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mrmayor:
There is no such thing as un-fermented wine,anyone who tells you different is a SHIT BRAIN

A quick search on google just showed me that there is such thing as un-fermented wine, unless of course, the writers of such articles are "SHIT BRAINS" as well.

mrmayor:
What did Jesus do?[/b[b]]?

In John 2:9,10 The director of feast said  to the bridegroom about the miraculous wine"Every other man puts out the fine wine first,and when the people are[b] INTOXICATED[/b],the inferior.You reserved the fine wine until now.

I don't know where you got this from, but The KJV version tell us this:  "And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now."

Before you start associating the "drunk" there with intoxication, note that the "drunk" there, as used in the sentence, is simply the past participle of "drink"; which means they drank the good wine to their satisfaction. Other versions use "drunk freely".

Also, I agree with what Kimba said here:  "The wine that resulted from Jesus' miracle power is not the many-months-fermented wine/alcohol that we manufacture today. Remember the Bible says, they drank, meaning the people at the wedding drank the "high quality", enjoyed themselves, celebrated with the Bride and groom, and all of them still knew their way back to their different homes. The Groom went home with His wife, he was not assisted."

If actually the wine was alcoholic, I believe they all must have gone home drunk, afterall, they drunk freely.

mukina2:
goodguy just as everyman has a demon in him
every lady has one too .
so we can all be bitchy if we want to and we can be ladies if we want to too

At least, we both reach a consensus here. Thank God.

mukina2:
women are to be treasured . .you see

What makes a woman more special than a man? I agree that women should be treasured. Men should be treasured too. But if a man can be slapped for exhibiting the 'demonic part' of himself, a lady shouldn't be left out also if she does the same. Equal rights, remember?

mukina2:
guys are always the troublemakers . .they are the ones to start cheating
they are the ones to start fooliish jealousy
so what do you expect?

Again, you're wrong. These acts are not peculiar to any gender. Even if you always fall victim everytime, it still doesn't make you right. It simply means you've been falling into the wrong hands. A guy who experiences these same things from the hands of a lady everytime will also present this same argument of yours.

mukina2:
no guy has the right to slap a woman . .
even she slapped you first

A man should never hit a lady. However, the moment a lady raises her tiny fingers to hit a man, she loses her right to be treated like a lady. - Seun Osewa

Why are you sounding like guys are always the troublemakers?  Troublemaking is not peculiar to any gender, as well as the reaction to the troublemaking.

A b*tch is one who doesn't respect herself, and as such, shouldn't be regarded with one.  A (real) lady is the direct opposite.

Mukina2,

Even when the lady really deserves it, the guy's still a coward?

Aren't there other words to use to describe guys that lay their hands on women (even though in most cases, the ladies really do deserve it) ??

On my way to work one morning, I saw a guy seriously slapping and bashing a girl, though people were pulling him away.  The guy appeared decent to me.  If he was an agbero or omo'ta, I would have understood the situation perfectly well.  The guy was obviously exasperated, because people were even begging him.  The girl, despite knowing fully well that she couldn't handle the guy, still kept hitting him with her tiny hands.  Guess what the guy did?  He simply showed her how Zidane did it on the field with Materazzi, but he introduced another style of his own, by giving her right on her face.  I couldn't watch the whole drama because I was in a moving bus.  But from the little I saw, it was very obvious that the girl did something that extremely vexed the guy.  The look on the guy's face alone showed it.  He looked like someone who wouldn't even pinch a girl, on a good day.

So, I am really tired of hearing guys being labelled as cowards and losers.

As akindayor said, I wouldn't even ever think of slapping a lady at all, but a b*tch?  I won't think twice!

Shahan,

Thanks for shedding more light to John 1:1.

omot208:
goodguy,
it's only an abnormal-thinking person like u that will do something as stupid as that.

What stupid thing did I do, and how does it make me an "abnormal thinker"?

omot208:
to ask a question that has been answered over and over again just to show what u feel.

I didn't ask any question, did I?

omot208:
u don't sound logical, probably not to your own ears and definitely not to mine.

This is not a competition about who sounds more logical.  I simply stated what I felt about your subjection there.  Prove me wrong if you can (and don't refer me back to your previous posts, because I have gone through them twice already).  You contradicted yourself.  I pointed that out, but you've resorted to insults, instead of attending to the matter on ground.

omot208:
u shouldn't do things like that, the flaw is certainly in your own lgoic. it only makes u sound either blind or just plain stupid.

You really don't need to get all worked up.  Happy New Year!

omot208:
goodguy, i have nothing to say to u. u will not draw me into another argument. u should read all the previous posts before u even decide to participate.

Incase you do not know, that was not my first post on this thread.  I have been following this thread with keen interest since its inception, and I have read all what you posted here.  I was only stating what I felt about that part of your post.  Any normal thinking human will easily note the flaw in your logic there, and will definitely not subscribe to your interpretation of John 1:1.  No arguments at all.

omot28,

I really do find it ridiculous that you accept the fact that the Word is Jesus, and at the same time, deny the fact that He is God, even when the same scripture you base your argument on tells us that ". . . the Word was God".

Did you order the two, or just one?

naijacutee,

You forgot to include the very one this thread is talking about - 2008! 

Actually, different people predicted different dates.  The one you're talking about is the prediction of Nostradamus.  But according to a source, he was misinterpreted by some so-called experts; since all his hard-to-decipher prophecies were written in the form of quatrains.  But this [url=http://www.google.com.ng/search?hl=en&q=why+2012%3F&meta=]2012[/url] Orion Prophecy is quite scary, because Nostradamus made a prediction concerning the same period too (2011 - 2012), only that his prediction is that of the World War III.

But then, this prediction of the World War III - its characteristics and aftermath are somewhat similar to that of the Orion Prophecy too.  They both conclude that Billions of people will be wiped out from the surface of the earth, and a new life will emerge subsequently.

Also, read what is said here: "World War III shall be different from World War I and World War II. The earlier World Wars were fought for establishing the supremacy of one country over the other. World War III shall be a fight to the finish between Christianity and Islam. It shall be the last folly of mankind. . . the last war of this era. It shall be the end of science as we know it today."

Considering the way Christians and Muslims attack each other these says, even here on Nairaland, I just hope this won't come to pass.  And about the war resulting to the end of science, Einstein envisaged that the fourth World War would be fought with stones and uprooted trees.

You really do believe that Orion Prophecy, don't you? It actually says 2012, not 2013.

I say this world will end after I've seen my children, grand children, and if possible, great-grand children!

I just stumbled on this website (http://the-end.com) from one of the google ads here on Nairaland (Seun, you dey hear? ); and I just ordered a copy each of the two books (2008 - God's Final Witness and The Prophesied End-Time).  Anyone who's interested can also order the books.  They're free to order (hard copy) and also free to download (in pdf format).

Order here:  http://the-end.com/Order_Free_Book.asp

Download here:  http://the-end.com/Download_Free_Book.asp

It'll work for you, if you want it to.

ThiefOfHearts:
What would you change about yourself: I guess my height, my act of procrastination

WesleyanA:
yeah, procastination is a wicked disease. too bad nobody's found the cure for it yet.

I recommend this article for both of you:  The Best Time is Now!

Happy reading!

Hannydarl, you can also check http://www.bibleontheweb.com. I prefer that one, actually.

David, I'm at home presently, enjoying myself.  As a matter of fact, I'm about leaving the PC now for lunch - Rice and chicken, with a soft drink to "step down".

I hope you'll have been alright by the time I return.  Have a nice time!

mide2,

I'm just having fun here.  God knows if I see David tomorrow on my street, I'll give him a hand shake, betterstill, a brotherly hug.  I might only be physical if he initiates the drama.

@davidyfool,

All the "stupid reasons" you gave for calling me a hypocrite clearly shows that you do not even know the meaning of the word, or is it that you do not know when and how to use the word?  Either way, I'm sure it's got something to do with that disrupted tiny organ in your skull. Really pathetic indeed!

Okay then, believe what you want to!

david, no hard feelings my brother.

For the umpteenth time, I do NOT support battering/beating/bruising of women!

davidylan:
@ "good"guy

I can't see anyone here specifically missing your so-called "absence" eh?

You're really more stupid that I thought.  What has my statement got to do with this balderdash of yours?

davidylan:
Nice to see you're still exhibiting your two-faced approach to issues. Keep sucking up to the women here:   fat load of good it will do ya!

See who's talking about sucking up to the women?  Are you not the same person who packed two ladies behind to go wage war against an innocent member of this forum?  Your head needs to be checked, seriously!

davidylan:
I include you to my "ignore idiots who are desperately in search of female attention" list. Have a nice day  

You mean the females I stand no chance of meeting in reality?  Why would I want to seek their attention?  Anyway, have a nice day too, and please find something to do to that disrupted tiny organ in your skull you call a brain before this year ends.  

Merry Boxing Day, Radiant.

Wow!  So much has really been said here in my absence.

@ the "loony gentleman" called David:

Yep i see why there is no point in "exchanging words" with her since she already called you a retard! Well deserved i must say! O i might just advice you to add me to the list of those ladies you no longer exchange words with too!
Wonderful how you prefer to "peacefully" respond to them and then come on my YIM to give unsolicited criticism!

When a guy exchanges words with a lady, he's called a coward.  When he refuses to, they say he's genuflecting .  And I wonder when you became a lady that I should add you to the list. You see, that's why I decided a long time ago to restrict my vituperations to guys alone, at least, I know I won't be called names of any sort . Anyway, it's nice to see how you've twisted the whole thing to make yourself appear so innocent.  Clap for yourself.

Gospel according to "good"guy: The man should just stick it out afterall it is a "union"! If the man bails out on account of mere "occassional" beating from his wife despite the fact that she is ordinarily loving and caring, then the man did not love her in the first place!

Merry christmas to hypocrites!

Why don't you just answer her question directly instead of hiding behind my post which you have deliberately chosen to misinterprete?  BTW, you really don't have to wish yourself a merry Christmas.  Let others do that for you, okay?

My dear, your brethren have said it all.

Beating of women (ONLY!) is allowed as long as the husband is caring, loving but occassionally abusive which the woman should be able to bear in the spirit of love

If only you were mentally alright. . .

davidylan:
Forget the tautology dear! I called you hypocrite for ONE reason, did you remember to go on YIM and preach to Eurphoria and Radiant too and tell them they were wrong? I'm sure you forgot dear that i was just one of many who were "wrong" that day.

1.  It was because I saw your YIM status as "online" here on the forum, that I decided to have a reasonable conversation with you.

2.  I didn't deem it necessary to discuss the issue with any of the ladies.

I still do not know how this classifies me as a hypocrite.

davidylan:
Hmm if i'm not mistaken they made more of the posts than me you know. . . Funny how many guys here genuflect at the ladies here and yet are so quick to point out the "wrongs" when its a guy.

If I am not mistaken, you started that topic you know?

davidylan:
If i can still read, TOH's reponse to you simply provoked a mere "yes ma, i now get your point ma" despite the fact that hers was 100x harsher than any word i ever used in my one little post that you prefered to pick apart even though half of the comments were not aimed specifically at you!

There was/is no point exchanging words with her.  It definitely wasn't/isn't going to result into anything productive.  I don't know if you've noticed, but I stopped exchanging words with ladies on this forum a long time ago.  The same ToH once called me a "Retard" for a statement I made, to which I innocently replied, "I am sorry".  Even on that same thread you started, Euphoria called me "dumb", which I peacefully addressed here.  Also on another thread, kiki insulted me for correcting her, and I simply replied "You're welcome" with the 'Cool' smiley, to which she responded, obviously surprised I didn't fire back, by calling me a "Gentleman" .  You may call that a genuflection.  I really do not care.  Actually, it's called 'Chivalry' . God knows I am very good at exchanging words, especially with ladies.  Even Seun once called me a troublemaker.  But really, it's nothing to be proud of.

davidylan:
Now dear, you know why i don't respect you and refer to you as a hypocrite. Have a merry christmas. . .

I don't need you to respect me, and I still do not see anything I've done that warrants you calling me a hypocrite.  Have a merry Christmas too.

P. S. Can you please stop calling me "dear"?  I'm not gay!

I seriously hope you know the meaning of that word "hypocrite" you keep using to describe me.  What exactly makes me a hypocrite?  You accused someone wrongly, I told you you were wrong, and suddenly, I become a hypocrite?  Interesting!

And, you don't have to be tautological. You're either two-faced, or a hypocrite.

davidylan:
@ goodguy,

Funny how you seem to "get TOH's point" and yet can't get mine even though we both were saying the same thing!

Really?

davidylan:
About the YIM thingy, i dislike hypocrites! don't come up on my YIM preaching nonsense, if you wish to do so please preach to someone else. I ended up blocking you anyway so thanks for the unsolicited comments!

And I'm seriously wondering who the hypocrite is now in this case.  What we discussed on Yahoo messenger has absolutely nothing to do with this thread/topic, so I wonder why you're bringing it up here.  It seems you're just looking for an avenue to fire back at me because I told you the truth about yourself, privately.  Besides, I wasn't preaching to you, mister!  I tried to be as calm as possible, but no, you wanted it the "hot" way, and I simply served you likewise.  At least, I'm glad you got my last message (seriously, it was going to be the last I'd send to you) before you blocked me.

davidylan:
The sermon had absolutely NOTHING to do with you or any comments you made, i wonder why you felt you just had to comment on them. Next time please ignore them and continue reading.

I wonder why you had to start your post with "@ goodguy" if those comments were not directed at me or my comments.

davidylan:
Do you need me to remind you of your post where you defended husbands who are loving and caring but "only occassionally abusive"?

Do you need me to remind you of my last post I directed at ThiefofHearts?

Modified:  I can see you've modified your post.  The part of my post that you emboldened is not in defense of abusive husbands at all.  I never said, or even implied that they are right to beat their wives ocassionally so far they were caring and nice in other aspects.  Rather, I was only trying to make a point there, as to what action a woman needs to take if she ever found herself in such situation.  Please don't misunderstand me.

davidylan:
@ goodguy,

You came all over my YIM talking nonsense the other day. Now you are here saying nonsense again

What nonsense was I saying over your YIM, and how does it relate to what we're presently discussing here?

davidylan:
You are a christian (at least that is what you claim!), the bible says "husbands love your wives as Christ so loved the church"!
Is it possible that Christ is nice and loving but "occassionally abusive" to you?

No it's not possible.  I never said or implied that, did I?

davidylan:
Never hit a woman, neither your sister, wife, cousin or friend! It is cowardly! No woman should be forced to endure that in the name of marriage being a union! I have seen my mother cry in my presence before when i was just 12 or 13! I made up my mind to NEVER follow in the footsteps of those who hold the bible in one hand and beat their wives with the other!

I don't think there is anywhere on this thread where I've supported beating a woman, so I really do not know the essence of your sermon here.

ThiefofHearts, your last reply just cleared some things now.  Please don't be cross with me.  I was looking at it from another perspective entirely.  I certainly won't advise you to remain till you're beaten black and blue.  But then, I really do not want to believe that there are men who derive pleasure in beating their wives.  I believe those that beat their wives do it under certain uncontrollable external influences, and as such, shouldn't be held totally responsible for their actions.  And that was why I advised that you should try helping him overcome that attitude, and if you would refuse to do this and be so quick to leave him alone just like that, then you probably never really loved him.  Anyway, I get your point now. 

Merry Christmas.


P.S. goodguy and Donzman are two totally different people. Thanks!

@Radiant,

I said you implied that statement. I never said you uttered it outrightly. Look at the statement you made below:

Radiant:
what happens if a woman hits a man and continues battering him in their marriage?

Note the emboldened part of the quoted post. If I'm not wrong, then I think you are only trying to understand what a man's reaction would be if the reverse was the case.