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Yeah I know. You're welcome.

How many of his films have you watched really?  Have you watched "Jingle all the way"?  At least, that one is not totally an action movie, though there were little fights here and there, no guns, no killings, mostly comedy, and he was great in that movie.

I won't bother arguing with you on that anyway.  Everyone's got his preferences.  To me, he's a very wonderful actor.

ThiefOfHearts:
Arnold Schwenegger or whatever that idiot's name is, bad actor yet he makes alot of money.

huh?  do you know who arnold schwarzennegger is at all?  I greatly believe you're mistaking that name for someone else!

You're right. The CD-ROM might be the cause too.

Donzman is missing the point.

The fact here is that the few Yoruba actors and actresses we have in Nollywood, are far better than their Igbo counterparts.  Period!

abi no be so Orikinla talk?

mukina2:
i want to ask a question after which i'll answer all of yours

why did you create this thread?

I created this thread because I was curious, and I still am. Your replies do not really appeal to me, since I do not see the significance of long beard keeping by Muslim men, from the epistle you copied and pasted up there.

Nigerians never fail to amaze me. We all want Nigeria to be greater, yet we do not want to vote for the person who, at this present time, seems the most suitable person to help achieve that greatness, simply because he is a Pastor.

Some even go ahead to say he's mixing God's work with worldy activities, and as such, he is a thief and a self-centered good-for-nothing fraud. Is this to say, if I, for instance, am a born again Christian, I should not contest for presidency simply because it is a thing of the world? Is this to say we should continually keep voting for crooks simply because they are "experienced" and "rugged"? For Christ's sake, I believe men of God, whose good works are visible enough for all to see, should even be the ones we all should be craving for to rule this devasted nation! Why on earth would anyone want to vote in renowned thieves like IBB and Atiku?

Please people, we need someone with a boundless vision and definite commitment to excellence, and I believe, Okotie is one of the very few that can do this job right.

They are planning on regularising their academic calendar, and *probably* in the process, they wouldn't want to combine two sets together.  So they *probably* feel it's best if they do not admit students next year to avoid over-crowding, since their current prospective students will be not be resuming until next year September.

This is just what I think. I'm not sure.

@cabali,

I'm sorry for going offtopic. This seems to be the only way to let her know.

ThiefOfHearts:
wasnt mukina basically saying that there are Quran reasons for Muslims having long beards as well?

No.  They are all "Hadith" and "Esteemed Muslim men" reasons.  None is from the Qu'ran.

dominobaby, please check your email. i sent u a mail, it's almost 2 wks now.

Someone finally got me the link to the driver from the driverguide forum. Thanks adewaleafolabi!

The modes of acting in Yoruba movies by OGD, Mainframe and Muyiwa Ademola are far better than those of English films, no matter who the producer/director is.

No Seun.  It's a Desktop PC.

adewaleafolabi, I came across the site while searching, but don't like registering on sites for stuffs like this so I just ignored it.  I'll check it out now anyway.  Thanks.

mukina2:
goodguy you asked a question didnt you?

Your responses are not satisfactory enough. Please answer my subsequent questions.

Interesting!

mukina2:
goodguy read on . .

Importance of the Beard in the words of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam):

(1) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said "I have no connection iwth one who shaves, shouts and tears his clothing eg. in grief or affication."
- Reported by Abu Darda (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 501

(2) The teachings of Hadhrat Ammar Bin Yaasir, Abdullah Ibn Umar, Sayyidina Umar, Abu Hurairah and Jaabir (R.A.), indicate that ALL used to keep beards that were one fist length or more. Hadhrat Jaabir (R.A.) had said: "We used to grow long beards and only during Hajj and Umrah did we trim them to the required length (i.e. fist length)."

(3) Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Umar (R.A.) relates that: "He who imitates the kuffar (non-believers) and dies in that state, he will be raised up with them on the Day of Qiyamat (Judgement)."

(4) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) says: "Trim closely the moustache, and let the beard flow (Grow)."
- Narrated Ibn Umar (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 498

(5) "Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) ordered us to trim the moustache closely and spare the beard" says Ibn Umar.
- Muslim, Hadith no. 449

(6) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)said: "Act against contrary to the polythesists, trim closely the moustache and grow the beard."
- Reported by Ibn Umar (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 500

(7) Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said "Trim closely the moustache and grow the beard."
- Reported by Abu Hurairah (R.A.) in Muslim, Hadith no. 501

( Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said: "Anyone who shaves has no claim to the mercy of Allah"
- Reported by Ibn Abbas (R.A.) in Tibrabi

(9) Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Umar (R.A.) used to cut that portion (which exceeds the grip of the hand) of the beard.
- Tirmidhi

What exactly is the significance?  All what's written up there only indicates that beards should be kept because the Hadith commands it.

mukina2:
The Beard according to the Great Imams of Jurisprudence

Hanafi

Imam Muhammed (R.A.) writes in his book "Kitabul Aathaar" where he relates from Imam Abu Hanifa (R.A.) who relates from Hadhrat Haytham (R.A.) who relates from Ibn Umar (R.A.) that he (Ibn Umar) used to hold his beard in his hand and cut off which was longer. Imam Muhammed (R.A.) says that this is what we follow and this was the decision of Imam Abu Hanifa. Therefore, according to Hanafies, to shorten the beard less than a FIST LENGTH is HARAAM and on this is IJMA (concensus of opinion).

Shafi'i

Imam Shafi (R.A.) in his Kitabul Umm states, "To shave the beard is HARAAM." (Shari Minhaj dar Shara Fasl Aqueeqa).

Maaliki

Shekh Ahmad Nafarawi Maliki in the commentary of Imam Abu Zayed's booklet states, "to shave the beard is without doubt haraam according to all Imams." It is also mention in "Tamheed" which is a commentary of "Muatta" (Sunnan Imam Malik (R.A.)) that to shave the beard is HARAAM and among males the only ones to resort to this practice (of shaving) are the HERMAPHRODITES (persons who possess both male and female features and characteristics).

Hanbali

The Hanbalies in the famous Al-Khanie'a Hanbali Fatawa Kitab state that "to grow the beard is essential and to shave it is HARAAM." Also in the Hanbali Mathab books "Sharahul Muntahaa" and "Sharr Manzoomatul Aadaab", it is stated "The most accepted view is that it is HARAAM (prohibited to shave the beard)."

Also note, according to scholars of Islam: "To shave off the beard is unlawful (haraam) and one who shaves his beard is legally speaking an unrighteous fellow (FASIQ); hence, it is NOT PERMISSIBLE to appoint such a man as an Imam. To say Taraweeh behind such an Imam is MAKRUH-E-TAHRIMI (near prohibition)" (Shami Vol.1, p.523)

The Durre-Mukhtar states: "No one has called it permissible to trim it (the beard) less than FIST-LENGTH as is being done by some westernized Muslims and hermaphrodites." (Vol. 2, p. 155). Also, "It is forbidden (haraam) for a man to cut off another's beard." (Vol. 5, p. 359).



Thus, a Muslim who shaves or shortens his beard is like a hermaphrodite, his Imamate near prohibition, his evidence is not valid, he will not have the right to vote or being voted for. Shaving and shortening the beard is the action of non-believers. Imam Ghazzali (RA) says: "Know that the key to total bliss (Saadah) lies in following the Sunnah and in emulating the life of Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) in ALL that issues from him, and in ALL his doings even if it concerns the manner of his eating, rising, sleeping, and speaking. I do say thisin relation to rituals in worship ONLY because ther is no way neglecting the Sunnah reported of him in such matters - but what I say INCLUDES EVERY ASPECT of his daily life." (Kitab al Arbain Addin, Cairo 1344, p. 89). Furthermore, in the Holy Qur'an, Allah told Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) to say:

"Say: "If ye do love Allah, Follow me: Allah will love you and forgive you your sins: For Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Quran 3:31)

The daily recitation of a band of angels of Allah is "Holy is the Being who adorned men with beards and women with braids" (Takmela e Bahr al Raiq, Vol. 3, p. 331)

Lastly, Allah Ta'ala says in the Holy Qur'an: "And when the true believers are called to Allah and His Rasul (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) [to accept and practice the law and commands of Allah and His Rasul (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam)] that he may pass judgement upon them, their ONLY reply is 'We hear and obey.' Such men shall surely prosper." (24:51)

THE CALL IS TO GROW A FIST LENGTH BEARD, LET US HEAR AND OBEY TO PROSPER.

The Blessed Beard, Grow it, what's so hard to understand?
Commentary by Islam.tc

What's "HARAAM" about men shaving their beards?  And what about those that are naturally nonhairy?

mukina2:
Muslims are overcome with western influence in their lives and it's easy to forget, nay, neglect the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him). Little do these Muslims realize the magnitude of their actions in imitating Kufaar (see Hadith section). This is a truly shocking! Hopefully the information presented herein will enlighten those. And then there are others who claim that the matters concerning beards is a "little" issue not worthy of mention nor practice. To them I say get off the denial bandwagon, you're a Muslim! Follow the Prophet (Peace be upon him) in all aspects of life, for he was the best of examples. I couldn't tell you how many times I've mistaken a Muslim brother (outside of the Masjid) for a kaafir on account of his clean-shaven, well oiled, face. How can I say "Assalaamu Alaikum Brother!" when I do not know if he is a Muslim. Yet that very brother then wonders why he was ignored! Sure, he can tell if others are Muslim on account of their beard, but what about himself? From one brother to another, I say: "Grow a beard, then, since it also promotes Brotherhood in the real world. Stand with your Brothers, be one. We know you think you are handsome without it (a beard), but who cares? What matters is how Allah (S.W.T.) sees you. And when you do grow a beard, don't mock the Sunnah, please grow it correctly, i.e. FIST LENGTH. That is the prescribed length and no shorter (see Hadeeth section), " Peace.

So you keep beards because Muhammad did so during his lifetime?  This reminds me of this story below:

As Jane serves "roast pork" for dinner, John comments on how "delicious" it looks but has been wondering for a long time why Jane cuts off both ends of the pork.
 
"Well dear" replies Jane, "I have always watched my mother do it when I was growing up and therefore cannot answer why this has to be done, however I shall ask her why when I speak with her next"

Later that evening Jane calls her mother to ask. After a short silent pause, the mother replies "Well dear, I have always watched your grandmother prepare the roast pork this way, therefore maybe you should ask her"
 
By this time curiousity has got the better of Jane and she calls her grandmother almost immediately.
 
"Grandma, why do you cut off both ends of the roast pork when preparing it" ask Jane. "is this to make it taste better"
 
Her Grandma replies "well Jane, as far as I can remember the reason I did that was because I could not fit the pork into my cooking pot otherwise".

The moral of the story is that we seem to do things almost instinctively or automatically without knowing the actual historical reason behind them.

THINK!

Was it an ADC plane? I thought I heard Bellview.

Try another Win XP CD.

Okay, I'm sorry if I was harsh there.

Check the link I included in my earlier post.

I've searched the whole of google and even the HP site. The only related page I came across didn't include any options to download drivers. I'm tired of searching. Can anyone please get the link for me? Thanks!

maxxdjinx,

the issue is not about giving to God. The problem here is that so many ordinary people have now taken advantage of this "giving to God" issue, and people keep falling for the same scam everytime, simply because these people claim they're called by God. And of course, no one wants to disobey a "man of God". So you see where the problem lies?

Seun:
Goodguy is gradually becoming an atheist. All you need now is a major calamity to push you over the edge.

I knew someone would say that. Funny enough, the major person I was expecting was you. I know you also started out like this, but trust me, I won't turn out to become what you are today. If only I had not seen and experienced miracles, and heard testimonies, your assertions could probably be right.

As gbade. x said, I'm only seeking knowledge. I need certain things to be clarified to me, hence, my atheist-like questions.

[quote author=gbade. x link=topic=31224.msg732550#msg732550 date=1164919002]@ goodguy and Drusilla,

God knows what we'd "become" but possibilities arise, depending on the choice we make and the consequences thereafter. In making those choices, God doesn't interfere and this is where our freewill comes in.[/quote]In other words, even if those choices will harm other people, or even ourself, God doesn't just care, and can easily blame that on the "freewill" he gave us after the deed must have been done? Is that what you're saying?

[quote author=gbade. x link=topic=31224.msg732550#msg732550 date=1164919002]E.g : an 8 year old boy turns armed robber, years to come. Between those years, He has the choice to make.[/quote]I do not believe God will give anybody the freewill to choose to become what will eventually cause harm to other humans. Or are you impyling that he's not a good God?

Okotie is the man Nigeria needs!

The link I put there is also about resumption abi?

What?

This is to the muslims in the house.  Of what significance is the long beard sported by majority of muslim men?

Hey, I'm just curious.

I do not believe humans have freewill. God already knows who'll become a pastor, and who'll become an armed robber. Whatever man does will not change him from being what God 'programmed' him to be. Either this, or God is not omniscient.

I made that post in English, didn't I?

Check here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-31790.0.html

then here: http://www.ui.edu.ng/admissions.htm

omobolaluv,

are you a student of UI? You seem to know a lot about the latest news from the school.