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Fyi0:
Barrack Thiefbama lost both house and the senate during his tenure as president. Trump won the senate and key gubernatorial races. Even in the house, most Trump-hating satanists were replaced by moderate ones.
The midterm elections was really a victory for Trump.

Satanists everywhere!!!!

OmG, this is where I see your complete ignorance and LIES like your master Trump....the midterm electon is MESSAGE SENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE THAT AMERICANS ARE TIRED OF THE BS IN THE EXECUTIVE.

The midterm electon IS THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE - THE MASSES. Trump never won the popular vote so the wish of the people is now represent in the the midterm.

Trump is NOW SCARED the HoRs are now controlled by the majority to check him and he can't get away with most things he's getting away and possible impeachment if he's convicted of a crime or misbehaves.

Lastly, how dumb is it to loose major seat in HoRs where the people of USA are mostly representated and call it a victory?

Fyi0:
Oga go and read the separation illusion by John Whitehead. America is well enough a Christian nation. No question about that. Mumu. Satanist.

And what exactly made America a Christian nation? Just because John Whitehead said so in a book or because only Christians are suppose to live in America? America like other diversed nation's have Christians, Muslims, atheists etc

The United States IS NOT GOVERNED BY THE BIBLE BUT GOVERNED BY WHAT'S CALLED THE CONSTITUTION......

CAPSLOCKED:
ME TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS JARGON YOU WROTE LIKE......

You don't have to. It's a Christian dogwhistle and my people understand what was said.

As much as we recognize the first creation, much more we recognize the new creation. As we bear the image of the first Adam, much more now we bear the image of the second Adam. As we bear the earthly vessel, our heavenly vessel is complete and unique in Christ.

Martinez19:
Yes.

Ok good....at least you're sincere enough.

JeromeBlack:
Do Martinez and the other Trump supporters even understand what nationalism means?

These guys are no different from pastor worshippers. They rather not listen to the message from the source as they prefer to worship the man's riches.

They believe that since trump is rich and he has power and beautiful women, trump is right. They worship the charisma rather than listening to the message.

Mehnnn, I tell you these church folks think the state and church are one and the same hence, they falsely say America is a Christian nation.

Hold on a minute, if America is a Christian nation how come the founding fathers drafted the Constitution and the first amendment when religion was mentioned as if only Christians are suppose to live in America.

Martinez39:
Yes, you send them back. It's the best decision objectively. Shikena.

Okay, in the same logic and response from you. If your relatives or any of your family members come here and overstayed or out of status and becoming ILLEGAL....do you still agree that Trump send them back still?

LordReed:
Yeah that's why they want to reduce visa and immigration quotas because they love y'all.

Edit: BTW who is his closest black advisor or white house official? How many black people are on his cabinet?

Exactly how I'm trying to school this Trumpets....the man said it himself.... HE'S A NATIONALIST and his based understood that. And btw, Duke who is a racist and white nationalist was first for congratulate Trump after Trump said that.

Martinez19:
All these arguments do not, even in the slightest sense, make any solid case against Trump. Sending people, who came illegally, back is a sound idea and Trump is not breaking any rule by doing that. Regardless of your geographical location or advantage, coming into someone's country illegally is wrong.

Just as I thought....u can't debate this argument.

Again, I completely agree with you you the Mexicans shouldn't swing in or jump the fence etc into the USA BUT....BUT....BUT....u r not listening to my argument of legal terms here....that is,

When you hear "ILLEGAL" immigrants, it means BOTH those who came LEGALLY by visa and had overstayed or didn't go back AND THOSE Mexicans who swimmed or jumped in.....they are BOTH NOW ILLEGAL by LAW.

What do you do to them? Send them all back?

bedspread:
If u like , live inside Whitehouse! A man without Understanding of the times and Seasons will remain the same!

Donald Trump is best Thing that has Happened to the USA in Decades!!

Today The Country is benefiting Graciously! The Economy is booming! Jobs are Available! Righteousness is adhered to! Unrighteous decrees are being upturned!

Despite the Fake news media are gradually becoming tired!

A Man that has gone about implementing all he promised befor Election...,

Only Evil blacks do not appreciate Trump!!

First of all, I have understanding of times and you can check my history here on religious section. I don't even know when you came on board.

2. Trump is the worst modern president in history and that's why this midterm electon is sending a message to his foolishness in the white house.

3. America had always being gracious and will continue to be. Talking about righteousness being adhere to....YOU MUST BE A JOKE LIKE TRUMP HIMSELF. Under this administration, there's has been more shooting and killing in history. There's been more racial profiling of black people than ever. There has been more emboldened racial discrimination than ever... Etc. U WANNA KNOW WHY? LOOK AT THE CHARACTER OF THE MAN AT THE TOP? I'm not saying he's the one telling these folks to do it BUT IT STARTED FROM HIM AT THE TOP.

4. Economy. Do you know how economy works? Let me school you a little bit and these are facts as Google is your friend...

When Obama took office, he inherited grate depression and economic collapse from Bush and the unemployment was nearly 10%

When Obama left office, it was 4% unemployment and Trump inherited a roboast economy AND STILL GROWING.

Trump gave tax cuts to company and their rich executives but wages are stagnant. However more jobs was created because these CEO understand they can't get more jobs into the economy and make more money but won't trickle down the profit or the tax cuts given to them so wages are stagnant. Therefore you see job growth WHICH BY THE WAY IS PREDICTED TO GROW FROM OBAMA administration.... economy just don't grow from trees, you have to work it over certain period of time. Trump hasn't messed up the roboast economy he inherited and so it will continue to GROW.

5. Tell me one thing Trump has implement OTHER THAN TAX CUT FOR THE RICH? Obamacare is in court because Trump wants to take away pre existing conditions and Americans are saying NO! He hasn't build no walls which he said Mexicans will pay for. Everything Trump is doing in campaign is fear motivated campaign and playing to the ignorance of his base, the white poor and uneducated Americans, these are his base....YOU KNOW HE SAID...I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED PEOPLE...

And lastly, it is black people like you who supports Trump that are evil....you know why, Trump never associated with our black heritage nor our civil rights nor human rights. Ask him what he did on MLK day and how he's treated our black women in the white house and black reporters? Greater percentage of black who voted for him and turning away from him because they now see his true colors and are saying NO TO HIS VOTE COME 2020 AND BTW, YOU CAN PRINT AND WEAR TRUMP 2020 FOR ALL I CARE, THERE ARE GROUND WORK GOING ON TO SEND HIM PACKING IN 2020 SO AMERICANS HAVE GO TO SLEEP AND REST AT NIGHT....TRUMP IS HEADACHE AND DISASTER TO USA....WE WAKE UP TO ONE CRAZY ISSUE EVERYDAY TO ANOTHER BUT WE SLEPT GOOD WHEN OBAMA WAS IN OFFICE.

itchie:
And how does Trump treat his black employees? Another load of rubbish you just swallowed from CNN. My friend just got a Visa to the US this year, he is in Maryland USA as we speak so anyone intending to get a Visa should go and pass through the process and do the right thing. Stop manufacturing fake news and spreading liberals and media propaganda. Seek for the truth and stop believing the lies you are being fed daily by CNN and other devilish media groups in the US

I completely agree with you that anyone coming over to the USA should come legally BUT how do you explain Trump running the migrant caravan into the USA on his fear motivated campaign to rally his base?

Annnnnnd btw Asylum IS LEGAL in USA BUT TRUMP WON'T LET THEM HAVE IT.

He also wants to stop chain migration BUT HIS WIFE PARENT BENEFITED FROM CHAIN MIGRATION. He wants to end birth right citizenship? He wants to end DACA etc. All of these are LEGAL in USA but Trump wants to end it? Ask yourself WHY?

****** I know the answer but I'll let you take a shot *******

Martinez19:
@bold
I see that you are one of the CNN sheeples. If we Nigerians choose to migrate legally to the USA, Trump has no problem with that. Trump is against illegal immigration and when he promised to send illegal immigrants back, CNN and other "Liberal" media outlets twisted it, in their political inspired hatred for Trump, to imply that Trump hates non-Americans thereby branding Trump a racist.

Many Nigerians are having it tough and as a result they appreciate any leader that is passionate about the his/her country. For your information, Trump does not hate blacks.

Now let's talk facts and fact check our conversation.

The word "illegal" immigrants is a play down on words depending how you want to argue it in legal terms and under the Constitution of the USA.

If a Nigerian man comes here "legally" by obtaining visa AND AFTER HE OVERSTAYS OR DONT GO BACK....he/she becomes ILLEGAL in the USA.

The Mexicans who swim into USA or come through the back door without obtaining visa LEGALLY and stay here in USA are also illegal.

While I agree it is unfair to the Nigerian man who came here legally, I also say it's not the Nigerian man fault because the geographical location and immigration policies in place he had to follow. The Mexican man on the other hand geographical location favours him and he took advantage of the system.

Now, what's the solution since they both in USA ILLEGALLY? Send all of them back? That won't solve the problem because when the documents defines who is illiegal, it puts these two categories of people as ILLEGAL.

So what's to be done bipartisan is find a common ground to agree to solve USA immigration policies not send them back and by the way, sending them back is not compassion.

I can't argue if Trump hates black people or not but he's definitely a white nationalist and black people do not like such because of what it reminds us....check your history.

itchie:
So Trump has to be a Christian for Nigerian Christians to support him? Are there no Christians supporting Buhari who is a Muslim in Nigeria? Your reasoning is faulty. Trump is doing a great job as US President and any Christian (Nigerian or not) who is inspired by him is free to support him. No article of faith in Christianity prevents any Christian from supporting Trump

You're right....anyone (Christian or not) can support whoever they want but that's not the argument here. The argument is, Christians supporting Trump because he portrays"Christian values". Does a Christian go about lying and averaging more than 8 lies in a day? Does a Christian brags about grabbing women by d p*****? Does a go about being cruel? Etc. These are issues we're talking about here?

JeromeBlack:
Calm down. I am not a christian.

The reason why Nigerians support Trump is because of his conservative stance which favours religious morality.

Outside religion, is there any reason to be a political supporter of Trump? No.

Dont mind these so called religious conservative.... other than the pro life debate, the religious conservative don't have any religious basis for supporting Trump bcoz you can't be a Trump supporter and still claim Christian values.... you to be a liar like Trump himself.

Hold on let me school these Trumpets here...

bedspread:
how would u Respond when u don't know!

What you mean I don't know. I lived this history here in the USA of this joker , pathological liar, racist and white nationalist of a person who ever has been in the white. What is it that is christian or even presidential about Trump?

I had to read the whole article in order to understand the title of the thread. Nice job

bedspread:
I SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP

GOD BLESS PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP

Good for you trumpet. You're one of those that will still support and vote him for re election if he shoots someone in the middle of 5th avenue.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBOi7nfrd8k

bedspread:
[s][/s]its only a Hater that knows a Hater!!
President Donald Trump is the Best thing to Happen in these Times...

A Sinner who decides to do And Support Godliness is Far better than a Saint or Pastor that supports ungodliness

Tell us one thing that's godliness about Trump

bedspread:
Donald Trump may not be a Saint! But HE is a Willing tool in GOD'S HANDS! Open your eyes well...

What do you Call a Man who is bringing back the USA to its Foundation of Godliness!

What do you Call that is against all the satanic vices the demoncrats were inventing in the USA!

What do you Call a Man That Respects His Creator, And Involes HIM in all!!

The Only Reason America is Prospering today is because The Present Leadership Acknowledges GOD ALMIGHTY! nothing more!



Donald Trump by all Human aspersions was not supposed to be President!! He didn't even know HE will win! The World didn't give Him a chance!

But Because he had Involved THE ALMIGHTY,
Every other aspirations had to give way!

President Donald Trump as President is The Finger of GOD!

You a joke just as Trump himself. Wish I could respond to all the dumb points you made above but hey, when you don't know better, it shows in your comments as above.

bobochem:
Lolz.D man don turn to inec.see d church members dey jubilate as if d man na him get final say for d election.

It's dangerous for one man to tell confidently how an election will go as if he's the one making the results EXCEPT he's Christ.

Until the church and every Nigerian Christians start or continue to study the word for themselves inside of attending these shows we have in Nigeria churches, the better it becomes for us all.

I have said it before and will say it again and again.....

Prophecy in the NEW TESTAMENT does not mean telling the future neither does it mean prediction. Good said he will have a new covenant that is not as the old covenant.

Many church leaders unfortunately don't know better and they define new testament prophecy by foretelling or predicting an event. Nigerian church leaders has made rubbish of the ministry gifts.

^^^

Why two of una dey quarrel naw, shebi una two are on the same course. Fussing are better handled maturely.

Thanks for the good work on here though.

Kenneth4u205:
He is right .But we should not abuse that grace by wilfully sinning

You're are right and 100% correct but it is still the Grace of God in the finished works of Christ that gets you out of sin and when we fall into sin.....I mean past, present and future sin. However, sins doesn't make you UN-righteous after you have been made righteousness in the finished works of Christ.

Yes he is right as far as the righteousness of God is concerned

OLAADEGBU:
Higher Everyday
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2017

PROVE GOD IN TITHING
TEXT: MALACHI 3:10

"Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing" (Malachi 3:10).

A tithe is 10% of your income. God demands our tithes for the administration of the church and propagation of the gospel. A lady testified to how the company she was working for closed down. The director called her and said that their operations in Cameroon were not going as planned so they would have to pay them off. When she was paid off, the first thing she did was to set aside the tithe before thinking of what to do. A few weeks later, the same director called her back. He said that although they were leaving the country, they would still maintain a presence in Cameroon. They laid off other staff but kept her to take charge of the office.

God's command on tithing is for all to obey irrespective of our status. If we are to enjoy the blessings of God in our lives as youth we too must obey in tithing, no matter how little it is. The Bible says, "He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much" Tithe is an expression of faith toward God. Prove God and you will be blessed in your finances and other areas.

• Challenge: "Obedience brings a blessing."

• Prayer: "Lord, give me the grace to tithe."

• Quote: "Tithe is an expression of faith toward God."

• Bible Reading in one Year: Deuteronomy 28:1-3

See more here:

Someone said tirhe is an expression of faith? This is one of the religious fallacies I've heard in decades. But the scripture says, The law IS NOT of faith......

How in the world did I missed this article since 2017....

You want to understand the gospel of Grace, I strongly encourage you to study deep the book of Romans which unveiled the Grace of God to us.

That being said, I have come to understand Grace to be:

God's
Riches
At
Christ's
Expenses

More deeper, Grace is everything God had done for us as believers through the death, burial and ressurrection of Christ.

My little cent

Great message in the OP. It took the grace of God with determination for diligent study in the word for most of us to come out of some wrong teachings.

We're once taught that holiness means sinlessness only to find out the same people who taught us that themselves still ask for forgiveness of sins.

solite3:
Are you sure you believe what Paul and John wrote?

No he doesn't. He just picked verses that he thinks Paul was in favor of his argument.

Yes, the law is holy and the commandments just BUT DOES THE HOLY LAW MAKE SOMEONE HOLY? DOES THE JUST COMMANDMENTS MAKE ONE JUSTIFY?

Many read but few Understand. Right in the same chapter, same Paul said when the commandments came to him, sin revived and death by sin. We have a long way to go in the body of Christ.

jnrbayano:
You are that person with the said attitude, that attitude is comprehension of not more than 100words

Let me make it in even fewer words.

The law is there to check LAWLESSNESS put differently, the law tells you and I when we sin.

Jesus doesn't support lawlessness
No disciple of his supported same
I will not support lawlessness my friend

Learn if you want

Amen to this and we could be saying the above in a different way. I say, the law DEDINES sin or tells you what sin IS but listen I'm also saying you can ALSO sin without A LAW.

I Understand laws are put in place to check lawlessness and when such laws are broken it becomes an offense so we're on the same page with that but we're here arguing because of the other things you guys are saying or teaching on the role of law AFTER ONE COMES TO CHRIST. Your other friend still want Christians to go back to the law ( in this case as used I mean the mosaic law). Then there's no need for Christ if we're supposed to go back to keeping the mosaic law.

openmine:
okay i guess the scriptures i quoted are not part of the bible right?

Hope you also know that paul was quoted as saying that the knowledge of the law increased sin...

You cant be justified by both the law and grace!

You can also remember Paul was quoting from the law in his teachings like honor your father and mother etc and these our brother can argue that ohhhhhh yes, even Paul quote from the law to teach so therefore the law stands and should be uphold and therefore the law is not abolished.

I was going to get into why you often see Paul still quoted from the law to teach. He was balancing his audience which were JEWS, the custodians of the law and finding it too difficult to practice faith without the law so hence you see Paul say, TO THE JEWS I BECAME LIKE A JEW SO I MIGHT WIN THEM TO CHRIST. He was using what they grew up with to lead them to a BETTER PLACE IN CHRIST HENCE IS THE BOOK OF HEBREWS.

jnrbayano:
This 19/20th century hellish teaching is why the world is out of order.

St Paul said, "do we do away with the law? No, we rather establish/uphold it."

St John the evangelist said, "sin is transgression of law"

Jesus said, "if you love me, keep my commandments"

You guys here want to be lawless, goodluck

Nobody here teaching lawlessness. I obey traffic laws here in USA so how am I lawless? I obey laws at my job so how am I lawless?

1. When you quote we up hold the law n not nullify it because of faith. How do you uphold a law WHEN ITS NOT GIVEN TO YOU? 2. How does Christians uphold the Mosaic law that ends when they have Christ? If Christians are to UPHOLD the Mosaic law, the Apostles in Acts of the Apostles would have concluded just that? Again you have to understand why Paul said that.

2. When Jesus said if you love me keep my COMMANDMENTS was he talking about the 10 commandments? Why don't you read down....he was talking about the COMMANDMENTS OF LOVE right in the same chapter there not talking about 10 commandments.