who actually did were feted. The lady ended up with dozens of the diols she had bought but could not find anybody too give. That surprised me because we have always bought them from her. Said that like Jehovah witnesses,they are supposed to 'distribute' and if possible sell them. Her terms were quite flexible, you could even pay after 3 months. The cash is remitted back to the church. Members contribute towards publishing. Then they buy the devotionals. And finally SOME consumers buy them

Anyway, the church budget shot through the roof and they were called upon to 'commit'. The figures were astronomical and the congregation revolted. Then the pastor had a birthday. And like Oyaks, they were pushed to PAY him for growing old. she could not handle it anymore, she left.

All cults add works to grace as salvation formula. SDAs have so much elevated the sabbath that breaking it is the mark of the Beast. The added works are used to subdue members, to control them. You are always in danger for breaching these, in danger of hellfire. CEC is one place 'giving' is idolized. No wonder Jeff told SirJohn he caught a virus because of failure to offer first fruits. Sadly, unlike other sects which go out of their way to document their doctrines, you won't run into any literature on the subject. These are basically unwritten rules but are firmly in place.

As you research, consider how much of doctrine and mandatory practices are seldom documented nowhere

Cc deborah777

I was about asking when you guys would attack the ROR. Turns out I wasn't thinking too much. Nice one.

Well, your statement here is your words against any others, and one person's experience cannot and should not be a yardstick to generalize.

ROR is encouraged to be bought by brethren and distribute for free to those in their sphere of contact. It is however not compulsory.

It's been selling for N150 for over 10 years even though with world class printing. When brethren pay for these materials, the monies go to different channels to keep the work going. For example, staff would have to be paid, how about the printers and print materials? What about translators, most of which do these voluntarily, but however, a stipend is given in appreciation? How about cost of delivery to point of 'consumption'? Flight or haulage cost across the world? What about custom duties? Etc.

You cannot just sit somewhere and assume frivolous things all in a bid to call a dog a bad name so that you can hang it.

The congregation revolted? Too much nollywood is telling on you buddy!

As for 'commitment', the other day, folks gave largely alot gave commitment when I visited Joagbaje's church. They 'adopted' the nation of Sudan for a while now, and send ROR and Bibles to the folks there... To be distributed for free... Some folks here paid for it, to be given free to change lives in Sudan that has less than 2%Christians. That's what we do with our monies... Stop being on the negative always

Nobody forces anybody to Celebrate their pastor, most do it lavishly out of love... I do that too, alot. In CE, we do not idolize giving, it is our life, as you can see in our anthem (I'm surprised the anthem hasn't be labeled cultic ie cults have anthems bla bla)... All we know is a life of giving...

WinsomeX:
^^^

Precisely. I hope Gombs is reading.

I sure am.

And I'm surprised he has suddenly stopped following the Facebook discussion. Or the statistics have discouraged him?

Yup.. Nothing serious was going on there. It is another failed thread.

Pls, vooks, keep an eye on that lady. She can lapse into atheism. Show her a thread like this and explain to her that God has just saved her from a cult.

Vooks to the rescue.

Don't Let Anger Rule You - Monday, May 4th .

Pastor Chris

Then Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah came near, and smote Micaiah upon the cheek, and said, Which way went the Spirit of the Lord from me to speak unto thee? (2 Chronicles 18:23).

Ahab, the king of Israel, wanted to go to war to reclaim Ramothgilead, a land he believed was rightfully his; and he invited his friend, Jehoshaphat the king of Judah, to go with him, Jehoshaphat agreed but requested Ahab to call the prophets in the land to know what God thought about the decision. Ahab called the prophets, including Zedekiah. The Bible says, "...and all the prophets prophesied before them. And Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah had made him horns of iron, and said, Thus saith the Lord, With these thou shalt push Syria until they be consumed" (2 Chronicles 18:9-10).

In spite of this unanimous prophecy, Jehoshaphat still wanted some more confirmation. It was at this point that Ahab sent for Micaiah. But amazingly, the prophecy of Micaiah was different from that of Zedekiah. After Zedekiah had said to Ahab, "Go, the Lord is with you", Micaiah said, "God isn't with you on this mission". So, who was "lying" here?

The Bible shows whose prophecy couldn't have been from the Lord. Their response and disposition lets us know who was been moved by the Spirit of God, and who wasn't. Zedekiah, in anger, struck Micaiah in the face for daring to give a word that contradicted what he had prophesied. Evidently, Zedekiah's behaviour was contrary to the Spirit of God.

Look at Jesus! The only time He responded to anybody in anger was when worshippers abused His Father's house; and it was holy anger. He had a strong zeal for His Father's house: "For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up..." (Psalm 69:9a). He never responded in anger to what anyone did against Him. No matter what was said to Him or about Him, He never responded in anger.

Don't let anger rule you; be yielded to God's Spirit. Always, maintain the right attitude that's befitting to your nature as the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus, regardless of how pressured you might be to act otherwise.

Prayer. ..
Father, I thank you for the wisdom I've received from your Word. I subject my words, actions, and attitude to your Word. In my relationship with others, I'm propelled by your Word to respond in your love, which is shed abroad in my heart by the Holy Spirit, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Proverbs 25:28 MSG
A person without self-control is like a house with its doors and windows knocked out. ;

James 1:20 GNB
Human anger does not achieve God's righteous purpose.

Daily Scripture Reading

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: John 1:19-51, 2 Samuel 18-19

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Mark 7:24-37, Numbers 7

Winsomex
PastorKun
Trustman
Deborah777
MuttleyLaff


See CE Bayelsa in the news o... Joagbaje's church showing love and giving generously.

Depict Him With Your Life - Sunday, May 3rd . 

Pastor Chris 

Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world (1 John 4:17). 

It matters whose character is reflected in your life. When you talk, whom do you portray? Let Christ be heard in your words, and let Him be seen in your actions. Don't let people hear you and have the impression that you're wild, arrogant or violent. If Christ is in you, let Him talk through you; let Him see through your eyes and work with your hands; let Him show up in your life! 

Every time you respond to situations, let it be Christ in you responding. Remember, He lives in you; you're a "carrier" of His divine glory. You're the reflector, as well as the reflection, of His glory. That's what the Word means by "...being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person..." (Hebrews 1:3). You might say, "But that verse refers to Jesus!" Yes; but you're like Him. Read the opening verse again: as He is, so are we in this world. 

Don't act in the flesh; express the beauty of God's holiness that's inside you. Express His righteousness. Live His Word; portray Christ with your life, because you represent Him. Think, talk, and act like Him. Meditate on His Word; His Word shows you His way of thinking; His Word reveals His personality to us. So, the more you study the Word and act on it, the more you characterize Him with your life. 

The world may never know Him until they meet us. Never forget that. We were made in God's image and His likeness. That means we were made to look like Him and to function like Him. Now that you're born again, you're exactly like Jesus. You have the same nature with Him. This is a spiritual reality. So, in everything, let His divine nature and attributes be revealed through you. Portray His character of love, righteousness, goodness, and compassion with your life! 

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for the privilege of being made an associate of the God-kind! I'm empowered by your Spirit to daily reveal Christ with my life, manifesting His righteousness, and the glories of the Kingdom! Thank you for the manifestation of your righteousness, wisdom, and grace, in and through me, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study:
1 John 2:6
He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. ;

1 Peter 2:21
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

Daily Scripture Reading 

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: John 1:1-18, 2 Samuel 15-17

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Mark 7:14-23, Numbers 6

Be Sensitive To The Time Of Change - Saturday, May 2nd . 

Pastor Chris 

Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard... (Daniel 10:12). 

Sometimes, you just know in your spirit that something needs to change in your life, and if you don't take advantage of that intuition, you could lose the moment. When you know inside you that the time has come for a change or for something to happen, don't take it lightly; start praying about it, and if, after sometime, you still haven't seen the desired results, you add fasting to it. If the change still doesn't occur after a while, keep praying and fasting about it, because the delay could be by Satan. 

This was what happened to Daniel as he prayed for the deliverance of God's people. He had read in the Book of Jeremiah that the deliverance of Israel would come after seventy years in exile, so he knew the time had come and thus began to pray. But the prince of the kingdom of Persia detained the angel that was to bring Daniel the message. Daniel, nonetheless, was faithful and kept praying. 

After twenty-one days, the angel of the Lord finally came with the answer and explained what had happened (Read Daniel 10:13-14). The angel that God sent to Daniel was delayed in the spirit realm, until Michael, one of the chief angels, came to help him. 

Perhaps you perceive that it's time for a transformation in your family, business, academics, finances, health, or ministry. Take it up; fast, and pray! On the other hand, maybe you sense that there's a certain level of operation of God's Spirit that should be at work in your life, but you're not experiencing it; give it attention. Fast and pray about it, because if you don't, you may lose the timing, as well as the opportunity. So, like Daniel, set your face "...to the Lord God to seek Him by prayer and supplications, with fasting..." (Daniel 9:3-4 AMP). 

Prayer...
Precious Father, I thank you for the impact of your Word in my life, and for the power of your Spirit! I'm sensitive to the guidance and promptings of your Spirit, and I'm conscious of the force of your wisdom within me, to live in sync with your perfect will. Thank you for making my life glorious, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Romans 12:12
Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer; ; 

Exodus 3:19
And I am sure that the king of Egypt will not let you go, no, not by a mighty hand.

Daily Scripture Reading 

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 24:36-53, 2 Samuel 12-14

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Mark 7:1-13, Numbers 5

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Well in ce there seems to be hidden teachings taught by the mog ps Chris. One guy crossman9 i think listed most of it.

Crossman 9? Haaahhahahahahahahahahahahhaha... He's still learning compared to what others have alleged Pastor Chris taught. A good example is Winsomex aka drummaboy. Olaadegu too... In fact a lot had insinuated one thing or the other. But ask, how far has these guys gone? What have they done with the gospel?

What i remember from it there is something about obeying, that isaac is not abraham promised son, thst there is no mediation in NT and then this masburation topic that borders me most......there was more but i do not remember all.

Isn't it funny how these allegations sound? These were mere allegations by those who have never heard pastor Chris preach. But down the line, Pastor Chris kept going up... And they, down.

In ce faith ststement everything is fine but in hidden there is lot of strange teachings or redefinements like winsomeX says.

Winsomex has said alot

1. He said Jesus was poor
2. Jesus was at a time ill
3.Christianity started at the cross, and not the resurrection.
4. Speaking in tongues of today is gibberish
5. There's no such thing as the God kind of faith
6. Jesus did not decend to hell
Etc

Take him seriously as a case study, but not what he writes.

^^
It's not Gombs, and you need not answer his Greek mumbo jumbo

deborah777:
I went to CE in nov 2013 to check it out what it is without planning to become member and then later they offered thst if someone wants to translate ror and i decided to try it. and then when i went to Bremen to check out Ps Stanley I had learned that my boyfriend is engaged with someone else. I was shocked as it had been long term friendship. So later i founded a team so that one translates and other reads thru before sending away final version.
As here in my country have fans of ror in all around country so every month it goes out and also ror goes into prison too here. and yes it is exciting to listen when i hear stories from countryside ppl how ror had gone hand by hand. But still it is beginning to getting too much.

Wow...a nice story you've got here. I am inspired. However, i cannot understand the last part of your sentence....mind explaining?How much is too much? My story is still coming up....what language do you want to translate to...i am so interested in this

He'll Reward Your Faithfulness - Friday, May 1st . 

Pastor Chris 

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord (1 Corinthians 15:58). 

The Lord Jesus taught extensively on the importance of faithfulness. In Luke 12:42-43, He said, "...Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing". When you faithfully carry out what God has instructed you to do, He promotes you and gives you additional responsibilities. 

Daniel, because of his faithfulness, was preferred above all the other presidents and princes set by Darius over his kingdom (Daniel 6:1-4). When the other presidents and princes connived and searched intently for an occasion against him, the Bible says, "...they could find none occasion nor fault; forasmuch as he was faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him" (Daniel 6:4). He was faithful in every aspect of his life - to God, the king, his work, and his people. 

It makes no difference the challenges that you may encounter as you diligently serve the Lord; remain steadfast. Let nothing move you. Imagine the calibre of people that rose against innocent Daniel: All the presidents of the kingdom, the governors, princes, counsellors, and captains! They finally conspired to enact a decree to incriminate Daniel in his devotion to God (Daniel 6:7). 

Nevertheless, Daniel was undaunted. He still prayed to the Lord five times a day, as was his custom. Of course, this earned him the brutal punishment of being cast into the lions' den, but God shut the mouths of the lions and Daniel was taken out of the den alive! Your faith in the Lord and your faithfulness to Him will always make you triumphant. 

In your service to the Lord, remain diligent and focused. Never think that your service in the house of God is of no value or in vain. Don't look to man for any form of reward. Even when it's as though no one appreciates what you're doing, always remember that your heavenly Father sees all you do, and He rewards your faithfulness. 

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for the privilege to serve you and fulfill the destiny that you've created for me! I'm steadfast, unmoveable, and undaunted by circumstances as I diligently serve you, putting my whole life into your work, because I know that my labour isn't in vain, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Proverbs 22:29
Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men. ; 

Hebrews 6:10
For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

Daily Scripture Reading 

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 24:13-35, 2 Samuel 9-11

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Mark 6:45-56, Numbers 4

Deborah777 this is for you. Have a great day. I'd be back with my story of how I joined CE

He'll Reward Your Faithfulness - Friday, May 1st . 

Pastor Chris 

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord (1 Corinthians 15:58). 

The Lord Jesus taught extensively on the importance of faithfulness. In Luke 12:42-43, He said, "...Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing". When you faithfully carry out what God has instructed you to do, He promotes you and gives you additional responsibilities. 

Daniel, because of his faithfulness, was preferred above all the other presidents and princes set by Darius over his kingdom (Daniel 6:1-4). When the other presidents and princes connived and searched intently for an occasion against him, the Bible says, "...they could find none occasion nor fault; forasmuch as he was faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him" (Daniel 6:4). He was faithful in every aspect of his life - to God, the king, his work, and his people. 

It makes no difference the challenges that you may encounter as you diligently serve the Lord; remain steadfast. Let nothing move you. Imagine the calibre of people that rose against innocent Daniel: All the presidents of the kingdom, the governors, princes, counsellors, and captains! They finally conspired to enact a decree to incriminate Daniel in his devotion to God (Daniel 6:7). 

Nevertheless, Daniel was undaunted. He still prayed to the Lord five times a day, as was his custom. Of course, this earned him the brutal punishment of being cast into the lions' den, but God shut the mouths of the lions and Daniel was taken out of the den alive! Your faith in the Lord and your faithfulness to Him will always make you triumphant. 

In your service to the Lord, remain diligent and focused. Never think that your service in the house of God is of no value or in vain. Don't look to man for any form of reward. Even when it's as though no one appreciates what you're doing, always remember that your heavenly Father sees all you do, and He rewards your faithfulness. 

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for the privilege to serve you and fulfill the destiny that you've created for me! I'm steadfast, unmoveable, and undaunted by circumstances as I diligently serve you, putting my whole life into your work, because I know that my labour isn't in vain, in Jesus' Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Proverbs 22:29
Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men. ; 

Hebrews 6:10
For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

Daily Scripture Reading 

1-Year Bible Reading Plan: Luke 24:13-35, 2 Samuel 9-11

2-Year Bible Reading Plan: Mark 6:45-56, Numbers 4

deborah777:
Ok! Do you want to share your story of how you ended in ce?

I sure will

deborah777:
Not yet found any blog of ex member. But had been talking with one ex member of ce from ce hannover germany - the branch of ce i am helping in my country is related with ce germany. She had told me interesting stuff.

Are you in Germany as of now or Nigeria?

And honestly personally it is sad to admit that i am failed again with keeping promise i gave to myself in past not to help in pastor centered ministry as i considered it over for me as unbiblical stuff based upon biblical church model descescribed in Eph 4:11-14.

No doubt you have a calling, judging from your posts so far, but, see it this way, you are being drawn to your purpose, do not fight it.

I may not completely understand what you mean by 'Pastor Centered' ministry, but I know God has always led his folks by one man, or Shepherd and flock. Read all through the NT and OT.

Ephesians 4:11-14 DOES NOT in any way negate what you're trying to say it does. It is very possible to function in these diverse offices. Paul was a pastor, a teacher, an Apostles, an evangelist. Timothy was a pastor and an evangelist. It would be error to think God only wants us to function in one.

And yes winsomeX stuff is thoughtful. I have thought to use his material first bit maybe translate them if needed but i will ask his permission first.

Fine by me.
He's also made me to think, but the more I think, the more I'm rooted.

I need to pray about it- what Lord is saying and also how to leave from my country branch less painfully to all parts because my pursue is to keep peace anbd harmony.

Can you mail me? Use my signature.

Why i am thinking of leaving is that, first i know that my call is not to remain stucked under one certain place or church but but build the body of Christ widely and second it is bit hard to make it from my secular job.

You're a bit wrong here. You have to have a local assembly where you can function. You must have a spiritual head as Paul wrote and taught. You can build the body of Christ from where you are, if you function by the Spirit.

But yes i chosed to help them after breaking up with my friend more than one year ago. I just wanted to try how it is to be translator and sort of secretary - i do not know right word in english, basically try to do administrative things in church like helping to mail rors, help in webmastering, opening the church door etc.

You're a ROR translator too? My goodness? You mail RORs? You're already doing much as it were. You're changing lives by what you do. Be faithful and diligent, and you will go places.

Let me share a bit of my story, in summary. I started posting ROR on Nairaland and Facebook 2 years ago. It was as a huge waste of time, it was like a... But I monitored the page views, and prayed for the viewers daily, and the viewership grew.


Long story short, a reader sent me a brand new Galaxy note 10.1 from a long distance by courier in August 2013, as I asked God for a better device in doing the ROR posting. I have been posting ROR daily for almost 2 years uninterrupted. I was diligent with my BlackBerry, before the tab. Today, because of that thread, I've met the best folks in the world, and top pastors in CE. I've met with Pastor Ose, Pastor Lane Arabi, Pastor Biodun Lawal, Pastor Joy Ameikhenan, Pastor Rita Ijomah, our own Pastor Joe :Detc

Today's Rhapsody of Realities is for you, it says "He rewards your faithfulness" read it up.

It had been nice challenge but bc ce is with quesonable hidden doctrine church and i am not sure in dogma of hell anymore, i do not want to promote it in my country much anymore. Yes i am still there but i try to be hidden as much as possible until i am here.

Forget what folks post here, CE has no hidden doctrine...and please, don't hide... You're the light of the world. Shine forth

Gladly i have still maintained my apostolic alignment with my apostolic church in Corinth TX called Glory of Zion Int- in Nigeria the representantive of that church is apostle Emmanuel Kure and i am following by web bc in my own country does not have strong apostolic church and i am tired of non mature church leaders - so it is good to follow them and be apostolically aligned and try find my way out from ce.

Pray about everything. He listens

trustman:
Statistician

No, computer scientist actually.

Oh well... The thread on Facebook had no comments today.

Life goes on.

vooks:
You never knew of its existence back then? Was you a single boy last year?


I was clear I needed CEC's 'wisdom' on marriage and this sure attempts to present that. Are you embarrassed that it has been shared seeing you had no intention of sharing it?

No need replying the above. I see how you ignored the fact that that manual is a masterpiece.

As for the above bold, no need to lie... See what you wrote here

Btw, am dying to read Rev Chris marriage books. What do you recommend?

https://www.nairaland.com/1957135/midas-touch-balanced-approach-biblical/62#27906078

deborah777:
Sorry i just tried to quote from my head one paragraph what i had read from Now you want to marry -book what is used in ce for marriage counselling. Basically i meant this from page 8 under title specific cases-when both persons are committed in different churches: "Both parties MUST eventually end up in one Church. It is also an illusion to plan to continue attending different churches. You cannot support yourselves spiritually this way and it also limits the level you can get to in such respective churches. There is no hard and fast rule that the couple should end up in the man’s Church but this is usually the case, sothe lady must ensure she is comfortable in the man’s Church."

in that same title it is say also: "Sharp or opposite doctrinal differences may eventually divide a home.Initially when the euphoria or novelty of love is still fresh, these things would appear to both parties as unimportant. This is an illusion as when they finally settle down to living, there would be constant conflicts." and "When both parties also have not been exposed to the same set ofdoctrines, there would need to be a time for ‘catching up’ by one party.This would result in a delay with respect to making spiritual progress when compared with another couple who also started at the same time but were previously exposed to the same set of doctrines."
In generally i agree with those paragraphs from that book because really every church have different beliefs and it have to make sure before getting married. Maybe even Rev Anita did not knew at beginning what his "lovely" husband believes until now when she decided for divorce.

And it ends "The best thing to do in these instances is to submit to the advice of the leadership of your Church. It is very wrong to go against the Pastor’s advice in the place where you are fed the Word of God and are seeing evident fruit of that Word in your life (Hebrews 13:7, 17). God’s dealings with individuals are also different and what is OK for one person might not be appropriate for another. Also at a higher level of commitment, some things are not the best for you. This is where the Pastor (or his delegated authority) comes in.He hears from God and can help set you in the right path for your life."
With this paragraph there is some things, i can not agree bit. Yes I can agree that it might be good to talk with spiritual leader who is above you -like to listen his oponion on this case. But I can not agree with that what it seems saying like I personally can not be able to listen from God (which is against word of God for exampe Rom 8:16 all who spirit of God leads are children of God) and must to obey the guidance the pastor gets from God if i want to be in line with him. Because there is always a option that pastor might make mistake in his listening from God and if person is trustful towards the pastor he or she may loose his or her mate and his or her happiness.
It proves the cases i have read before from web about ce members who literally had left their church and married somewhere else because their leaders in ce had not agreed with their marriage.

anyway you can download the book on your own from this blog https://timothyblogs./2014/02/13/a-marriage-guide-from-christ-embassy/ or just put into google christ embassy marriage counselling.

Thank you ma'am

^^
"I don't know of any" is not equal to "there is none".

That said, this is a marriage counseling manual, I don't suppose it was for all churches, as it will/may differ from another's.

The book is one sound masterpiece, ain't it?

Winsomex, review your thesis on 'cult marriage' in CE

WinsomeX:
You're welcome.

Sent you a friend request.

WinsomeX:
Facebook is actually the "open" forum where you need not hide under an anonymous monicker as you do here. But, honestly, if you think you have anything worthwhile to say, register an anonymous name on FB and come to that forum with your Oyakhilome jargons and see what becomes of it.

This is a huge challenge i am willing to pursue, i'd consider that before the day's end. Thank you

deborah777:
As much i have checked out CE book Now you want to marry-foundable via googleing- it says concerning choosing partner from different churches that finally it is needed to decide which church couple wants to remain which is compareble with other churches understanding about marriage as far as i know.

I didn't understand your post ma'am.

trustman:
You, tutor? You don't seem to have the capacity for that.

well, your opinion, but judging from the number of followership i have on NL (i cant follow a handful back for reasons best known to me), mails i get from my signature box and ROR thread, me thinks you're on the far side of hilarious assumptions. If you don't think i have the capacity, then i must laugh. Ever wondered why we don't have tithe threads of late as before? The issue is someone is busy praying, teaching and preaching winning others to Christ here on NL, the other is busy looking for Pastor Chris, WoF, fake miracle etc.

You prefer to play pranks in other people's thread so I'm sure you'll run from where you'll be exposed for who you are.

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WinsomeX:
If you are so confident of yourself, go to that discussion and leave a comment there, especially one bothering on your CE cultic gibberish and watch how those brethren will instruct you aright.

Tell them to all come here, an open forum, and I single handedly will tutor them properly, as I have done you consistently.

Your Blood-bought Inheritance · Thursday, April 30

Pastor Chris

According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue (2 Peter 1:3).

When we talk about salvation, some people don’t understand it; it’s a big word. It encapsulates all the wonderful blessings resulting from the redemptive work of Christ: salvation, healing and divine health, success, freedom, liberty, preservation, etc.; they’ve all been paid for! They’re yours now to enjoy! All the good things of life are all in the salvation package; the glorious life is your heritage. Prosperity with peace is your birthright.

Read the opening verse again; it says His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness. That’s not a promise; it’s a statement of fact, expressing what God has already done. In Christ Jesus, He’s given you everything that you require for the transcendent life; they’re all inside you. Christ in you is the hope of glory (Colossians 1:27), and Christ is everything.

Therefore, you’re forever set up for the triumphant life. In Christ, you have it made; all things are yours (1 Corinthians 3:21)! This is what makes Christianity so awe-inspiring; the life that God has given you is the divine life, and everything you’ll ever require to live joyfully and triumphantly, came with that life.

Remember this: Jesus shed His blood for you, being the only sinless one qualified to save us by His blood. Since He’s already done it, all you need do is enjoy the benefits associated with His vicarious sacrifice. You have legal rights to possess everything salvation in Christ brings, for they’re your blood-bought inheritance in Him: "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will" (Ephesians 1:11).

Confession...

Christ lives in me; therefore, I’m made for life! His divine power has given me everything I require to live joyfully and victoriously every day! Success, prosperity, divine health, promotions and the glorious life are my bloodbought inheritance, and vital experience in Christ Jesus! I have a goodly heritage. Halleluiah.

further study:Romans 8:32; John 10:10; 1 Corinthians 3:21

1 Year Bible Reading Plan: 2 Samuel 7-8 Luke 23:50-24:1-12
2 Year Bible Reading Plan: Mark 6:30-44 Numbers 3

Awwwww.... Winsomex, it's just fours posts yesterday...


Come hug it out bro...

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Image123:
The miraculous Jesus, the sweetest name available.

Gbam, Jesus is surely alive.

https://www.nairaland.com/2273141/reverend-lee-stoneking-shares-how


Ishilove, biko... Front page things. Thanks

You're in the wrong section.

Try romance section next time

trustman:
You forgot to give us one statistic - the number of views and the names of the viewers.
Please do that and get back to us.

Be smart na. It's Facebook, a closed group. A group created for discussion not viewing....but If you want to console yourself, fine.

He Lives In You · Wednesday, April 29

Pastor Chris

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service (Romans 12:1).

Why does God require us to present our bodies as a living sacrifice? It’s because He lives in your body. Your body is the temple of God; that’s where He lives: "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?" (1 Corinthians 3:16). If your body isn’t presented to Him, He can’t use it and the temple that He doesn’t live in is an ordinary building; it’s empty and void of glory.

Now, God is everywhere, but His manifested presence isn’t everywhere. Just like electricity; when there’s electrical power in a building, it doesn’t function everywhere in the building. The electrical appliances won’t function just because they’re in the building; they’ll have to be plugged into the power source. In the same vein, your physical body has to be yielded or submitted to God for Him to "perambulate" in you, as it were. This is the idea Paul gives us in 2 Corinthians 6:16; it says, "…for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them…."

"Walk" in the underlined phrase is the Greek word "emperipateo," which means "to perambulate"; to walk up and down the bounds of a property in a supervisory manner. God, through the Holy Spirit, perambulates in your body to keep it perfect against intruders, such as sickness, disease and infirmities; that’s part of His work and ministry in your life, so give Him the liberty. Be yielded to Him to minister in you.

God needs you; He wants to talk through you, look through your eyes, walk in, and through you, and bless the world through you. He needs your body. He wants yielded vessels. The more you’re yielded to Him, the more He’ll be revealed in you. Let Him work through you, and carry out His divine plans through you.

Confession...
Every fibre of my being is fully yielded to the Lord to carry out His divine plans through me! I’m His living tabernacle! He talks through me, moves through me, and expresses His love and righteousness through me! My spirit, soul, and body are sanctified for His sacred use, and His glory is revealed more and more in me today and always, in Jesus’ Name.

further study:

1 Corinthians 6:19-20;
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

 20  For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.



John 14:16-17
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

 17  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

1 year Bible reading plan: 2 Samuel 4-6 Luke 23:26-49

2 year Bible reading plan: Mark 6:14-29 Numbers 2

Joagbaje:
Gombs are you back from south Africa

Yesso, by His grace, LFMA has come and gone.. May God's name be praised. I just stumbled on this thread and decided to follow it.