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Buzugee,

Can I ask you a question?

Did Jesus (after fulfilling the law and the Prophets) gave a "NEW" Law or NOT?

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The Spirit of God shall give us interpretation,lolz

Buzugee,

See, I understand you perfectly well but sometimes, when you speak; I have to purse and think about your words. However, you are missing greatly some things that are "concealed" in this NT. It is a great wealth, otherwise it will NOT be called "BETTER" covenant, testament. However, there is a great mysteries of revelation also in the OT but what you are missing is this,

For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. Gal 3:10 kjv

Here the Apostle was quoting from Deuteronomy 27:26 and Jeremiah 11:3 because if you have to follow the law, you have to follow ALL. If you break or ommit one of the law, you break ALL. The law of Moses was never given to the church but the law of Christ, however, we should NOT because the law of Moses wasn't given to us and be lawless, practicing lawlessness. This is the Gospel my brother.

Goshen360: Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. Proverbs 14:34, Kjv

In the beginning of this year, in my prayer for the nation, Nigeria, the Spirit of God spoke expressly to me that, "BEFORE NATIONS AND KINGDOMS CHANGE, MEN MUST CHANGE". I heard God like never before. Right from the bottom to the top, a nation full of unrighteousness, even in the pulpit. Ungodly men handling Godly affairs. How do you pure new wine inside old wineskin? A nation that has churches and religious people located every 5-10 minutes walk and yet, prosti.tutions prevail, corruption wake up with the people every morning, stealing, killing, lies, etc.

While men slept, the enemy (devil) came and sow tares among the wheat and the enemy went away (Matt. 13:25). If there is any people that needs prayer, it is the same people that call on the name of God on Sundays and Friday but will still step out of the church and mosques to involve in evils, it the religious leaders who themselves stand behind corrupt political leaders, it is people from bottom to top, not top to bottom. Take a look at this,

If my people, which are called by my name, (who are the people called by his name? Christ = Christ-IANS)

shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways;

then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 2 Chro. 7:14 kjv

You see, we cannot humble ourselves to pray, seek the face of God and remain in our wicked ways and expect God to hear us. It is very unfortunate today that the most corrupt people and evil doers are the same people called by the name of God.

Again, BEFORE KINGDOMS AND NATIONS CHANGE, MEN MUST CHANGE.

My words from another thread.

Okay buddy

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Are you saying Paul's writing is NOT inspired by God through the Holy Spirit? There is also exhortation to the reference of ECCLESIASTES 12 VS 13 in the NT also. People are just having the "form" of Godliness but they deny the real thing when it comes to practicing it. Imagine someone who will go to church and outside the church setting will go and sleep with Alhaji, or people that will go and kill/rob to get money and bring tithe to church, or a prosti.tute that will do her thing in d week days and come speak in tongues as choir leaders, All of these are having the form of Godliness but the real practice is absent. So, in reference to the ECCLESIASTES 12 VS 13, why will someone do that if they keep the commandments of God?

ijawkid: Goshen oÝa go start to build ya satellite for outer space.....
I dey wit u......

I prefer tb joshua dreams to ur own sha.....

Hehehehehehehe

Now I see where the problem lies. You don't even understand me from the beginning. Anyway, what am saying is that, I had a dream like, I saw people instead of mounting the kind of dishes we have now maybe to get cable tv, etc against the wall on people's home. I saw that instead of those dishes, it was like a technology that will just hide inside or under the roof and wire connect. I don't see the physical dish that is being mounted today against the wall. To me, it's like an invisible (not seen in the open) type that will later invade the technology section. You don't have to believe it anyway. I don't see any sense in it also but I only tell you what I see in a dream and that is how I interpret it. I may be wrong but that's what I see my brother.

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Daniel 12:4 kjv

ijawkid: @buzugee.....

Why na LovePeddler u dey dream about??

U visit ashawo recently?
Lmao

Well, sometimes....I no trust my brother buzugee, This one na heavy upper cut from Ijawkid to buzugee. I know buzugee will sure avenge some day,lolz

buzugee: excellent words. let me add that the church teaches people that the laws are done away with. hence why people feel they can do whatever they like, fornication, adultery, stealing, killing. so long as they come and pray for forgiveness on sundays.

Yes, the law (of Moses) was done away with but more importantly, Grace is NOT a license for sin with the mind that after all God will forgive me. This is the heresy that is being preached today to those who will NOT study the word of God for themselves. The problem is more to that than just saying because the law is done away with. Okay, if the law (of Moses) is done away with, how about the law of the land we live? Christians are to obey that. However, their is an in built eternal moral law that works with our conscience not to do evil. Christians ARE NEVER under the law in the first place but ONLY the Jews/Israelites.

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves. Romans 2: 14 kjv

Goshen360: Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. Proverbs 14:34, Kjv

In the beginning of this year, in my prayer for the nation, Nigeria, the Spirit of God spoke expressly to me that, "BEFORE NATIONS AND KINGDOMS CHANGE, MEN MUST CHANGE". I heard God like never before. Right from the bottom to the top, a nation full of unrighteousness, even in the pulpit. Ungodly men handling Godly affairs. How do you pure new wine inside old wineskin? A nation that has churches and religious people located every 5-10 minutes walk and yet, prosti.tutions prevail, corruption wake up with the people every morning, stealing, killing, lies, etc.

While men slept, the enemy (devil) came and sow tares among the wheat and the enemy went away (Matt. 13:25). If there is any people that needs prayer, it is the same people that call on the name of God on Sundays and Friday but will still step out of the church and mosques to involve in evils, it the religious leaders who themselves stand behind corrupt political leaders, it is people from bottom to top, not top to bottom. Take a look at this,

If my people, which are called by my name, (who are the people called by his name? Christ = Christ-IANS)

shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways;

then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 2 Chro. 7:14 kjv

You see, we cannot humble yourself to pray, seek the face of God and remain in our wicked ways and expect God to hear us. It is very unfortunate today that the most corrupt people and evil doers are the same people called by the name of God.

Again, BEFORE KINGDOMS AND NATIONS CHANGE, MEN MUST CHANGE.

My words from another thread.

buzugee: No Sir, this was my dream

Okay, what I know is any inscription of "LovePeddler" is not a good sign. Check your life first before looking else where. If not, ask the Lord for interpretation or stay still, the Lord will speak further in cases where you are confused.

ijawkid: Ur still making me laugh......

Ya dream about a new satellite technology has nothing absolutely to do with God ......

That is my point.....

Every intelligent science oriented person will always dream d same dreams u dreamnt.......

That's alll...

There's notin special about it....

Mind u I'm just also trying to compare d dreams servants of God had in d past and d role those dreams played with modern day persons who claim God showed them things in there dreams,just like ur case....

Well, it may not have meaning to you. So if God is showing you a dream, it "MUST" benefit "ALL" and if not, it should be thrown in the trash, is that what you are saying? If I tell you this dream and you don't believe me, how will you believe if I tell you the one that will benefit "ALL". The time that God showed dreams when God was still putting the bible together is different from the time of "NOW". So the dream of the Men of old you are referring to differs to our own days. So if God show you a dream something is going to happen (maybe in your family or people around you that you know), you will be looking for how does it benefit "ALL". My brother, am not going into much argument with you on this subject. Whenever, God reveals something to you about something, you can sit down and don't do anything about simply because it does not benefit all. Enjoy your day bro.

buzugee: Goshen and Ijawkid i need help with a dream i had 2 days ago. there was a beast with 7 heads and 10 horns and 7 crowns on the 7 heads. the beast was carrying this sophisticated rich looking lady who had on purple garments. she had lots of jewellery. all kinds too. gold, silver and platinum. on her forehead was written 'LovePeddler'. then i woke up abruptly. guys help me out here. preciate yall

You have been meditating on the book of Revelation.....

Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. Proverbs 14:34, Kjv

In the beginning of this year, in my prayer for the nation, Nigeria, the Spirit of God spoke expressly to me that, "BEFORE NATIONS AND KINGDOMS CHANGE, MEN MUST CHANGE". I heard God like never before. Right from the bottom to the top, a nation full of unrighteousness, even in the pulpit. Ungodly men handling Godly affairs. How do you pure new wine inside old wineskin? A nation that has churches and religious people located every 5-10 minutes walk and yet, prosti.tutions prevail, corruption wake up with the people every morning, stealing, killing, lies, etc.

While men slept, the enemy (devil) came and sow tares among the wheat and the enemy went away (Matt. 13:25). If there is any people that needs prayer, it is the same people that call on the name of God on Sundays and Friday but will still step out of the church and mosques to involve in evils, it the religious leaders who themselves stand behind corrupt political leaders, it is people from bottom to top, not top to bottom. Take a look at this,

If my people, which are called by my name, (who are the people called by his name? Christ = Christ-IANS)

shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways;

then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 2 Chro. 7:14 kjv

You see, we cannot humble yourself to pray, seek the face of God and remain in our wicked ways and expect God to hear us. It is very unfortunate today that the most corrupt people and evil doers are the same people called by the name of God. BEFORE KINGDOMS AND NATIONS CHANGE, MEN MUST CHANGE.

@ Ijawkid,

There are things you may not know about dreams....I "guess", I don't mean insult. Weather, as "thought" , "imagination" or "dreams" or "vision"....they all happen exist in the spiritual before it is birth to the visible. Many times, I see the way you turn down some spiritual issues here on this board but however, I guess it is based on your KNOW/edge. Knowledge is what gives you edge over others.

Everything exist in the spiritual before it is given birth to in the natural. I am not a scientist but I just told you what I saw and there are many thing God show me in a dream but I can't say it in the open. If they need praying, I will pray about it. If not, I will go about my normal business. Sometimes, dreams don't make any meaning to us but when they happen as it is given in our dream then we make sense out of it. Don't despise the gift simply because you don't have it.

LYNDDY: @goshen 360
am sorry it's private,not somtin i can share here,though i ve pple dat help me interprete,but they stil dont understand everything.they wld tel me not all dreams hv meaning.i dont think i agree with them,so that's y am looking a book to help me out.

Well, you can get the book God2man mentioned and I dont know if you can get this book also from Perry Stone: How to Interpret Dreams and Vision. Okay.

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I don't agree with you. When God gives a dream....they are for a purpose. It's clear all over the scriptures. Either for your own purpose or for many others around you. Recently, God gave me a dream on the next level of technology in the area of satellite dishes and there is another dream God gave me but I didn't understand it, I have to seek counsel from the Holy Spirit for understanding. Dreams have there places my brother. Before I came to the US, God showed me and I have an assignment here in due season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jftt4FZFEH8?version=3&hl=en

@ OP,

Kindly share the dream you seek help for and by the Spirit of God, we shall solve the mystery. Am also gifted in dreams and vision, like you said, some we understand and some we don't. One of the ministry of the Holy Spirit. If you don't mind sharing the dream or do you exclusively need books recommendation only?

The bible is not understood because men do not study it. Many are biblically illiterate till this day of knowledge. To study with understanding is to rightly divide the word of truth. The only thing that sells in the body of Christ is MoGs capitalizing on the ignorance of the people, this is what sells. The word of God declares, if the Spirit that raise Jesus dwells in your mortal body, the Spirit that raised up Jesus shall QUICKEN your mortal body. It amazes me when Christians say they have the Holy Spirit but still cannot see beyond their nose neither does their mind/brain function well. You can't have the Holy Ghost and be DULL, It's not possible because it says the Holy Ghost will QUICKEN your mortal body.

Now to the main thread,

For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that you through [size=15pt]his poverty[/size] might be rich. 2 Cor. 8:9 Kjv

This scriptures clearly states that Jesus was rich BUT for our sake he became poor. I put it this way, let's say I have $10m and for the sake of God's people, I give all the $10m to them, do I still have anything or can I still say am rich? Certainly not because I have sacrificed my riches for God's people so I can make God's people rich and I myself now poor.

If Jesus was rich, why would he also tell the rich young man to go sell his possession and follow him? If Jesus was rich, why would he teach not to lay up treasures for ourselves on earth? If Jesus was rich, why don't he take from the riches to pay taxes but told Peter to go get money from the mouth of the fish? If Jesus was rich, then we Christians should be poor according to 2 Cor 8:9 because if Jesus was rich, then that scripture will read thus:

For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was [size=15pt]poor[/size], yet for your sakes he became rich, that you through his riches might be poor.

BUT BECAUSE HE WAS RICH AND BECAME POOR (FOR OUR SAKE), THAT IS WHY WE ARE RICH. Hence the scripture is right to saying he became poor so that me, through is poverty might be rich, reading thus:

For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that you through his poverty(not through his riches because he already gave up his riches for our sake) might be rich.

And this teachings of Jesus was rich because he had an accountant or a treasurer is false teachings. Jesus ministered and people gave him gifts. The purpose of treasurer is simply to keep account of the gifts that was given to them so that Jesus will be fully concentrated on the ministry.

https://www.nairaland.com/943370/where-did-cain-got-wife

This thread answers your kweshion.

Yes, I know the answer but I dont "feel" like telling you Maybe another person might tell you but I wont

Logic Mind: Are you admitting that, like me, you don't know which light genesis 1:3 was refering to?

And who says am as confused as you are? Am saying, after mocking and don't believe our bible, our God and our faith, you are now seeking answers from us......Go find out for yourself yo'. It's there, read, read and read until it the answer hit you,okay.

So you can now come to us for help in order to answer your question about our God you don't believe in huh? Go search the scriptures by yourself and find out or maybe perhaps, your question is to mock our God still.

Logic Mind: Genesis chapter 1, verse 3-5
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning —the first day.

Which light is this exactly? And how does it differ from the other lights he created on the fourth day in verses 14-19?

14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning —the fourth day.

Buzugee,

What is wrong with you these days? I think you should relax and stop all this heresy. Seriously....This is the 2nd time am telling you this. Am telling you because No scriptures is of private interpretation.

If Jesus made the statement from the verse you quoted in your OP,

buzugee: in the jewish day there are 12 hours, so technically Jesus resurrected in 1 day and a half ( 36 hours ). 36 hours is 3 jewish day

john 11 vs 9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

And same Jesus also SAID in this verse,

[quote author=Mr_Anony]For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be[b] three days and three nights[/b] in the heart of the earth. Mathew 12:40[/quote]You are here quoting HALF statement of Jesus Christ. According to your verse in John 11:9, Jesus TALKED about DAY, Day means day light. Only day (light) does not make a DAY being referred to by Jesus. Same Jesus said in Matthew 12:40 he would be Three DAYS and Three NIGHTS. Are we to say Jesus was lying in one of the two verse as he would not be contradicting himself.

Buzugee, you need to "rightly divide" God's word. There are absolutely 12 hours in a day and 12 hours in a night. This makes 24 hours full days because day alone dont make a full one day likewise, night alone don't make a whole full one day. Stop this in-balanced teachings you started recently, okay. My piece of advice for you. Thank you and God bless you.