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@ Pastor Kun,

You are right and nothing can be truthful more than what you have said. I have told "East" that I will respond to him in ALL the things he came to teach AFTER his studies and got revelation. Many things he needs to answer from the revelation he now has.

@ East,

Like I said in the other thread, I will answer you according. There are many questions you also need to answer us from your revelation teachings. Okay. We will resume tomorrow. Thank you.

@ East,

I will answer ALL your comments and post accordingly. What you said here and other threads. Maybe tomorrow. Okay.

@ Buzugee and Ijawkid,

You guys are mixing up stuffs here. Am not against Lucifer or the meaning of the name. Now Lucifer means light bearer. if you are saying Lucifer means morning star with same as Jesus being morning star in revelation.........HOW DO WE TRANSLATE THIS TO JESUS BEING THE FUTURE LUCIFER? THIS IS MY BASIS OF CONTENTION. There are 2 people named Judas in the Apostles of Jesus BUT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME, they differ in personality and character. This kind of statement can mislead and distort the context.

buzugee: what chart ?

I attached a chart of the genealogy of Christ in my 2nd comment on this thread, look below my 2nd comment.

buzugee: what chart ? there is no such thing as virgin birth. it is a greco-roman concoction. its common sense really. [size=15pt]it is impossible.[/size] and secondly it is a pagan doctrine from the ancient babylonian empire which got used by the greco-roman empire. it is a story of semiramis and tammuz. semiramis came up with the immaculate conception birth.

You mean the God you know that can make somebody like Sarah who had past the child birth age to still conceive cannot make a virgin conceive? You mean the scripture in Isaiah 7:14 is lying? You mean God lied about the SEED of the woman in the Garden of Eden? You need to check yourself, seriously. Prove ALL things before you come openly to blaspheme please.

God2man: Yes. What i am thinking is irrelevant, what God said is the most important thing. Pay your tithe [size=15pt]or else you will pay it to pharaoh.[/size] God bless you. God2man.

Do you have biblical prove to the above statement? That if one doesn't "pay" tithe, one pays it to Pharaoh? And besides, there is nothing like "pay" tithe, it WAS give, gave or bring.

buzugee: ROMANS 1 VS 3[b] Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;[/b] according to the flesh means ' by birth'. Joseph was of the lineage of King David by the flesh ( by birth ) and Jesus was the seed of King David by the flesh ( by birth ), hence Joseph slept with mary to produce the messiah because mary was not of King David by the flesh ( by birth )

This is the MOST heretic statement from you. You need to be careful what you say in the open out of ignorance. So you DENY the Virgin birth of Christ?

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14 kjv

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It is NOT God, some improper translation are due to not getting accurate word from the Greek and Hebrew into English. Its from men. What am saying is for us to be careful because a word missing or not giving the right concept can mean different thing entirely. I strongly advice that we stick to Kjv while we compare or read other translations for better clarification and understanding. Even the Kjv, there are counterfeit because of greedy/ungodly men and piracy/imitation. A lot is going on out there, just for us to be careful is my message. I read other version and quote from them where necessary but stick to the kjv and Nkjv

I have told you your problem but if you want me to prove it, i will but not today. Am out of my residence to give to definition of same word with different meaning. Okay. Go get a concordance with dictionary and check it out. Stop all this heresy. The fact that they bear same name doesn't mean Jesus is the future Lucifer according to the title of your thread.

Study the attached chart by yourself with bible reference and see what you make out of it.

Buzugee,

Kindly go get an exhaustive concordance and get up the meaning of words to get the clearer meaning. Stop all these heresies.

@ Buzugee,

Seriously, you need to stop all these teachings.....Prove ALL things before you come out with heresy pls. Mary is from the linage of David and I can prove that to you, It's in the bible.

In verse 30, the woman would have spoken with Gehazi and him also would have talked with her.

@ OP,

I think one of the people who comment, ApostlePat had given you the best answers and you can't challenge it. Stop spreading heresy please.

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You seems to have issues with trinity and i suggest you dont have to FIGHT the word of God because you dont understand trinity.....God can be One billion if he chooses to, God is NOT man my brother.

There are also Genuine and counterfeit KJV.Please beware because one alteration leads to different meaning and interpretation, check out this website: http://www.biblebelievers.com/believers-org/counterfeit-kjv.html

In addition, you can print the whole 102 difference to check for the Original KJV and the Counterfeits here, also compare the translation you have: http://www.kingjamesvideoministries.com/Counterfeit%20KJV%20Bibles%202.pdf

Why do I do this? My answer is,

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Jude 1:4 Kjv

But you, Beloved in the Lord,

Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Jude 1:3 kjv

Our faith is worth preserving. Contend for the faith to preserve the truth that was once delivered to us, unto the saints. God bless you all.

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Gehazi broke the instruction in verse 30.

@ OP,

Are you teaching or asking question in order to get an answer or you need "help" for understand?

Loskee: One man from Illinois worked on this while fishing from his john boat.

1. John

Loskee: Roy Clark studied it while playing his ban[b]jo. El[/b]aine Victs mentioned it in her column once.

2. Joel

Loskee: One woman judges the job to be so involving, s[b]he brews[/b] a cup of tea to help calm her nerves.

3. Judges

4. Job

5. Hebrews

Loskee: There will be some names that are really easy to spot … that’s a f[b]act.S[/b]ome people will soon find themselves in a jam,es[/b]pecially since the book names are not necessarily capitalized.

6. Acts

7. James

Loskee: The t[b]ruth is, f[b]rom ans[/b]wers we get, we are forced to admi[b]t it us[/b]ually takes a minister or scholar to see some of the[b]m at the w[/b]orst.

8. Ruth

9. Romans

10. Titus

11. Matthew

Loskee: Something in our genes is responsible for the difficulty we have.

12. Genesis

Loskee: T[b]hose a[/b]ble to find all of them will hear great lamentations from those who have to be shown. One revelation may help, books like Timothy and Samuel may occur without their numbers.

13. Hosea

14. Lamentation

15. Revelation

16. Timothy

17. Samuel

18. Numbers

Loskee: And punctuation or spaces in the middle are nor[b]mal. A chi[/b]pper attitude will help you com[b]pete.R[/b]emember, there are 22 books of the Bible lur[b]king s[/b]omewhere in this paragraph.

19. Malachi

20. Peter

21. Kings

Loskee: she brews a cup of tea to help calm her nerv[b]es.Ther[/b]e will be some names that are really easy to spot … that’s a fact.

22. Esther

Glory to God......Mystery Solved.....Where is my tithe and offerings?

Loskee: guy, you try! no see expansion na!!!

How do you mean...by the above embolden? Abi no be so? The paragraph mentioned John and there are 4 Johns in the bible that makes four different books. The paragraph also mentioned Timothy....there is 1 and 2 Timothy. It also mentioned Samuel...There is 1 and 2 Samuel that makes 2 different books. No be so?

@ Seun,

One feature I had been thinking you can also add is to "specify a particular font face" I like AND LOCK IT so that I don't have to change (format) my font face every time I make a post or comment. I think this will be nice and ease the burden of formatting a text/font all the time.

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lolz. I think you should consider writing a book on tithe subject. Start to put your tithe teachings together in writing, maybe one day you will put it in a hard copy for all to read. What do you think?

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And neither did Jesus commanded tithe in Hebrews....

John

1. Gospel of John

2. Epistle of I John

3. Epistle of 2 John

4. Epistle of 3 John

5. Judges

6. Job

7. Lamentations

8. Revelation

Timothy

9. Epistle of 1 Timothy

10. Epistle of 2 Timothy

Samuel

11. 1 Samuel

12. 2 Samuel

13. Numbers

14. "Something in our GENES IS responsible for the difficulty we have" (GENESIS)

15. Roy Clark studied it while playing his ban[b]JO.EL[/b]aine Victs mentioned... (JOEL)

16. "One woman judges the job to be so involving, s[b]HE BREWS[/b] a cup of tea to help calm her nerves". (HEBREWS)

17. "There will be some names that are really easy to spot … that’s a f[b]ACT.S[/b]ome people will soon find themselves in a jam" (ACTS...OF THE APOSTLES)

18. "Some people will soon find themselves in a JAM,ES[/b]pecially...." (JAMES)

19. "The t[b]RUTH is, from answers we get..." (RUTH)

20. "The truth is, f[b]ROM ANS[/b]wers we get..." (ROMANS)

21. "we are forced to admi[b]T IT US[/b]ually takes a minister" (TITUS)

22. "or scholar to see some of the[b]M AT THE W[/b]orst" (MATTHEW)

Mystery Solved. Glory to God!

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lolz. Almost 2 months and still waiting.

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Yes you are right with your question BUT bear in mind that your above question is the "thought and question" of a man (in this case, Abraham) and his question is meant or portray the very natural and sensual thought of man. Miracle is what cut across and violate the natural law and this is the case of God making a woman give birth after a natural normal child bearing age.

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Debosky,

YOU HAVE SPOKEN THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE GOSPEL TRUTH.

debosky: You know the point - it was single occurrence in the bible. You were the one who asserted that Abram was only 'recorded-once' as giving tithes, but you 'think' he could have given many times. The same 'thinking' that said Jacob was thinking about 'supporting priests' when he promised to give tithe to God.

As for me, I don't owe anything, so I have no need to 'pay' - Jesus paid it all.

Freedom from having to conform to a human imposed percentage - if I give more than 10% I am unperturbed, likewise if I give less. I am not playing the numbers game. No curses will come upon me for either case, neither will I be denied blessings, because Ephesians 1:3 says Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ.

We have examples clearly laid out to us in the NT Church with no emphasis on tithing, simply on giving in response to the need/as inspired by God/decided in our hearts, with the acknowledgement that all comes from God in the first instance. That is not to say an individual, or indeed congregation (if they agree) cannot decide to apply the 10% example - or any other for that matter - but it should be taught in that light.

In my experience, it is not always taught in that light - what is often taught is compulsory tithing, backed up with threats of a curse.

@ Buzugee,

Yes you are right boss. God created billions of people and put them "ALL" inside Adam and Eve. This is the "seed" I was trying to explain to these guys OR do you have a better understanding and explanation?

buzugee: you are assuming that God created only 2 people. therein lies the folly of this question. God created a nation of people ( thousands maybe even millions ). its all in the bible.

Here comes the boss,lolz

2good: This answer is completely out of point. You did not explain anything here. Within thesame race, you have finger print variation. His question is what is the race of Adam and in extension how did other race come to be?

My answer simple exclude race. It's the same thing. If Adam was white, how did black came out of him. If he was black, how did white came out of him. My answer shows the same thing bro. It's the seed and aspect of God in us, producing according to his will and purpose on earth. We are all from Adam and Eve.

I just can't understand "ALL" these religious people with their inconsistent tithe teachings. Seriously, we should begin to ask ourselves, where in the bible did people have cards recording tithe? Where? Where did any of the Apostles receive "fixed" salaries? Where? Where does the tithe of Abram correspond with the Levitical tithe? How? Some even teach tithe in their denomination as a per-requisite for ordination or assisting people/the poor. Where do we see this example in the word of God as our faith. When these tithe teachers are tested by the word of God, they run to justify with Abram tithe while they claim we are not under the law of Moses and yet, they mix or they cannot teach tithe without mixing both Abram and Levitical tithe together. You ask these tithe teachers how did Abraham used his tithe giving to take care of Melchizedek, we can get answer and yet it is a must to take care of Levites and Priest. Did Abraham gave tithe to Levites and Priest?

Seriously, this tithe man-made teaching is Non-Jesus and Non-Apostolic teachings. Not anywhere in the bible did Jesus or the Apostles ever taught tithe, not a single text recorded. This is the words of Jude that some greedy men have invaded the our churches and taught a subtle man-made teachings. Our faith is being invaded by greedy men and is facing great invasion. WE NEED TO CONTEND FOR THE FAITH (PRESERVE THE FAITH AND TRUTH) THAT WAS DELIVERED TO THE SAINTS.

LilMizzGood: ok can u plz answer the 2nd question... which is what race coloured is Adam and Eve and if there was coloured wouln't all we people be one coloured as we are the children of them

My explanation to this is still the seed of God in us. I have also asked how did "dwarf" also came into existence? Probably Adam wasn't created as dwarf. It is a seed God put in man that can produce according to plan and purpose of God. I also asked same question such as how did the whole specie of animals fit into the ark of Noah? The Holy Spirit gave me an answer that, Not all the species we have today existed then in the creation. The species of today just like human beings originated from the existing one that were created to have multiple species of today. It's an aspect or a part of God's greatness deposited in man. Remember, when God breathe into man, many thing took place inside of man for him to "become" a living soul. Also, when Paul said "study", he knows what he was saying. He wasn't telling us to "read". This is because, I have come to understand that the Hebrew and Greek, just like English and Yoruba, there are some words we really cannot get the real expression of Yoruba/English and so also are some words we cant really express in English from the Hebrew/Greek meaning. This is why we must use along "study" to get the real meaning of English words as they are translated from Hebrew or Greek. God is indeed Great!

LilMizzGood: ok if u quoting Lev 18:6 you might as well tell me that God accepted Cain and his sisters marriage. In the time of Moses didn't they know they are all borthers and sisters as they came from Adam and Eve.

Every one of us is from Adam but there is the seed of God in us that makes us different individual from the other. That is why no one has same finger print of all the billions of people on earth yet from same one man. This is the greatness of God in us and through us.